[Pre-Meeting 5:30 p.m.] [00:00:07] ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. PRE MEETING. RECORDING IN PROGRESS. SORRY JULIE TO JUMP THE GUN. WE'LL START THE PRE MEETING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON OUR DAY AUGUST 5TH TUESDAY AUGUST 5TH. FIRST WE HAVE THE MEETINGS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES. SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES. NOPE. OKAY. OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS THE TRUCK RANCH PYLON SIGN. AND MEGAN, YOU HAVE THAT ONE. YEAH. SO THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FREEWAY ORIENTED SIGN. IT'S ALONG MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR. THE. I THINK IT'S 350FT■!S OVERALL. AND IT'LL BE AN ELECTRONIC SIGN. AND SO THEY'RE JUST GETTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT. ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO MEGAN, READING THROUGH IT I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. YOU CAN'T TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. THEY CAN'T HAVE A MESSAGE THAT HAS WORDS. AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF WORDS, ALL RELATED. BUT CAN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MESSAGES THAT THEY SHOW ON THAT? YES. YEAH. THEY CAN SWITCH BETWEEN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS SALT DEPOT WEST STORAGE YARD. AND LET'S SEE WHO'S GOT THAT ONE. MARK. THAT WOULD BE ME. OH OKAY. ALL RIGHT A VOICE FROM. VOICE FROM HEAVEN. SO HOPEFULLY I HAVEN'T DIED YET. HOPEFULLY. ANYWAY, SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WITH THIS ITEM. SO FIRST OF ALL, SALT DEPOT, THEY'RE A SALT PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION COMPANY LOCATED IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY, JUST EAST OF MOUNT VIEW CORRIDOR, KIND OF IN THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT THEY OWN SEVERAL PARCELS, AND RECENTLY THEY'VE ACQUIRED THE THREE ACRE PARCEL JUST TO THE WEST OF THEM. SO IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR. IT'S BEEN KIND OF KIND OF BEEN USED AS A NOT SO LEGAL STORAGE FACILITY FOR TRUCKS AND VEHICLES OVER THE YEARS, AND NOW THEY PURCHASED IT AND WANT TO KIND OF CLEAN IT UP AND USE IT THE RIGHT WAY. SO WE'RE GLAD THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO DO THAT. BUT ANYWAY, THERE'S TWO ITEMS TONIGHT THAT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING. ONE IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS FOR TWO THINGS. THE FIRST IS FOR AN OUTDOOR STORAGE YARD. SO MOSTLY FOR VEHICLES, MATERIALS, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS STORAGE OF SALT OR SAND PILES IN THE DRINKING WATER SOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY. SO THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES OR WITHIN A THREE YEAR PROTECTION ZONE. BUT YEAH. SO THAT'S THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A MODIFICATION TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. THERE'S SOME BAY DOORS ON THE BUILDING. THEY'RE PROPOSED BUILDING THAT TECHNICALLY FACED THE ROAD. AND SO THEY'RE REQUESTING PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR THAT. THAT ONE SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPL, SINCE THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE SITUATED CLEAR AT THE VERY, VERY BACK OF THE LOT, PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM THE ROAD. AND THEN THAT PROPERTY'S ALREADY ENCIRCLED BY A SOLID METAL FENCE, AT LEAST ON THREE SIDES AND FRONT. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'LL HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING TREES THAT WILL HELP TO CONCEAL IT EVEN MORE. SO. SO ALL SAID AND DONE, IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE MUCH, IF ANYTHING, BUT BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. OTHER THAN THAT THEIR THEIR SITE PLANS SHOWING REALLY LARGE PAVED AREA. THEY'RE GOING TO PRIMARILY BE USING THIS FOR STORING THEIR LARGER DISTRIBUTION TRUCKS AND EMPLOYEE VEHICLES AND WHICH WILL HELP IN GETTING THOSE OFF THE ROAD AND KEEPING THOSE ON SITE. SO THAT'LL HELP THEIR. BUT YEAH, OTHER THAN THAT THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD SITE PLAN. AND YEAH IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER THOSE. THANK YOU MARK. ANY QUESTIONS. NO THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS THE SOUTH VALLEY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. AND RAY. YEAH. SO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF 1300 WEST, JUST ABOVE THIS SOUTH VALLEY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. THE SOUTH. I DON'T I [00:05:02] DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WERE THERE AT THE TIME. BACK IN JUNE OF 24, THERE WAS A SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED. IT WAS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK. AND THEN THAT'S ALSO THE DESIGNATION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. BUT IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT, THERE'S I THINK THE BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK IS KIND OF ENVISIONED TO BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT'S UP AT THE U OF U, WITH THE LARGE BUILDINGS AND LARGE LANDSCAPED AREAS, THE SOUTH VALLEY NOW OWNS THAT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND HAS FOR SOME TIME. AND WHAT THE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO IS THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT THE PROPERTY BE REZONED FROM THAT BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK TO A PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING DISTRICT, AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO ALLOW THE SETBACKS TO BE REDUCED FOR THAT FRONT YARD, THAT FRONT YARD SETBACK OFF OF 1300 WEST BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK ZONE, YOU'VE GOT A 50 FOOT MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK, WHEREAS IN THE PUBLIC FACILITY ZONE IS 30FT. WHEN YOU'RE ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO. SO PART OF THAT IS JUST TO REDUCE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. AND ALSO THERE'S SOME TOPOGRAPHIC ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPERTY. IT KIND OF SLOPES OFF. AND SO TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF FILL ON THE PROPERTY, THEY JUST ARE LOOKING AT REDUCING THAT FRONT SIGHT BACK. THE SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE MOVING THEIR WASTE. WELL IT'S JUST THE, THE, THE DUMP STATION UP TO THAT PROPERTY. AND THEN ALSO MAYBE DO A MAINTENANCE FACILITY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SET PLANS ON THAT OR WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU RISK WITH REZONING PROPERTY IS THAT ALL THOSE USES THAT ARE IN THAT PUBLIC, PUBLIC FACILITY, ZONING DISTRICT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THAT PROPERTY WERE ZONED TO THAT PUBLIC FACILITIES DESIGNATION. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE SOUTH VALLEY HAS ANY INTENT TO DO THAT, TO BRING THOSE BIG OPERATIONS FROM WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW OR EXPAND THOSE. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE PLANS ON WHERE THOSE OTHER FACILITIES, THOSE OTHER FACILITIES ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED. SO THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THAT I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THEY'RE BRINGING THAT FACILITY UP TOWARDS 1300 WEST IS JUST FOR TO JUST ADD SOME SECURITY FOR THAT SITE TO BRING ALL THAT PUBLIC INTERACTION WITH SOUTH VALLEY UP TO THE STREET AND KIND OF SEPARATE THOSE OUT. SO THERE'LL BE A NEW ROAD THAT'LL BE INSTALLED AT SOME POINT AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO WE DID TAKE THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND I THINK THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING WAS, I THINK THE, THE CITY COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING IT ZONED AS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC FACILITIES, BECAUSE SETBACKS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME. BUT IN THIS SITE, THERE'S IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL USES ON THREE SIDES. SO I THINK THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES FROM THE POSSIBILITY, IF YOU WILL, OF THOSE USES ENCROACHING UP ONTO THE INTO THAT AREA AND POSSIBLY IMPACTING THOSE NEIGHBORS. SO IT MIGHT BE AN INTERIM THING. SOUTH VALLEY WHEN THOSE PLANS WERE CONCRETE AND THEN COME BACK IN FOR REZONE TO ZONE PUBLIC FACILITIES AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. BUT THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ALAN, WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM SOUTH VALLEY WATER ON THE. INSTEAD OF PH GO TO A. I THINK THEY'D STILL RATHER SEE IT IN THE PH AS OPPOSED TO THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO STEPS WHEN THEY WANT TO COME BACK IN TO EXPAND TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THOSE USES OR DEVELOP THOSE USES UP ON THIS PARCEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. FIFTH ITEM IS VISIONARY SQUARE. AND MARK BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. YEAH. SO THIS IS. THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND REZONE INVOLVING THREE PARCELS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BANGERTER HIGHWAY AND 90TH SOUTH. ANYWAY, THESE PARCELS, THEY'RE KIND OF IN A WEIRD [00:10:05] LANDLOCKED SITUATION THAT THE OWNER HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT FOR MANY YEARS NOW. INITIALLY THEY HAD LOOKED AT DOING MULTI-FAMILY THERE AND RAN IT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND. COUNCIL JUST HAD A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS, REALLY DIDN'T LIKE IT AND IT JUST REALLY WASN'T PENCILING OUT FOR THE DEVELOPER. SO THEY'VE DECIDED TO SWITCH GEARS HERE A LITTLE BIT AND TAKE SOME SOME ADVICE FROM THE COUNCIL AND HAVE. TRIED TO GO WITH A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE REZONE SO THEY'LL BE CHANGING. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ON A COUPLE OF THOSE PARCELS. SOME, WELL, FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED FOR ALL THREE ACTUALLY TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. BUT ONE OF THOSE PARCELS IS ALREADY ZONED POA PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONE. SO. SO THEY'LL BE CHANGING THE OTHER TWO PARCELS TO MATCH THAT THAT ZONE. BUT BUT BASICALLY THE IDEA IS TO KIND OF DEVELOP THIS AS BUSINESS INCUBATOR OFFICES, KIND OF LIKE THESE SMALL SMALL OFFICES THAT BUSINESSES CAN PURCHASE AND KIND OF HAVE THEIR OWN REALLY SMALL SPACE JUST AS THEY GET STARTED, STARTED IN THEIR BUSINESS. SO. SO YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF THE ROUTE THEY'RE GOING, THE ACCESS THERE IS BEING SO CLOSE TO THAT. BANGERTER 90TH SOUTH INTERCHANGE IS SO NARROW THAT IT COULD REALLY BE ONLY A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. SO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS REALLY PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY LOW TRAFFIC COMMERCIAL USE THAT THAT COULD REALLY WORK. SO WE ACTUALLY RAN THIS THROUGH THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL A WHILE BACK, BACK IN APRIL. THEY SEEM TO REALLY LIKE IT. THEY HAD RUN A TOWN HALL MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH JUST A FEW WEEKS FOR THAT, AND GOT SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS. MOST OF THE CONCERN WAS REALLY WITH CARS COMING IN AND OUT THROUGH THAT NORTH ACCESS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GATED OFF. IN FACT, THAT THAT PROVISION IS ACTUALLY IN THE MDA THAT'S COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ALONG WITH THIS REZONING, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT. BUT. YEAH, SO THOSE RESIDENTS WERE PRETTY MUCH JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLOSED OFF TO PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES, WHICH WILL BE AND OTHER THAN THAT, THEY SEEM TO SEEM TO LIKE THE CONCEPT. SO. THANK YOU MARK. I CAN SEE WHY THEY'RE CALLING IT VISIONARY SQUARE. THEY'VE CAUGHT THE VISION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO THANK YOU. OUR SIXTH ITEM IS SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. GREG, DO WE NEED TO GO OVER THIS NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST DO IT IN THE MAIN MEETING? WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK. NOW, THAT WILL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT. OKAY. HI, DAVE. WELL, WE CAN WAIT UNTIL THE MEETING. WE'VE GOT TRAINING TODAY, SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT DAVE AND GREG. OKAY. WE'LL WAIT AND SEE UNTIL THE MEETING AND HAVE THAT PRESENTED. THE LAST ITEM IS TEXT AMENDMENT AND MACON HAS THIS ONE. SO THIS IS AMENDING. WE HAVE A SECTION IN OUR CODE CURRENTLY TO REGULATE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES BEING PARKED IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES. AND WE ARE WELL IN THE PAST WE HAVE TRIED TO AMEND THIS. WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE YET. SO RECENTLY BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WE WENT TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, TALKED TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT IT. FROM THERE, WE DID A SURVEY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF GET THEIR VISION OF WHAT THEY WANTED. WE TOOK IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, I THINK, IN NOVEMBER. AND SO THIS IS THE DRAFT THAT WE HAVE FROM THERE. AND THIS SECTION WILL REGULATE ALL VEHICLES PARKED IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES. WE HAVE INCLUDED A TABLE KIND OF OUTLINING SPECIFICALLY DIFFERENT CLASSES OF VEHICLES AND WHERE THEY CAN BE PARKED. AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO RESIDENTS AND ENFORCE THIS CODE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, [00:15:01] I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? JIMMY WAS THERE AND THEN COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO, BUT OKAY. THERE WE GO. OTHER BUTTON. THIS IS JUST FOR THE OVERNIGHT PARKING. IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT WORKERS WHO COME AND DO CONSTRUCTION JOBS DURING THE DAY AT PEOPLE'S. THE IMPACTS OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS COMING TO THEIR HOUSES. OR PARKING. YES, YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SORRY. THERE'S A DEFINITION FOR PARKING THAT WE'RE INCLUDED TO SPECIFY THAT. SO GREAT. THANKS, MEGAN. