Apr 15, 2025 Planning Commission

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BUT THE WHOLE THING IS THAT IF IT'S A FAIR PROCESS AND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, THEN IT'S

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AND THE WAY OUR, OUR CODE WAS SET UP IN THE CITY OF PERRY WAS THAT THE RULES WERE THAT THEY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HAD TO DENY HER APPLICATION BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE OF THE, OF THE CODE. AND EVEN THOUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE GRANTED HER APPLICATION AND THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA, AND BUT THEY WALKED THROUGH THE STEPS AND THEY THEY HELPED HER, YOU KNOW, GO THEY WENT THROUGH THE FACTS AND THEY SHOWED HER WHAT THE LAW SAID. AND AT THE END, WHEN THEY DENIED HER APPLICATION, SHE TURNED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID, I REALIZED THAT THE REASON YOU DENIED MY APPLICATION WAS NOT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LIKE ME, OR YOU DIDN'T LIKE MY COOKIES, OR YOU DIDN'T LIKE WHATEVER, BUT IN FACT, THEY WERE REALLY TASTY COOKIES BECAUSE WE ALL ATE ONE. BUT IT WAS BECAUSE THE LAW SIMPLY STATED THAT THAT THOSE WERE THE FACTS. AND APPLYING THE FACTS TO THE CODE, THEY COULDN'T GRANT IT. AND SO. AND WHAT MADE IT ESPECIALLY GOOD IS BRANT BATEMAN, THE OMBUDSMAN AT THE TIME, WHO I BROUGHT IN TO DO SOME TRAINING INSTEAD OF DOING IT MYSELF. AND HE SAW THAT HAPPEN AND HE GAVE US REALLY GOOD KUDOS AND SAID, WE DID A GREAT JOB AND WHICH I THOUGHT WAS COOL. BUT THE POINT OF THE STORY IS, IS THAT WE DO HARD THINGS SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT GRANT STUFF THAT YOU'D RATHER NOT GRANT. YOU MIGHT DENY STUFF YOU'D RATHER NOT DENY, BUT YOU KNOW THAT IT'S YOUR DUTY BASED UPON THE FACTS AND THE LAW TO DO SO. IF THAT HAPPENS CONSISTENTLY, WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING, RIGHT? AND SOMETIMES DOING THE RIGHT THING IS TOUGH, RIGHT? SO ANYWAY, IT'S FUNNY WHEN I GET TALKING ABOUT SOMETIMES COOKIES APPARENTLY TONIGHT, BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

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[GENERAL MEETING 6:00 p.m.]

WE WILL EXCUSE COMMISSIONERS HOLLINGSWORTH AND GONZALES, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COMMISSIONERS. PLEASE RISE AND REPEAT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. DUNCAN. OKAY, FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS CONSENT CALENDAR FOR APPROVAL OF THE

[1. Approve Minutes from April 1, 2025]

COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. OKAY. NEXT IS PUBLIC HEARING WITH FINAL ACTION BY THE

[2. Kinder Construction; 5782 West Feulner Park Circle; Conditional Use Permit for Outdoor Storage and Operations in a Drinking Water Source Protection Zone; M-1 Zone; Kinder Construction/Jim Kinder (applicant) [Megan Jensen #34333; parcel 26-11-226-007]]

SOURCE PROTECTION ZONE IS AN M ONE ZONE. KINDER CONSTRUCTION. JIM KINDER IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BASICALLY WHAT MEGAN WAS DESCRIBING TO YOU EARLIER ON IT.

THIS THING WEIGHS ON IT. THERE WAS ONE ISSUE THERE THAT SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT THE SAND AND STUFF ON IT, BUT I DON'T USE THAT SNOW WITH SAND. IT'S THE SAND I USE IS ALL 8 MILLIMETER TO 4 MILLIMETER SAND, BASICALLY. YOU KNOW, BEDDING AROUND PIPES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO ON TO OTHER THAN THAT, PRETTY MUCH WITH WHAT SHE, WHAT THE STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER ON IT. SO WHAT IS YOUR

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DON'T. THE GOOD THING IS, IS THE VALUES UP THERE. SO AND I THINK IT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT THEN.

SO BUT ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YES.

THANK YOU. SO IN THIS PICTURE IT DOES APPEAR TO SHOW SOME VEHICLE STORAGE. BUT I'M SURE THIS IS AN OLD PICTURE. SO ARE YOU DOING ANY VEHICLE STORAGE RIGHT NOW. YEAH I AM I'VE BEEN USING IT FOR 25 YEARS OKAY. SO DO YOU AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU CAN'T DO VEHICLE STORAGE UNTIL YOU PAVE IT? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S A CATCH 22 ON IT. ALL I'M DOING IS I'M JUST WAITING FOR YOU GUYS TO SAY, WELL, OKAY, YOU GOT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. I'LL PUT THE ASPHALT IN, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH PUTTING THE ASPHALT IN IT. AND THEN YOU GUYS SAY, WELL, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT UNTIL YOU PUT A BUILDING UP. OR, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU CAN'T PUT THE ASPHALT IN UNTIL YOU GET THE BUILDING SITE PLAN FIGURED OUT. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. THEY COULD PASS IT DOWN FIRST TO HAVE THEIR STORAGE AND THEN BE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THEIR SITE PLAN. THEY CAN PUT THE ASPHALT DOWN WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO GET THEIR BUILDING SITE PLAN FIGURED OUT. YEAH, OKAY. YEAH.

THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S THE CURRENT CONCERN IS ANYTHING THAT COULD LEAK DOWN FROM A VEHICLE. SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE GETTING THE ASPHALT PAVED IN THERE BEFORE YOU DO VEHICLE STORAGE, THEN THAT RESOLVES MY CONCERN. YEAH, IT IS. AND I'M THE TYPE OF GUY IS JUST MY EQUIPMENT IS LEAKING.

I FIX IT, YOU KNOW, $25 A GALLON. YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO RUN IT FOREVER. BESIDES, IF YOU TAKE IT OUT ON A JOB SITE OUT THERE, THEN THEY'RE COMPLAINING THAT YOU'RE CONTAMINATING THE DIRT, THAT THE JOB SITE YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. SO ANYWAY, SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. MEGAN. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE SITE CURRENTLY IT'S VACANT AND THEY HAVE LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'VE BEEN DOING STORAGE ON THERE. SO IT'S BECOME A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. SO AND LIKE I SAID USUALLY THESE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE. BUT SINCE IT'S IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE IT'S WHERE WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE GROUNDWATER. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. SO LIKE DISCUSSED THEY'LL HAVE A BUILDING IN THE FUTURE AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT THAT TIME. THERE'S CURRENTLY A FENCE UP THAT MEETS SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. AND ALL THE STORAGE WILL HAPPEN IN THAT AREA. THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND MOST OF IT WILL BE A GRAVEL AREA FOR OPEN STORAGE. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A PAVED ASPHALT PARKING AREA FOR EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE ARE JUST PICTURES OF THE EXISTING FENCE. AND THEN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE JUST THAT. THEY NEED TO PARK ALL VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT ON THAT PAVED AREA, AND THEN ANY LOOSE MATERIALS WOULD NEED TO BE MITIGATED FOR ANYTHING THAT COULD BLOW ONTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, COMMISSIONER HATCH? THANK YOU.

JUST A QUESTION ON THE OVERLAY ZONE. DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE OF HOW HOW WHERE HIS PROPERTY SITS IN REGARDS TO THAT ZONE? HOW MUCH OF IT IS IN IT OR NOT? YEAH. SO THIS IS KIND OF A

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BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND OPERATIONS LOCATED AT 5782 WEST FULLER PARK CIRCLE IN AN M1 ZONE AND DRINKING WATER SOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE. SUBJECT TO ALL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER HATCH, I HAVE TO SECOND THAT ONE BREATH STATEMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. OKAY. NEXT IS 111, PRELIMINARY PLAT, 7400 SOUTH

[3. Oneleven Preliminary Plat; ~ 7400 South Bacchus Highway (Highway U-111); Major Subdivision (Three hundred and thirteen [313] units on approximately 53.2 acres); Integrated Housing Development (IH-D) Zone; Mike Winters / Edge Construction LLC / Bland Recycling (applicant / owner)[Tayler Jensen/Nate Nelson/David Murphy/Paul Brockbank; #34235; Parcels #20-27-200-001-0000 & 20-27--100-002-0000]]

INTEGRATED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN AN I ZONE. MIKE WINTERS. THANK YOU. YEP. YOU CAN. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. I'M ACTUALLY BRANDON WATSON. MIKE WAS UNAVAILABLE THIS EVENING. SO YOU GET YOU GET THE B TEAM HERE TONIGHT. SO. NO. YEAH. SO MY NAME IS BRANDON WATSON VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT AT EDGE HOMES. IT'S EXCITING TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS EVENING I PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE PRESENTATION MORE SO TO JUST, I GUESS, RECAP WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE REZONE PROCESS. WHEN I BROUGHT THIS THROUGH, OBVIOUSLY WE PURCHASED THE LAND SINCE THEN, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY AS A HOMEBUILDER TO COME INTO YOUR CITY AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. SO I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF PERSONALLY TO YOU GUYS, AND THEN JUST KIND OF SHOWCASE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THAT PRODUCT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY, BEFORE THERE WERE SHELLS OF BUILDINGS AND YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT WHAT IT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT I'LL SHOW YOU AS THE END USER WHAT WE INTEND TO BUILD HERE. SO THIS SITE PLAN HERE JUST VERY COLORFUL IN THE SENSE THAT IT DEPICTS A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS THAT WE INTEND TO PLACE AND BUILD ON THIS PROJECT. SO ON THE VERY NORTH NORTH, BEING ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS WHERE WE WILL HAVE ALL OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT LOT WIDTHS AND SIZES JUST BASED ON OUR, OUR PRODUCT AND OUR FOOTPRINTS THAT WE ALLOW OUR BUYERS TO CHOOSE.

AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TOWNHOME PRODUCTS AND SOME THAT ARE ALLEY LOAD, SOME THAT ARE FRONT LOAD. WE DO HAVE SOME TWIN HOME ELEMENTS TO IT. AND THEN I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE TWO BLUE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE, WHICH ARE HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSING IN ORDER TO HELP, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AS A CITY TO BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT BOX FROM A STATE REQUIREMENT STANDPOINT. SO AND THEN, YOU

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SO FIRST WE DO HAVE A CLUBHOUSE AND A POOL AREA ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. THIS IS AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF ONE THAT WE'VE BUILT IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THERE'S A LARGE PLAYGROUND AREA THAT'S TOWARDS THE WEST END OF THE PROJECT. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SCALE OF WHAT THAT THAT PLAYGROUND AREA WILL LOOK LIKE, WE'VE THROWN IT IN THREE LARGE PLAYGROUNDS THERE, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE FINAL DETAILS ON WHAT THAT ACTUAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE. AND BUT THAT'S A GENERAL IDEA TO GIVE YOU SOME SCALING OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN OUR CLUBHOUSE AND OUR POOL AREA. WE DO HAVE LOUNGE CHAIRS, PERGOLAS, SHADE STRUCTURES. WE DO HAVE A TEN FOOT REGIONAL TRAIL THAT GO ALONG 7400 SOUTH, AND THEN ALSO WITHIN THE PROJECT, WE'LL HAVE A DOG PARK WITH PICNIC TABLES AND A PAVILION, AND THEN PLENTY OF OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES THAT WAY SO WE CAN JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IF YOU GO BACK ONE MORE, THAT'S JUST KIND OF A RENDERING OF WHAT THE DOG PARK IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CHIHUAHUAS OR DALMATIANS IN ORDER TO GET IN THERE. WE'RE OPEN TO ANY TYPE OF DOG THAT YOU WANT TO BRING THERE. SO BUT THIS IS JUST OUR OUR VISION OF WHAT WE INTEND THIS AREA TO LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, JUST THE PLAYGROUND AREA ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT, YOU CAN SEE THE PAVILION, SHADE STRUCTURES, PICNIC TABLES. AND THEN AS WE WORK THROUGH THE FINAL DETAILS WITH STAFF, WE'LL WE'LL NARROW DOWN EXACTLY THE MODEL NUMBER FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. THIS IS OUR OUR RENDERING OF WHAT THE CLUBHOUSE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM THE FRONT ENTRANCE. VERY LARGE, SPACIOUS CLUBHOUSE. IT'S ABOUT 4400FT■!S.

IT'S GOT A FITNESS CENTER, THEATER ROOM, GATHERING AREA, KITCHEN, PLENTY OF FACILITIES IN THERE FOR THE REST OR, YOU KNOW, RESTROOMS FOR THE POOL AREA THAT'S GOING TO GO IN BEHIND IT.

JUST AN AERIAL VIEW OF. OF WHAT? THAT MAIN CLUBHOUSE AREA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. LARGE POOL DECK. WE GENERALLY DO THOSE, YOU KNOW, 20 BY 40 OR 30 BY 50, JUST DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT THAT WE HAVE IN THERE. SO THIS WILL WARRANT A LARGER POOL AREA, A LARGE PLENTY OF POOL DECK SPACE FOR, YOU KNOW, LOUNGE CHAIRS AND SHADE STRUCTURES. YEAH. AND THEN THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT, IT'S GOT AMPLE PARKING FOR THOSE THAT ARE LIKE MYSELF, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LESS AMBITIOUS AND NOT WANT TO WALK TO THE CLUBHOUSE AREA, BUT I'LL DRIVE THERE AND PARK MY CAR. SO.

I DO WANT TO SHOWCASE OUR PRODUCT. SO THIS IS A TWIN HOME. THIS IS THE ALI TWIN HOME THAT YOU'LL SEE ALONG 70TH SOUTH. WHEN YOU COME IN OFF OF BACCUS HIGHWAY. THIS WILL BE THE ALI LOAD THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT WILL FRONT ONTO TO THE FRONT DOORS WILL BE FACING 70TH SOUTH. SORRY 7400 SOUTH. AND THESE ARE THE TWIN HOME DRAKE UNITS. VERY LARGE RAMBLER UNIT THAT DOES HAVE A LOFT OPTION UP ABOVE. SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THESE HOMES GET VERY LARGE. WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UNFINISHED BASEMENTS. IF A BUYER WOULD SELECT TO FINISH THE BASEMENT, THEY CAN GET UPWARDS OF, YOU KNOW, FIVE AND SEVEN BEDROOMS IN THESE TWIN HOMES. SO VERY LARGE RAMBLER STYLE UNITS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OVER 40 PLUS FLOOR PLANS THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING OUR BUYERS USING, WITH PLENTY OF DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS AND COLOR SCHEMES THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE.

THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE OF SOME OF THE HOMES THAT WE'VE BUILT. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO RUN THROUGH ALL OF THEM IN RESPECT OF YOUR TIME. BUT WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF HOME STYLES THAT WE CAN BUILD OUT HERE. SO THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS OF OUR FRONT LOAD TOWNHOME UNIT. YOU CAN SEE ON THE SMALLER PICTURES ON THE RIGHT WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE. BUT WE DO HAVE 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT STYLES OF THOSE AS WELL. AND THEN OUR REAR LOAD OR OUR BACK LOAD TOWNHOMES, THESE ARE THEY'RE REALLY A COOL PROJECT AND THEY'RE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT YEAH, IF YOU EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO DRIVE AROUND THROUGH ONE OF OUR PROJECTS, YOU CAN REALLY SEE THIS FOR YOURSELF. BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BUILD HERE IN YOUR CITY. SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL OF MY SLIDES. UNLESS SOMEONE PROVED ME WRONG AND GOES TO THE NEXT ONE, THAT'S IT. THERE WE GO. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER HATCH? NO QUESTIONS. JUST I REALLY LIKE THE PRODUCT. I LIKE YOUR DESIGN. I LIKE I LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING. THANK YOU. OKAY, IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU UP AFTER. OKAY. TAYLOR.

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SO TO GET THOSE TWIN HOMES IN THAT SAME AREA, WE HAD TO REDUCE THOSE FRONTAGE A LITTLE BIT.

NEXT STEPS FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE A FINAL PLAT AND BUILDING PERMIT. BOTH OF THOSE ARE AT STAFF LEVEL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONER HATCH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PRODUCT PAGE, ALL THE COLORED PAGES ON THERE? I JUST I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND HOW IT'S ALL DESIGNED OUT. AND THEN MODERATE INCOME HOUSING IS OR WHAT. WHAT DID YOU CALL IT. IT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, NOT MODERATE ATTAINABLE I LOVE THAT OKAY. THAT'S A GREAT WORD. IT'S A GREAT WORD. BUT THERE'S NO DEFINITION IN THE STATE OF UTAH FOR ATTAINABLE. AND SO WE GO BY MODERATE INCOME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE GET CREDIT FOR. ISN'T THAT PAR FOR THE COURSE THOUGH FOR OUR LEGISLATURE. SORRY. YEAH I LIKE THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE TO SPEAK ON THAT PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. OKAY. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR ACTION ITEMS. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A PRELIMINARY MAJOR SUBDIVISION 111, LOCATED AT 7400 SOUTH BACCHUS HIGHWAY 111, SUBJECT TO ALL REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ROBERTS. I'LL SECOND THAT AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. OKAY.

[4. 190 Commerce; 7381 West New Bingham Highway; Rezone; Ryan Simmons/Boyer Company (applicant)[Tayler Jensen/Todd Johnson/David Murphy/Paul Brockbank #34196 Parcels # 26-09-300-012-0000 & 26-09-100-005-0000]

HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? OH, WHAT WOULD BE LIKE? JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT ABOUT YOUR PLAN. OKAY, OKAY. PERFECT. SO FIRST OFF, I'M WITH THE BOYER COMPANY, AND WE DEVELOPED A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE GENERALLY TO THE EAST OF THIS, WE DEVELOPED WHAT'S KNOWN AS 111 COMMERCE, A LARGE 1,000,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHERE IDL CURRENTLY OCCUPIES. WE DEVELOPED A FRITO-LAY PEPSI BUILDING WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE GARDNER COMPANY, MIKE JONES, YOU GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK. OH, I AM SO SORRY. LET ME SEE IF THIS. I THINK. YOU GOTTA LOVE TECHNOLOGY. DOES THAT HELP? YES.

OKAY. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HAVE TOO MANY KIDS AND WE'RE AT BASEBALL GAMES, COACHING AND ASSISTANT COACHING. AND I RAN OUT OF THE OUTFIELD. AND I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. SO THE PLAN ON THE 190 ACRES, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE BRIAN JONES FAMILY AND WITH THE IVORY

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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. AGAIN THIS IS A NOTICE AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'D WISH TO SPEAK ON IT YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. THERE'S ONE CALLER ON A PHONE, BUT I DON'T SEE A HAND RAISED. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A MOTION AND OR COMMENT. COMMISSIONER HATCH, IF EVERYONE'S OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONE OF APPROXIMATELY 192.32 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL 20 ACRE MINIMUM LOTS, A 20 TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M1 TO MEET THE TO THE WEST JORDAN CITY COUNCIL, SUBJECT TO ALL REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER ALAN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS BEEN PULLED AS THE PARKER PLACE TWO. THANK YOU. PARDON ME. MAKE A MOTION. OH. OKAY. YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. IS THIS TO A DATE CERTAIN OR JUST REMOVAL ALTOGETHER? MR. ALLEN, I MOVE THAT WE MOVE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. PARKER, PLACE NUMBER TWO TO A DATE UNCERTAIN. COMMISSIONER HATCH. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[6. Bingham Heights Phase 5 Rezone; 5891 West 7000 South; Rezone 20.96 acres from LSFR (Low Density Single-Family Residential WSPA) Zone to R-1-9 (Single-family Residential 9,000 square foot lot minimums) Zone; Perry Homes Utah/Lynsi Neve (applicant) [Mark Forsythe/Todd Johnson/David Murphy/Paul Brockbank; #34366; parcel 20-26-200-006]]

