[CALL TO ORDER]
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I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN ON MARCH
[a. Quarterly RDA Update]
25TH, 2025, AND WE WILL MOVE TO OUR BUSINESS ITEMS. AND WE HAVE DAVID DOBBINS TO GIVE US A QUARTERLY RDA UPDATE. WELL, GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. FIRST OF ALL, I'M ALWAYS AMAZED AT HOW MANY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU GUYS DEAL WITH. AND I'M HERE TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT LIST TONIGHT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO, IS GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE ARE STARTING TO GET A LOT OF ATTENTION ON. WE REFER TO THIS AREA TYPICALLY AS THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. THE RDA PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED WHAT THEY CALL THE PIONEER DISTRICT, AND THAT'S ROUGHLY THE MAP THAT YOU SEE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS AREA, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. MAY HAVE THESE YOU HAVE DEALT WITH AND ARE CONTINUING TO DEAL WITH. THEY HAVE MADE AN APPLICATION TO REZONE MOST OF THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT THAT APPLICATION WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ATTENTION IN PARTS OF THIS AREA ON DATA CENTERS. SO YOU SAW THE ARTICLE ABOUT NOVA GETTING A $2 BILLION LOAN, AND WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH DIFFERENT CURRENT EXISTING DATA CENTERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT EXPANDING WITHIN THIS AREA. AND THEN SOME OF THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WANT TO DESIGNATE AS DATA CENTER CAMPUSES FOR WHAT I'M CALLING IT. WHAT? AGAIN, THE RDA APPROVED A BUDGET AND A PLAN FOR THIS AREA. UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEVER WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES TO AGREE TO THAT. SO WE ARE NOT ABLE TO COLLECT ANY INCREMENT FOR THIS. WE WOULD HAVE TO START ALMOST START THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER, AND WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW WITH SALT LAKE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. AND AS WE TALKED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THE COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU OFTEN WONDER, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE? PART OF THE REASON IS AS WE DEVELOP THIS AREA, WE WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS. AND IF YOU LOOK BACK ON THIS, YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LARGE AREA, 1300 ACRES. WE WANT IT TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.WE WANT IT TO PROVIDE JOBS. WE WANT IT TO PROVIDE ABOVE AVERAGE TAX CREATION. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THIS AREA NEEDS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE FOOTHILLS. IT NEEDS A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, IT NEEDS ROADS. THERE'S A LOT OF SITE WORK AND GRADING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. WE NEED TO INCREASE WATER CAPACITY, AND POWER HAS BECOME THE LEADING ISSUE FOR DATA CENTERS. IT USED TO BE POWER ARTSY. THEY USED TO BE WATER, AND NOW IT'S POWER. IN FACT, WE JUST HAD A MEETING TODAY WITH ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER. AND WE ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AFTER THE MEETING IS THE NEED TO GET TOGETHER WITH THEM. WHAT SOME OF THESE DATA CENTERS ARE DOING NOW IS PROVIDING, LOOKING AT, PROVIDING ON SITE GENERATION FOR THEIR OWN POWER ON THEIR SITE. AND IT CREATES SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES FOR US AS A MUNICIPALITY. BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON THIS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, I TOOK TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN OUR CITY. IF YOU TAKE A VERY LARGE WAREHOUSE THAT I WON'T NAME 1,000,000FT■!S, WE HAVE SO MANY OF THEM. YES, 76 ACRES. IT HAS A TAXABLE VALUE OF $135 MILLION. THAT PER SQUARE FOOT IS $126. IT GENERATES OVER $600,000 A YEAR FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, 200,000 TO THE COUNTY AND 200 AND, EXCUSE ME, $230,000 TO THE CITY. THAT FOOTPRINT HAS A VERY LARGE PARKING AREA. IT HAS TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG. IT ADDS VEHICLE TRIPS. IT HAS EMPLOYEES. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO LOOK AT IS DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WE LOVE TO SEE JOB CREATION THAT HAS HIGH WAGES. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT PROVIDES THE BEST RETURN TO THE CITY, I COMPARED IT TO AN EXISTING AN EXISTING DATA CENTER. THE SIZE OF THAT DATA CENTER IS 380,000FT■!S, ABOUT A THIRD THE SIZE. IT'S ONLY ON 46 ACRES. IT HAS A HIGHER TAXABLE VALUE AND CREATES ALMOST AN IDENTICAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE
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TO US. AND SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND THAT FOOTPRINT IS SO SMALL BECAUSE THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES, THEY DON'T GENERATE TRAFFIC. THE DEMAND ON NOT ONLY OUR CITY SERVICES, POLICE AND FIRE ROADS IS IT'S EXTREMELY LOW. IF YOU'RE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY DEMAND FOR CHILDREN TO BE EDUCATED. THEY'RE NOT CREATING JOBS. SO PEOPLE AREN'T MOVING HERE FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A STRICTLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND VALUE TO THE CITY, I MEAN, FOUR DATA CENTERS COULD CREATE $1 MILLION A YEAR IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY. NOW, THIS IS JUST THE REAL PROPERTY TAX. THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THIS IS JUST REAL PROPERTY TAX, NOT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY WITH THE WITH THE EQUIPMENT INSIDE THAT GETS TAXED THAT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY. OKAY. YOU ADD IN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY AND YOU COULD DOUBLE THESE NUMBERS. AND IF WE DO IT RIGHT THROUGH AGREEMENTS WE CAN CAPTURE THAT. SOMETIMES WE DON'T CAPTURE ALL OF IT. IF IT JUST GOES INTO THE OVERALL TAXABLE VALUE OF THE CITY AND YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY VALUE GOES UP, THE RATE GOES DOWN TO MATCH THAT.BUT IF WE CAN DO IT RIGHT AND CAPTURE THAT, WE COULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THAT NUMBER. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO LOOK AT CERTAIN AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE DATA CENTERS AND THEN TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE, WHETHER THAT'S TO JUST GET THE ROAD WORK DONE, TO GET TO THE AREA. BUT THIS HAS AS MUCH OF A RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS ALMOST ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WE COULD DO IN THE CITY. SO I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. AS WE START, WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH BOTH THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY AGAIN. AGAIN, PART OF IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A VALUE TO THEM. YOU KNOW, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS $600,000 A YEAR AND WE HAVE A FEW AREAS ON THAT MAP WHERE THE DEVELOPERS HAVE SAID, HEY, IF WE CAN GET THE REZONING DONE QUICKLY, WE COULD WE HAVE WE HAVE DATA CENTERS THAT WANT TO COME RIGHT AWAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS PURSUING THAT, LOOKING AT THAT, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND DISTRICT, YOU'LL BE GETTING THE REZONE APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE ON THAT PROPERTY AS IT GOES THROUGH. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED. THE NEXT STEPS AGAIN ARE WE'LL HAVE TO UPDATE THAT PROJECT AREA PLAN AND BUDGET OR COORDINATE WITH THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES. WE'LL LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT TIF OPTIONS. WE MAY HAVE SOME OF THESE ENTITIES THAT SAY WE DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE, AND WE MAY LOOK AT ANOTHER OPTION, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THE INLAND PORT OR SOMETHING THAT MAY MAY PROVIDE US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE THAT TAX INCREMENT. WE ALSO TALKED TO THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO DO A TOUR OF THIS AREA. AS YOU START TO GET THESE APPLICATIONS IN, PROBABLY ABOUT THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE'LL SET UP A TOUR, AND ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IS WELCOME TO JOIN US, AND WE CAN SHOW YOU SOME OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND THEN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. JUST TWO REAL QUICK THINGS. ONE, I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS WITH THIS, BUT DIDN'T. WASN'T THERE A BILL PASSED IN A SPECIAL SESSION OF LEGISLATURE? I WANT TO SAY 2016. PRETTY SURE IT'S 2016 THAT EXEMPTED DATA CENTERS FROM PERSONAL, TANGIBLE, TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. YES. AND BUT THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO STILL CAPTURE IT. YEAH, I KNOW THERE ARE OPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE. YEAH, YEAH. THERE ARE DIFFERENT IN THAT CODE. THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS FOR. EXCUSE ME.
