Apr 08, 2025 Committee of the Whole

[CALL TO ORDER]

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4:00 BY MICROSOFT STANDARD TIME. I CALL TO ORDER THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR APRIL 8TH, 2025. WE HAVE IN ATTENDANCE WITH US TODAY. COUNCILMEMBER SHELTON, COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER REED, VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR. LAMB. COUNCILMEMBER. COMES BACK.

COUNCILMEMBER JACOB WILL BE HERE SHORTLY. HE'S VERY LATE. AND COUNCILMEMBER BLUM WILL NOT BE

[a. Discussion of Proposed West Jordan Recreation Center]

AND COREY, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US OR ARE WE JUST I HAVE A COUPLE, EITHER A HANDOUT I'LL SEND OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT A LOT OF DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME EITHER. YEAH. IT'S NOTHING. I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET LOST IN WHAT I GUESS. WE'VE WELL, NO, I'LL PASS IT OUT HERE.

OKAY. THE SECOND PAGE WILL EXPLAIN IT. THE SECOND PAGE WILL EXPLAIN. KIND OF THE LAST TIME WE MET WITH THIS. LAST TIME WE MET WAS JANUARY BUDGET RETREAT. WE HAD JUST FINISHED OUR CONCEPTUAL CONCEPT. WE WERE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING AN RFP CREATED FOR SCHEMATIC DESIGN PROGRAMING MORE IN DEPTH. WE HIRED A METHOD STUDIO FOR THAT.

METHOD IS THE SAME ARCHITECTS THAT'S DONE THE ARTS BUILDING. AND THE SECOND PAGE IS THEIR TIMELINE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THE PROPOSAL. SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE INTO APRIL. IT'S KIND OF THE EXPLORATION PHASE STILL AND A LOT OF EXCITING, A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THEM.

MYSELF, TYLER CRAWFORD HERE IS OUR PARKS PROJECT MANAGER. JOE BRYANT IS OUR PURCHASING MANAGER. AND THEN AT TEAMSTER METHOD STUDIO AND THEN HOLLY YOAKUM. AND PAUL HAS JOINED.

OKAY. HOLLY YOAKUM IS PART OF OUR TEAM THAT WE'VE BEEN TRAVELING, LOOKING AT A FEW OF THE REC CENTERS THAT WE JUST WANT TO LOOK AT BIG, NICE, FANCY REC CENTERS. BUT REC CENTERS THAT WE FELT WOULD FIT THE COMPONENTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WITHOUT A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS. HOLLY IS HERE. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER REAL QUICK, BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN A CRITICAL COMPONENT IN HELPING US DO THAT. CAN SHE CAN SHE INTRODUCE HERSELF OR SHE JUST JUMP ON? WE'LL BRING HER ON LATER. BUT SHE HAS WORKED FOR SALT LAKE COUNTY. NOW SHE'S HELPING OUT WITH METHOD STUDIO AND KIND OF COORDINATING WITH THAT TAX APPLICATION AND HELPING US SPEAK WITH SALT LAKE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES. HOLLY USED TO OVERSEE THE WHOLE TAX PROCESS, AND SHE'S A GREAT ONE TO CONSULT. IT'S BEEN GREAT. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT. SOME OF THE THINGS, AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A FIELD HOUSE, AND THEN WE CHOSE TO DO AN ICE SHEET. ONE OF THE NICE THINGS WE DID GO VISIT THE DRAPER REC CENTER, WHICH HAS A FIELD HOUSE, AND I USED TO BE I USED TO BE A BIG, BIG CHAMPION OF FIELD HOUSES. THEY THEY DO A LOT, BUT THEY'VE KIND OF POINTED OUT THAT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY, PRIVATE SECTOR HAS REALLY TAKEN OFF WITH THAT BUILDING. ONE NOT FAR FROM WELLS FARGO UP THERE, INDOOR FIELD HOUSE. I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY TAKING OFF. SO THIS GUY WORKING FOR SALT LAKE COUNTY, THE MANAGER THERE, HE MANAGED A COURT FOR ICE FOR A FEW. WHEN WE ASKED HIM, HE SAID, NOT EVEN CLOSE. I PUT IN AN ICE CREAM HOUSE FROM MARCH TO NOVEMBER.

OUR FIELD HOUSE IS EMPTY. PRIVATE STUFF'S TAKEN. AND SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD TO HEAR THAT. THE COUNTY, FOR ALL HE KNEW, THE COUNTY SUPPORTED THAT. OKAY. YEAH. HOLLY, WOULD YOU MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF? SURE. HI, EVERYONE. SORRY, I'M. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO, SHE'S NOT HERE.

SHE'S TALKING. OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME. OH, IT MIGHT BE MUTED. HOLLY. OH, SHE'S NOT DOING ANY. WHAT ABOUT NOW. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW. WELCOME BACK. OKAY. ANYWAY, SO THE OTHER INTERESTING THING IS WE TOURED ICE RINKS. WE WOULD DO A LOT OF REC CENTERS THAT HAD ONE THAT HAD TWO. WE WENT TO PLACES THAT HAD KIND OF DIFFERENT SIZES, AND IT WAS A UNANIMOUS ACROSS THE BOARD. DON'T DO ONE. YOU'D HAVE TO DO TWO. ONE IS NOT ENOUGH. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE. THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED AN OLYMPIC SIZE. YOU NEED A HOCKEY SIZE, WHICH IS BIG ENOUGH FOR FIGURE SKATING SHOWS. THE ONLY TIME YOU WOULD NEED AN OLYMPIC SIZE IS IF YOU WERE TO DO SPEED SKATING TOURNAMENTS, WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM HERE, SO NOT A BIG NEED. SO IN TALKING WITH THE COUNTY ALL ACROSS THE AREA, THEY'RE SEEING A DECREASE IN THE NEED FOR COMPETITION POOLS, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL ASSOCIATED USE THE SWIMMING POOLS AND REALLY ANY COMPETITIONS GOING ON. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO DECREASE THE SIZE OF THE COMPETITION POOL FOR A SECOND ADVISORY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT

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YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. IF YOU DON'T IF DOES IT TAKES A LOT OF SPACE FOR THESE COMPETITION POOLS. BECAUSE IF EITHER OF THEM DON'T HAVE THE SIZE AND THEY GET COMPLAINTS. SO IT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE IF AND THAT'S A LOT OF SPACE IF YOU DON'T HAVE COMPETITION MEETS FROM YOUR HIGH SCHOOLS THERE OR ANY OTHER TYPE, IT'S JUST A LOT OF SPACE ON THE WATER. I'VE LOOKED INTO JUST TAKING OUT THE WALL AND EXPANDING THAT TO MAKE ROOM FOR SPECTATORS. THE REC CENTER WE HAVE, WE HAVE. YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN FIX THE ONE WE HAVE. I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A NEW ONE, LET'S AT LEAST PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE TO HAVE SOME MOVABLE BLEACHERS. YOU DON'T NEED BLEACHERS FULL TIME, BUT IT MAY COME DOWN LIKE IF EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY IS SAYING, IF WE WANT IT TO BE A COUNTY RUN REC CENTER OR WE THEIR BIG THING IS WE DON'T WANT ONE SHEET THEY'RE NOW WANTING. YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE THAT HAS ONE WANTS TWO. TWO IS THE ICE SHEETS. TWO ICE SHEETS. THAT'S WHERE YOU GET. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. THAT'D BE ABOUT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET IT TO FIT WOULD BE TO REDUCE THE SIZE. ONLY HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE OF COMPETITION LANES FOR LAPS. SO IT WOULD BE A COMPETITION. OR WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TAKE AWAY NOW FOR ALL THESE OTHER SIZES. THAT WAS COMING FROM SUGGESTION COUNTY COUNTY STAFF AND MAKE THE OUTDOOR POOL BIG ENOUGH FOR COMPETITION. PUT A BUBBLE OR SOMETHING. YEAH, YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE STATS, BUT IT'S JUST MORE. SPRUNG STRUCTURE. OKAY, HAVE A GOOD. SPRING OVER THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE DOLLARS, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE OTHER WAS THE SMITH GROUP. ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IN MONEY FOR ICE SHEETS? SO THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THAT I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS FINALLY, AND MADE SOME PROGRESS.

I SAW THE SAME TWEET. I LOVE WATCHING HOCKEY. AND SO I SAW IT AND I RESPONDED AND SAID, HEY, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR MONTHS. AND RYAN SMITH ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO ME AND SAID, HEY, SEND ME YOUR EMAIL. SO I DID. I SENT THEM MY EMAIL AND CONTACT AND WE'RE TRYING. ADAM GARDNER'S REALLY TRYING. I THINK IF WE IF WE'RE THIS CLOSE. YEAH. SORRY. IT'S ALWAYS SITTING OVER THERE SOMEWHERE. SOUNDS LIKE A QUIET SABBATH THAT'S HAPPENING. SO WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD. WE'RE HOPING I THINK I THINK WE'D BE FURTHER ALONG THAN MOST CITIES. SO I MEAN, IT'S $500,000 FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE A $10 MILLION PLUS. POOL. SO, I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS NOTHING, BUT YEAH, IT'S A LOT WE WANT TO HOLD THEM TO. HE SAID HALF MILLION PER RINK. RIGHT. SO WE DO TWO.

WE WANT A MILLION, NOT A HALF MILLION. ALL WE CAN SPEAK. BUT I HAVE TO TURN OFF THE MIC. SO I HAVE TO KIND OF DO IT ONE WAY, BUT I CAN GET HER TO SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO. SURE. YEAH.

I MEAN, SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO LISTEN FIRST. YOU HAVE TO TAKE OVER. YEAH. SO HANG ON AND MAKE THE NOISE. HEY, HOLLY. GO AHEAD. WELL, FIRST OFF, I'M SORRY I CAN'T BE THERE. I'M IN ANOTHER CITY TODAY DOING A PRESENTATION TO THEIR COUNCIL TONIGHT, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION. MY NAME IS HOLLY YOCUM AND I WORK AS A PARTNER AT THE PATHWAY GROUP. AND PRIOR TO THAT, FOR EIGHT YEARS I SERVED AS THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DIRECTOR FOR SALT LAKE COUNTY.

SO I HAD THE PLEASURE TO OVERSEE PARKS AND RECREATION, ARTS AND CULTURE. A LOT OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, GOLF COURSES AT SOME POINT VISIT SALT LAKE. SO A LOT OF THE AMENITIES THAT TOUCH, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY. SO THINGS THAT TOUCH, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONSTITUENTS LIVES EVERY DAY. SO I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS. COREY. MAYBE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO TOUCH ON AS I

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THERE'S A BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER TO IT. SO EVEN BETTER, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTY THERE. SO JUST WITH THAT BEING SO CLOSE, I IF I'M A COPPER HILLS SWIM TEAM, I'D RATHER HAVE MY POOL RIGHT THERE THAN SOUTH JORDAN. AND NOT ALL CHILDREN HAVE ACCESS TO A VEHICLE OR SOMEONE TO DRIVE THEM. SO IF IT ISN'T WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, THEY CAN'T PARTICIPATE. SO CAN I CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN WHAT WE GOT A FEW MONTHS OUT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WELL, UNDERSTANDING IS ONE THE COUNTY WILL ONLY DO COMPETITION POOLS IF SOMEONE ELSE IS PAYING THE EXTRA ADD ON FOR THE COMPETITION. THE COUNTY STANDARD FOR A REC CENTER IS A BASIC LEISURE POOL AND THAT'S IT. IF THE COMPETITION POOL FOR SWIM MEETS IS AN ADD ON, AS HOLLY MENTIONED, IT'S AN ADD ALTERNATE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CITY COMES UP WITH THE FUNDING FOR THAT AT ALL. ALSO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN WE APPROACHED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN A REC CENTER HERE FOR AN ADD ALTERNATE FOR A COMPETITION POOL, THEY SAID NO, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WITH SOUTH JORDAN. WE HAVE OTHER POOLS FOR OUR JORDAN SCHOOL DISTRICT KIDS TO GO TO. SO WE, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN PROGRAMING SPACE FOR AND HAD ALTERNATE COMPETITION POOL. BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ASSUMING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR THE ADULTS IN THE COMPETITION POOL. BASED ON OUR PRIOR THEIR CONTRACTS AND OUR PRIOR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. MY I THOUGHT OUR DIRECTION FROM THE RETREAT WAS OUR ALTERNATE AS A CITY. OUR PREFERRED ADD ALTERNATE IS A CITY AND WHERE WE WANTED THE CITY DOLLARS TO ENHANCE THE REC CENTER WAS TO AN ICE SHEET. BUT NOW WE WANT TO PUT BRIAN SMITH DOLLARS TO THE ICE SHEET IN ADDITION. YES FOR SURE. TO BE HONEST, I NEVER SAW A DRAWING OF WHAT KIND OF POOL YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN. I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS. IT WAS A CONCEPTUAL. I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE A REC CENTER HERE, WHICH I KNOW SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY INTO THAT POOL. SO I WAS JUST UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WAS GOING TO BE SIMILAR.