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OKAY, MARK, I GUESS YOU'RE UP. ALL RIGHT. PULLING DOUBLE DUTY TONIGHT. OKAY. HOLD ON. MARK DUNCAN, REMIND US IF AN APPLICANT DOES NOT SHOW WHAT IS AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, DON'T WE HAVE A PART OF OUR RULES THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW THEY HAVE TO PRESENT? OR AM I THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE? I MEAN, IT'S ADVISABLE. IT'S PREFERABLE IF THEY DO, BUT I'D HAVE TO LET ME.

WHILE MARK'S TALKING, LET ME JUST REVIEW THE BYLAWS JUST TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, YEAH. I'M SORRY THE APPLICANT COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT I'LL FILL IN AS BEST I CAN. SO BASICALLY, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A CHANGE FROM A CURRENT LSF ZONE TO AN R1 NINE ZONE. SO LOOKING AT THE VICINITY HERE THAT WE'RE OUT ON THE WEST SIDE. SO KIND OF SITUATED BETWEEN 5600 WEST AND MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR AND THEN BETWEEN 78TH AND 70 SOUTH THERE. SO KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. BUT BASICALLY WHAT THIS NEW ZONE IS. IS IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE WITH A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 9000 TO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. SO, SO THE CURRENT ZONE RIGHT NOW IS LIKE I WAS SAYING, AN LSF ZONE. THIS IS KIND OF A HOLDOVER FROM THE WEST SIDE PLANNING AREA THAT IS PRETTY MUCH RUN ITS COURSE. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST REMNANTS OF IT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF A LARGE SCALE PLANNED COMMUNITY BACK IN THE DAY. A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE HIGHLANDS MASTER PLAN, BUT LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED AND WE'RE KIND OF MOVING ON. SO. ONE THING I SHOULD NOTE, TOO, THAT THIS IS JUST A REZONE. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO THE CURRENT DESIGNATION IS FOR VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. SO WHICH WITH THIS ACREAGE THEY WOULD THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF UNITS THEY COULD HAVE IS 63 WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IN THE CONCEPT PLAN HERE. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THERE. BUT GOING BACK SO THIS IS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE MAP HERE, THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE R1 NINE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE SOME OF THE AREAS AROUND IT. TO THE EAST THERE IS AN R1 EIGHT ZONE. SO THAT'S 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

SAME SAME TO THE NORTH THERE. THAT'S VACANT LAND OWNED BY THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, BUT IS ENTITLED TO THOSE 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. AND THEN TO THE WEST IS THE COPPER RIM PLANNED COMMUNITY.

THAT'S PC ZONE THAT THE PHASES NEXT TO IT ARE COPPER RIM PHASE FOUR AND PHASE FIVE. AND SO COPPER RIM PHASE FOUR HAS SOME 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS RIGHT ON RIGHT ADJOINING THAT PROPOSED REZONE AREA. AND THEN KIND OF AS YOU MOVE FURTHER TO THE WEST, THEY GET A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

SO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S AROUND THERE. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH THAT THAT MFI ZONE.

THAT AGAIN IS ANOTHER HOLDOVER FROM THE WSP. SO EVENTUALLY THAT'LL BE ROUGHLY AROUND 57 UNITS WITH SOME OPEN SPACE AMENITIES FOR A PLANNED COMMUNITY. ASSUMING THAT ZONE STAYS THE WAY IT IS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT PERRY HOMES HAS PROVIDED. SO THIS IS KIND OF THEIR THEIR PLAN FOR THE AREA. THEY HAD TO INCREASE THE SIZE ON SOME OF THEIR LOTS JUST TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE 63. BUT BASICALLY THEY'LL BE CONTINUING THAT ROAD THROUGH THERE AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. WE'VE ALREADY GOT STUBS TO THE EAST AND THEN

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COMMISSIONER ALLEN, COULD YOU GO BACK ONE. TALK ABOUT THE TRANSITION THERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, EAST SIDE OF COPPER AND PHASE FOUR ON THE ROADWAY, WHERE IT GOES FROM 50 FOOT TO I'M GUESSING A YES. SO, SO ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU'VE GOT THE POWER CHORD OR THE REGIONAL POWER CORRIDOR THERE. AND THEN EAST OF THAT IS BINGHAM HEIGHTS PHASE THREE. THAT SUBDIVISION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND CONSTRUCTED. CONSTRUCTED. SO THEY STUB THAT ROAD TO THE POWER CORRIDOR. SO WITH OUR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS, WE DO REQUIRE THAT SUBDIVISIONS CONNECT TO THOSE STUBS. SO AGAIN WHEN THEY WHEN THEY DO COME BACK FOR THEIR SUBDIVISION REVIEW, THEY'LL HAVE TO CONNECT THAT AS REQUIRED BY THE WEST SIDE WHERE IT'S GOING TO COPPER RIM. WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS GOING FROM THE 50 FOOT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, IS THERE? HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW THE RIGHT OF WAY IN COPPER RIM PHASE FOUR. BUT. I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE A LOCAL ROAD. I KIND OF BE SURPRISED IF IT WASN'T. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, NATE? I DON'T THINK MAYBE. BUT AS IT GOES TO THE EAST, IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO. SORRY.