HOW WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR POWER, HOW MUCH OF ITS RENEWABLE. THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN BENCHMARKS. SO THERE IS STILL A WAY ON SOME OF THAT. OKAY. AND I DID WANT TO ADD TO THAT WITH DATA CENTERS, ESPECIALLY AS THEY'VE GONE AWAY FROM WATER COOLING. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, POWER IS AN ISSUE. WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT THE MUNICIPAL ENERGY TAX ON ON THIS IS IMMENSE AS WELL. SO THEY GENERATE A LOT OF MUNICIPAL ENERGY TAX. YEAH. AND THEN HAVING LIVED THROUGH I MEAN PAUL LIVED THROUGH THIS TOO. BUT KIND OF ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS DEAL, THE 2016 DATA CENTER WARS THAT WE ENGAGED IN, I WAS ON THE TAXING ENTITY COMMITTEE FOR THOSE DISCUSSIONS HERE. AND I KNOW, I MEAN, I WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND PLEAD OUR CASE.
I WENT TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND PLEAD OUR CASE. AND I KNOW THAT. WHEN WE WERE TALKING INCENTIVES, THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, INCREMENT INCENTIVES AND THOSE THOSE KIND OF POST, POST PRODUCTION INCENTIVES, THEY WERE TALKING A LOT ABOUT INCENTIVE DOLLARS PER JOB CREATED AS IF
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THAT WAS THE METRIC. WHEN THE SLIDE YOU HAD ABOUT THE TAX DOLLARS PER, PER FOOT AND PER ACRE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF WAS NOT WHAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT. THEY WERE LOOKING AT, WELL, THIS DOESN'T HELP CREATE JOBS. THIS ONLY CREATES SIX JOBS AND WE'RE GIVING THEM $1 MILLION IN TAX INCENTIVE. THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD DEAL. SO I APPRECIATE THIS SLIDE AND THIS TAKE ON IT. AND I JUST KNOW I MEAN IF NOW THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED ARE NOT THE SAME INDIVIDUALS AS THEY WERE TEN YEARS AGO, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WAS ELECTED TO CONGRESS AND IS NOW RETIRED.SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A WHOLE DIFFERENT SLEW OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAKING THOSE CALLS AND, AND PARTICIPATING IN THOSE TAXING ENTITY COMMITTEE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I JUST KNOW IF WE TRY AND SELL IT AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF JOB CREATION, IT'S A LEAD BALLOON. YOU GOT TO START WITH SOMETHING THAT MATTERS. AND I FOR ALL I MEAN, I WAS A BRAND NEW FRESHMAN COUNCIL MEMBERS MY FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL AND FOR ALL MY TRYING TO PREACH THIS SLIDE TO PEOPLE, I COULDN'T GET THEM OFF OF THIS JOB CREATION NUMBER. SO.
YEAH. HAVE YOU REALLY TRIED IT? I'VE SEEN A SHIFT EVEN WITHIN THE STATE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT USED TO BE REALLY JOB CREATION. NOW IT'S ALMOST MORE QUALITY OF LIFE. I MEAN, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS CREATE SO MANY JOBS THAT ARE SCHOOLS ARE OVERWHELMED, OUR ROADS ARE OVERWHELMED, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN'T HANDLE IT. AND SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU START FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, YOU LOOK AT QUALITY OF LIFE. IF WE CAN TARGET CERTAIN AREAS THAT GENERATE SIGNIFICANT TAX REVENUE, THAT FREES UP THAT THE REST OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS TO GO TOWARDS QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YOUR EXISTING RESIDENTS, AND YOU'RE NOT ADDING TO THAT. AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'VE KIND OF FLIPPED IN A WAY, FROM THOSE OLD HIGH, HIGH JOBS. YEAH. AND I AND I HOPE THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION GOES, IS WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES. JUST ONE QUESTION. SINCE YOU BROUGHT THIS SLIDE BACK UP, THE BUILDING IS A THIRD OF THE SIZE, BUT THE LOT IS THE PARCEL IS MORE THAN IT'S TWO THIRDS THE SIZE. WHAT ARE THEY USING THE REST OF THE LOT FOR, IF NOT THE BUILDING? AND CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT. SO DATA CENTERS DO LIKE TO HAVE A BUFFER AROUND THEM. THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE VERY SECURE INSTALLATIONS. AND SO THEY DO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACE AROUND THEM THAT'S JUST THERE TO BUFFER. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THAT DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SIZE LOT THAT THEY HAVE. AND THEY INTEND TO EXPAND IN TIME, BUT THEY'RE REALLY ONLY FOCUSED ON WHATEVER DATA CENTER THAT THEY BUILT AT THAT ONE MOMENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE FUTURE EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES ON SOME OF THESE LOTS THAT ISN'T CONSIDERED WHEN YOU'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ENTIRE LAND AREA THAT THEY OWN. RIGHT. AND THEN LAST QUESTION OR THOUGHT JUST ESCAPED ME. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS NOW. OH, IT'LL COME TO ME. MAYBE, PROBABLY MAYBE NOT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER JACOB, DID IT COME TO YOU? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER GREEN, IT'S BOARD MEMBER. WE'RE NOT IN COUNCIL MEETING. I GOTTA HARASS YOU, CHAD. OH, YOU DON'T WANT ME TO CALL ON YOU? HOLD ON, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, GUYS. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GIVING YOU A HARD TIME. ALL RIGHT? COUPLE OF COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MIND FOR ME. ONE IS THAT I ACTUALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF DATA CENTERS THAT HAVE THAT OPEN SPACE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE US THAT, THAT EVERYTHING CRUNCHED IN ON EACH OTHER.
RIGHT. THEY WANT THAT BUFFER FOR SECURITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND IT MAKES THE COMMUNITY FEEL MORE OPEN. AND EVEN IF THE LAND IS NOT COMPLETELY USABLE, IT JUST IT REALLY DOES MAKE US FEEL MORE OPEN AND THAT WE DIDN'T FILL IT WITH TOWNHOMES AND OTHER THINGS THAT THAT WE THAT WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE, THE VALLEY. THE OTHER THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT OF TALKING ABOUT DATA CAMPUSES. AND WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT BEING THE THIRD LEG OF THE MILKING STOOL WITH THE INLAND PORT WITH US, AND WITH SILICON SLOPES TO THE SOUTH. AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THOSE THAT THAT DATA CAMPUS TYPE FEEL WE CAN, WE CAN REALLY PUSH THAT WE'RE AN INTEGRAL PART OF SILICON SLOPES AND THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE LEADING THE EDGE OF
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SOLID ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE STATE. AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP US. SO I LIKE THAT IDEA. I LIKE THE WE I'VE ALWAYS LIKED THE IDEA OF THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT BEING THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, WE DEVELOP, BUT WITH, WITH THE RIGHT MIX SO THAT THOSE 1200 ACRES JUST DON'T TURN ALL INTO HOUSES. IT'S 1200 ACRES THAT TURN INTO VIABLE BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN USE AND SELL WITH SILICON SLOPES AND THE INLAND PORT AUTHORITY. SO I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. SO THANK YOU. I REMEMBER MY QUESTION. SORRY. THANKS. THERE'S A THERE'S A RULE IN TECHNOLOGY AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT IS. BUT IT SAID EVERY 18 MONTHS PRICE CUTS IN HALF. AND THE SIZE IS HALF OF WHAT IT USED TO BE. ARE DATA CENTERS GETTING SMALLER. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT. MAINLY BECAUSE THE DEMAND IS SO GREAT. IT'S OFFSETTING THAT. I MEAN, SO NOW THEY PACK EVEN MORE WITHIN THAT, THAT FOOTPRINT. BUT THEY STILL NEED MORE AND MORE FOOTPRINT. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S NOT IT'S MORE I THINK YOU WOULD GO THE OTHER WAY, BUT THE DEMAND IS SO HIGH THAT THEY HONESTLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND. RIGHT. MORE AND MORE DATA. WELL MAYBE IF THEY MAYBE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO STORE IT ALL THE TIME AND THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. DOCTOR CALLING. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL ME. I'LL JUST SPEAK. IS THERE ANY CONCERN CONCENTRATING THAT TYPE OF USE IN ONE AREA? I CERTAINLY FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO BE VERY TAKE OUR TIME, MAKE SURE WE FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT. I, I THINK IF WE FIND THE RIGHT LOCATION BASED ON, YOU KNOW, TOPOGRAPHY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THIS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, THE VERY SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE OF THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, THAT IVORY PIECE IS WHERE THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, AND THEN A FEW OTHER AREAS. AND ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES TO DOING SOMETHING EARLY IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE EXISTING USES AROUND IT. AND THEN ONCE ONCE IT'S IN, PEOPLE WILL SEE IT THERE BEFORE THEY START MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT BUYING A HOUSE OR DOING THINGS LIKE THAT. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO USE UP ALL THE AREA. I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF ACREAGE IS AND THE RIGHT LOCATION, AS IT'S AS IT'S PART OF THE MIX OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THIS OVERALL AREA BEING. AND HONESTLY, A LOT OF IT WILL BE DRIVEN BY THAT POWER DEMAND. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH POWER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.BUT WE JUST WANT TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THAT KIND OF SWEET SPOT AND MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHILE IT'S STILL VIABLE. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT NEW BINGHAM HIGHWAY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL THE OLD BINGHAM HIGHWAY THERE AS WELL. ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP THAT ROAD AS IT IS KEEPING THAT LITTLE CHUNK? YOU KNOW, WITH THE IVORY THERE? SO ACTUALLY UDOT HAS I GUESS THEY'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT FOR A WHILE. THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT ROAD. AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO KEEP IT OR NOT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, BEFORE IT WAS A MAIN ROAD TO GO TO KENNECOTT, BUT NOW KENNECOTT DOESN'T USE THAT ROAD ANYMORE. SO THERE ARE COMPETENT. ACTUALLY REACHED OUT LAST WEEK TO ME JUST TO SAY WE'D LIKE TO COME TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT ROAD, WHETHER TO KEEP NEW BINGHAM OR JUST MOVE TRAFFIC BACK OVER TO OLD BINGHAM. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR. STAFF TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOOD
[CONSENT ITEMS]
THEN. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. BOARD MEMBER GREEN I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT CONSENT ITEMS. I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GREEN AND A SECOND BY BOARD CHAIR LAMB. ANY DISCUSSION TO THE MOTION? IF NOT, IF ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL[CLOSED MEETING]
RIGHT. SO FROM THERE WE WILL LOOK AT GOING INTO NUMBER FOUR CLOSED MEETING. AND DO WE KNOW DO WE PLAN TO STAY IN HERE OR ARE WE GOING INTO THE OTHER ROOM. NO. YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE WORK ROOM FOR THE CLOSED MEETING. HOWEVER WE WILL LEAVE THE RECORDING IN HERE. BUT THERE'S NO ZOOM IN THE WORK ROOM, SO IT'LL BE QUIET FOR A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, I MOVE TO APPROVE TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR IMMINENT IMMINENT LITIGATION AND POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE ISSUES. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GREEN AND A SECOND BY VICE CHAIR[00:20:05]
BOARD. CHAIR WHITLOCK. BOARD VICE. WHAT WE GOT IN WHITE LOOKS GOOD. THIS ONE WHERE WE CAN DO A REGULAR ORDER IS A ROLL CALL. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A VOTE THEN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES. SO LET'S GO TO CLOSE. DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE TO GO TO CLOSED MEETING. I JUST GOT TOLD WE DIDN'T HAVE TO. SO WHO SAID WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'LL HAVE TO.DO WE HAVE TO DO. I THINK BECAUSE THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS, I THINK WE CAN INFER WHAT WE NEED FOR THE ROLL CALL. VOTE. IN I TOOK IN THE PAPER AND SAID THAT IT MIGHT BE A FEW DAYS. I'M NOT GOING OVER TONIGHT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT SIX OF THE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS UP ON THE DAIS, AND I AM GOING TO OPEN UP THAT. I'M COMING BACK FROM THE CLOSED MEETING. WE'RE BACK IN THE OPEN MEETING, AND NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ADJOURN SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT NOW BECAUSE I MOVED. YOU CAN DECLARE, AND I AM GOING TO
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.