THERE WOULD BE A COMPETITION POOL SLASH LEISURE POOL ON ONE. CORNER, BUT I GUESS WE CAN SAY WE CAN SHARE. WE SHARED THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN BEFORE, BUT WE CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU. IS THE IS

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YEAH, IT MAY HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT AND THAT'S AT THAT POINT THEY HAD A CONTRACT WITH PARK FITNESS OR SOMETHING. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY GET. YEAH, YEAH, I'VE READ THE CONTRACT. THE PARK IS A 5050 KEARNS PARK. I MEAN, YOU HAVE A PLAN, YOU HAVE COPPER HILLS IS ALREADY CONTRACTED TO BE AT THIS NEW POOL THEN. YEAH, IT MAKES NO SENSE. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE. YEAH, IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE TO HAVE A POOL THAT RIGHT ACROSS THE BRIDGE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE WOULD LOVE THAT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO STEER THE CITY DOLLARS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS STEER THE CITY CONTRIBUTION TO AN ICE SHEET. IS THAT STILL THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL? WELL, WE DID TALK ABOUT ONE ICE SHEET AND I'M HEARING TWO. SO THAT WAS GETTING MY FOLLOW UP WOULD BE I'M TRYING TO MEET WITH THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT COPPER HILLS. AND I WILL SAY, HEY, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR MONEY FOR A SECOND ICE SHEET FOR YOUR HOCKEY TEAM AND YOUR SWIM TEAM. BUT IF YOU THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR BOLT, WHAT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MONEY FOR IT, YOU KNOW? I'LL TRY BOTH. YEAH.

SCHOOLS WON'T GIVE YOU MONEY FOR HOCKEY. IT'S GROWING A LOT QUICKER THAN. IS IT A SANCTIONED SPORT, THOUGH? IT'S A CLUB TEAM, BUT IT'S THE DISTRICT. IT'S ALSO COMING FROM YOUR PAY WE WENT TO A FEW WEEKS AGO. IT IS A GROWING. IT WON'T BE ONE OF THE QUICKEST GROWING IN THE VALLEY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE OKAY. LACROSSE FOR US.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO SAY ARE THE CITY'S MONEY IS FOR THIS OR FOR THIS, I THINK, AND I'LL SEND SOME EXAMPLES OF THIS OUT. IN THE PAST, PEOPLE HAVE JUST MADE A GENERAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE REC CENTER. SO THIS IS I'LL GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU COULD EARMARK IT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN SOUTH JORDAN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID EARMARK THEIR FUNDING FOR THE POOL, AND THAT WAS DIRECTLY TO BUILD THE POOL. THE COUNTY ALREADY WAS OPERATING THE REC CENTER, AND SO THEIR MONEY WAS FOR THE POOL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN DRAPER, WHEN THEY GAVE MONEY TO THAT POOL WAS EARMARKED TOWARDS THE POOL. BUT AS FAR AS THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN FOR HOCKEY OR WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN FOR A POOL. IT WOULD BE LIKE, HERE'S THE OVERALL COST OF THE REC CENTER. AND WEST JORDAN WOULD LIKE TO DONATE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

ONCE WE SEE WHAT IS THE PRICE OF THE OVERALL POOL, WHAT IS THE AD ALTERNATE. SO I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DISCUSS THAT, TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THAT CONTRIBUTION AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, USE THAT FOR THE APPLICATION AND FOR THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW WHERE THAT IS. OF COURSE, ONCE YOU SEE THE COST OF A POOL, IF THE COUNTY HAS MOVED TOWARDS AND I THINK COREY TALKED TO THIS AND AGAIN, I WOULD PROBABLY WE COULD EVEN GET SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY TO ATTEND ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS. BUT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THE COUNTY HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, THE COMPETITION POOLS REALLY ARE ONLY USED HEAVILY FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND SO IT'S HARD FOR THE COUNTY TO JUSTIFY PUTTING THAT THOSE KIND OF POOLS IN. AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE'VE SEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SOMETIMES THE CITIES ALSO HELP CONTRIBUTE FOR THAT. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE COUNTY HAS IN THE PAST DONE A PRESENTATION TO SHOW THE NUMBER OF POOLS AT REC CENTERS AND HOW THEY'RE USED AND WHO'S UTILIZING THEM AND WHAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE. SO IT MAY BE HELPFUL AS WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY AND SEE IF THEY COULD MAYBE DO A PRESENTATION TO YOU, OR AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON WHICH REC CENTERS HAVE POOLS, WHICH SCHOOLS HAVE POOLS, AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THEM. NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE ALMOST EVERY POOL HAS TWO SCHOOLS OR THREE SCHOOLS USING THEM. AND SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST TO SEE THAT. AND AGAIN, I THINK CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHERE THEIR SUPPORT IS. BUT I WOULD SAY OVERALL, FROM YOUR CONTRIBUTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO EARMARK IT TOWARDS ICE OR EARMARK IT TOWARDS ONE THING OR ANOTHER UNTIL MAYBE WE SEE THE OVERALL BUDGET AND METHOD KNOWS THAT. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE COST OF ONE ICE SHEET, WHAT IS THE COST OF TWO, AND WHAT IS THE COST OF A COMPETITION POOL VERSUS A LEISURE POOL. AND I THINK THEY'LL GIVE US ALL THOSE NUMBERS. SO THEN AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPLICATION, YOU CAN REALLY MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BASED ON HOW MUCH OF THE OVERALL COST OF THE BUILDING AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT GETTING FUNDED, AND THEN MAYBE MAKE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS AT THAT POINT, IF THAT'S HELPFUL. WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE. WHAT WAS THE. GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT. SORRY. SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I'M SORRY. I THINK WHEN WE TALK, WHEN WE SAY WE TALK, REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, DID WE

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BUT YOU CAN FIT TWO TO 3 OR 4. STILL FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FACEBOOK PAGE OR TO COME PRACTICE. BUT YOU WOULDN'T DO COMPETITION. SWIMMING IN A COMPETITION POOL IS GENERALLY A COLDER WATER YOU HAVE IN A REC, RIGHT? YEP. I KNOW WHEN I'VE BEEN BACK IN MY SWIMMING DAYS, I WOULD. I HATED GOING TO SWIM AT A REC CENTER WHERE THEY ONLY HAD THE LANES AND THE REC POOL BECAUSE IT WAS SO DANG HOT. WATER IS LIKE 82 DEGREES OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THE COMPETITION POOL IS LIKE 75 DEGREES AND IT'S YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE? THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO YEAH. LOOK AT WE SLEPT I THINK AT THE WORST CASE THEY LOOKED AT, LOOK, I SHOULD SAY WORST CASE, BUT THE ONE OPTION WE'D SEE WE'D HAVE 2 TO 3. STILL COMFORT FOR SWIMMERS THAT ARE YOUR LOCAL COMPETITIVE SWIMMERS THAT WANT TO GO. YEAH. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SWIM FOR EXERCISE. IT'S A LOW IMPACT EXERCISE. YOU NEED A PLACE TO DO IT. YOU DO SWEAT THE REC CENTER WITH A POOL, BUT SORRY, YOU CAN'T COME SWIM IN IT, YOU KNOW? SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF HAVING A SEPARATE POOL, WHETHER THAT'S A WHETHER THAT'S A COMPETITION POOL OR NOT. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE COMPETITION POOL. IT JUST HAS TO BE SEPARATE SO THAT IT'S NOT 82 DEGREES. GREAT. OH THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT THAT AS AN OPTION. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE DIFFERENT PRICES YEAH WE'LL PRICE THAT OUT AND LOOK AT IT NOW WHAT IS THE COST WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE BUILDING. WHAT IS THE I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I WANT TO THROW OUT NUMBERS YET. WELL, JUST FOR HISTORY. MY FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE REC CENTER IN THIS SPOT AND THE NUMBER JIM WRITING

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IT'S GOING TO BE FOR $45 MILLION. AND I WENT, EXCUSE ME. SO IF WE WERE TALKING AND SOMEBODY SAID A $10 MILLION BUILDING. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY HAD $10 MILLION ICE PARK. YOU SAY THAT'S THE SPRUNG STRUCTURE OVER THE ICE RINK AT THIS POINT. SO. OKAY, YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT ANOTHER NUMBER? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY WAS THINKING $10 MILLION WAS ACTUALLY NO ICE ONLY. BUT TO ME, 8 TO 10 FOR LIKE AN ICE RINK TO A COUPLE OF RINKS MAYBE I WANT I WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN. PRIORITIES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS GET A REC CENTER OUT THERE, PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY, GET SOMETHING OUT THERE. BUT THE COUNTY OWNS AND OPERATES. BUT THAT WE CONTRIBUTED AND PARTNERED WITH ON IT, SO THAT WE ARE THE PREFERRED SPOT FOR THE NEXT REC CENTER IN THIS COUNTY AND NOT LOSE OUT TO BLUFFDALE OR, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER COMPETITIVE SITES. OUR LAND COUNT IS THE COST, OR IS THAT OUR LAND IS PART OF OUR CONTRIBUTION? YES, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE FACTORED INTO THE WHAT I'M WONDERING, THE BIG NUMBER. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE LAND ITSELF IS WORTH OVER A MILLION, A LOT MORE THAN IT WAS. YEAH, BUT NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE CONSTRUCTION NUMBERS. I'M SEEING A FEW HEADS NOD. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. WHETHER IT'S GOT A POOL, AN ICE RINK, WHATEVER, AND HOWEVER MUCH THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION IS TO ASSURE, WE'VE GOT THE NEXT REC CENTER COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY, OUR PRIORITY IS TO BE THAT NEXT ONE ON THE LIST. AND I WAS HOPING FOR JUST ONE RINK. BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S TALK OF TWO RINKS. SHOW US. EVERYONE'S SUGGESTED MOST OF THE RINKS HERE THAT ARE ONE RINK ARE INDEPENDENTLY RANKED.

THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE COUNTY RINK. AND SO THE COUNTY HAS BEEN PUSHING TO JUST GET ONE RINK.

YEAH. AND THEY'RE TRYING THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A SECOND. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A SECOND ONE AS PART OF THIS. THEY'RE TRYING BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAS TWO. AND YEAH STEINER HAS TWO AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A THIRD. THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE OUT OF THE PARK. SO THE NEW BALLPARK WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE WINTER THE OUTDOOR THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THE OUTFIELD ICE.

FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE NEW BALLPARK I'VE HEARD SIMILAR STUFF THERE. IS THERE ANY. ICE RINKS? ONE OF THE THINGS. SO. ASSUMING WE ARE TRYING TO GET A REC CENTER WITH THE COUNTY THROUGH THE SAP PROCESS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON A JOINT APPLICATION, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT IS THE AMOUNT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ACROSS THE COUNTY'S RECREATION ASSETS HAS GROWN DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST 10 TO 20 YEARS, AND I'M WORRIED THAT THE NEXT YOU SEE ON THIS LIST, THE ZAP AUTHORIZE, THE ZAP REAUTHORIZATION, MET THE VOTERS, APPROVED THE NEXT ROUND OF STAFF, BUT THAT DIDN'T ISSUE THE BONDS. THE OTHER THING I ALWAYS THOUGHT, BUT I'VE BEEN CORRECTED ON RECENTLY, WAS THAT THEY ISSUED BONDS AGAINST THE ZAP TAX, BUT THEY ACTUALLY GO OUT AND ISSUE A GEO BOND. SO IT HAS TO GET THE GEO BOND HAS TO GET AUTHORIZED BY VOTERS AS WELL. AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, I THINK IT'S STILL PAID BACK THROUGH ZAP FUNDS, BUT IT'S SECURED BY THE GEO. THE GEO PROPERTY TAX ACT, WHICH GIVES A MUCH LOWER INTEREST RATE. ANYWAYS. IF WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT THIS NEXT GEO BOND WILL BE HIGHLY WEIGHTED TOWARD DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTY PORTFOLIO, NOT A NEW REC CENTER OR NEW PROJECTS. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING IS THAT WE MAY NOT THE COUNTY WE MEANING SALT LAKE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, MAY NOT DO A FULL BIG REC CENTER THIS NEXT GO ROUND. I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN LINE AND WE'RE READY AND WE'RE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD ON THAT. WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SITE IS JUSTIFIED IN THE COUNTY MASTER PLAN PROCESS. HOWEVER, ONE THING I'VE TOLD COREY RECENTLY IS WE NEED A PLAN B IF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO A BIG $150 MILLION BOND, BUT 100 OF THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE 50 MILLION FOR NEW PROJECTS, AND THEY MIGHT SPREAD THAT AROUND THE WHOLE COUNTY. US GETTING A $50 MILLION REC CENTER MAY BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING OUT THERE ON WOOD PARK

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JUST FORGET THE WEST. YEAH. FOR SURE. RIGHT. WE WILL KICK AND SCREAM THAT WE NEED OUR SHARE, THAT WE'RE READY, WE'RE PREPARED, AND OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE IT. FOR ALL THOSE REASONS YOU MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO, WHETHER IT'S OUR PLAN A OR OUR PLAN B, IS WE PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON THE APPLICATION THAT IT'S A JOINT APPLICATION, A JOINT APPLICATION, NOT A WEST JORDAN ALONE APPLICATION TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON A JOINT APPLICATION, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY IDENTIFIES IN THEIR MASTER PLAN AS A RECREATION AND RECREATION DEFICIT. RIGHT NOW. WELL, LAST GO AROUND, THE COUNTY IDENTIFIED OUR SITE AS A RECREATION CAMPUS LOCATION. THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED YET THE NEW MASTER PLAN, BUT WE ASSUME IT'S STILL ON THERE. IF WE GO. IF WE GO WITH THE PLAN B, THAT WOULD BE MY HESITANCY WITH SWITCHING SPOTS OR SWITCHING PLANS ENTIRELY IS WE RUN THE RISK OF SAYING THE COUNTY SAID THERE'S NOT A NEED. NEXT TO GENE FULLMER. THERE'S ALREADY A REC CENTER THERE. WE HAVE A NEED OUT IN THE WEST HALF OF OUR CITY, PROBABLY A THREE STORY. QUARRY.

WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? HOLLY? HOLLY? SURE. JUST. CORBIN, I WOULD JUST SAY I'M HAPPY TO. A

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I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. I THINK BEING CREATIVE OUT THERE AND MAYBE DOING SOMETHING. FINDING PARTNERS AND DOING SOMETHING LIKE I THINK AN ICE RINK SOONER THAN LATER IS WISE BECAUSE GUESS WHY THE KIDS ARE PRACTICING IN SOUTH JORDAN? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T COME TO THEM PRIOR. SO THE IF SWITCHING A LOCATION AND DIVERTING FUNDS AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COULD THROW A COG IN THE WHEEL, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR CREATIVE TALKING AND MOVING FORWARD SOONER OR LATER IS A GOOD IDEA. I JUST SEEN A LOT EVEN LIKE I SAID, WE IRPA THE HOCKEY CLUB DOWN THERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOWN THERE. THEY'VE SHOWED NUMBERS OF WHEN THEY STARTED JUNIOR JAZZ AND HOW MANY THE PARTICIPANTS TOOK OUT, AND THEN THEY SHOWED THE TREND OF THE HOCKEY AND INTEREST OF SIGNUPS, AND IT WAS OUTPACING THAT ALREADY. AND SO THEY'RE KIND OF THEY'RE PREPPING COMMUNITIES. HOW CAN WE HELP? BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SEEING A BIG A BIG BOOM IN IT. SO I LIKE YOU LIKE I'M WITH YOU ABOUT GETTING AHEAD OF IT INSTEAD OF LETTING SOMEBODY ELSE. AND BY STARTING EARLIER, DO WE PUT A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BUG TO THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY MORE SERIOUS AND GIVE US A BETTER CHANCE AT GETTING THEIR STUFF? I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT AND HAVE THE COUNTY SAY, YOU GUYS HAVE YOURS. YOU'VE DONE YOURS. YOU DON'T NEED OUR HELP. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING WHICH WAY. RIGHT. SO I WANT TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF THAT. OUR OUR FUNDING COMMITMENT IS CONTINGENT ON PAIRING WITH THE COUNTY ON A JOINT APPLICATION. BUT IF WE CAN IN PAIRING, WE CAN SPEED THINGS UP BY STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON OUR PART EARLY. MAYBE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORMAL PROCESS. THE NORMAL ZAP PROCESS IS THE PROJECT GETS APPROVED. THE BOND GETS APPROVED BY VOTERS, AND THEN THEY START A FORMAL DESIGN, FULL DESIGN, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. THAT'S THE SAFEST ROUTE, BUT THAT'S ALSO A SLOWER ROUTE. A LOT OF VOTERS ON THE WEST SIDE NOW, SO HOPEFULLY THEY REMEMBER THAT. AND I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT A HOCKEY RINK. I'M GOING TO BE AGAINST THE SPRUNG STRUCTURE FOR HOCKEY RINK. I THINK IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE THREE LITTLE PIGS ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE STRAW OR THE WOODEN HOUSE OR THE OR THE NICELY BUILT ONE. I DON'T THINK THE MURRAY ONE IS A TAJ MAHAL,

[00:45:05]

SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. THROUGH 2015, MASTER PLAN SAYS THAT OUR REC CENTER SHOULD INCLUDE A POOL WITH LEISURE AND COMPETITION COMPONENTS. THAT'S TRUE, THEY SAID. THAT'S KIND OF A HOBBY. OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, THEY BUILT A LOT OF THEM.

AND THAT'S AN OLD TEN YEAR OLD PLAN. YEAH. THIS IS WHEN THE POPULATION INCREASES IN WEST JORDAN CITY, WHICH IT HASN'T DONE THAT. IT HASN'T DONE THAT. IT HASN'T DONE THAT, AT LEAST ON THE WEST SIDE EVERY DAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT OR OTHER THINGS WE COULD LOOK AT OR IT'S A FUN ASSIGNMENT. SO THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE. SO THE FIELD HOUSES ARE KIND OF A GOAL. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE GOT. YEAH THEY'VE KIND OF GONE PRIVATE. THIS THIS HAS REALLY TAKEN OFF BUILDING THOSE AND FILLING THAT NEED. AND THEY SAID FROM MARCH TO NOVEMBER DRAPER IT'S PRACTICALLY EMPTY. IT'S JUST NOT USED AT ALL BECAUSE THE GARDNER VILLAGE ONE IS A PRIVATE. YEAH, A PRIVATE ONE. THEN THEY'RE BUILDING THAT. WE'RE BUILDING THAT NEW BIG ONE IT LOOKS LIKE BY WELLS FARGO UP THERE. IT'S HUGE. I THINK IT'S A SPORTS ACADEMY. IT SAID I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I CAN'T I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT CALLED. RIGHT BY CRESTWOOD TARGET. OKAY. IT'S AN INDOOR. IT'S HUGE. AND THEY INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY I FOUR RIGHT.

YEAH I NINE MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. YEAH. CORRECT. THAT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.

LET'S GO SWIMMING. SKATING ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. EVEN IN THE HOT SEAT

[b. Presentation of the West Jordan Emergency Management Plan]

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IN A DISASTER AND OUR NEWLY PROMULGATED COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO THIS SLIDE, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND WHY THE COUNCIL'S ROLE IS IMPORTANT. AND SO JUST JUST A QUICK NOTE, COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON AND COUNCIL MEMBER GREEN HAVE LEFT THE ROOM. THANK YOU. NOT YOUR FAULT, I SAY. AM I THAT BAD? SO IN ORDER TO ASSESS THE OR ASSESS THE PLAN, WHAT WILL BE PUTTING IT OUT ON THE SHAREPOINT? IT'LL BE IN A FOLDER CALLED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO YOU'LL HAVE I THINK THAT WAS SENT OUT TO YOU ALREADY THAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE SO THAT YOU ALL CAN FIND OUT. WE CONSIDER THIS PUBLIC SAFETY SENSITIVE, YOU KNOW, ON THE PUBLIC TO ALL HAVE ACCESS TO IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF OUR SECRET PLANS ARE, EXCEPT THAT I CAN COME AND GIVE BRIEFINGS ON ANY PARTS OF THE PLAN, IF YOU WISH, AND MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO YOU. AND ALSO, ALAN HERE, OUR COUNCIL OFFICE DIRECTOR, HE HE CAN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. CAN I GET A PAPER COPY? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. I LIKE THAT READING ONLINE THING. NO, I CAN'T MARK IT UP.

VERY WELL. I'LL GO BACK TO IT. I'M WITH YOU. I LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT PERTAINING TO THE PLAN? ALL I NEED TO KNOW IS THAT IF WE GET A PHONE CALL, WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE MONEY. THAT'S OUR OUR JOB. GOT IT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY YOUR ROLES IS AS MARK GOVERNANCE THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION GOING OUT THERE AND TALKING TO THE FOLKS. AND ALSO ANY POLICY OVERSIGHTS THAT THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS. WE WANT WE HAVE POLICE AND FIRE FOR OPERATIONAL OUR PUBLIC WORK. EVERYBODY'S OPERATIONAL AND WE'LL BE INVOLVED SO THAT WE

[00:50:01]

SORRY. OH, SORRY. MY CLICKER WAS GIVING UP ON HERE. YEAH OKAY. SORRY. TAKE A MINUTE. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YOU CAN JUST LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER. THAT'S MY. WELL, I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE READING THE RIGHT THING. CAN I COMMENT ON THIS SLIDE AND THE LAST SLIDE? EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS, I THINK, FREQUENTLY MISUNDERSTOOD. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT INCLUDES A PROCESS OF PLANNING AND PREPARATION MITIGATION. WHEN A DISASTER HAPPENS, THERE'S THE RESPONSE PHASE. AND THEN THERE'S A REALLY LONG AND DRAWN OUT RECOVERY PHASE. THE CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE. THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS IN THE PREPARATION, THE MITIGATION, MAKING SURE RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED. STAFFS NUDGE, THE COMMUNITIES NUDGE TO PREPARE TO GET THINGS READY, MITIGATE DISASTER AREAS. BUT WHEN THE EMERGENCY HAPPENS AND WE'RE IN THE RESPONSE PHASE, THERE'S NOT A BIG ROLE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S WHEN POLICE FIRE. PUBLIC WORKS ARE ROLLING THE TRUCKS.

THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING THE EOC AND FIGURING OUT WHERE DO WE PUT OUT THE FIRE AND WHERE DO WE HAUL DEBRIS. BUT AS WE QUICKLY MOVE FROM RESPONSE TO RECOVERY, AND THAT RECOVERY PHASE GOES ON AND ON AND ON, THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE BECOMES VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WITH THINGS LIKE THIS. DO WE REZONE SPACES THAT ARE PRONE TO DISASTERS? DO WE ENACT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURES? DO WE ADJUST BUILDING CODES FOR RELIANCE? ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE PREPAREDNESS MITIGATION PHASE. AND IN THE RESPONSE PHASE. THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE COUNCIL PLAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE, NOT IN THAT RESPONSE PHASE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AND SOME OF THIS DURING COVID, WE HAD TO WE HAD EXTENDED DISASTER DECLARATIONS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS UNTIL THE STATE CAUGHT UP WITH SOME OF THE THINGS, LIKE ALLOWING THE MEETINGS TO BE REMOTE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAD A LOT OF THAT. AND THEN ALSO WITH MAYBE TEMPORARY ZONING OR BUILDING CODES TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THAT TIME WE SUSPENDED THE RULES. SOME OF THE SOME OF THE SIGNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE WAS I MEAN, AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE THINK OF WHEN WE THINK OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? WE THINK OF EARTHQUAKES AND FIRES AND NATURAL DISASTER EVENTS. BUT THAT IT'S NOT. HOPEFULLY 1 TO 1, ONE IN A LIFETIME EVENT AROUND EVERY 100 YEARS OR SO. BUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK OF THIS OUTSIDE OF JUST THE REALM OF EARTHQUAKES AND FIRES AND TERRORIST ATTACKS. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT HAPPEN. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN OR THE EXTENT, I SHOULD SAY SO, IT GIVES YOU A LIST IN THERE OF WHAT HAZARDS AND RISKS THAT WE ARE FACED WITH HERE. AND THERE

[00:55:04]

BUT SO THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL ARE KEPT INFORMED. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WORKED, WHEN I WORKED 3 OR 4 ONES THAT I WORKED IN OUR JOB AT THE UTAH NATIONAL GUARD, THE GENERAL NEVER CAME IN. WE ALL WORKED IN THE JOB, BUT WE ALL KNEW WHEN THE BRIEFINGS WERE AND WHAT WE HAD TO GET READY FOR. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD SAY. I WOULD, I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY THE COUNCIL DOESN'T ENTER THE EOC. IT'S NOT A SHOULD NOT IT'S A DOZEN. AND EOC SETS UP A REGULAR BRIEFING SCHEDULE SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN STAY ON TOP OF THINGS WITHOUT JUST DROPPING IN.

WE ALWAYS KNOW THAT THERE'S A. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WORK IN THE MILITARY. THERE'S ALWAYS THE END OF SHIFT BRIEFS AND THE MORNING AND AT NIGHT AND ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE. AND WE HAVE A GOOD BATTLE RHYTHM TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S WHERE I

[01:00:06]

IT WAS. YEAH. TWO YEARS AGO, FEMA CAME OUT HERE AND WE ACTUALLY IT WAS A WEEK LONG PROGRAM THAT INTEGRATED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND COUNCIL WAS INVITED IF THEY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. I PARTICIPATED. WAS INTERESTING. WE DO. JEFF IS TASKED WITH DOING TWO MAJOR EXERCISES A YEAR. TYPICALLY ONE IS. ON THE TERM. ONE IS KIND OF NOT WELL, WE DID SOME TABLETOPS, ONE IS FUNCTIONAL AND ONE IS FULL SCALE. SO IN ADDITION TO TABLETOP EXERCISES WHERE THE TEAM OR DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM WILL GATHER WORK AROUND A TABLETOP THROUGH A SCENARIO, WHAT WOULD WE DO? WHAT DO WE CONSIDER LET'S, YOU KNOW, CREATE SOME TO DO LISTS AND SOME PREPARATIONS THROUGH SCENARIO. USUALLY IN THE SPRING, WE'LL DO A FUNCTIONAL AND IN THE FALL WE'LL DO A FULL SCALE OR VICE VERSA. BUT SPRING FALL PRE BIG EXERCISES. THERE'S USUALLY 75 TO 100 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE EXERCISE. OFTEN A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS FROM NEIGHBORING CITIES AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AND HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATIONS AND SO ON. SO I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE EXERCISE JEFF'S BEEN MAKING US DO AND WANT TO KEEP UP THAT PACE. KEEP YOU INFORMED ON HOW THOSE GO AS WELL, AND INVITE YOU TO COME OBSERVE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

STILL DOING SHAKE OUT. YES. SO ACTUALLY THE SHAKEOUT IS NEXT WEEK. ON THE 17TH WE WILL BE PARTICIPATING. I SIGNED THE CITY UP TO DO THAT. I'VE SENT ALL THE DIRECTORS. I'VE SENT INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO DO THREE PHASES, THREE THINGS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PARTICIPATE BY DROP, COVER. HOLD ON. EVERYBODY GET UNDER YOUR DESK. YOU KNOW THAT DRILL? THEN WE WANT TO. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN EVACUATION IN THIS NEW BUILDING, SO WE WANT TO EVACUATE ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. AND THEN FROM THAT, WE WANT TO DO AN ACCOUNTABILITY CHECK AND MAKE SURE WE CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, WHETHER THEY'RE AT WORK ON VACATION, SOMEWHERE AROUND THE CITY, WORKING, OR HOWEVER THAT MAY BE, IS BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT, HOPEFULLY FOR 100%. SO IT'LL BE IT'LL BE A SIMPLE EXERCISE. IT WON'T BE. WE CALL IT A DRILL, ACTUALLY AN EXERCISE. BUT WE WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT. SO A WEEK FROM THURSDAY. YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO ASK ANOTHER DUMB QUESTION THAT IT MIGHT BE YOUR LEADER. IT MIGHT BE BACK HERE.

ARE WE DOING ARE WE DOING ANY. SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVACUATION DRILL. ARE WE DOING ANY DRILLS FOR ACTIVE SHOOTERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS MORNING AT 7:00 OVER AT PUBLIC WORKS, THERE WAS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL, DRILL. IT WASN'T A DRILL. IT WAS A I THINK IT WAS JUST A TRAINING, A TRAINING EVENT. AND THEN TOMORROW MORNING AT 7:00,

[01:05:04]

CHUCK. ALL THAT CRAP AND THEN THE POLICE, THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING ONE. SO I THINK WE NEED ONE. I THINK WE NEED ONE FOR COUNCIL. I YOU WANT TO HAVE ONE DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING OR. NO, NO, NO, WE NEED TO HAVE A DRILL FOR WHAT WE DO DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING. IF AN ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WE DID. WE PUT IN BALLISTIC MATERIAL ON THE DAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRACTICE ON WHAT WE DO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN SHOOTING. I MEAN, COME ON, WHAT? ABOUT WHAT WE CALL THE SILENT? YOU GOT SOME IDEAS? I'M TOTALLY SERIOUS. WE'LL GET RIGHT ON IT, ZACH. WE'LL GET RIGHT ON IT. YOU CAN DO A CLOSED SESSION TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. DOES THIS PLAN INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, OUR MAIN BUILDINGS FOR WHEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE JUST SAW THE BIG EARTHQUAKES HAPPEN IN THE SOUTHEAST, YOU KNOW, WITH SCHOOLS. WATER FALLING OFF THE TOP OF HOTELS. WE HAVE EVERYTHING SET UP FOR EACH BUILDING THAT THERE'S EMERGENCY PLAN THAT HAPPENS FOR THE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. LIKE, DOES THIS INCLUDE, LIKE A PLAN FOR EACH BUILDING WHEN THERE'S EMERGENCY? YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS AN EARTHQUAKE GOES? GOOD PLAN FOR EACH CITY BUILDING. MAINLY IT WAS WHAT IT TALKS ABOUT IS EVACUATION PROCESS. AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THE DROP COVER. HOLD ON. AND THEY GET OUT AND DO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOUR KIDS, RIGHT? DO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO? WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT OUT NEXT THURSDAY. BUT THEY'VE BEEN INFORMED AND WE'LL SEE IF THEY SEND OUT AN EMAIL. IT'S GOING TO BE ALL ABOVE BOARD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TRYING TO TRICK ANYBODY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED YET. WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO THEM. MOST MOST OF THEM THEY KNOW GO OUT HERE ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE IN THE PARKING LOT, AND THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ROCK. IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO HERD THIRD GRADERS TO THEIR SPOT THAN ADULTS. ADULTS TEND TO DO WHAT THEY WANT, WANDER A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT YES, WE'RE WE'VE DONE SOME AND THE NEXT ONE IS NEXT WEEK. WE'LL TRY AGAIN TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT AN EARTHQUAKE. YES. AND HOW TO REPORT IS IMPORTANT. HOW TO REPORT, NOT JUST WHERE TO GO. OKAY. SOMEBODY WHO'S DONE THOSE DRILLS, EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE A PRE-SPECIFIED RALLY POINT FOR THAT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE IN THE BUILDING NEAR THE THAT THAT THE NEAREST DOOR IS THE YOU KNOW, THE NEAREST EXIT IS THE EXIT BEHIND YOU. RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S GOT TO GOT TO BE CONTINGENCY IN PLACE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAW OUR BUILDING OUT SOUTH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUARTER MILE FROM FRONT TO BACK. AND IF SOMEBODY HAPPENED TO BE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THEY DON'T GO TO THE BACK, RIGHT? ME THEY JUST GET OUT OF THE BUILDING. HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU REPORT WHEN THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T DON'T GO TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE BECAUSE THE NEAREST DOOR WAS BEHIND THEM. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE DOING THAT. ADULTS ARE HARDER THAN THIRD GRADERS AND THEN IT DOESN'T WORK. AND PART OF PART OF THIS EXERCISE IS GOING TO BE DETERMINE. I MEAN, IF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T NORMALLY OVER IN PUBLIC WORKS, THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR WAY AROUND IN PUBLIC WORKS. GOOD LUCK. YEAH. I MEAN, WHICH ARM AM I IN? YOU MIGHT GET LOST IN PUBLIC. IN REALITY THAT HAPPENS. AND THAT'S WHEN. THE FIRE RESCUE IS GOING TO COME IN AND START SEARCHING FOR BODIES.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS OUT OF THE BUILDING. BECAUSE EVEN DURING A DRILL, SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO AND BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO AND I KNOW CHIEF MAXFIELD, WE DON'T WANT TO SEND GUYS IN THERE UNNECESSARILY. WE'RE PUTTING NOW, WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN HARM'S WAY. AND SO WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF THE BUILDING. AND OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE WILL BE THOSE THAT ARE VISITORS, CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW. AND I'M WORKING ON A PLAN WITH THE RISK DEPARTMENT OR WITH TO MAKE PEOPLE, CERTAIN PEOPLE IDENTIFY THEM AS RESPONSIBLE FOR CHECKING COMMON AREAS AND CHECKING CHECKING RESTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT WE DON'T LEAVE ANYBODY ALONE. DO WE HAVE DO WE HAVE A WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY, LIKE BRIAN, BE ABLE TO ACCESS ANYTHING THAT WOULD TELL HIM HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR THAT DAY? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, DO WE? I

[01:10:07]

THERE ARE CAMERA SYSTEMS AND EMERGENCY. SYSTEMS. OKAY. NO, THEY GO TO THE FRONT. THAT'S IT.