IT'S THE SAME ROAD, BUT THE QUESTION WAS, IS THE WIDTH? BECAUSE FURTHER EAST YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S A THICKER OR A WIDER WIDTH THAN THAN 50FT. TO THE WEST. OH YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE. YEAH. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. MAYBE WE COULD AFTER. YEAH. SO, SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THESE TWO REALLY SLIM PARCELS ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT, THAT ROAD STUB THERE. THOSE ARE ACTUALLY OPEN SPACE PARCELS. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ACTUALLY THOSE TWO LANES IN BETWEEN IT IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND THOSE SHOULD BE LINING UP THE ACTUAL ROAD DRIVING SURFACE DOESN'T GET ANY DIFFERENT. OH OKAY. THANK YOU NATE. YEAH. SO THAT RIGHT OF WAY INCLUDES NOT JUST THE ROAD ITSELF BUT CURB, GUTTER PARK, STRIP AND SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE YOU GUYS OKAY IF I CALL UP THE APPLICANT? I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. OKAY. GO AHEAD. JUST CURIOUS, SINCE THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD ALLOW THEM THREE UNITS PER ACRE AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOWS THEM THREE UNITS PER ACRE. WHAT WHAT IS THE POINT OF CHANGING THE ZONING? SO THE LSF ZONE ALLOWS THEM FOR KIND OF A RANGE OF DENSITIES. SO ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF, BASED

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BESIDES, WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIT FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND AREA. YOU KNOW, THE R19 IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING CURRENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT'S PROPOSED THERE. I THINK SOMETHING JUST TO NOTE ON OUR ON OUR PLAN IS THERE'S QUITE A MIX OF SIZES AS WELL. WHEN YOU PLAN OUT A NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THOUGH R19 ALLOWS FOR 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF NINES. WE HAVE A LOT OF ELEVENS AND 12 AND 14, AND SO THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD MIX WITHIN THIS PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE SHOWING. AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT ALLOWS 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, THERE'S A VARIETY OF LOT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE. AND WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A REALLY GOOD TRANSITION FROM WHAT'S IN BINGHAM HEIGHTS TO WHAT'S IN COPPER RIM. SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE'RE HERE AND THE ZONING REASONS TO GET OUT OF LSF, R AND R19. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR I AM. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF LSF TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP. YEAH.

COMMISSIONER ALAN. YEAH. QUESTION FOR STAFF. FIRST. THIS IS JUST A ZONE CHANGE RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT SAID I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SITE PLAN JUST FINE. IT'S NOT PART OF IT. BUT WHO WHO MAINTAINS PARCEL A. SO WE'LL GET INTO THOSE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET GET INTO THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION. BUT LIKELY IT WOULD BE AN HOA. OKAY. YEAH. IT'LL DEPEND ON WHEN WE GET TO PRELIMINARY. WE USUALLY WORK THAT OUT BASED ON WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I DON'T THINK, YEAH, IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN DISCUSSED AT THIS POINT. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY. AND THERE'S SOME EASEMENT REASONS AND UTILITIES. THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE TRAIL ON THE OPEN SPACE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME. IF NOT, RAISE YOUR HAND. WE HAVE SOMEBODY ONLINE THAT'S RAISING THEIR HANDS. PLEASE SPEAK. STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES WE CAN. HI. MY NAME IS NATE. I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER NATE THERE. WHAT A COOL GUY. YOU GUYS ALREADY ANSWERED QUITE A FEW OF MY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT AND COMMISSIONER ALAN ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT WHY THE ZONING IS EVEN BEING CHANGED. THAT WAS THAT WAS LIKE, DETAILED IS VERY GREAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE A COUPLE REMAINING QUESTIONS ALSO ABOUT ROADS. SO I DO SEE THE ROAD HEADING OUT TO THE NORTH. AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S OWNED BY JORDAN SCHOOL DISTRICT.

DOES ANYBODY IN THE WORLD HAVE ANY DETAIL ON IF THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN, IF THEY'RE

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MARK, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WE I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT JORDAN'S SCHOOL DISTRICT IS OR ISN'T GOING TO DO EVER. SO, YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT, I DON'T IT'S TRUE. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES OWN THAT PIECE TO THE NORTH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PLAN TO DEVELOP A SCHOOL THERE OR SELL IT OFF. SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT. THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH THOUGH, IN THAT MF R ZONE JUST GOING BACK HERE. SO THAT'S A VERY SMALL SLIVER OF THE HIGHLANDS MASTER PLAN. IT'S IN FACT IT'S THE LAST REMAINING PIECE IN THAT MASTER PLAN. BUT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF TOWNHOMES OR BALANCED HOUSING ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW ANY SORT OF EXCEPTION THERE UNLESS THEY WERE TO GO WITH SENIOR HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT BUT YEAH, THOSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS THERE WAS AN IDEA TO DO TOWNHOMES THERE AS PART OF THE HIGHLANDS MASTER PLAN, BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN APPLICATION IN BEFORE THAT BALANCED HOUSING ORDINANCE TOOK EFFECT. AND SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE VESTED PRIOR TO THAT. SO, SO LIKELY WE'D BE LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL PLANNED COMMUNITY FOR THAT PIECE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER ALAN. MARK, DO YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ONE, BUT I HAVE A THAT'LL WORK. OH, I APOLOGIZE, I'M SORRY. I AM SO LAZY. I READ THESE VERBATIM, BUT I JUST COME EXPECTING IT TO BE HERE. BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT. UPON THE EVIDENCE EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE THE PARCEL, COMPRISING 20.96 ACRES AND LOCATED AT 5891 WEST 7000 SOUTH FROM AN LSF R ZONE LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SPA TO AN R1 NINE ZONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUMS. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. NEXT IS THE

[7. Text Amendment – Balanced Housing Ordinance; Amend the West Jordan Code Title 13 Chapter 13-8-23(B)(1)(j): allowing twin homes on parcel(s) or lot(s) in an existing R-3 Zone, as long as the following criteria is met: The R-3 zoning has continuously existed since October 22, 2014; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Megan Jensen/Larry Gardner]]

MEGAN. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT JUST ADDING AN EXCEPTION TO OUR BALANCED HOUSING ORDINANCE, WHICH BASICALLY LIMITS ANY MULTI, ANY TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING BEING BUILT IN THE CITY AT AT THIS TIME. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE RED THERE IS THE LANGUAGE BEING ADDED. SO IT WOULD JUST ADD OR ALLOW FOR TWIN HOMES ON PARCELS OR LOTS IN AN EXISTING R THREE

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IT'S A PRETTY SMALL IMPACT. SO THIS IS BEEN INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE COUNCILMAN MET WITH SOME CONSTITUENTS WHO HAD A PRETTY SPECIFIC SITUATION. OUT OF SEVERAL OPTIONS. THIS IS THE ONE THAT THAT COUNCILMAN GOT SPONSORED THROUGH. AND IT IS CITYWIDE IMPACT. BUT REALLY, IT ONLY APPLIES TO BUT TWO PROPERTIES WITH THESE VERY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS. AND SO THE END RESULT IS GOING TO BE PRETTY MINIMAL. I REMEMBER IT WAS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO THAT THAT CAME UP FOR A COUPLE PARCELS THERE OFF OF 13TH WEST. AND SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAR NINE IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE. OKAY. SINCE THERE'S NOBODY, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR.

COMMISSIONER ALAN FOR A MOTION OR MOTION. SORRY, I DIDN'T FINISH MY THOUGHT PROCESS. YEAH, I'M SORRY I JUMPED RIGHT IN THERE. I SEE THAT IT'S HARMLESS. IT'S FINE. BUT I DO THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL PROBABLY HAS TO STOP AND LOOK AT THE BALANCED HOUSING ORDINANCE AS A WHOLE INSTEAD OF JUST CONTINUING TO MAKE ADDITIONAL LITTLE MODIFICATIONS FOR WHAT I WILL SAY ARE ALMOST PET PROJECTS. BEFORE YOU MAKE THE COMMENT OR I MEAN THE RECOMMENDATION OR MOTION. SORRY, I KNOW WE BROUGHT UP A WHILE AGO ABOUT SENIOR HOUSING CHANGING THAT. WHATEVER HAPPENED ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, SCOTT, DID YOU JOG MY MEMORY? WHAT WHAT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SENIOR HOUSING? WE WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO AWAY WITH THAT MOTION OR DID WE? NO, WE DID THE OVERLAY. YEAH. NO WE DID, DID WE? YEAH. OKAY. I'M HAVING A SENIOR MOMENT. AND IF I, IF I COULD, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE OF THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION, THE COUNCIL HAD A PRETTY LONG DRAWN OUT CONVERSATION ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER ALAN JUST BROUGHT UP, WHICH IS WE NEED TO TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT THIS. AND THEY ARE. AND ACTUALLY, I THINK RAY IS WORKING ON A BROADER CODE AMENDMENT TO THE BALANCED HOUSING ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS TOWNHOMES, SPECIFICALLY CITYWIDE. I KNOW THIS WAS ALL BROUGHT UP, ACTUALLY, BEFORE I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THE PARTIES THAT KIND OF DROVE THAT AND HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. SO. EITHER PRO OR AGAINST, I WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT WERE VERY PRO, BUT I, I CAN SEE DEFINITELY IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND RE READDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES. SO. I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU END UP WITH, YOU START WITH A HOUSE AND YOU KEEP ADDING ROOMS AND IT NO LONGER LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE. IT'S JUST SOME SORT OF FRANKENSTEIN THING. YOU JUST GOT TO DEMO IT AND START OVER. SO BASED ON THE INFORMATION