THEY DON'T GO BEYOND THAT UNLESS THEY'RE CONTRACTORS. SO. LET'S SAY HERE THEY COME INTO THE ATRIUM AND THEY REALLY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE, OR THEY'RE HERE. ANYBODY CAN WALK IN THAT FRONT DOOR. NO. SO AS I SAY, ANYWHERE IN THE ATRIUM. BUT I GUESS IF YOU IF YOU LEAVE YOUR DOORS OPEN, LIKE THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN, THERE'S ALWAYS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO IT'S COUNCIL. SO IT DEPENDS. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT. WHEN THE BIG ONE COMES BECAUSE IT WILL COME. SO THANKS FOR HELPING US. AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE WE DESIGNATE PLACES IN THIS BUILDING. SO WE DON'T RUN INTO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE RAN INTO ONCE BEFORE. SO ALL WE DID LAST WEEK, WE HAD A FIRST AMENDMENT AUDITOR COME THROUGH LESS THAN A WEEK AGO, AND OUR STAFF WAS SO WELCOMING AND SO KIND AND HAD SUCH CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY SAID, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS. THIS IS THE NICEST CITY HALL AND THE NICEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER BEEN IN. MAYOR GREETED THEM, STAFF, GREETED THEM, SHOWED THEM THE AREAS OF THE BUILDING THAT WERE PUBLIC. THEY TOOK THEIR VIDEO AND THEY LEFT. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. SO YEAH, WE'RE VERY AWARE. WOULDN'T EVEN COME HERE UNTIL THEY ENDED UP AND SHOW THE OUTRAGE. YEAH. YOU ARE NOT WRONG AND I. HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

I APPARENTLY NEED TO GO SEE MY WIFE BECAUSE SHE HAS A BUTLER. SO I AM GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF,

[c. Discussion of Council Budget Priorities]

OH, NO. YOU NEED. VERY INTELLIGENT. SO I WANTED TO. I WANTED TO LOOK INTO THE OPPORTUNITY TO. I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE RODEO STANDS. I FEEL LIKE THE RODEO STANDS AT LEAST THE MAIN. THE MAIN STAND FOR GETTING TO THE POINT WITH THE. THE QUESTION.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WE REPLACE THE MAIN STANDS OR DO WE REPLACE ALL ARENA. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A BUDGET QUESTION THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A BUDGET QUESTION FOR MAYBE MOVING INTO NEXT YEAR. SO WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. WE HAVE A PLAN TO FILL. IT. I JUST I'LL BE BACK FOR CITY COUNCIL. I JUST CAME BACK FOR THE END OF THIS. SO WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN LIKE, A CONCEPT DESIGN. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR WHAT? WELL, I THINK WE NEED I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE RODEO GROUNDS. I'D LIKE TO SEE REPLACE THOSE STANDS. SO WHEN YOU SAY CONCEPT DESIGN, I DON'T WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO CONCEPT DESIGN. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS RIGHT. WELL, WE HAVE THE PARK MASTER PLAN. RIGHT? BUT YOU'RE RIGHT WITH CONCEPT. I'VE BEEN ON THE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS NOW, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE RODEO ARENA YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK IT'S TIME WE UPDATE. WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. AND SO YEAH I MEAN WE CAN PIECEMEAL IT. WE CAN DO THE GRANDSTANDS FIRST AND SEE

[01:15:04]

THEY'RE EVENING, 20, 30 YEARS OLD, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK, BRIAN? I THINK 35. BUT THEY WERE THERE WHEN I 35. YEAH. I THINK THEY'RE MENTIONED IN THAT HISTORY OF WEST JORDAN AND HISTORY OF WEST JORDAN. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BLEACHERS THAT STANDS, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT. RIGHT NOW. YOU'VE GOT THE CHUTES ON ONE SIDE, YOU'VE GOT OTHER CHUTES ON THERE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RODEO ARENAS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE. THE CHUTES ARE ON THE NORTH OR SOUTH END FOR THE BROCK BUCKS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, AND YOU STILL WANT THEM ON THE EAST SIDE. WE OUGHT TO WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT AT LEAST SOME PHILOSOPHY THINGS THERE. BUT YEAH. THE LETTERS CHUTES BUT NO LETTERS. ALL RIGHT. BOB OR JACK WANTS TO GO NEXT. NO BOB FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AROUND THE ROOM BOB WAS AT. HEY, BOB. I MEAN, I MEAN, I DID HAVE JUST AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE RODEO GROUNDS, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S HUGE MONEY, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CITY IDENTITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PUT SOME MONEY INTO OUR EVENTS THAT WE LOOK AT CREATING SOME OF THESE EVENTS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE EVENTS WE COULD DO, LIKE A TREE LIGHTING IN THE PARK, OR SOME OTHER EVENTS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE HUGE, COSTLY, AND PROBABLY EVEN THINGS WE CAN FIND SOME SPONSORSHIP FOR. BUT THINGS ARE GOING TO START LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR OUR IDENTITY. AND SINCE THAT'S AN AREA THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH AND I'VE DONE STUFF ALL OVER THE PLACE ON THAT, THAT'S WHERE I SEE A THING THAT WE COULD USE SOME MONEY AND START SETTING UP. LIKE I SAID, THE IDENTITY. SO THAT'S WHERE MY THING WOULD BE GOING. IT'S A SIMPLE THING, BUT IT'S GETTING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. I THINK WITH THAT, SOME MONEY WOULD ALSO GO INTO OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND WHAT WE DO TO COMMUNICATE EVENTS. AND WITH THAT, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF VIDEO AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD HELP THAT. SO AGAIN, NOT HUGE COSTS, BUT THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN DO THAT COULD MAKE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT AND SOMETHING WE COULD EVEN IF WE GOT ON THE BALL AND DID SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. WITHIN MONTHS WITH THE MONEY. SO DO YOU HAVE LIKE DRAPER ALREADY HAS, THEIR BIG CHRISTMAS TREE AT CHRISTMAS TIME, RIGHT. THE TREE OF LIFE.

SO IN MY MIND, WE NEED SOMETHING THAT IS EQUALLY AS DRAWING BUT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST USE WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING. SO DO YOU HAVE I WILL WITH THAT. I'M THINKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST IN OUR IN OUR VETERANS PARK, I THINK WE DID SOMETHING THAT WAS A MULTICULTURAL EVENT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE THIS TREE, THAT KIND OF A GOOD FOCAL POINT. THAT'S A GOOD. AND WHAT I'M THINKING IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD. PHOTO POINT. YOU KNOW, A PHOTO SHOOT AREA. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE MOUNTAINS IN THE BACKGROUND. WE CAN HAVE OUR CITY HALL IN THE BACKGROUND OF ALL OF THIS, AND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE NOW DOING STUFF WITH. I THINK WITHOUT MUCH MONEY, WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AN ALMOST DICKENS FESTIVAL TYPE THING IN OUR PARK THAT DURING COVID, WHEN ALL THE FLAGS FROM ALL THE NATIONS WERE AROUND,

[01:20:01]

I THINK MY FIRST PRIORITY IS NOT AS MUCH FUN AS OTHER THINGS BUT ROADS. SO I HAVE AN IDEA ON THAT AND WONDER WHAT YOUR OPINION IS LIKE. BRIAN BROUGHT US ALL THIS MONEY THAT IT COST FOR ALL THESE NEW ROADS AND THEN THIS MUCH. WHAT IF WHAT IF WE, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN NEW ROADS ONE YEAR, SPEND ALL THAT MONEY TOWARDS MAINTENANCE ON ROADS? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD GO OVER, BUT TO ME IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF WE PAUSED ONE YEAR OF ASPHALT AND WE DID STILL CRACKS AND WE DO ALL THAT CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW. BUT WHAT IF WE TOOK ALL THE MONEY ONE YEAR AND USED IT ALL FOR MAINTENANCE INSTEAD OF REDOING A ROAD THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REDONE, THAT IS, I KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK WE CAN EXTEND THE LIFE OF OUR ROADS AND IF WE EXTENDED THE MONEY THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, BRIAN? YOU COULD, BUT YOU'RE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WITH. MADE WITH BECAUSE THE ROADS NEED TO BE OVERLAID. YOU SKIP A YEAR. PCI IS ALREADY LOW ON THOSE ONES THAT WERE ON THE LIST. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GET WORSE. JUST TAKE ALL THE MONEY YOU WOULD HAVE SPENT ON NEW ROADS AND PUT IT IN THE MAINTENANCE. DOESN'T SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON NEW ROADS. CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? YOU WERE RIGHT, BRIAN. DON'T CONFUSE. OH, SORRY.

OKAY. KEEP GOING. SORRY, I DON'T CONFUSE YOU. SO I THINK WE HAVE ROUGHLY $8 MILLION THAT WE HAVE

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I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ASKING. NO, I WAS BRIAN WAS RIGHT. ROADS. I KNOW IT'S NOT AS MUCH FUN. SORRY. I MEANT IT'S NOT AS MUCH FUN, BUT ROADS IS AN ISSUE. AND THEN. BUT EXPAND WHEN YOU SAY ROADS IS AN ISSUE. BECAUSE JUST LIKE THIS CONVERSATION, GETTING OUR PCI MAINTENANCE, NOT GETTING NEW LANES, NO, NOT NOT NEW LANES OR GETTING MORE MONEY TO MAKE THIS JUST WHAT WE HAVE BEEN COVERING THE RECOVERY OUR OUR PCI, PCI DEFICIT, IMPROVING THE PCI DEFICIT. THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH WORDING. THAT'S THAT'S DEFINITELY A PRIORITY. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT AS FLASHY OR FUN, BUT BUT I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND IT IMPACTS THEIR OWN POCKETBOOK WHEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A LINEMAN FIXED ON THEIR CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S HOW IT CAN HAVE A BIG IMPACT. IF THEY HIT A POTHOLE OR SOMETHING ALONG. YES, IT'S A STATE RESIDENT NOW. YES, IT'S A STATE RESIDENT. IT'S. ANOTHER BIG THING THAT I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT. WELL, MAYBE NOT THAT BIG OF IT. MAYBE A SMALLER THING IS THE BRIDGE OVER THE JORDAN RIVER AT 7800 SOUTH. AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH MAYOR BURTON ABOUT UNDER THE RIVER AT THAT. ISN'T THE SIDEWALK UNDER THE RIVER? YES, THAT'S WHAT I THINK. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY. YES. THE SIDEWALK IS UNDER THE BRIDGE. BUT THE BRIDGE OF THE ROAD BRIDGE GOES OVER THE RIVER AND IT'S TOO LITTLE WATER. THE WATER GOES OVER THE SIDEWALK. AND THERE ARE WAYS TO DREDGE OUT SIDEWALK AND, AND HAVE THE SIDEWALK GO LOWER THAN THE WATER LEVEL. THEY DO IT IN, IN EUROPE ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. IT'S PROBABLY BE CHEAPER JUST TO RAISE THE BRIDGE UP AND PROBABLY THE THING THE WHOLE THING WITH THAT IS WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE ENTITIES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. MAYOR BURTON SAID HE'S NOT WILLING TO PUT IT INTO THE INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE WE NEED TO WORK WITH MIDVALE CITY, SALT LAKE COUNTY, THE RIVER JORDAN RIVER VALLEY OR THE JORDAN RIVER TRAIL COMMISSION. AND SO THERE'S LOTS OF MOVING PARTS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO JUST SEE THAT G. SOMEDAY I'M THERE'S SOMEBODY GOING TO JAYWALK ACROSS THAT ROAD AND GET KILLED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HIKE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TRACK STATION TO CROSS THE ROAD. WELL, THEY ALREADY JAYWALK. IT'S JUST. YEAH, LUCKILY, ONE OF THESE POINTS, AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET KILLED. I'M JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, SOMEBODY WAS KILLED DURING THIS COUNCIL MEETING RIDING THEIR MOTORCYCLE. RIGHT. AND SO AND WE CAN'T PREVENT EVERY DEATH. BUT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS PREVENTABLE, THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK UNDER THAT ROAD IF IT'S NOT FLOODED. THEY AND THEY CAN'T. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN THAT WAY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M NOT SEEING ANY. FORCES MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. IT'S REALLY A SERIOUS ISSUE IN MY MIND, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE ONLY ONE PIECE OF THE PIE WHEN IT COMES TO FIXING THAT ISSUE, SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT CAN BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. SO MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BROUGHT IT UP. BUT I WANTED TO THANK YOU. AND THEN. ZACH WILL SECOND ME ON THIS, OUR

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THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. TEN, 15 MINUTES. I COUPLE OF ISSUES.