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[8. Text Amendment – Conditional Use Permits; Continued from March 18, 2025; Amend the West Jordan Code Section 13-7E-10 Status of Conditional Use Permit, adding revocation language for non-use of conditional use permit; City-wide applicability; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Larry Gardner #34450]]

BUT THERE IS THAT DUE PROCESS. SO THE BEAUTY OF THIS METHOD I THINK IS THERE'S THE AUTOMATIC NATURE OF IT, BUT THEN THERE'S STILL THE DUE PROCESS SIDE. RIGHT. AND SOMEBODY HAS GOT A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME, 15 DAYS TO RESPOND. SO AND THEN IN THE. SUBSECTION B THEN THAT'S THE ONE WHERE IF SOMEBODY ALREADY HAD THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BUT THEY HAVE NOT USED IT, THEY'VE CEASED TO USE IT FOR A CONTINUOUS PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS OR MORE. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR SENDS OUT A LETTER, BUT IT'S A 45 DAY LETTER OF INTENT TO TERMINATE. SO BASICALLY THE ZONING MINISTER IS SAYING, SAYING, HEY, I'M THINKING ABOUT TERMINATING BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVEN'T USED YOUR CUP FOR 12 MONTHS OR MORE.

AND THEN IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, THEN THEN THAT TERMINATION LETTER IS SENT OUT. AND THEN IF THERE'S NO APPEAL WITHIN 15 DAYS, THEN, THEN THE THAT WOULD BE TERMINATED. IF THEY DO, IF THE LANDOWNER DOES RESPOND WITHIN THE 45 CALENDAR DAYS, THEN THE CITY COULD APPEAL IT AND STILL HAVE A HEARING IN FRONT OF THE ALJ TO CHALLENGE THAT, THAT THEY'RE REALLY NOT FOLLOWING IT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I THINK THERE'S LIKE I SAY, SOME GOOD, GOOD DUE PROCESS THERE. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S SOMETHING'S APPARENT. BUT IF SOMEONE IF YOU GIVE SOMEBODY THE CHANCE TO PROVE THEN YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THEY DID ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, OR MAYBE THEY REALLY ARE STILL USING THE SEP AND THEY'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SO OF COURSE, THIS IS ALL BASED ON LANDOWNER RIGHTS, RIGHT? SO IT'S WHOEVER THE LANDOWNER IS, IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE SENDING IT TO AND THE ONE THAT HAS THE RIGHT TO A HEARING IN FRONT OF AN ALJ. SO AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER PARTS OF OUR CUP PART OF OUR CODE WHERE YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT THE 15 DAY RULE. APPEAL RULE BASICALLY. SO I THINK IT TIES IN PERFECTLY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS THOUGHTS. MR. ALLEN? THIS IS MY SLOW MOMENT. I KNOW I HAVE A LOT, BUT THIS IS THE I WAS READING THIS AND I KEPT GOING BACK BETWEEN THE 24 MONTHS AND A AND THE 12 MONTHS AND B AND FOR SOME REASON MY BRAIN IS NOT RECONCILING THOSE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND HOW THEY WORK? RIGHT. SO IN THE A THIS IS WHEN YOU GET A BRAND NEW SEP JUST BARELY GOT IT. AND TYPICALLY YOUR NEW CUP AND YOU EITHER HAVE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT OR YOU HAVE TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE, OR YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHER CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND THE THOUGHT THAT CAME UP AT THE LAST MEETING IS, IS 12 MONTHS REALLY ADEQUATE? RIGHT. AND ESPECIALLY DURING WE'VE SEEN WITH WEIRD THINGS WITH COVID AND THE ECONOMY AND WORLD EVENTS, THAT SOMETIMES 12 MONTHS GOES REALLY FAST. AND IT'S MAYBE SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T EVEN REASONABLY GET DONE IN 12 MONTHS. AND SO THE MAIN REASON I WENT 24, THERE

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WHEREAS IF YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOREVER TO. IF SOMEBODY'S ABANDONED IT TO HAVE IT TERMINATED. RIGHT? JUST IT WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO WAIT FOREVER AT THAT POINT. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE METHOD TO THE MADNESS THERE. AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING'S BEEN 12 MONTHS WITH, WITH SIPS FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE. BUT BUT I DO LIKE THE CHANGE TO 24 MONTHS ON THE NEW SIP, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND. THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE OKAY. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR MOTION AND OR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR INCORPORATING THE CHANGES. I THINK IT WENT GREAT. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE READY. YEAH. BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS APPLICATION.

ROBERT, I WILL SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S. OH, COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE

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