CHAD TOOK ONE BUT I, I AGREE YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE STANDS. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO THE RODEO ARENA. WE NEED TO DECIDE. WE NEED TO DECIDE AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND NOT JUST KEEP KICKING THE ROAD DOWN AND KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. FOR EXAMPLE, SOUTH END WHERE WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS. IT'S GRAVEL WITH WEEDS. GREAT RODEO. THANKS. I KNOW IT'S STILL GRAVEL. IT'S STILL GRAVEL, AND IT'S NOT THE MOST ENTICING PLAZA IN THE WORLD. YEAH, IT WAS LIKE GROUND UP. IT'S ASPHALT. IT'S NOT VERY PAVED, BY THE WAY. IT'S NOT REALLY PLEASANT, YOU KNOW, WE RECYCLE. WE TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING THE AREA OVER BY THE CONCESSION STANDS BECAUSE IT'S HALF DIRT AND HALF STUFF WITH NO PICNIC TABLES AND NO SHADE, AND IT'S NOT VERY INVITING. AND I BROUGHT THAT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I KEEP TELLING I KEEP GETTING SAID, OH, WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE RODEO ARENA. OH, WE

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WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO GO OUTSIDE THE BOX AND SAY, WELL THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THAT ARENA OVER THERE AND WE USE IT SIX NIGHTS A WEEK OR SIX NIGHTS A YEAR, AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. YOU GOT TO INCREASE THE USE OF THE SPACE. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK. CORBIN AND THE STAFF TO NOT EXPEND A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY, BUT TO BRING BACK A FEW FIGURES OF WHAT, HOW WE COULD INVEST TO IMPROVE THE RODEO GROUNDS. MAYBE THAT'S SEATING, MAYBE THAT'S WORKING ON GETTING MORE SOLID SURFACES FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON.

MAYBE THAT'S A BATHROOM THAT COSTS AS MUCH AS A HOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'D LIKE THEM TO BRING THAT WITHOUT WITHOUT GOING OUT TO HAVE SOMEONE DRAW UP ALL THESE PLANS, BUT JUST LIKE THEM TO GET US A FEW NUMBERS. AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO START INVESTING IN THERE WITH THE END GAME OF THAT, THEN WE CAN USE IT FOR MORE THINGS THAN JUST THE RODEO. A FEW THINGS.

YEAH, WELL, THAT'S THE THING. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, IS THAT I'M. I'M NOT WILLING TO GO INVEST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MANY OF YOU, SIX TIMES A YEAR. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT IF I SAY WE INVEST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND IT'S GOING TO BE USED EVERY NIGHT OR EVERY WEEKEND OR 20 TIMES A YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO PRODUCE THIS KIND OF ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE CITY, AND WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR IT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. THEN IT MAKES MORE SENSE. RIGHT? BUT IF IT'S LIKE, WELL, THE RODEO EXPERIENCE FOR THE 4TH OF JULY IS POOR, YET WE STILL SELL OUT EVERY NIGHT. HOW MUCH AM I WILLING TO SPEND TO MAKE IT LESS POOR FOR THREE NIGHTS OF RODEO, PLUS A COUPLE OTHER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? I MEAN, OH, DO WE WANT TO TRY TO SPEND MONEY OUT OF THIS BUDGET, OR DO WE WANT TO ASK STAFF TO BRING US STUFF BACK? I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO INCREASE THE USE OF THE FACILITY SIX FOLD OR THREE FOLD, OR SOME LIKE TO REALLY EXPAND THE USE OF THE FACILITY. WHAT WAS THE MINIMUM? IT HAS TO BE DONE. AND THEN ONCE THE USE OF THE FACILITY HAS BEEN EXPANDED, WE CAN JUSTIFY CONTINUING FUNDS GOING DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY, SO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO INCREASE THE USE OF THAT FACILITY? YOU KNOW, LIKE LIKE HAVING CEMENT THAT WE CAN PUT WATER IN THERE AND HAVE IT FROZEN DURING THE WINTER. PEOPLE JUST GO SKATE THERE OR SOMETHING. IS THAT. THERE? YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT EVENTS COULD GO IN THERE. BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE TALK ABOUT CONCERTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF CONCERTS YEAR ROUND CONCERTS AND THERE WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS NOT COMING IN NOVEMBER. YEAH, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, BUT EVEN. YEAH. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DO GET COMPLAINTS. YEAH. THE NOISE.

YEAH. NO I GET I, I LIVE CLOSE BUT NOT SUPER CLOSE. BUT I HEAR EVERY WORD THAT IS ANNOUNCED DURING THE RODEO FROM MY HOUSE. I CAN HEAR THE PA. YEAH. SO FROM THE RODEO. SO THERE'S. SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE GOT TO DO. IT'S AN AREA THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST MULTI-USE THING. AND IF IT ISN'T, MAYBE WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE RODEO GROUNDS. COULD IT BE MADE AN INDOOR FACILITY OR WOULD THAT RUIN IT? YEAH, THAT'D BE EXPENSIVE. IF YOU WANT A DOWNTOWN AND YOU WANT A REC CENTER. AND THAT'S MY POINT TOO, IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING. WE HAVE TO. IT'S AN ASSET THAT COULD BE REALLY GREAT. BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE AND AT THE EXPENSE OF WHAT ELSE? WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY COST? I MEAN, IT OVER THERE, RIGHT. THAT COULD BE INVESTED. ALRIGHT. WHAT ELSE? A COUPLE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. TOP OF MY LIST IS DENISE HAS GOT TO HAVE BUDGET. YEAH, I KNOW, I WAS WONDERING WHEN WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER THIS YEAR. DENISE HAS GOT TO HAVE BUDGETING SOFTWARE BECAUSE IT LEVERAGES OR OTHERWISE. I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW WHEN I'VE SEEN TEXTS FROM DENISE AT 10 OR 11:00 AT SHE TEXTED ME NOT TOO LONG AGO AND SHE GOES, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU, BUT I GOT INVOLVED IN SOME OTHER STUFF AND I'M WORKING ON SOME OTHER STUFF, BUT I AND IT WAS 1030 AT

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AND THAT IS THE THEY, THEY, THEY BUY THE RAIN BARRELS FROM THE SCOUTS. AND THE SCOUTS USE THE RAIN BARRELS FOR MONEY. WAS THAT YOURS? DO YOU WANT TO SEE ALL MY EMAILS BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR MAYOR ABOUT THAT? ACTUALLY IN THAT PROGRAM THIS YEAR. WHAT'S THAT? WE'RE IN THAT PROGRAM THIS YEAR. WE WERE PART OF THE PR CAMPAIGN THAT THEY DID FOR MAYOR AND I. SO I WAS SAYING, HOW COME I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT WE'RE SELLING, THAT WE'RE SELLING RAIN BARRELS AT $57 A PIECE. WHEN YOU TELL YOUR THREE WAS IN THERE, SHE COULD TELL YOU, BUT WE ARE WE ARE PART OF THAT PROGRAM. THAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON THE GREAT SALT LAKE AND NOT WATER NOT REACHING THE END GOAL THERE THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR WE'RE BEING CONSERVATIVE. WE SAID WE'LL PAY FOR UP TO 100 RAIN BARRELS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY WILL ACTUALLY SELL. WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN. THAT'S NOT A BIT. WE DON'T TELL ANYBODY. PROBABLY NOT MANY OF THEM, BUT WE ARE PARTICIPATING. EVEN ASK IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING HERE AT THE CITY. WHEN THE PEOPLE CAME. I'VE SEEN ALL THE CITIES HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN. I'VE SEEN ALL THE CITIES PUT STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ADVERTISING IT. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING FROM US. SO I WILL TALK, WITH YOU. I WILL TALK WITH LORI TO ANSWER YOUR. MINUSCULE, BECAUSE IT JUST GOES INTO THE GROUND, AND THAT GROUND DOESN'T LOOK GREAT, BUT THE ONLY THING THE WATER BARREL DOES IS IT CATCHES THE WATER THAT RUNS OFF YOUR HOUSE ANYWAY. SO THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE WATER FROM THE RAIN BARREL, THEY'RE JUST STORING IT FOR ANOTHER DAY. YEAH. SO THE WATER, THE WATER IS GOING TO RUN INTO THE GROUND WATER NO MATTER WHAT BENEFITS THE STORMWATER COULD TAKE THE BARRELS TO THE STORES. AND IT COULD AND IT COULD HELP WITH STORMWATER. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD 1000 WATER BARRELS FLOATING AROUND THE CITY, ALL OF A SUDDEN. YEAH, LITERALLY, IF YOU HAVE YOU HAVE 1000, IF YOU HAVE 1000 WATER BARRELS, THAT'S 55,000 GALLONS AT ONE ONCE. AND IF THEY COULD BE REFILLED 3 OR 4 TIMES, WE'RE SAVING 200,000, 300,000 OR MORE GALLONS OF WATER THAT PEOPLE ARE RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST GOING ONTO THEIR SIDEWALK AND IN THE STORM DRAIN OR RUNNING INTO THEIR GARDEN THAT THEY COULD USE. AND DOES THAT SAVE THAT 2 OR 300,000 GALLONS OF WATER ACROSS THE CITY? AND THAT'S A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THE LITTLE PIECES AND ADD IT UP, IT'S A GOOD CHUNK OF WATER, RIGHT? LET ME ASK THIS TO THEM. WHAT ABOUT MOSQUITOES? AND MOSQUITOES? THEY BITE THE WATER AND MOSQUITOES ARE THE THEY'RE GOING TO FIND THAT WATER AND THEY'RE. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AS BIG OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE THAT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM. IT'S NOT AN OPEN LOT. CAN THEY BE IN THERE AND BREED? YES. BUT

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YOU'VE HEARD MY RANT FOR THE NIGHT. SO THANK YOU. HAVE A BRIDGE THERE SOON, RIGHT, CORBIN. OH, THAT'S PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER 70TH SOUTH BY HARTMAN ELEMENTARY IS PLANNING TO BE INSTALLED. IT WILL START THIS. IT'LL START THIS YEAR. OKAY. THE BRIDGE IS. GETTING THE BRIDGE BUILT. WE HAVE A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO GET HARDER, NOT EASIER. WE HAVE A PLAN. WE'RE.

WE HAVE SOME PLANS FOR WORKING OUT THE ESTHETICS OF THE REST OF THAT AREA, NORMANDY ESTATES. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF OUR PLANS WILL WORK. REALISTICALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS SOMEWHAT HAS SOME COST RECOVERY AND MINIMIZE THE CITY MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS LONG TERM, BUT TO REALLY IMPROVE THE ESTHETICS ON THAT PARTICULAR STRETCH OF 70 ITSELF, HOW GREAT CONTRACTS BEEN AWARDED. SO IT'S THERE OKAY. YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO DOVETAIL ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE CITY ESTHETICS AND SOME CITY PROPERTY. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAILS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, AND THEY GENERALLY ARE ALL, YOU CAN'T RIDE A BIKE ON THEM IN THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST COVERED IN GOAT HEADS. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE COVERED IN GOAT HEADS. BUT YOUR CHANCES OF A FLAT TIRE. YEAH, CASE. YEAH. AND I RIDE WITH TIRE LINERS IN MY BIKE TIRES. AND I STILL GOT TO GO PICK. GIVE ME A FLAT TIRE. I HAD A RESIDENT COME INTO OUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING AND SPEAK ABOUT THAT. THAT. SO I'M TALKING NOT JUST MAINTAINING AS FAR AS KILLING WEEDS SO THAT THERE'S NOT COAT HEADS, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT UNIFYING. WE HAVE SOME OF THEM THAT WE'VE MADE DEVELOPERS INSTALL. AND AS PART OF THAT, SOME OF THEM, ESPECIALLY THE HIGHLANDS, ARE PRETTY, ARE NICE. THEY'VE GOT GRASS, THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ROCKS IN THE STREAM BED WHERE IF THERE WAS EVER WATER, IT WOULD. AND I HAVE SEEN WATER A COUPLE TIMES IN BIG STORMS, BUT WE'VE GOT MOST OF THEM THAT JUST RUN THROUGH NATIVE VEGETATION AND IT'S JUST UGLY. I KNOW THE EAST SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF U111 FROM 78 TO ACTUALLY NORTH OF 78. NOW WITH WEST GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 8600 SOUTH PROBABLY. FOR WEEDS. TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL JUST ON THE WEST SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, THERE'S THE TRAILS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SOUTH END OF THE MAPLES. IT JUST GOES THROUGH A WEED PATCHES. THERE'S THE ONES BY HAYDEN PEAK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THERE'S. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. I WOULD SUGGEST I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PARKS BOND FOR THIS COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS TO LANDSCAPE THAT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GRASS OR IT NOT BE GRASS. THAT'S WATER WISE. PRETTY LANDSCAPING. YOU CAN HAVE TURF IN IT, BUT NOT JUST GRASS, RIGHT? BUT SOMETHING TO MAKE IT PRETTIER. AND THEN TO ALSO MAKE THE TRAILS MORE USEFUL, ESPECIALLY FOR PNEUMATIC TIRES. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW TRADE. AND WE DIDN'T. I'M GOING TO SAY WE DIDN'T REQUIRE THE

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AND DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE'S GOT THAT WHOLE RESEEDING PROGRAM THAT THEY PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT. AND THE ONES AROUND HAYDEN PEAK, THERE'S THE ONES SOUTH OF ANTELOPE CANYON THAT RUNS FROM 64TH OVER TO ROCKWOOD PARK. THERE'S TRAILS OUT THERE EVERYWHERE, AND THEY'RE GREAT TRAILS. I LOVE TO RUN ON THEM, BUT I WILL NOT TAKE A BIKE. AND I'M FINE RIDING ON THE ROAD. BUT PARENTS, KIDS, LITTLE KIDS, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THE TRAILS. AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD RATHER RIDE ON THE ROAD, IS BECAUSE I WANT TO RUN OVER THOSE LITTLE KIDS. BUT SO DO WE WANT DO WE WANT TO ASK STAFF TO GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD COST AND WHAT A BOND WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND THEN COME BACK AND ASK IF WE HAVE MORE? OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST SEE IF THERE'S MORE THAT ARE WILLING? I WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR COMMENT. I THINK THE PROCESS AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCESS IS. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE CAN HELP FIGURE THAT OUT. WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IS, IS IF WE COULD MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO IF WE SAY THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY, WE WANT TO TACKLE THIS AS A WAY TO IMPROVE MY SITE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE WEST SIDE. THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE TRAILS.

THEN WE SAY, HOW MUCH WOULD IT TAKE TO DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SLIDING SCALE, RIGHT? WE ALLOCATED 500,000 A YEAR. WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THIS MUCH. IF WE ALLOCATED 2 MILLION A YEAR, WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT MUCH. AND WHAT DOES THE BOND LOOK LIKE THEN? IN THAT CASE, COULD WE DO A LOT AT ONCE IF WE DID A $10 MILLION BOND OR A $5 MILLION BOND? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS. RIGHT. SO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FROM PARKS OR FROM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY, CORBIN AND BRIAN AND DENISE GET IN A ROOM AND I'M SURE THEY COME BACK WITH SOME IDEAS OF WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, AND THEN WE CAN SAY, YES, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR THAT'S A BAD IDEA. SO ARE THERE FOUR OF US THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK INFORMATION ON WORKING? I WOULD SAY BOTH ON TRAILS AND ON CITY PROPERTIES. WHAT WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE FINANCIALLY. YEAH. OKAY. YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT FIVE PEOPLE, ALAN. OKAY. SO, CORBIN, IF WE COULD GET AN IDEA AND THAT WAY WE CAN, BECAUSE IF ALL WE EVER DO IN THIS MEETING IS SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT OUR DREAMS, IF WE DON'T ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK ANYTHING AND THEY GIVE DIRECTION, NOTHING IS GOING TO EVER HAPPEN. SO, OKAY, WHAT ELSE? I HAD SOME GOOD MEETINGS WITH THE MAYOR OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT. WE'VE ALSO GOT OTHERS THAT, WELL, THE PROPERTY. CAME OUT THERE WITH THE MAYOR AND I MET OUT AT THAT. WELL PROPERTY AT 78TH AND BACKUS. AND WE WALKED AROUND IT AND SAW THAT'S OUR ZONE FOR PUMP STATION VILLAGES. YEAH. THERE WERE THE PILES OF ASPHALT. RECYCLED ASPHALT AND STUFF. AND IT WAS JUST IT LOOKED LIKE A DUMPING GROUND. AND PEOPLE DRIVE BY IT AND SAID, LOOK, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE TRAILS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ARE TRAILS. SOME OF THE TRAILS THERE. YEAH. RECYCLED ASPHALT. IT'S NOT A NO. THEY WERE PUTTING IT THERE, TAKING IT OUT AND PUTTING. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ARTS PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ACCELERATED. I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING FINALLY, FINALLY MOVING. YEAH, A LITTLE BIT ON IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE FUNDING IN IT. I MEAN, WE'LL KNOW RIGHT SHORTLY.

WE'RE GETTING WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR ARTISTS TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. HOW'S IT GOING? SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK, REALLY NO ONE HAD SUBMITTED. A DOZEN PEOPLE HAVE IT HOLD IT, BUT NONE SUBMITTED. I'VE LOOKED AT IT ON APRIL 1ST. THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR PATIENTS WHO COME IN AT THE LAST TWO DAYS. LAST DAYS I DID HAVE AN ARTIST THAT I HAD ASKED THE ARTIST WHO DID THE OUTDOOR, DID A ONE OF THE UNDERPASSES, CULVERTS, DID A MURAL ON IT. I REACHED OUT TO THAT ARTIST ON FACEBOOK SIX, EIGHT MONTHS AGO AND ASKED HIM HOW MUCH IT COST AND HOW MUCH THEY PAY HIM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. HE ONLY DID 3 OR $5000 WAS NOT ONLINE. HE TEXTED ME LIKE LAST WEEK AND SAID, HEY, WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS? AND I SAID, WELL, THE CITY'S ACTUALLY GOT A CALL FOR ARTISTS OUT HERE. HERE'S THE LINK. AND HE SAID, WHAT THE CRAP IS THAT? SO? SO IT'S GOING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PAGE ON THE WEBSITE. LIKE IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO AN RFP FOR REDOING REDWOOD ROAD. YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY WHATEVER. SO ARTISTS

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BUT SEPARATE FROM THAT, IF WE DUMPED A LITTLE MORE FIRE, A LITTLE MORE GASOLINE ON THAT FIRE, LIKE TO ERIC PROGRAM, OBVIOUSLY, CITY CENTER ALREADY COVERED. YEAH, AND I WOULD I'D JUST LIKE TO SECOND THE IDEA OF A SOME SORT OF TREE HOLIDAY THING IN THE PARK. MAKE IT A BIG DEAL. IT SOUNDS JORDAN MADE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THEIR TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY, AND THEY DO IT IN FRONT OF THEIR CITY HALL, THAT TINY STREET. THERE'S NO PARK. THERE'S NOTHING. THERE'S NO REASON TO GO THERE EXCEPT FOR, LIKE, THE TEN LITTLE SHOPS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE AND HARMONIES AND SEE THE TREE. BUT WE'VE GOT A PARK THAT. HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF I WAS IN A PLACE TO COME TAKE PICTURES AND SAY, DID YOU SEE THAT COOL CHRISTMAS TREE IN WEST JORDAN PARK? HOLY COW, HOLIDAY TREES UPC. WHERE'S THE CHRISTMAS IN THIS COUNTRY? NOW? EVERYBODY'S SAYING IT, I PROMISE. ANYWAY, MERRY CHRISTMAS, MERRY CHRISTMAS GREETING. SO ANYWAY, BIG TREE IN THE PARK WITH BIG LIGHTING CEREMONY WON'T COST A LOT OF MONEY. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. JUST HAVE TO PAY. A BIG PINE TREE.

ROCKEFELLER CENTER, GET SOME, YOU KNOW, FOREST OWNER TO DONATE A BIG OLD TREE OR SOMETHING. AND YEAH, ROCKEFELLER CENTER GETS A BIG CHRISTMAS TREE EVERY YEAR. AND SOME WE PROBABLY HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET RID OF PINE. SO WE HAVE SO DOES THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE TO BE A REAL TREE. YOU COULD DO SOMETHING COOL WITH LIKE A GREAT BIG LONG FOLIAGE, WHITES AND SOME WIRES AND LIGHTS THAT COME DOWN OFF EVERYTHING ELSE? ABSOLUTELY. SO DO WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT A CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION IN OUR VETERANS MARKET? THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH. TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY. I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, IS WE'RE DOING FIRST FRIDAY AND SOME OF THE, SOME OF IT'S GETTING LOST IN FIRST FRIDAY. AND SO I LIKE FIRST FRIDAY AND I LIKE WHAT WE DO. BUT FOR, FOR CHRISTMAS I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING BIGGER EXPENSE THE FUNDS FOR A HOLIDAY THING IN THE PARK. YES. AND CAN I ASK ABOUT I SEE I SEE FOUR MORE HANDS. SO I WANT TO ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM. DAVID, WHAT IS DRAPER SPEND ON THE TREE OF LIFE AREA THAT PARK LIGHTING IT UP EACH YEAR? PROBABLY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY AROUND 50 TO 60 GRAND. IT IS.

WHY DOES MURRAY SPEND ON THE ON MURRAY? PROBABLY MORE THAN THAN THAT IN DRAPER. NOW SAY IT WAS THAT WHEN I WAS THERE THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO. PROBABLY CLOSE TO 100 BY NOW. MURRAY MURRAY HAS A NEW CHRISTMAS DISPLAY IN FRONT OF THEIR CITY HALL. THEY DO. THEY'RE AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING. ARE YOU ARE YOU WILLING TO DO IT FOR 100? ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT 100 GRAND A YEAR TO WHAT ARE WE ALREADY DOING FOR THIS EVENT? WE ALREADY WE HAVE THE I COME DOWN HERE AND DRESSED UP AS SANTA CLAUS AND YEAH, WE'RE DOING IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST 10,000. RIGHT. YEAH. WE'RE DOING A FRACTION OF THAT. WE'RE DOING IT BETWEEN OUR CITY HALL AND OUR CHRISTMAS EVENT. WE'LL PROBABLY DOING 20 20,000. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM 20 TO 50 OR 20 TO 60 OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. FROM 0 TO 100 20 TO 120. BECAUSE WHAT I'M NOT HEARING IS DON'T STOP WITH THE WHAT WE'RE DECORATING AT CITY HALL. BUT IN ADDITION TO, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING INVITING AND SOMETHING PEOPLE GOING TO WANT TO DO. I MEAN, PART OF THE PROPOSAL I WAS GOING TO PUT TOGETHER WAS EVEN AND I'VE DONE IT IN OTHER CITIES. I'VE DONE AN IMPROVISED CHRISTMAS CAROL, WHICH IS THIS, THIS GREAT, EASY TO PUT ON PLAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY BUDGET THAT GOES INTO IT. IT'S JUST KIND OF A FUN THING THAT'S THROWN TOGETHER, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHAT THROWN TOGETHER, AND THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE PARK AND, YOU KNOW, FUN AND JUST DUMB THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT AND JUST SEEING. WE ARE. SO WE ARE GETTING AN AMPHITHEATER, AREN'T WE, AT SOME POINT. BUT I'M SAYING EVEN BEFORE THAT YOU COULD PUT A AND THE ANSWER IS WE NEED TO UP THE EVENT'S BUDGET. AND WE THEN LET'S LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT WHAT WE DID, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE FOR THE EASTER EGG? THAT WAS ONE OF THE SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE KIDS REALLY YOUNG DURING THAT TIME. WHEN I WENT TO THE ONE LAST YEAR, IT WAS JUST HUGE, MASSIVE, AND IT'S LIKE 2 OR 3000. WHAT IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALMOST ONCE A QUARTER IN OUR CITY? FOR SOME REASON THAT JUST KEEPS

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YEAH. YEAH THAT'S TRUE THERE. BUT I MEAN HOW GREAT WOULD THAT BE TO DRIVE DOWN REDWOOD ROAD AND SEE THAT PLACE LIT UP INSTEAD OF BEING THAT WAY. YEAH. RIGHT ON REDWOOD ROAD. THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE. SO CHAIR, MAY I JUST SUMMARIZE A COUPLE THINGS? NO.

KEEP GOING. NO CAN. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON OKAY. JUST I'VE WRITTEN ALL OF THESE DOWN. EVERYTHING IDENTITY COMMUNICATIONS VIDEO PROS. THE. BRIDGE AT 78TH FOOD TRUCKS, RODEO GROUNDS, BUDGET SOFTWARE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND AS YOU DISCUSS THE BUDGET STARTING IN MAY, THERE'S THINGS HERE THAT I THINK ARE ONE TIME AND ONGOING. SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF THOSE.

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

[02:10:01]

FOUR. THAT'S ALL I NEED. WOW. OF COURSE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A ONE TIME EXPENSE. YES. IT'S A ONE TIME A ONE TIME. IT ALSO BRINGS IT. YEAH. EXACTLY. AND IT'S. RIGHT. EXACTLY. AND IF WE SEND A SERVICE THAT MAKES US LOOK GOOD AND THAT'S. AND IF WE SIGN UP LIKE SALT LAKE CITY DOES WITH THE OTHER COMPANY LIKE FIELD PRINT AND WE TAKE THEIR, THEN WE CAN TAKE FINGERPRINTS FOR ALMOST EVERY FEDERAL AGENCY THAT DOES A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION. AND SO IT WOULD BE FOSTER PARENTS. IT WOULD BE HUGE. SO YES I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SOLD ON THAT ONE OKAY. FINGERPRINT MACHINES AREN'T THAT EXPENSIVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. LEE, THAT YOU HAVE FOR US THAT WE COULD GIVE FURTHER MATERIAL? SOME OF THESE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH WILL COME TO YOU MAY 6TH. A FEW OF THESE ITEMS ARE IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED AND THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BASE BUDGET, BUT WILL BE AND THESE ARE THINGS THE MAYOR SUPPORTS. COUNCIL, IF YOU SUPPORT THEM, TOO. AND ADAM, HERE'S THE COST. WE'RE ANTICIPATING SOME DISCUSSION LIKE THAT WITH YOU THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET SEASON, WHICH WILL LIKELY INCLUDE A LOT OF THESE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. WE'VE GOT AN EXCITING COUPLE OF MONTHS, 11 AND THEN JUST FOR THOSE AT THE TABLE, THOSE THAT ARE MISSING AT THE TABLE, I KNEW THEY DID THIS, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL THE RADIO STATION I WAS LISTENING TO. AND I THINK IT'S SUCH A GOOD THING THAT THEY DO AT OUR AT OUR STATE LEVEL IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH IS THEY COUNCIL MEMBER JACOB, FROM THE TIME I JOINED THE COUNCIL, HAS ALWAYS SAID WE SHOULD DO A BUDGET. GO BACK AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, START FROM SCRATCH BY USING THE WRONG TERM, 00000 BASE, ZERO BASED BUDGET. AND APPARENTLY THAT'S WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES. ONLY THEY DO LIKE ONE ONE AREA AT A TIME. AND SO EVERY FIVE YEARS THE STATE BUDGET IS GONE TO ZERO BASED BUDGETING. I WOULD SAY THAT WOULDN'T BE A BAD THING FOR OUR CITY TO CONSIDER, FOR US TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF AN IN DEPTH ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE BUDGET JUST TO SEE IF WE'RE STILL LIKE SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE SAID WE WANTED THIS. WELL, IS THAT STILL WHERE WE WANT MONEY ALLOCATED? BECAUSE WE COME UP WITH ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE WANT? AND I KNOW EXACTLY I KNOW, I KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WE DON'T SAY, WELL, BUT WE WANT THIS AND WE'RE OKAY. SACRIFICE THIS. RIGHT. IT'S LIKE IN OUR OWN BUDGETS WE HAVE TO DO THAT, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO REMODEL MY BATHROOM. DON'T GO THERE. DON'T GO THERE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ALL NEW. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE PRICES, I CAN'T. RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO. MAYBE I KEEP MY OLD TUB AND SHOWER SO THAT I GET THE VANITY I REALLY WANT, OR VICE VERSA. WHATEVER. BUT YOUR WIFE DECIDES TO REMODEL THE DOWNSTAIRS BASEMENT AND THEN SHE SAYS, OH, BY THE WAY, THE ONE FROM HOME DEPOT DIDN'T FIT. SO YOU GOT TO ORDER THIS ONE FROM AMAZON FOR THE SHOWER, AND IT'S $740, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T ALL HAVE KEVIN KELVIN FOR IT IN THIS CITY. SO WE HAVE TO I JUST I JUST WANT TO ADD TO BALANCE. RIGHT. WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE IT OUT THAT YES, WE WANT TO DO THESE THINGS. AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO INVEST IN THE RODEO STAND. AND THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE PART IS JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE TO THINK, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE UP IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GIVE UP? MAYBE WHAT WE GIVE UP IS OUR TAX LINE AND IT GROWS HIGHER. MAYBE WHAT WE GIVE UP IS SOME OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?

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IF YOUR PLANS HAVE CHANGED AND YOU HAVEN'T CONTACTED YET, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DO THAT.

YES, IT IS RIGHT UP ON IT. IT IS. IT'S WEDNESDAY. CHECK IN THURSDAY MORNING. THEY BEGIN FRIDAY AT NOON. NOONISH. AND SO SATURDAY IS THE EASTER AND SATURDAY IS THE EASTER EGG HUNT

[a. Discussion and selection of a Council Member to serve on the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Committee]

ONE OF YOU THEY WOULD BE MEETING IN MAY. THEY WILL HAVE PROBABLY THREE MEETINGS. I DON'T HAVE THE TIME YET AND WE CAN WORK AROUND SCHEDULES. I'LL SHARE MY OPINION. HASN'T BEEN ON CDBG JUST IN MY OPINION. I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE EITHER SOMEBODY FROM MR. OR TWO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE AREAS WHERE MOST REDEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE IN THE CITY. OKAY, LET ME LET ME EXPLAIN MY EXPERIENCE ON THIS COMMITTEE. AND MAYBE IT RUNS DIFFERENTLY NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN CHARGE. BUT WE WENT TO THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NON-PROFITS WOULD COME AND PRESENT TO US LIKE THERE WAS A NEW ONE THE YEAR THAT I WAS ON, AND THEY DID VISION CARE FOR THE ELDERLY. THERE'S THE ROAD HOME SHELTER, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THAT YOU'RE USED TO HEARING FROM, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME UNIQUE ONES. AND SO WE SAT FOR A COUPLE OF THE MEETINGS AND JUST LISTENED TO THEM. AND THEN WE HAD A MEETING WHERE WE DISCUSSED, OKAY, WE GAVE 3000 OF THESE GUYS LAST YEAR AND 10,000 OF THESE GUYS, AND YOU WANT TO DO THAT. SO IT'S MORE THAT'S MORE HOW THE MEETING IS, IS THAT'S STILL HOW IT IS. SO THAT'S MORE WHAT IT IS. SO I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS WHAT DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN, BECAUSE IT IS MORE A CITYWIDE THING. OKAY. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR SOMEONE THAT HASN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. SO I'VE ALREADY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

YOU'VE DONE IT. ARE EITHER OF YOU INTERESTED AND CAN DO IT BECAUSE THESE MEETINGS ARE DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS. SO LATE AFTERNOON? I'D BE WILLING TO DO IT FOR YOU AND MR. BRISCOE. HOPEFULLY I CAN CHANGE UP MY WORK SITUATION BY THE TIME YOU AND I CAN SWAP OUT. I'LL TAKE THE NEXT ONE. CAN'T DO IT. ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT? IT'S A ONE YEAR, THREE MEETINGS. OH, WE'LL PICK ANOTHER ONE IN JANUARY. WE'LL GET THE SYSTEM. SO IT'S THREE MEETINGS. AND THEN WHAT? WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING IS REALLY COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE APPROVE IN THE BUDGET, THE EXPENDITURES OF THE CDBG TO THOSE PEOPLE. THAT COMMITTEE GIVES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. YES. SO YOUR MAYOR'S BUDGET IS GOING TO HAVE NOTHING FOR CDBG, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR FUNDING IS. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING YET. SO THIS COMMITTEE WILL SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR FUNDING WILL BE, AND WE CHOOSE HOW WE CHOOSE TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDING. HOW HUD'S PROBABLY IN AN UPDATE. SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO DO THE FIRST ONE. THEN I'LL DO IT IN JANUARY OR WHATEVER NEXT WEEK. SURE. SOUNDS GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH KENT DOING IT? TELL ME NOW. OKAY. WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH KENT, SO KENT WILL BE OUR PERSON LIKE YOU. JERRY, YOU'RE GOING TO SOMEBODY THAT NOBODY WANTS THAT EVERYBODY SAYS YES, THEY CAN DO IT. YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK IT'S A REALLY NEAT EXPERIENCE. YEAH.

NO, IT SOUNDS COOL. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.