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL ADJOURN UNTIL 6:00. WELL, NOT REALLY ADJOURN. WE'LL ADJOURN FOR TRAINING, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK FOR THE MEETING ON THIS AT SIX. ADJOURN FOR TRAINING. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF LAST MONTH'S TRAINING. YOU HAVE A PRINTED HANDOUT. IT'S ALSO UP ON THE SCREEN. LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS IN GENERAL, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTY RIGHTS FEE SIMPLE EASEMENTS AND SO FORTH. AND LAST TIME WE ALSO TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN LANDS USE APPLICANT COMES IN WITH AN APPLICATION. AND AS WE KNOW NOWADAYS, BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALIZED NATURE OF A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF TIMES APPLICANTS WILL HIRE AN EXPERT. WITH THOSE EXPERTS WE USUALLY REFER TO AS DEVELOPERS. THE DEVELOPERS A LOT OF TIMES ARE NOT THE CURRENT OWNERS, BUT THEY HAVE AN OPTION TO PURCHASE. AND SO WITH EVERY APPLICATION, WE REQUIRE AN OWNER'S AFFIDAVIT WHICH BASICALLY SAYS, YES, THIS IS MY EXPERT THAT'S HANDLING THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR ME. I'M AWARE OF IT, I AGREE TO IT, I AUTHORIZE IT, AND THEN IF THERE'S A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEN IN ADDITION TO THE MASTER DEVELOPER SIGNING THE MDA, THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN OWNER CONSENT. SO THE OWNER CONSENTS TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THE MDA. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LAST TIME. BASICALLY JUST PROPERTY, REAL PROPERTY OWNERSHIP RIGHTS, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF LAND USE APPLICATIONS THAT WORK THEIR WAY TOWARDS YOU, ANOTHER LAND USE OR REAL PROPERTY ISSUE THAT COMES UP BECAUSE YOU ARE THE LAND USE AUTHORITY FOR SUBDIVISION PLATS, IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF CITY STREETS DEDICATING THEM, VACATING THEM, AND IF THERE'S A REVERSION OF LAND THAT USED TO BE IN A CITY STREET THAT WAS VACATED, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES IT GO? THOSE ISSUES. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. LAST TIME I REFERRED TO FEE SIMPLE ABSOLUTE, WHICH IS YOU JUST COMPLETELY OWN THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. AS COMPARED TO FEE SIMPLE DEFEASIBLE, WHICH MEANS THERE'S SOME REVERSIONARY PROPERTY. RIGHT? I DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL ON THAT LAST TIME. ONE OF THE ONES THAT THAT'S APPLIED TO US IS A CITY. IS SOMEBODY DEEDED PROPERTY TO US FOR ONE OF OUR PARKS. AND IN THAT DEED IT SAID, IF THIS LAND IS EVER NOT USED FOR THAT STATED PURPOSE OF RECREATION, OPEN SPACE AND SO FORTH, THEN IT SHOULD REVERT BACK TO THE PRIOR OWNER. SO WE CAN'T LIKE SELL IT OFF TO FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE OR WHATEVER. AND SO THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A REVERSIONARY PROPERTY. RIGHT. BUT THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS MORE THE FOR CITY STREETS. RIGHT. IT'S SOMETHING IS DEDICATED IN PARTICULAR ON A PLAT BECOMES A CITY STREET. WHAT IF WE DON'T NEED THE CITY STREET ANYMORE? WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY NOW? WHERE DOES IT GO? THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. RIGHT. SO IN ORDER TO TALK ABOUT THAT, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEDICATION, THREE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT STREETS CAN BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY. THE FIRST ONE ISN'T AS KNOWN BY A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT IT HAPPENED A LOT, ESPECIALLY AS A NEW CITY WHEN THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS. BUT THESE STREETS BECAME STREETS JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE DROVE THERE, RIGHT? AND THE WAY THE STATE LAW WORKS IS THAT BY RIGHT OF USE OR PUBLIC USE, IF THE IF IT'S BEEN USED FOR PUBLIC USE AS A PUBLIC THOROUGHFARE FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS, THERE'S NO FORMAL ACTION REQUIRED. IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES A CITY STREET. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT, RIGHT? SO IF THEY DON'T WANT THE THAT WHERE EVERYBODY'S DRIVING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE TO BECOME A CITY STREET, THEY SHOULD PROBABLY NOT ALLOW IT TO KEEP HAPPENING FOR TEN YEARS. RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S BECOMES [00:20:03] DEDICATED. THE MORE COMMON WAY IT HAPPENS NOWADAYS, RIGHT, IS THAT BY SUBDIVISION PLAT. AND THEN THE ADVANTAGE TO SUBDIVISION PLAT IS IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. WE KNOW THE EXACT 50 FOOT WIDTH OF RIGHT OF WAY OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR THAT STREET, BECAUSE IT'S CALLED OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY ON THE PLAT. THE CHALLENGE WITH THE PUBLIC USE IS, OKAY, WE KNOW THAT'S A STREET, BUT WHAT'S THE STREET? IS IT 40FT WIDE? IS IT 50FT WIDE? AND IF SO, WHAT 40 OR 50FT? IS IT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? THE ADVANTAGE TO A SUBDIVISION PLAT IS IT'S CALLED OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY. AND THEN THE LAST WAY IS BY DEED, NOT AS PREFERRED USUALLY TO A PLAT. BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLER IF IT HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES WHERE THERE'S ESPECIALLY ALONG THE AIRPORT WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A STREET. BUT MAYBE WHEN A BUSINESS COMES IN, THEY NEED TO MAKE THE STREET 5 OR 10FT WIDER TO MEET THE WIDTH REQUIREMENTS. AND IF THEY'RE HAVING TO, IN A SENSE, A DEDICATED STREET, THEN A DEED IS PREFERABLE. ALSO BECAUSE WITHOUT GOING INTO IT, THERE'S A LOT OF UNUSUAL SITUATIONS BEHIND THE BOUNDARY STREETS AROUND THE AIRPORT WHERE THEY'RE NOT OFFICIALLY WEST JORDAN DEDICATED CITY STREETS THE WAY OTHER STREETS ARE. AND SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO WIDEN THE ROAD. OR IF THERE'S A SPECIAL SITUATION LIKE THE AIRPORT ROAD, TO JUST HAVE SOME DEED THAT EXTRA WIDTH TO US. RIGHT? OR IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A PRIVATE ROAD AND WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT AS A PRIVATE ROAD BECAUSE IT MEETS ALL OF OUR QUALIFICATIONS OF OUR CITY STANDARDS AND SO FORTH, A DEED MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO IT INSTEAD OF A SUBDIVISION OR JUST STREET DEDICATION. A DEED IS AN OPTION. SO THEN WE GET TO THAT NEXT SECTION AT THE BOTTOM OF FIRST PAGE, IT TALKS ABOUT FORMAL ABANDONMENT OF DEDICATED STREETS AND STREETS CAN'T JUST BE ABANDONED JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING USED RIGHT. THEY CAN BECOME STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING USED, BUT THEY CAN'T UNBECOME OR STOP BEING STREETS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING USED. I MEAN, IN THEORY, YOU COULD HAVE A STREET THAT WAS DEDICATED ON A PLAT AND NOBODY USED IT FOR 40 YEARS STRAIGHT. GUESS WHAT? STILL STREET. AND THE ONLY WAY, OTHER THAN A FEW EXCEPTIONS, THERE'S A 50 YEAR EXCEPTION. IF IT HASN'T BEEN USED FOR 50 YEARS. IT'S IN THE CODE NOW. BUT TYPICALLY YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WRITTEN. DOCUMENT. IT'S GOT TO BE AN ORDINANCE OR A PLAT OR WHATEVER THAT GETS RID OF IT, SO TO SPEAK, AND THAT IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AND THEN RECORDED AT THE COUNTY RECORDER'S OFFICE. AND UNTIL THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, COUNCIL APPROVES SOMETHING AND IT GETS RECORDED. COUNTY RECORDER THEN THEN NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. RIGHT. AND THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY, IF YOU REMEMBER, WITH THE MERCED CREEK DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE ACTUALLY TWO LITTLE STRIPS OF CITY STREET THAT WERE VACATED AND THAT WILL END UP BEING SOLD TO THE DEVELOPER. THEY WEREN'T NEEDED. AND SO THEY WERE VACATED BY AN ORDINANCE WHICH IS EITHER HAS BEEN OR IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY RECORDER. SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT. THERE'S LIMITATIONS AS IT SHOWS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE THERE. WHERE LIKE I SAY, THERE'S THAT 50 YEAR EXCEPTION. ADVERSE POSSESSION MAY NOT BE USED AGAINST THE CITY STREET. SOMEBODY MIGHT TRY TO SAY, OH, WELL, I'VE USED IT AS IF IT'S MINE. WELL GOOD TRY. BUT NO, THAT DOESN'T WORK ON ON CITIES. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO ABANDONMENT, HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEDICATED, WHETHER IT WAS BY PUBLIC USE, A PLAT OR A DEED, IT'S ALL TREATED THE SAME WHEN YOU GO TO ABANDON IT OR VACATE IT. THEN AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE. REVERSION. RIGHT? BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT WE'RE SO USED TO YOU SELL REAL PROPERTY OWNER A HAS IT, HE SELLS IT TO OWNER B, NOW OWNER B HAS IT AND OWNER A DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING NOW. RIGHT. THAT'S THE TYPICAL WAY MOST LAND IS, IS SOLD. AND BUT WHEN IT COMES TO STREETS IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE STREET IS DEDICATED TO CITY. AS LONG AS IT IS A STREET. IF IT [00:25:02] STOPS BEING A STREET, THE THEORY IS TYPICALLY IT COMES BACK TO WHOEVER GAVE THE STREET. IF IT'S A SINGLE DEVELOPER THAT OWNED ALL OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER. IF IT'S THERE'S PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET. BUT THE GENERAL RULE IS THE HALF AND HALF REVERSION, SO THAT THE LAND ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET GOES TO THE OWNER OR OWNERS ON THIS SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE GOES TO THE OWNERS ON THAT SIDE. THAT'S THE GENERAL RULE. THERE'S NO REVERSION, WHICH IS THE CASE WITH MERCED CREEK. THERE'S NO REVERSION BACK TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? THOSE TWO LITTLE STRIPS OF STREET THAT THE CITY COUNCIL JUST VACATED WERE OWNED BY THE CITY. AND THEY AND BEFORE THEY BECAME CITY STREET, THEY WERE JUST OWNED BY THE CITY IN GENERAL. SO THERE'S NO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR IT TO REVERT BACK TO, BECAUSE THE CITY OWNED IT. SO CITY STILL OWNS IT. AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY WAS ABLE TO SELL IT. SO AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF A I CALL IT A 100% REVERSION, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF CASES WHERE THAT WENT TO THE STATE COURT OF APPEALS WHERE. A SUBDIVISION WAS CREATED AND A STREET WAS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE SUBDIVISION, COMPLETELY PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION. AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PARCEL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET THAT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE SUBDIVISION. IN THIS CASE, IT WAS THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF THE CITY. COUNTY GOES TO VACATE THAT STREET. THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT WASN'T PART OF THE SUBDIVISION SAID, HEY, I SHOULD GET HALF. THERE'S THE HALF AND HALF RULE. AND BUT THE COURT OF APPEALS SAID NO, BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T YOUR PROPERTY, DIDN'T GIVE UP ANY LAND TOWARDS THAT STREET. IT ALL CAME OUT OF THIS SUBDIVISION. SO THE OWNER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET GETS ALL OF IT, GETS 100% OF IT. BECAUSE. AND THE SAME COULD BE TRUE IF THERE WERE OWNERS AND OWNER ON ONE SIDE GAVE UP 75% OF THE LAND, 25% ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR THE CITY STREET OR THE COUNTY STREET. AND IF IT WAS NO LONGER USED, IT WOULD GO BACK IN THE SAME PROPORTIONALITY. SO. THE WHOLE IDEA TOO IS YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SUCCESSORS AND INTEREST. SO IF I OWN THE PROPERTY TODAY AND MY GRANDSON OWNS IT 70 YEARS FROM NOW, AFTER I PASS AWAY, MY GRANDSON COUNTS AS IF HE'S ME, RIGHT? HE'S THE SAME OWNER THAT'S THE SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST OR A SUBSEQUENT OWNER IS HOW WE APPLY THESE RULES. KIND OF WENT THROUGH A LOT, REALLY FAST. WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? YEAH, I'VE JUST SEEN SOMETHING IN THE NEWS WITH THE PROPERTY UP IN FRUIT HEIGHT, NOT FARMING THAT AREA. THAT GUY THAT OWNS THE VINEYARDS TAKES FRUIT. HOW HE'S PUTTING HIS PROPERTY INTO A TRUST IN PERPETUITY SO IT CAN NEVER BE DEVELOPED. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ALONG THIS SAME LINE OF PROTECTING PROPERTY SO THAT IT'S ALWAYS A FRUIT FARM, RIGHT? YEAH. WHEN I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF MARRIOTT-SLATERVILLE, THEY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE PROPERTY STAY LONG TERM FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES, OPEN SPACE AND WHATEVER. AND THIS I HELPED THE CITY ACQUIRE SIX ACRE PARCEL RIGHT NEXT TO A CONFLUENCE OF THE OGDEN AND WEBER RIVERS. THAT WAS IN MARRIOTT-SLATERVILLE. WE TURNED IT INTO A NATURE PARK. THE CITY OWNED THE PROPERTY. THE CITY COUNCIL DID NOT TRUST FUTURE CITY COUNCILS TO NOT DEVELOP IT. AND WE FOUND TWO LAND TRUSTS. ONE WAS THE MARRIOTT HERITAGE FOUNDATION. JUST A JUST A COMPANY. THAT THAT'S ONE OF THEIR MAIN PURPOSES WAS TO SAVE LAND FOR OPEN SPACE. AND THEN ANOTHER LAND TRUST WAS THE UTAH DIVISION OF. NATURAL RESOURCES, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES. THEY HAVE A DIVISION THAT HANDLES THOSE KINDS OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. BUT BOTH OF THOSE LAND TRUSTS HOLD CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, WHICH BASICALLY IS THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. SO EVEN IF A UNANIMOUS FUTURE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO CHANGE THAT SIX ACRES, THEY COULDN'T THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT. BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT EVEN IF YOU HAVE FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP, IT'S SUBJECT TO EVERYTHING YOU RECORD AGAINST IT. AND IN THIS CASE, THOSE TWO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ARE SO PERVASIVE AND TAKE AWAY ALL OF THE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT IT'LL ALWAYS BE A NATURE PARK. SO YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE IT'S TIME TO START. I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE [GENERAL MEETING 6:00 p.m.] [00:30:05] PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 5TH. CHAIR THOMAS IS JOINING US ON ZOOM. IS THAT CORRECT, CHAIR THOMAS. I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING FROM CHAIR THOMAS. YES. OH, THERE THERE YOU ARE. THANK YOU. AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROBERTS HAS BEEN EXCUSED. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS ELECTED TO LEAD US IN THAT PLEDGE. PLEASE STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE. READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. [1. Approve Minutes from July 15, 2025] THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 15TH, 2025. COMMISSIONER ALLEN, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH I SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. IT CARRIES SIX COMMISSIONERS IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THOMAS, PLEASE [2. Truck Ranch Pylon Sign; 5701 West 9000 South; Conditional Use Permit for a Pylon Sign; SC-3 Zone; Wagner Core, LLC/Jadon Wagner (applicant) [Megan Jensen #34443; parcel 26-02-426-006]] FEEL FREE TO UNMUTE. IF YOU ARE A DISSENTING VOTE. FIRST EVENING. THIS FIRST HEARING THIS EVENING IS PUBLIC HEARING WITH FINAL ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE TRUCK RANCH PYLON SIGN. AND JADEN WAGNER IS PRESENT TO PRESENT THIS TO US. SO REPRESENTING JADEN, I'M THE APPLICANT, I'M MATT GILBERT. SO I THINK I WAS THE APPLICANT ON THE APPLICATION. WE FILLED IT OUT. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LARRY GARDNER ON THIS. PERFECT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU MATT. SO BUT JADEN, OBVIOUSLY THE OWNER OF TRUCK RANCH, THE SIGN IS OVER 200FT■!S AND IT'S FREEWAY ORIENTED. IT'S LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF 90TH SOUTH AND REDWOOD ROAD. SO IN WORKING WITH LARRY, WE'RE APPROACHING YOU. THE SIGN AND THE MAJORITY OF THE SIGN, THERE'S. 36FT■!S OF THE SIGN IS FOR TRUCK RANCH. AND THEN THE SIGN MEETS THE HEIGHT MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. IT'S JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SIGN IS 377FT■!S. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER ALAN, COULD YOU SHARE WITH US A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ELECTRONIC PORTION OF THE SIGN WILL BE USED FOR MAINLY ADVERTISING FOR THE TRUCK RANCH TO GAIN FREEWAY EXPOSURE. WELL, GUESS MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR EXPOSURE. AND ALSO FROM 90TH SOUTH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE DISPLAY SOUNDS, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT BY 16 DISPLAY SOUNDS BIG. IT REALLY IS NOT THAT BIG OF A SIGN. AND IT'S FOR VIEWING DISTANCE, WHICH AT THAT CORNER, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT QUITE A GREAT VIEWING DISTANCE. SO LET ME JUST CORRECT. IT'S ON IT'S NOT ON REDWOOD ROAD, IT'S ON MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR 90TH SOUTH. CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO NORTHWEST CORNER. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YES ONE. DID YOU SAY THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS 377? THAT'S WHAT LARRY CALCULATED IT AS. OKAY. IN OUR IN OUR REPORT, WE HAD A NOTE OF 315FT■!S. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. SO I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH MY NOTES BECAUSE I THINK THIS HAS BEEN SITTING OUT HERE FOR FOUR MONTHS SINCE I TURNED IT IN. AND SO WE'LL GO 315 OKAY. THANK YOU. IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THE END, WE'LL BRING YOU UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. MEGAN, YOU HAVE THIS. THANK YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SIGN LOCATION IS GOING TO BE AT THE CORNER OF MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR AND 90TH SOUTH. AND THIS IS CONSIDERED A FREEWAY ORIENTED SIGN SINCE IT'S ON THE PREMISE OF TRUCK RANCH. IT'S ADVERTISING FOR TRUCK RANCH AND IT'S ALONG MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR. IT'S ZONED SC THREE, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL ZONE, A LARGER COMMERCIAL ZONE. THIS IS JUST A EXISTING STREET VIEW FOR CONTEXT. SO IT'LL GO KIND OF ON THAT CORNER THERE YOU CAN SEE. THIS IS THE ELEVATION DRAWING. [00:35:07] SO IT'LL HAVE THE STATIC SIGN OF TRUCK RANCH ON TOP. AND THEN THE AREA FOR THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGES. AND THE OVERALL HEIGHT IS 25FT ON THE OVERALL AREA, 315 THAT INCLUDES THE POLE COVER. AND THE ELECTRONIC PORTION IS 178FT■!S. SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER CALCULATION OF THE AREA. AND HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. IT'S KIND OF ZOOMED UP ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. SO THEY HAVE 18IN BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT IT'S SHOWING ACTUALLY FROM THE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S A TEN FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THERE. SO IT'LL BE OUTSIDE OF THAT. NEXT STEPS IS JUST FINAL APPROVAL HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEN TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, WHICH IS STAFF APPROVAL. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THESE SIX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM OUR CODE ON BILLBOARDS THAT ARE DOING ELECTRONIC MESSAGING. THIS IS MOSTLY JUST CONDITIONS RELATED TO HOW THEY'RE. BASICALLY JUST TO MINIMIZE ANY SORT OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE DISTRACTING FOR TRAVELERS ON MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR, THINGS LIKE KIND OF LIGHTING, HOW BRIGHT IT IS, HOW FAST THE MESSAGES ARE CHANGING, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS PROPOSED, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER ALLEN? I THOUGHT THAT THE STAFF REPORT WAS VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER. THANK YOU. A QUESTION ON THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. ARE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE CODE, OR DO WE FIND THAT WE WORK WITH THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR BILLBOARDS IN THE CODE. SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE APPLIED TO THIS SIGN, WHICH IS NOT CONSIDERED A BILLBOARD. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, I BELIEVE YOU PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE YOUR HAND TO STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED. THANKS, JULIE. ALL RIGHT. SINCE THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THIS ITEM AND BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PIE LIME PIE LAWN SIGN LOCATED AT 5701 WEST 90TH SOUTH. WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? AND IT CARRIES SIX VOTES IN FAVOR. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS [3. Salt Depot (West Storage Yard); 5510 West Wells Park Road; Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage & operations, salt/sand piles in the Drinking Water Source Protection Overlay Zone and modification to design standards for loading bay doors facing the street; M-1 Zone; Steve Mills (applicant) [Mark Forsythe/Todd Johnson/Dave Murphy/Paul Brockbank #34764, #34763; parcel 26-12-102-015]] EVENING IS THE SALT DEPOT IN THE WEST STORAGE YARD AT 5110 WEST WELLS PARK ROAD, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND OPERATIONS IN SALT SAND PILES IN THE DRINKING WATER SOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE, AND MODIFICATION TO DESIGN STANDARDS FOR LOADING BAY DOORS FACING THE STREET IN AN M1 ZONE. STEVE MILLS IS THE APPLICANT. IS STEVE HERE THIS EVENING? COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM AND EXPLAIN YOUR REQUEST. MY NAME IS STEVE MILLS FROM SAM'S BARNS. I'M ACTUALLY THE CONTRACTOR ON THE JOB. I GOT THE OWNER BACK HERE. IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM, YOU CAN TALK TO HIM AS WELL. BUT THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST JUST EXPLAIN YOUR APPLICATION. AND SO SALT DEPOT, THEY HAVE 3 OR 4 LOTS. THEY'RE ALL WITH DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. AND THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ALREADY FOR THEIR EXISTING OPERATION. AND THE OPEN. WELL IT USED TO BE OPEN SO SALT STORAGE. BUT WE HAVE NOW COVERED ALL THOSE ALSO. SO THE PERMIT IS ACTUALLY CHANGED A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE SINCE DARREN ORIGINALLY GOT THE CONDITIONAL [00:40:04] USE PERMIT. THIS THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS TO THE WEST OF THE EXISTING SALT DEPOT OPERATION, DARREN BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND WE'RE PUTTING A IT'S ABOUT A JUST UNDER A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THERE STRICTLY FOR INDOOR STORAGE. I'LL BE IT'LL BE STORING LIKE COAL SALT, THOSE KIND OF PRODUCTS THAT CAN'T GET WET OR HAVE ANY KIND OF MOISTURE CONTENT. SO AS FAR AS THE WHOLE REST OF THE PROPERTY GOES, IT'LL BE ASPHALTED. NO OUTDOOR STORAGE, NO NOTHING. THANK YOU GEORGE. SO THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING YOU UP IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END. THANK YOU. AND, MARK, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THANK YOU. CAN WE GO FORWARD JUST A FEW SLIDES. OKAY. KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING. YEP. PERFECT. RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO GO BACK ONE ONE SLIDE. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS LOCATED IN AN M1 ZONE WHICH IS A LIGHT MANUFACTURING ZONE. THIS IS ON THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY. BUT PRETTY MUCH JUST LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDINGS. EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS ALL INDUSTRIAL MOSTLY WAREHOUSE OUTDOOR STORAGE. SO PRETTY SIMILAR TYPE OF BUSINESS THERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW THIS IS ALSO LOCATED IN WHAT'S CALLED THE DRINKING WATER SOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE. AND WHAT THIS OVERLAY ZONE DOES IS WE HAVE A FEW WELLS OUT THERE, SPECIFICALLY FOUR OF THEM THAT ARE ACTUAL AQUIFERS THAT ARE USED FOR TO PROVIDE CULINARY WATER TO THE CITY. AND SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT THOSE WELLS. AND SO THIS OVER THE PURPOSE OF THIS OVERLAY IS REALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GROUNDWATER IS PROTECTED AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ANY CHEMICALS OR, OR SALT OR SAND OR THINGS THAT CAN LEACH INTO THE SOIL. AND THEN EVENTUALLY, OVER TIME, DRAIN TOWARDS THOSE WELLS. SO, SO AS FAR AS THIS PROPERTY IS CONCERNED, THIS HAS BEEN WHAT'S CALLED ZONE A. ZONE THREE, WHICH IS A THREE YEAR TIME OF TRAVEL ZONE, MEANING THAT ONCE ANY CHEMICALS LEACH INTO THE SOIL, IT TAKES ABOUT THREE YEARS FOR THEM TO REACH THAT WELL, THAT CLOSEST WELL, WHICH IS WELL BEFORE THERE NOW. BUT YEAH. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO TO IN ORDER TO PROTECT THOSE WELLS, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE PRETTY MUCH FROM BUILDING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY IS ALL GOING TO BE PAID PAVED ASPHALT. SO IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD IMPERMEABLE SURFACE TO PROTECT THAT FROM ANY VEHICLE, CHEMICALS OR SALT GETTING INTO THE GROUNDWATER. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SITE IT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE FROM THIS PHOTO, BUT BASICALLY THE DRAINAGE WILL ALL ENTIRE SECRETARY PRETTY MUCH TO THE EAST TOWARD THAT GUTTER THERE. AND THEN THAT WILL THEN DRAIN SOUTH TOWARDS TOWARDS THE STORM DRAIN, WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH AN OIL WATER SEPARATOR THAT CAN FILTER OUT ANY, ANY SALT OR SAND OR OR ANY VEHICLE CHEMICALS THAT COULD GET INTO THE CITY STORM DRAIN SYSTEM. SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE FILTERED OUT BEFORE IT GOES INTO TO THE CITY SYSTEMS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THEN LOOKING AT SCREENING. SO AGAIN THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AS WELL. AND SO SCREENING IS A BIG PART OF THAT. AND THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY ALREADY SCREENED WITH AN EXISTING SOLID METAL WALL ALONG BOTH THE SOUTH EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE WHOLE LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN. AS FAR AS NEW SCREENING GOES, THE ONLY THING IN THE SOUTH END IS THE GATES. THOSE ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE SOLID METAL PANELS, SO THEY'LL NEED TO FIND SOME WAY TO RETROFIT THOSE. AND THEN THERE'S THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE. THAT'LL JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME OPAQUE SLATS ALONG THERE. SO NOTHING TOO TOO CRAZY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING PRETTY MUCH SERVE THE SAME PRIMARY PURPOSE, WHICH AGAIN, IS TO PROTECT THE GROUNDWATER FROM CONTAMINATION. SO THOSE [00:45:05] CONDITIONS INCLUDE MAKING SURE THAT ALL MOTOR VEHICLES ARE PAVED SURFACE. SO WITH 81% OF THE SITE BEING PAVED, THAT SHOULD SHOULD BE PRETTY GOOD. THE OTHER IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT SALT AND SAND PILES STAY INSIDE A FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREN'T BLOWING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GETTING INTO THE GROUNDWATER ELSEWHERE. SO KEEPING THOSE INSIDE THE BUILDINGS IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS FOLLOWING BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FROM THE 29TH 2019 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THEY HAD SUBMITTED THOSE BACK IN 2022, ACTUALLY, WHICH THE CITY REVIEWED AND FOUND THOSE TO BE ACCEPTABLE. SO THIS SO THOSE ARE REALLY JUST KIND OF A CARRYOVER. THEN THE OTHER CONDITIONS ARE TO PROTECT THE STORMWATER SYSTEM OR THE CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM FROM CONTAMINATION. SO AGAIN MAKING SURE THERE'S OIL WATER SEPARATORS, CLEAN OUTS, OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT SALT ISN'T GETTING INTO THOSE MAIN LINES. AND THEN THE REST OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL JUST RELATE TO SCREENING. LIKE I SAID, WITH WITH THE FRONT GATES, MAKING SURE THOSE ARE SOLID METAL. AND THEN THE OPAQUE SLABS ALONG THE FENCE. SO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO NEXT STEPS ON THIS ARE TO JUST FINISH REVIEWING THE AMENDED SITE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN REVIEW BY STAFF. SO ONCE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOOD WITH THAT SHOULD BE GETTING THAT APPROVED. AND THEN ALSO TO GET THE BUILDING PERMIT APPROVED THROUGH THE BUILDING SAFETY DEPARTMENT. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF BOTH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE MODIFICATION OF DESIGN STANDARDS. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THANK YOU MARK. ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANY MARK. IF WE HAVE ANY WE'LL ASK YOU AS WE GO ALONG. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, PLEASE STAR NINE TO RAISE YOUR HAND AND STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. OH, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNMUTE. SORRY. THANKS, JULIE. NOBODY HAS THEIR HANDS RAISED. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ALAN. WELL, THE STAFF REPORT WAS ON THIS ONE ALSO VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER. ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD, ALL THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD, AT LEAST INITIALLY FROM THE PROCESS. I THOUGHT THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE ARE GOING TO WORK GREAT. SO I, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION. IF NOBODY HAS A COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. BASED ON INFORMATION, FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND OPERATIONS IN SALT SAND PILES IN THE DRINKING WATER SOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE FOR SALT DEPOT, LOCATED AT 5510 WEST WELLS PARK ROAD IN THE M1 ZONE. WITH CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES WITH SIX VOTES. COMMISSIONER ALAN, BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE MODIFICATION TO DESIGN STANDARDS FOR SALT DEPOT STORAGE YARD LOCATED AT 5510 WEST WELLS PARK ROAD AND THE M1 ZONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. I SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED. AND IT CARRIES WITH SIX VOTES IN FAVOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE [4. South Valley Water Reclamation Facility (SVWRF); 7495 South 1300 West; Recommendation to the City Council for a Future Land Use Map Amendment for 6.508 acres from Business Research Park to Public Facilities or other designation and Rezone 6.508 acres from BR-P (Business Research Park) Zone to P-F (Public Facilities) Zone or other zoning district; SVWRF/Taigon Worthen, P.E. (applicant) [Ray McCandless/Todd Johnson/Angelica Haro/Paul Brockbank #34548, 34549; parcel 21-26-306-001]] PUBLIC HEARING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. OUR FIRST IS THE SOUTH WATER WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, 7495 SOUTH 1300 WEST. RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR 6.508 ACRES FROM BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK TO PUBLIC FACILITIES OR OTHER DESIGNATION, AND REZONE 6.508 ACRES FROM BR P BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK, ZONE P F PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONE OR OTHER ZONING DISTRICT. AND LET'S SEE, WE HAVE THE SOUTH VALLEY WATER CONSERVANCY DISTRICT OR RECLAMATION FACILITY HERE TO PRESENT. GETTING ALL THE ACRONYMS RIGHT THERE. PLEASE COME UP AND PRESENT YOUR [00:50:02] APPLICATION. THANK YOU. I'M TEGAN WORTHEN, I'M THE FACILITY ENGINEER AT THE SOUTH VALLEY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. AND THE APPLICANT ON THE REZONING REQUEST. SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT SOUTH VALLEY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY IS A PART OF THE CITY AS AN APPENDAGE. OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS A MEMBER FROM THE CITY THAT SITS ON THAT. HE'S IN ATTENDANCE HERE TODAY. DAVE MURPHY WITH HIS ALTERNATE, GREG DAVENPORT. AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE DO AT THE FACILITY, THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN APPROVING THOSE, ESPECIALLY CAPITAL LEVEL THINGS THAT REQUIRE CAPITAL FUNDING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND THEN ON THE DAY TO DAY BASIS, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR OWN STAFF WHERE WE TAKE CARE OF THINGS. SO THE ZONE ON THIS PARCEL CAME TO US AS A SURPRISE, BECAUSE EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'VE DONE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ZONED. SO WE FOUND THIS OUT WHEN WE WERE SUBMITTING PLANS FOR OUR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHICH WE WANTED TO RELOCATE OUTSIDE OF OUR PROCESS AREAS. AND RAY, ARE YOU HANDLING THE SLIDES THERE? CAN YOU GO TO THE OVERVIEW, JUST WHO'S WHO'S GOT THE SLIDES? LET'S GO TO THE OVERVIEW FOR THE WHOLE PLANT. RIGHT THERE. GO BACK. THAT'LL THAT'LL WORK OKAY. SO WHEN WE SUBMITTED PLANS 13TH WEST IS ELEVATED RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE FACILITY WHICH IS DOWN LOWER. AND IT SLOPES OFF QUITE A BIT BETWEEN 13TH WEST DOWN TO THE CANAL. SO WE SUBMITTED THE PLANS WITH A MINIMAL SETBACK OF 30FT, COMPLIANT WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING. AND THAT WAS DONE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING IN AS MUCH FILL AND WE CAN UTILIZE THE EXISTING SEWER IN THE ROADWAY THERE. DURING THAT PROCESS IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THIS WAS NOT ZONED. IT WAS ACTUALLY ZONED B.R.B. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION WAS TO CHANGE THAT. IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT THE ZONING FOR THAT PARCEL SHOULD BE PH. IT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT PH IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE, AND THAT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY, FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND THAT'S SOLELY WHY OUR FACILITY EXISTS, IS TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY, TO TREAT THEIR SEWER AND TO RECLAIM THAT WATER AND SEND IT BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT IN A CLEAN CONDITION. SO DURING THE PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL, THE ZONING OPTION APPEAL WAS BROUGHT UP. BUT THAT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN PH. IT DOESN'T ALLOW. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS BESIDES JUST THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND THAT'S IN OUR APPLICATION THAT WE EXPLAINED. THERE'S OTHER BUILDINGS WE'D LIKE TO PUT UP THERE. ONE IS SHIPPING, RECEIVING A MAINTENANCE SHOP, A VEHICLE FACILITY SHOP. RIGHT. AND A WAREHOUSE CURRENTLY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THOSE FUNCTIONS WE ALLOW INTO THE FACILITY STRICTLY FROM A SECURITY POINT OF VIEW. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE FUNCTIONS BACK OUTSIDE OF OUR PROCESS AREA, BRING THEM UP TO 1300 WEST, RIGHT. THAT MAKES US MORE SECURE. THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS IF WE GO TO THE PH AND WE CAN REGAIN JUST THAT PHYSICAL SETBACK OF 30FT FROM 50FT, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC EXPENDITURE JUST ON FILL AND THEN ACCOMMODATING EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT SENSE, JUST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SUBMITTING FOR THE OTHER FACILITIES, MORE THAN LIKELY, IF WE BUILT THEM CLOSER TO THE CANAL, WE WOULD END UP WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, SEWERING THEM DOWN THROUGH ACROSS THE CANAL AND NOT BRINGING THAT STUFF UP TO 1300 WEST. BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO DO THAT IF WE WANTED TO, TO BRING THEM UP TO 1300 WEST. ALSO, WHILE THIS DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE COMPLETE VIEW, THIS SCREEN RIGHT HERE, THE FACILITY RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY BORDERED BY RESIDENTIAL ZONED AREAS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH WEST RIGHT THERE JUST ACROSS THE CANAL. ALL OF THAT GOES STRAIGHT ACROSS FROM ALL OF OUR PROCESS AREAS. THAT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NORTH. TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WERE RECENTLY APPROVED, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE ALL IN PURPLE, KIND OF THERE ON THE SOUTHWEST AND THEN ACROSS THE RIVER OVER IN MIDVALE CITY. THEY'VE GOT MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS APPROVED ALONG OUR BOUNDARIES. SO THIS THE IDEA OF TRYING TO KEEP A BUFFER AND REZONE THIS AS A POA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE TO US FOR OUR USES. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR LIKE SHIPPING AND RECEIVING OR VEHICLE SHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY THE REQUEST WAS FOR PH. AND IN TERMS OF LIKE JUST THE FACT THAT WE ARE A WASTEWATER TREATMENT [00:55:03] FACILITY, WE LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE ARE A PART OF THE CITY, SO WE DO A LOT OF THINGS. I EXPLAINED THIS TO CITY COUNCIL. WE DO A LOT OF EFFORT ON ODOR CONTROL JUST BY THE NATURE OF OUR WORK, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. WE DO. WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST SPECIFIC TO THAT TO HELP CONTAIN THOSE ODORS AND DO THAT TYPE OF THING, BECAUSE WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN. SO AND OUR USES FOR THIS PARCEL ARE THEY WILL NOT BE INTENDED TO BE PROCESSED USES, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUPPORT FUNCTIONS FOR THE FACILITY. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION? NO. WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP IF NEED BE AT THE END. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SEE, RAY, YOU HAVE THIS ONE. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO AGAIN I THINK I DID A GREAT JOB OF JUST KIND OF EXPLAINING AND GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHAT THE REQUEST IS. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST IT'S ZONED BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK. IT'S ALSO DESIGNATED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK AS WELL. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THAT TO PUBLIC FACILITIES TO ALLOW FOR THE USES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, NOT THE PRE-APPLICATION BUT THE PRE-MEETING. SO. THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNATED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK FOR A LOT OF YEARS. I THINK IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL 2012 GENERAL PLAN, AND THAT PROBABLY PREDATED THAT AS WELL. BUT WHEN YOU THINK OF THE CLASSIC RESEARCH PARK YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT THE YOU OF US GOT WITH THE LARGE BUILDINGS, LARGE OPEN SPACES. THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL IN THAT IT'S LOCATED ON TEMPLE DRIVE, WHICH OR 1300 WEST, WHICH IS A COLLECTOR STREET. IT'S KIND OF BURIED BACK IN THERE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD KIND OF THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF A RESEARCH PARK. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS APPROPRIATE, TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, IF YOU CAN SEE IT DEVELOPING OUT AS A BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THEIR HOMES THAT ARE ON THREE SIDES OF IT, THERE'S MORE HOMES ON AS TEIGEN INDICATED OVER IN MIDVALE TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH, THEIR HOMES THAT BASICALLY SURROUND THIS USE. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK OR ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THAT THE BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK DESIGNATION IS ACTUALLY A GOOD FIT FOR THAT THAT AREA. AND IF NOT, IS IT MORE APPROPRIATE, IN YOUR OPINION, TO ZONE IT TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES DESIGNATION OR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DESIGNATION, AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT WENT TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING? THE CITY COUNCIL WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES DESIGNATION, AS THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE FACILITIES ONTO THIS PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT SOUTH VALLEY'S INTENT TO DO SO. BUT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD AS MAYBE OPENING THE DOOR TO ALLOWING MORE INTENSIVE KINDS OF USES, PUBLIC PUBLIC FACILITY USES ONTO THAT PROPERTY AND AFFECTING ADJOINING RESIDENCES. THEY WERE THINKING THAT MAYBE A BETTER FIT FOR THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT AT DOING THE. OR STILL LOOKING AT DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES EITHER WAY. BUT WHAT THIS WOULD DO IF IT WERE DESIGNATED AS EITHER A PUBLIC FACILITIES OR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, WOULD REDUCE THAT FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR THEM. SO IT'S STILL THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, STILL A PERMITTED USE IN THE BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK ZONE AS WELL. BUT I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL WAS WAS INTERESTED IN MAYBE AS A AN INTERIM THING SINCE THE, AS AN INTERIM THING IS TO MAYBE IT'S ON A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND THEN WHEN THE USES ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE COULD COME BACK AND THEN LOOK AT ZONING. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ALONG THE SAME LINES AS THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE TO GO TO A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DESIGNATION TO ALLOW THAT REDUCTION IN SETBACK. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. SO [01:00:05] BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT AND WHY THEY WANT A PH ZONE, DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR MIND OR DO YOU HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? STILL, THE ISSUE THAT THAT STAFF HAS IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WE'VE HEARD THAT IT WOULD BE THAT THE FUTURE USES ON THE PROPERTY MIGHT BE FOR A DUMP STATION AND THEN MAYBE SOME OFFICES OR NOT SOME OFFICES, BUT MAINTENANCE FACILITIES UP ON THAT PROPERTY. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE WOULD BE LOCATED. IS IT NOT PROPOSED AT THIS, THIS POINT. SO I THINK IF YOU WERE TO I JUST I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF PROTECTING THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL USES, PROBABLY THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO. I DID HAVE ANOTHER ONE. GO AHEAD. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO THE APPLICANT IF, IF THEY WERE TO SATISFY THE CONCERNS OF MAKING IT A PH ZONE, IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THEM TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR PH? IF WE GIVE THEM POA TODAY, THERE WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE THE APPLICATION FEES. HOW MUCH IS THAT? I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OKAY. BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO DO ANOTHER SURVEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ALAN? SO I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION JUMPING ON THAT APPLICATION FEES. ARE WE TALKING HUNDREDS OR THE THOUSANDS? IT'S IN THE THOUSAND. YEAH, IT'S ABOUT 23, $2,400. IT'S JUST I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP. I JUST AS SOON TO SEE EVERYTHING THERE. SO WHAT IS IT THAT UNDERSTANDING THE SCENARIO AND THE REASONING. WHAT IS IT THAT OF THESE SUPPORT FACILITIES THAT CANNOT GO ON APPEAL THAT COULD GO IN A PH. WITH THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO THERE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DUMP STATION AND WHAT'S WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT, BUT THAT THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. AND JUST MAYBE REITERATE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE, WE'VE GOT ROADS ON TWO SIDES AND THEN A PRETTY GOOD SETBACK ON THAT. THE SENIOR HOUSING AREA, WHAT KIND OF DISTURBANCES ARE WE EXPECTING? I'M NOT SURE. THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ROAD THAT WAS PROPOSED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE ON THAT SOUTH SIDE AS, AS WELL FOR A SECOND ACCESS. LET ME MAYBE REPHRASE THAT. WHAT WHAT DISTURBANCES IS STAFF EXPECTING THAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR A POA INSTEAD OF A PH. I NOT MAKING SENSE. I'M SORRY. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISTURBANCE. WELL, THERE'S A THERE'S A DESIRE TO LET'S DO APPEAL NOW PAY LATER APPLICANT SAYING LET'S JUST GO STRAIGHT TO A PH. WHAT ARE THE DISTURBANCES THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY TRYING TO AVOID OR TO GET AWAY FROM BY GOING TO THE POA AND THE INTERIM? I THINK IT'S JUST THE INTENSITY OF THE POTENTIAL USES ON THE PROPERTY. THAT'S IT. DO YOU FORESEE A SITUATION WHERE IF WE WANT APPEAL NOW AND THEN THEY CAME BACK IN FIVE YEARS AND SAID, WE'RE READY TO PUT THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, THE SHIPPING, RECEIVING, ETC. THE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST GOING TO A PH. I WOULD THINK AT THAT POINT IT WOULD JUST BE, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE SEE COME THROUGH. AND HOW THAT AND HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS. THAT COULD BE NOISE. IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS. TRAFFIC. SO IF I COULD ALSO ADD, SINCE I WAS AT THE COMMITTEE THE WHOLE MEETING AND WAS LISTENING TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THE COUNCIL BROUGHT UP, I THINK PART OF THE STRUGGLE THAT THE COUNCIL WAS HAVING, AND I HESITATE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. BUT FROM WHAT I WAS LISTENING TO, THE PH ZONE IS THAT IT'S A BLUNT INSTRUMENT. IT'S A BLUNT ZONING TOOL. THERE'S NOT A LOT TO IT. THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT IFS. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CONTROL TO POTENTIALLY MITIGATE THESE IMPACTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, COMMISSIONER. AND SO. GIVEN THE TWO OPTIONS OF PH VERSUS POA WITH THE TWO EXISTING TOOLS, THEY OPTED FOR THE LESS FLEXIBLE OPTION OR AT LEAST THE OPTION TO [01:05:01] REVISIT THE ISSUE IN THE FUTURE WHEN OTHER PLANS ARE BROUGHT, MORE CONCRETE PLANS ARE BROUGHT TO THE TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. AND I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE APPLICATION IN FRONT OF US. BUT MR. DAVENPORT AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE A THIRD OPTION THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER IS JUST LOOKING AT THOSE TWO TOOLS. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT MAY BE THAT IT'S TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PH ZONE, TO LOOK AT OTHER, OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL. AND WE I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THE TIMELINESS OF THIS APPLICATION. RIGHT. SO THAT THAT WAS JUST A POTENTIAL THOUGHT THAT, THAT THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. BUT. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH AND JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND PROCEDURALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE REZONE IT AS POA ADMINISTRATION BUILDING IS GOING IN, WE RECOGNIZE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY ON HERE. WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THAT POINT? WE'RE EITHER GOING TO SAY NO, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT AT POA, AND YOU CAN'T DO A MAINTENANCE FACILITY, OR WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A PH. I DON'T SEE A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD SAY, WELL, WE'LL SWITCH IT TO A PH. IF YOU MAKE THESE MODIFICATIONS ON THE PLAT, THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHOLLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN SAY. YEAH. SO THE TIMING ASPECT. SO ONE TOOL WE CAN'T DO AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE IN TRAINING IS ZONING CONDITIONS. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE DEALT WITH IT IN THE PAST YEARS. IF YOU GO BACK A WAYS THAT WILL GRANT THE REZONE, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THESE ITEMS IN THE LAND USE CHART. SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF EVERYTHING EXCEPT, RIGHT. THAT'S NOT LEGAL. WE STILL HAVE SOME THAT EXIST, BUT WE HAVEN'T PROLIFERATED ANY NEW ONES FOR A WHILE. AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE'VE GOTTEN RID OF THAT. THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION THOUGH, WHERE ADDITIONAL OPTION WHERE YOU COULD CREATE A NEW ZONE IN THE MEANTIME, RIGHT. IF YOU DID POA, FOR INSTANCE, NOW AND YOU STARTED WORKING ON IT, MAYBE IT'S A LIMITED ZONE, A WHOLE NEW ZONE, AND IT HAS A LOT OF THE SAME STUFF THAT'S IN THE ZONE, BUT IT MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE THE STUFF THAT WE DON'T THAT THE CITY DOESN'T WANT THERE, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE FACILITY COULD POTENTIALLY NEED THAT THE CITY IS OKAY WITH. AND THAT COULD BE THE NEW PH LIMITED OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THE NEW ZONE. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF YOU BEING A RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL HAVING FINAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CITY CODE IS NEW ZONES CAN IN FACT BE CREATED. AND SOMETIMES WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT AS LIKELY TO BE USED IN MORE THAN ONE PLACE, LIKE WE HAVE A PC ZONE THAT ALBEIT IT'S A VERY LARGE ZONE, BUT IT'S ONLY IN ONE PLACE IN THE CITY. BUT IT FUNCTIONS WELL BECAUSE THERE WAS A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR THAT AREA OF THE CITY THERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OR NORTHWEST CORNER. SO THERE'S JUST THERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT FOR YOU. WE DON'T HAVE TO THINK INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE BOX. WE CAN JUST CREATE A NEW BOX. SO OKAY. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH SO I'M NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PH AND THE POA AND THE SETBACKS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? THE SETBACKS AND THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONES ARE THE SAME. IT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS ON THE CURRENT ZONING. IT'S SET AT 50 ON THE BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK ZONE. IT'S SET AT 50FT. SO WHETHER YOU WENT TO A PUBLIC FACILITIES OR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONE, THAT FRONT YARD SETBACK IS THE SAME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RAY, COULD YOU BRING UP THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THIS AREA? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THE DROP OFF FROM THE COMMUNITY IN PURPLE TO THE SOUTH? SEE, IS THERE A TOPOGRAPHY, ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY HILLY AREA. I LIVE TO THE NORTH OF THIS AND TRAVEL THIS STREET WHEN IT'S NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS HARD. SORRY. IS THE MAYOR HERE? SORRY? AND TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE PH ZONE. I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT'S TO THE EAST. IT JUST SEEMS LOGICAL TO KEEP IT ALL THE SAME IN MY LOGICAL BRAIN. BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THE TOPOGRAPHY JUST TO SEE HOW THIS IMPACTS THOSE COMMUNITIES TO THE NORTH THAT ARE DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. IF YOU HAVE THAT. OKAY. GOOGLE MAPS ANYWAY, ANY OTHER [01:10:10] COMMENTS? WE'LL PUT THIS INTO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YEAH, I, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME OR NOT, BUT I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO BRING THE APPLICANT BACK UP AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. I MEAN, THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO DO A MAINTENANCE FACILITY THERE BECAUSE OF THEIR CONCERN ABOUT SECURITY, AND I WASN'T REALLY CLUEING INTO THE ISSUE AT THAT POINT. BUT NOW THAT THIS SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING IN ON, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER. THANK YOU. WELL, AFTER WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN BRING THIS BACK APPLICANT BACK UP. AND THE BYLAWS WOULD ALLOW YOU AS CHAIR TO DO THAT. SO YES. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. AND IF YOU ARE ON THE PHONE, PRESS STAR SIX. THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE. THANK YOU JULIE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. AND ACTUALLY WE'LL BRING THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. CHAIR. I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS TOO AND COMMENTS WHEN YOU'RE DONE. THANK YOU. CHAIR THOMAS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NOW? SURE. JUST IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM A VERY CLOSE NEIGHBOR TO THIS FACILITY, SO BUT I HAVE GOT CONCERNS ABOUT MOVING INTO A AT LEAST GIVE THEM A BLANK PROCESS TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. I WOULD LIKE THAT, THAT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO FIND OUT WHAT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IS, BECAUSE AS ANYBODY'S EVER TRAVELED ON 1300 WEST, THAT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IF THEY PUT IN A DUMP STATION, WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS THAT GOING TO BRING? AND ALSO THE NOISE WITH THE REPAIR SHOP. SO THOSE ARE ALL SOME OF THE KIND OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT. AFTER I WENT THROUGH THE PACKET AND STUFF, I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION, OR I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT LEAVING IT A PH OR NOT A PH, I'M SORRY, A PO. AND THEN LATER ON CAN EITHER ADDRESS IT OR CHANGE THAT TO A DIFFERENT ZONE OR READDRESS IT, AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE CHANGE IT TO A PUBLIC UTILITIES OR A PUBLIC ZONE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY $0.02. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT YOUR QUESTIONS? YEAH. THANK YOU. SO BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IN THE STAFF REPORT DISCUSSION, WHAT WOULD YOU ADD AS FAR AS WHY YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE A PH ZON. AND EXPLAIN THAT THAT MAINTENANCE FACILITY SECURITY ISSUE YOU HAD. YOU BET. SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAD BACK TO THAT SAME OVERHEAD, PLEASE. RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND A LOWER MAINTENANCE BUILDING ON THE FACILITY. AND THEY BOTH BORDER THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE JUST TO THE NORTHWEST ACROSS THE CANAL. IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE FACILITIES BEING MOVED OUT, THAT'S SO THAT WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN SUPPLIERS, RIGHT? THAT WHEN WE ORDER PARTS OR WE ORDER EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE DON'T WANT THEM ENTERING OUR PROCESS AREA. THAT'S THE SECURITY PART OF IT. IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE NOISE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL, THE SIX ACRES YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE. HE'S KIND OF CIRCLED. WHAT HE CIRCLED RIGHT THERE IS, IS REALLY MORE OR LESS THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. BUT THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING ACTUALLY IS TO THE NORTH OF THAT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THOSE HOMES IN TERMS OF NOISE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY MORE NOISE, RIGHT? MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES ARE INSIDE OF CLOSED BUILDING. THE NOISE IS CONTAINED WHEN WE DO A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SHOP. CURRENTLY WE ARE SETTING OUT OUR VEHICLES FOR MAINTENANCE. NOW, IN THE PAST WE HAVE HAD THOSE FUNCTIONS IN HOUSE, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE RUN OUT OF ROOM, WE'VE OUTSOURCED THOSE, THOSE FUNCTIONS. AND SO IN TERMS OF VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SHOP, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AN INDOOR FACILITY AS WELL. AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY FURTHER NOISE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGE IN CONDITION. IN FACT, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE THE PARCEL IS LARGER AND WE'D BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE FUNCTIONS AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE THEY SIT NOW. AND SO AS YOU SIT HERE TODAY, YOU'RE ONLY PROPOSING THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S OUR PLANS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU'RE THINKING OF PROPOSING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDING, THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING? I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE ARE PROBABLY TEN YEARS OUT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, NONE OF NONE OF THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET PLANS. SO [01:15:05] THE FIRST IMPROVEMENT COMMISSION THAT IS IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET PLANS IS THE ROAD TO THE NORTH OF THIS PARCEL IS OUR DRIVEWAY. IT'S OUR PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT. IT COMES DOWN AND WE HAVE A BRIDGE THAT CROSSES THAT CANAL. I NEED TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND ROAD AND A SECOND BRIDGE ACROSS THE CANAL SO THAT WE CAN REBUILD THE ORIGINAL BRIDGE. RIGHT. AND THEN THAT WILL GIVE US A SECOND ENTRANCE SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL CONTRACTORS. THE FACILITY IS ALWAYS IN A STATE OF FLUX, RIGHT? THERE'S PORTIONS OF THE FACILITY THAT ARE 40 YEARS OLD, AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE. WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THEM. RIGHT. AND SO WE FINISH A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHERS TO BEGIN. AND IT GOES LIKE THAT. A SECOND ENTRANCE GIVES US A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE WHERE WE CAN CONTROL CONTRACTORS COMING INTO THE FACILITY. RIGHT. SEPARATE THAT FROM OUR REGULAR TRAFFIC. AND AGAIN, THAT MAKES THE FACILITY MORE SECURE. IT ALLOWS US TO TRACK BETTER WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO THAT ROAD, THE INTENTION OF OUR ROAD, OF OUR INTENTIONS ARE TO PUT THAT ROAD. AND IT IS IN OUR CURRENT CAPITAL FACILITY PLAN ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS PARCEL AND CROSS THE CANAL THERE. AND GIVES YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED IN YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET TODAY THAT YOU'RE FORECASTING. I DON'T KNOW THAT I DID NOT LOOK AT PO. I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT, PO, IT'S TOO RESTRICTIVE TO PUT A MAINTENANCE SHOP. IT'S TOO RESTRICTIVE TO MOVE SHIPPING AND RECEIVING UP THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. SO CAN WE GO TO THE CONCEPT SLIDE HERE? THERE YOU GO. RIGHT THERE. SO LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT HERE, YOUR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING IS GOING TO BE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. WHERE WOULD YOUR MAINTENANCE BUILDING BE AND YOUR RECEIVING BUILDING BE ON THIS CONCEPT. SO IN THAT PLAN RIGHT THERE THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NORTHWEST CORNER OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S OUR NORTHWEST CORNER OKAY. RIGHT. WE WOULD PUT THE OTHER FACILITIES DOWN CLOSER TO THE CANAL. SO IT'D BE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THIS PARCEL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP. SO LANDFILL TO FILL IN AS IT DROPS DOWN TOWARDS THE. YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE TO TEAR UP THE PARCEL OKAY. YEAH. SO THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE CONTOURS THAT ARE INDICATED RIGHT THERE. AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHICH ONE THIS REPRESENTS, WHETHER IT'S A 50 FOOT SETBACK OR A 30 FOOT SETBACK AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THIS ISSUE CAME UP. AND SO IT KIND OF PAUSED OUR BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION. RIGHT? YEAH. BUT WE WOULD TEAR IT FROM THERE DOWN. THANK YOU. YEP. ONE ITEM THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED YET IS TRAFFIC. I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE IF THE RECLAMATION FACILITY HAS DONE ANYTHING IF THIS IS IN YOU SAID ACCORDING TO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND ALL OF THAT IS TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. WE MIGHT BE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, SO TO SPEAK, BY DETERMINING HOW THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WILL BE. BUT WHAT WOULD IT BE WITH JUST THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING? IS THERE ANY I MEAN, WHAT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? SO, COMMISSIONER, WE DID HIRE WE HAVE UTILIZED ENSIGN ENGINEERING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE IMPACTS ON ALL OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, SEWER, TRANSPORT, TRAFFIC. RIGHT. AND JUST SUM IT UP. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WE ALREADY DO. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE DESTINATION OF THAT TRAFFIC. IT WOULD END CLOSER TO 1300 WEST, RATHER THAN BRINGING THAT TRAFFIC DOWN INSIDE THE FACILITY. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? KIND OF. YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO? WELL, I GOT A QUESTION. IF YOU PUT A DUMP STATION THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RVS AND STUFF, CREATING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TRAFFIC TO AREN'T YET. NO, WE DO NOT ACCEPT RESIDENTIAL RVS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO WHAT WE UTILIZE RIGHT NOW IS THERE ARE COMMERCIAL WASTE HAULERS. THINK OF PORTA POTTIES, RIGHT? PEOPLE THAT SERVICE, WHETHER THEY'RE MARATHON EVENTS OR OTHER OUTDOOR EVENTS, WE SERVICE THEM AND THEN WE SERVICE OUR MEMBER ENTITIES LIKE WEST JORDAN YOURSELF. SO YOU GUYS HAVE CREWS THAT GO AROUND AND CLEAN OUT STORM DRAIN, CREWS THAT GO AROUND AND CLEAN OUT SANITARY SEWER LINES, AND WE ALLOW THEM TO COME IN. THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL RV DUMP NORTHWARD A BLOCK ON 70TH SOUTH OF BATEMAN'S. YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE? YEAH. YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT? YES. BUT IF YOU MOVE THE DUMP STATION, THEN WOULDN'T THAT AT LEAST ALTER THE TRAFFIC? THE [01:20:04] TRAFFIC COMES DOWN INTO THE PLANT NOW ALREADY. CORRECT. BUT IF YOU MOVE IT TO WHERE YOUR PROPOSED BUILDING IS, THEN WOULDN'T THAT CHANGE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC? IT'S STILL GOING. THERE'S NO DUMP STATION IN THIS PLAN WHERE THIS BUILDING IS GOING. LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE DOWN CLOSER TO THE CANAL. BUT YOU'RE JUST TALKING FUTURE. YOU MAY CHANGE THE DUMP STATION. CORRECT. THAT THAT IS IN OUR INTENT TO DO THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT BRINGING THESE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES AND THE MUNICIPAL WORKERS THAT SERVICE THE CITY DOWN INTO THE PROCESS AREAS. OKAY. BUT THE TRAFFIC IN AND OFF, YOU KNOW, ENTERING 1300 WEST AND EXITING 1300 WEST WILL NOT CHANGE FROM WHAT IT IS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YEAH. ONE MORE JUST TO DOVETAIL ON THAT LAST COMMENT. SO I THINK MAYBE ONE CONCERN WOULD BE THAT IF YOU BRING A DUMP STATION CLOSER TO 1300 WEST AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT TRUCKS THAT COME IN, ARE YOU GOING TO BE STACKING INTO 1300 WEST SINCE YOU HAVE A SHORTER SPAN ON YOUR PRIVATE ROAD, ACCESS TO LET THE TRUCK SIT WHILE THEY WAIT TO DUMP? NO, NO, IT WON'T EVEN BE CLOSE TO THAT. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH QUESTIONS FOR FROM THE APPLICANT. FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER ALAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. SO MY $0.02. I KNOWING THAT IT'S TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S PROBABLY IMMATERIAL. CITY COUNCIL'S KIND OF WEIGHED IN ON IT. THEY'LL HAVE THEIR THEIR THOUGHTS OF COURSE GETTING INTO IT. BUT I, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CITY GETTING PUT INTO A POSITION WHERE TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE MAY BE SEEN AS CREATING CONDITIONS OF ZONING. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE JUST GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC FACILITIES. THAT'S MY $0.02. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH, I AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WE'RE CAUSING UNNECESSARY CHURN WITHIN THE SYSTEM BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A PO NOW, AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK LATER AND GO TO THE PH. LET'S JUST CUT TO THE CHASE AND DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? COMMENTS? MOTION. CURIOSITY. DOES ANYBODY FROM OUR BOARD SIT ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. NO, WE DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT. THAT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING. THAT'D BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WAS GOING ON THERE. RIGHT. BECAUSE NOW WE'RE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DEBATE BETWEEN A PH AND A PO, AND IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR WHAT THE APPLICANT THERE IS. THERE IS HISTORY THERE. WE CAN DISCUSS AFTER OUR MEETING TODAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE WHERE THE COUNCIL'S COMING FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO PO NOW AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT ANOTHER DECADE, WHO KNOWS WHAT, WHO KNOWS WHAT, WHAT'S JORDAN'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN A DECADE? YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE MOON. WHO KNOWS. RIGHT. SO I GET THAT THAT THIS IS A REAL LONG RANGE PLAN. AND IF THEY JUST REALLY FELT STRONGLY, I GUESS IF THEY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT, THEY CAN REJECT IT IF WE GIVE THEM A PH. ALL RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER ALAN, DO YOU HAVE THE MOTIONS UP ON THE SCREEN? I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS DO THIS. I IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S EASY FOR US TO FOLLOW. BUT DO YOU NOT HAVE IT? ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. I THOUGHT I DID. IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT. YEAH. BASED ON THE ANALYSIS CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT. STAFF? OH, THAT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. HANG ON. I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE WESTERN GENERAL PLAN. FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM BRP BUSINESS AND RESEARCH PARK TO PAF PUBLIC FACILITIES FOR 6.508 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 7495 SOUTH 1300 WEST. SECOND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. AND IT PASSES FIVE IN FAVOR, ONE AGAINST. ONE MORE. YEP. I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE 6.508 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 405 SOUTH 1300 WEST, FROM A BRP BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK ZONE TO PAF PROFESSIONAL OR PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONE. SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. AND AGAIN IT PASSES FIVE IN FAVOR, ONE AGAINST. OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR [5. Visionary Square; 3860 W 9000 South; Future Land Use Map Amendment for 6.81 acres from Neighborhood Commercial and Low Density Residential to Professional Office, a Rezone for 2.89 acres from SC-1 (Neighborhood Shopping Center) Zone to P-O (Professional Office) Zone, and a Development Agreement; Joel Frost (applicant) [Mark Forsythe/Todd Johnson/Dave Murphy/Paul Brockbank; #34429, #34430, #34593; parcels 27- 05-179-040, 27-05-180-006, 27-05-180-001]] AGENDA THIS EVENING IS VISIONARY SQUARE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. APPROXIMATELY 3860 WEST 9000 SOUTH. RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR 6.81 ACRES [01:25:01] FROM NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. A REZONE FOR 2.89 ACRES FROM SC ONE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING CENTER ZONE TO POA PROFESSIONAL ZONE AND MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND JOEL FROST IS THE APPLICANT OR SOMEONE WHO IS REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, CHAD JONES, ON BEHALF OF JOEL FROST. JOEL, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO THE TWO THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, BOTH THE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AS WELL AS REZONES. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE THE LOCATION JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE CORNER OF BANGERTER 90TH SOUTH, THAT KIND OF GREEN PISTOL LOOKING SHAPE THERE CURRENTLY THREE PARCELS THAT WERE CONSOLIDATED INTO 16.8 ACRES TOTAL. NEXT ONE. SO FIRST, LOOKING AT THE LAND USE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT THERE ON THE LEFT, THE UPPER PORTION OF IT IS LOW DESERT DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE LOWER RIGHT PORTION IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. OUR PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THAT UPPER PORTION TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND THEN AS WELL AS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, TO BETTER MATCH ALIGN WITH WHAT IS ALREADY AROUND US. SO THAT WHOLE ENTIRE AREA WOULD JUST ALL BE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. I DO WANT TO NOTE ON HERE AS WELL THAT THAT UPPER PORTION, THAT RECTANGLE THAT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. SO IT ALREADY DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. NEXT ONE. SO JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT OF HOW WE FEEL THAT THIS MATCHES THE CITY'S GOALS AND THE VISION FOR THE CITY AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING AROUND IT. SOME GENERAL PLAN CONSIDERATIONS, THE ARE STATED IN THE 2023 GENERAL MASTER PLAN 90 SOUTH IS STATED IN THERE AS THE PRIMARY GATEWAY TO THE CITY. SO IN THIS GRAPHIC, THAT LONG BLACK LINE IS 90 SOUTH GOING ACROSS THE CITY FROM EAST TO WEST. OUR PARCEL IS THAT GREEN OUTLINE, THAT LITTLE PISTOL SHAPE THERE, KIND OF JUST BARELY LEFT OF CENTER. AND IF YOU LOOK ALONG 90TH SOUTH, IT'S 50% OF IT IS ALL A NON USE, WITH ANOTHER 25% BEING RESIDENTIAL ON ONE SIDE, 25% ON THE OTHER, AND THEN ANOTHER 25% BEING RESIDENTIAL ON BOTH SIDES OF 90TH SOUTH. HOWEVER, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN THERE, YOU'VE NOTICED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S THEY'RE BACK TO 98 SOUTH WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT FENCES. SO. AND CONSIDERING THAT NEXT BULLET POINT THERE, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES CONSIDERED AN IDEAL BUFFER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS COMES FROM THE 2023 GENERAL PLAN. THIS IS TO ADDRESS THAT UPPER PORTION THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. BUT ON THE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A WELL ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL PLAN, THIS IS THE RIGHT BUFFER BETWEEN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL USES. FUTURE LAND USE MAP DETERMINES FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WHICH BUILD UPON EXISTING ESTABLISHED PATTERNS. AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN SEE ON 90 SOUTH AND IN THIS AREA, ALONG WITH BANGERTER, THAT THIS IS THE PATTERN TO GO TO EITHER PROFESSIONAL OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USE ALONG 90TH. AND THEN I THOUGHT THIS ONE WAS INTERESTING. THIS WAS A SURVEY IN THE 2023 GENERAL PLAN. THE TOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL EXIST IN THE CITY, AND I ONLY PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE WE DID EVEN CONSIDER MULTIFAMILY FOR THIS. BUT TRAFFIC, GIVEN THE CONDITIONS, UDOT WOULD NOT ALLOW IT. AND I CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE NEXT ONE. SO TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE REASON THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALREADY PROFESSIONAL OFFICE UP THERE AT THE TOP. SO THE ONLY ONE WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE IS THE SW ONE THERE RIGHT IN BETWEEN AT THE INTERSECTION OF 90TH SOUTH AND BANGERTER. CHANGING THAT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. NEXT ONE. SO SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE FEEL THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE AND ALIGNS WITH THE CITY AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY, IS THAT ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE PERMITTED USES UNDER THE SC ONE ZONE. NOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, JEWEL, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JOEL ABOUT THIS. HE'S BEEN HAD THIS FOR YEARS. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT USES FOR THIS PROPERTY FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS. MY FIRST INSTINCT WAS MEDICAL SERVICE. JORDAN [01:30:05] VALLEY HOSPITAL ACROSS THE STREET. HAVE SOME MEDICAL SUPPORT HERE. UDOT SAID NO TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND WITH THIS ONLY BEING 180 FOOT FROM THE OFF RAMP THERE, WE'VE LOOKED AT AND UDOT SAID NO RETAIL, NO BANK, MEDICAL SERVICE, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT IS LISTED IS A PERMITTED USE. WE'VE APPROACHED UDOT WITH AND THEY'VE SAID NO BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. SO WE FEEL THAT THE SC ONE IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS, OR IS NOT ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE SUPPORTED BY UDOT AND GOING TO CREATE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND SAFETY PROBLEMS. NEXT ONE, GOING A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AND WHETHER IT IS A COMMERCIAL OR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. SO WE'RE THE PINK IN THE BLUE THERE IN THE MIDDLE, THE GREEN. SO THE RED DASHED LINE ALONG OLD BINGHAM HIGHWAY AND ON BANGERTER KIND OF IF UNDER AN SC ONE ZONE, IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. IF WE LOOK AT WHAT THIS WOULD SERVE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY WE'RE RESTRICTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE SERVICING IS WITHIN THAT GREEN ELLIPSE, OLD BINGHAM HIGHWAY ON THE UPPER END THERE IS BLOCKED WITH THAT RED ARROW BEING REALLY THE ONLY ACCESS FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD UP THERE. AND THEN BANGERTER HIGHWAY, WE HAVE THAT BORDER OVER THERE. THEN ANYTHING FURTHER WEST IS GOING TO GO TO THAT BIG COMMERCIAL AREA. SO IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, THIS IS OUR AREA NEXT ONE. SO TO KIND OF ILLUSTRATE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT'S ALREADY THERE. LESS THAN 0.3 MILES FROM THE MAIN INTERSECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD COME TO HERE, HAVE GROCERY STORES, GAS STATIONS, FAST FOOD BANKS, RESTAURANTS, PET BOARDING, BICYCLES, STORES, DRUGSTORES. THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE. THE WOULD GO INTO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALREADY THERE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY EVEN MORE CONVENIENT BECAUSE ANYONE THAT WOULD BE GOING TO OUR PROPERTY FOR ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES WOULD HAVE TO GO. THEY CANNOT TURN INTO IT BECAUSE THE OFF RAMP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO PAST BANGERTER, DO YOUR TURN AND COME BACK. SO WE'VE WORKED WITH UDOT ON THIS. WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE DETERMINED IS ACCEPTABLE. AND THEY DO SUPPORT IT WITH IT BEING A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY, WHICH WE INTEND TO DO NEXT ONE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL. IT DOES SAY TO TALK ABOUT ANY IMPACTS TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DID WANT TO POINT OUT WE BECAUSE THE TOP PORTION, THE FUTURE LAND USE, WAS CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL. WE HAD WATER ANALYSIS AND SEWER ANALYSIS DONE. IT IS A HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, WITH THAT BEING JUST LOW DENSITY. RESIDENTIAL SEWER WAS LESS OF A AN ISSUE, BUT BOTH OF THESE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ENGINEERING AND THEY'RE ADDRESSED IN THE IN OUR MASTER DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. AND WE'D BE ADDRESSING THOSE WITH AIR USE NEXT. ONE LAST ONE HERE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE ENVISIONING ON THIS SITE, WE'RE CALLING THIS VISIONARY SQUARE BECAUSE WE SEE THIS BEING KIND OF AN INCUBATOR SPACE, STARTUP BUSINESS PLACE FOR VISIONARIES. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SHARED WORKSPACES LIKE WEWORK OR KILN SINCE COVID, COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND DEVELOPMENT HAS PLUMMETED, THERE'S BEEN NO DEMAND OTHER THAN THESE SHARED WORKSPACES, WHICH ARE FOR 1 OR 2 EMPLOYEES, BUSINESS START UP BUSINESSES WHO JUST NEED A DESK, A CONFERENCE ROOM EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. SO IT'S A SHARED WORKSPACE. WHAT WE SEE THIS AS IS SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT FOR THE SAME STARTUP COMPANY THAT DOES NEED MORE SPACE FOR EQUIPMENT. EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD DO IN HERE WILL COMPLY WITH THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONE. BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A SMALL INCUBATOR SPACE FOR STARTUP BUSINESSES AND SMALL BUSINESSES. POINT OUT ON HERE. YEAH, THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH AND DESIGNED WITH UDOT WOULD BE PUT IN THERE. WE'LL ALSO BE DOING A DECELERATION DECELERATION LANE COMING OFF OF THERE. AND THEN TO FURTHER ADDRESS THE CONCERN, IF THERE IS ANY CONCERN WITH THE CONNECTION, THE PROXIMITY TO THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, WE DO NEED TO ACCESS POINTS FOR FIRE. THAT ACCESS POINT GOING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD UP TO THE NORTH IS GOING TO BE A LOCKED GATE THAT IS ONLY ACCESSED BY FIRE AND EMS. SO THERE WOULD BE NO PUBLIC TRAFFIC GOING EITHER WAY, BECAUSE UDOT DIDN'T WANT THAT [01:35:01] RESIDENTIAL TO COME DOWN THROUGH HERE EITHER. SO THERE WILL BE NO TRAFFIC PASSING BETWEEN THE TWO. AND ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I'M SURE YOU CONSIDERED IT. WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF TRYING TO GET ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THE WEST, TO THE WEST? SO YOU COULD UTILIZE THE. CAN I ASK JOEL HOW THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WITH TO ADDRESS THAT? HE'S BEEN THE ONE TALKING TO THEM. SO YEAH. SO SINCE I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM, THEY HAVE THEY'VE CHANGED OWNERSHIP I THINK THREE TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS PROPERTY. AND THE LAST TWO, THE LAST ONE, I COULDN'T EVEN GET HIM TO CALL ME BACK. THESE GUYS WHO OWN IT NOW, THEY WILL CALL ME BACK. BUT THERE'S JUST NO, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEIR WHAT THEIR BUSINESS IS DOING RIGHT NOW. SO LIKE WE WANTED TO DO KIND OF A SWAP ON SOME PARKING UP FRONT WITH MAYBE US GETTING THE BACK PORTION OF IT WHERE THEY HAVEN'T DEVELOPED BACK THERE AND THERE'S LIKE NO. SO AND NOW I THINK YOU GUYS PROBABLY SEE IT. THEY'RE PUTTING A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK NOW FOR THEIR FOR THEIR BUSINESS. SO ANYWAY, JUST KNOW THEY'RE FRIENDLY. BUT NO THEY'RE NOT OPEN TO ANY SORT OF LIKE JOINT VENTURE OR LIKE COOPERATION AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO I APPROACHED THEM AND SAID, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO BUY THIS SITE? BECAUSE THIS SITE MAYBE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, NO INTEREST THERE EITHER. SO, I MEAN, WE I'VE TRIED TO EXPLORE ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SYNERGY, BUT JUST NO INTEREST FROM THE CURRENT OWNER OR THE PRIOR OWNER. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE MARK ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. MY APPRECIATION TO MR. JONES FOR THAT THOROUGH PRESENTATION. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO THAT. DID A GREAT JOB. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS JUST KIND OF SOME HISTORY ON THIS. SO WE TOOK THIS PROPOSED CONCEPT AND THIS IDEA OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND REZONE TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE BACK ON APRIL 29TH, 2025. AND WHILE THE FEEDBACK WAS REALLY PRETTY POSITIVE, THEY HAD HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING A FEW WEEKS BEFORE TO GET SOME INPUT FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY POSITIVE ABOUT THE IDEA. REALLY. THE MAIN CONCERN WAS JUST, OF COURSE, TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN JUST ANY KIDS WANDERING THROUGH THE SITE OR COMING THROUGH THE SITE FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN TO 90TH AND HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS THERE. SO IN THE IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED OUT A PROVISION IN THERE TO LIKE HE WAS SAYING, CLOSE THAT NORTH ACCESS OFF AND JUST LEAVE THAT GATED AS A FIRE AND EMS ACCESS ONLY. SO AND THEN JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THEY ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WOULD BE CUT OFF THERE AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THAT THOSE DETAILS WILL WORK THAT OUT AT THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, WHICH WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LATER ON ONCE THE REZONE FUTURE LAND USE MAP NBA APPROVED. BUT AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WOULD ADD IS JUST RELATED TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THERE'S SOME STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S A PROVISION IN THERE THAT'LL THAT'LL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. BUT BASICALLY THIS SITE IS KIND OF AT THE HIGH POINT TO THE CITY'S STORMWATER SYSTEMS, MEANING IT'S KIND OF A TALE. AND WE'RE BEGINNING, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. BUT BASICALLY EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH FLOWS TO THE NORTH, UP TO ALL THE WAY UP TO 78, REALLY. AND SO. WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, THAT'S GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SOME OF THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEMS, PARTICULARLY TO THE NORTH. SO THEY'LL NEED TO BE SOME UPSIZING. THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TIDY AND WORKING PROPERLY. BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT WILL BE A LOT OF THE DETAILS WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE. SITE PLAN NEXT SLIDE. NEXT. NEXT ONE AFTER [01:40:07] THAT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. GO BACK ONE. THERE YOU GO. YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT STEPS WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND REZONE WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION. AND HOPEFULLY IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL THERE THE APPLICANT CAN THEN APPLY FOR THEIR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND PRELIMINARY CONDOMINIUM PLAT. THAT WILL NEED TO BE GO THROUGH STAFF REVIEW AND THEN COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THEN WE'LL APPLY FOR THE FINAL SITE PLAN AND FINAL CONDOMINIUM PLAT, AND THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT REZONE AND THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS PROPOSED, AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. MARK. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. NO QUESTIONS. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER AND YOU'RE IN THE ROOM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU ARE ON THE PHONE, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. KIM TURNER I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT HE SAID WAS CORRECT. THE MAIN CONCERN WE HAD WAS ABOUT THE ACCESS AND HAVING THAT CUT OFF. AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, I GUESS, OR CAN'T SOMEHOW. AND THEN I JUST HAD A THOUGHT WHILE I WAS SITTING THERE. AND THAT IS THE FACT THAT HE'S SAYING THIS IS FOR HIGHER DENSITY USE. AND IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, OUR WATER PRESSURE HAS BEEN BAD FOR SPRINKLERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE. AND EVERYBODY KEEPS TELLING ME IT'S GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT. SO LIKE I'M CONCERNED, I GUESS THAT THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY PUT IN THE RIGHT WATER FLOW REQUIRED FOR THIS HIGHER USE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ENOUGH WATER, I GUESS FLOW, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE HAPPEN TO HAVE SOME WATER EXPERTS IN THE ROOM HERE TO YOUR SITTING ALONG THAT WALL. SO IF YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT YOUR WATER FLOW, THERE ARE CAPTIVE AUDIENCE AT THE MOMENT. SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ON ZOOM? JULIE? NOBODY WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED. GREAT. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION. IF WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. OKAY. BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP LAND USE DESIGNATIONS CONCERNING 6.81 ACRES AT APPROXIMATELY 3860 WEST 90TH SOUTH FROM NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. MR. GONZALEZ, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES SIX IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE THE PARCELS, COMPRISING 2.89 ACRES AND LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3860 WEST 90TH SOUTH FROM AN SC ONE ZONE TO A ZONE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU BOTH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES SIX IN FAVOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE WITH THIS WEIRD SHAPE HUNK OF LAND. I THOUGHT IT LOOKED LIKE A NUMBER SEVEN, NOT [6. Sanitary Sewer Master Plan Update; Recommendation to the City Council to Amend the West Jordan 2023 General Plan to include the Sanitary Sewer Master Plan Update; City-wide applicability; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Greg Davenport]] A GUN, BUT I GUESS THAT'S OUR FRAME OF REFERENCE. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER SIX, THE SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN. UPDATE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE WEST JORDAN 2023 GENERAL PLAN TO INCLUDE THE SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE WITH CITYWIDE APPLICABILITY, AND WEST JORDAN CITY IS THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND COUNCIL. TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTING. I'M DAVE MURPHY BY THE WAY. BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A LITTLE WHILE [01:45:04] HERE. SO TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT A SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE PLAN AND ASK YOU FOR INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PROPOSED 2025 UPDATE I DO HAVE WITH ME. BARRAGE. HE'S FROM THE CONSULTING GROUP CONSORT, AND HE HAS BEEN THE MAIN MODELER IN TECHNICAL GURU EXTRAORDINAIRE ON HELPING US PUT TOGETHER SOME OF THESE CHANGES IN THE MASTER PLAN. SO. SO TODAY WE ARE PRESENTING THE MASTER PLAN THAT IS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN. AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, AND RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN HAS A SET STANDARD LEVEL OF SERVICE. AND THE 2025 MASTER PLAN IS REINFORCING THAT AND MODIFYING THAT AS NECESSARY FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO BE MAINTAINED AS IT CURRENTLY IS FOR ITS FUTURE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS ITS PRESENT ONES. IN THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN, OUR CONSULTANT ANALYZED OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. THEY ESTIMATED THE FUTURE SANITARY SEWER DEMAND AND THEN PROPOSED THE REQUIRED COLLECTION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE SUPPORT THAT'S NEEDED FOR THAT FUTURE DEMAND. THIS WILL REQUIRE REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM AS DEFINED IN THE REPORT. SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TONIGHT IS THAT THIS MEETING CONTINUES THE PROCESS OF GATHERING PUBLIC INPUT AND ADOPTING THE SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN, AND THE PLAN IS STILL IN THE DRAFT STAGE. SO WE WELCOME ALL COMMENTS. OUR EXISTING SYSTEM HAS EIGHT INCH LINES ON UP FROM IN THE SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH CONTINUES INTO THE COLLECTOR ROADWAYS. IT'S A VERY VAST AND ROBUST SYSTEM, 365 MILES OF PIPELINES TO MAINTAIN 7000 PLUS MANHOLES. YOU'LL SEE THEM SPACED ABOUT APPROXIMATELY EVERY 400FT IN THE ROADS THAT YOU DRIVE THROUGH EVERY DAY, WITH THOSE NICE CONCRETE COLLARS AROUND THEM. AND WE HAVE FOUR MAJOR TRUNK SYSTEMS IN THE CITY 70TH, 78TH, 80, 50 SOUTH, WHICH SOME PEOPLE MISTAKE FOR 13TH WEST. SORRY, WE'VE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTING WAY TOO OFTEN AND 90TH SOUTH. AND THE COLORIZED MAP THERE SHOWS YOU WHICH PART WHICH PARTS ARE PART OF EACH SYSTEM. AND THE EXISTING SYSTEM HAS GENERALLY THE CAPACITY FOR EXISTING FLOWS. WE DO HAVE A FEW CHOKE POINTS AND A FEW AREAS THAT'S STILL IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE EXISTING CAPACITY OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM, BUT OVERALL IT IT CARRIES THE FLOW DOWN TO THE PLANT AS AS REQUIRED. SO TO EVALUATE THE FUTURE DEMANDS, WE WENT OFF OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED, AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PROPERTY AND PARCELS IN TOWN, ASSIGNED CURRENT FLOWS TO THEM, AND IN FACT WENT OUT AND METERED SOME OF THOSE FLOWS TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ACCURATE IN THE CURRENT EXISTING FLOWS. THEN WE TURNED THAT OVER TO COUNCIL TO MODEL INTO THE NEW FUTURE FLOWS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE INCREASE THERE, EVEN THOUGH CURRENTLY WE'RE AT LEAST TWO THIRDS OR THREE QUARTERS BUILT OUT THAT WESTERN AREA OF THE CITY CAN LOAD THE SYSTEM WITH QUITE A LOT OF DENSITY. AND THAT'S WHY THAT YOU SEE THAT 82% INCREASE IN IN THE POTENTIAL DENSITY AND FLOWS TO THE TREATMENT PLANT IN THE BUILD OUT CONDITION, BUT THEY USE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IN EACH ZONE. THEY USE THE SYSTEM EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES. IN THE MODEL, THEY USED OVERLAY ZONES. ALSO. THAT'S IN THE CURRENT ZONING. THOSE DID CAUSE QUITE A BIT OF DIFFICULTY FOR OUR CONSULTANT AND CITY STAFF, BECAUSE OF THE VERY HIGH DENSITY THAT COULD BE CREATED IN SOME OF THOSE OVERLAY ZONES. SO WHAT WE WENT BACK TO IS WE MAXED OUT THE USE OF THOSE OVERLAY ZONES AT 25 UNITS TO THE ACRE, AND ANYTHING OVER THAT THAT'S PROPOSED BY DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE OVERLAY ZONES. THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT INCREASED DENSITY AS A PROJECT IMPROVEMENT. THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS WITH THIS UPDATE OF THE 2025 SEWER MASTER PLAN. AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT CAP AND HAVE FUTURE DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND SAY, BUILD 3500 UNITS ON 600 ACRES, TO HAVE THEM PAY THE EXTRA SHARE BEYOND [01:50:09] 25 UNITS TO THE ACRE. DO YOU MIND IF WE INTERRUPT YOU MID PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION? YOU BETCHA. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A WATER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT INCREASE IN DENSITY? IF A BUILDER CHOOSES TO BUILD, IS THERE ENOUGH? WHEN DO WE RUN OUT? THAT'S A VERY GREAT QUESTION. MAYBE NOW. AND THAT MAYBE COMES WITH A LOT OF. DID YOU BRING YOUR STATE LAW BEHIND IT? DID YOU BRING YOUR CRYSTAL BALL? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS. IT'S THE SAME QUESTION I'VE BEEN ASKING THE STATE ENGINEER FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. THANK YOU. AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO TELL US WHAT THE MAXIMUM YIELD IS IN THE AQUIFER AND THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL FOR REUSE OF BASICALLY TREATMENT, WATER TREATMENT PLANT EFFLUENT WOULD DO FOR SYSTEMS. THAT'S A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION, BUT. WE'RE WE'RE GOING THROUGH AS WE SPEAK. ALSO A SIDEBAR WATER WATER RESOURCE STUDY UPDATE. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THAT THAT WILL BE COMING THROUGH SOON THAT MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY RELEASED FOR PUBLIC PERUSAL BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH WATER RIGHTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY PROPERTY ISSUES THERE WITH THAT. SO. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AND VERY, VERY HEAVILY LIMITED. AND JORDAN VALLEY IS TELLING US WHAT THOSE LIMITATIONS ARE. AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO PROMULGATE THEIR OWN RULES FOR THOSE LIMITATIONS HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, PROBABLY BY DECEMBER. SO THANK YOU. SO SOME OF THE. KEY TAKEAWAYS WITH THAT MAX DENSITY ISSUE. STAY BACK ON THAT ONE SLIDE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF RECENT EXAMPLES OF THIS THAT CAME THROUGH THE CITY AND VERY RECENTLY. AND ONE OF THEM WAS BOWMAN'S ARROW. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT ONE. THEY WERE PROPOSING SOME VERY HIGH DENSITY AND THAT WOULD WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE LINES ON 78 SOUTH TO HAVE TO BE UPSIZED FROM SIX 6400 WEST ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 4000 WEST, AT THE COST OF ABOUT $15 MILLION. WELL, SINCE THE HOSPITAL HAS PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY, NOW, THAT DENSITY IS MAYBE FOR A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS OFF THE TABLE, AND WE'RE BACK DOWN INSIDE THE PRESENT SIZES AND USES OF THE CURRENT COLLECTION SYSTEM, MAYBE WITH SOME VERY MODERATE UPGRADES INSTEAD OF $15 MILLION. THE OTHER EXAMPLE THAT CAME THROUGH THE CITY RECENTLY WAS ALSO FACEBOOK. AND THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED UPGRADES ALL ALONG THE 90TH SOUTH SYSTEM, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RIVER. BUT BEING THAT THEY WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE, THOSE UPGRADES HAVE NOW BEEN TABLED FOR NOW. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT A LITTLE DENSITY CAN DO. THE UPGRADES ALONG THE 90TH SOUTH SYSTEM WERE NORTH OF 25 TO $30 MILLION. LET ME GRAB THIS HERE IN JUST A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO PROPOSED PROJECTS. THAT. THERE'S SOME SHORT TERM PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. THEY ARE VARYING IN RANGE OF PRIORITY. THEY'RE ALL ON THIS LIST BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE BEGGING FOR ATTENTION. AND IT'S THE RESULT AND ALSO AS A RESULT OF FUTURE DEMANDS DROPPING INTO SOME OF THOSE SYSTEMS AS PROPERTIES DEVELOP NEARBY THEM. SO WE'VE GOT PROJECTS LIKE CAMPUS VIEW DRIVE, 56 WEST BINGHAM CREEK, 90TH SOUTH, WHICH IS 64 WEST TO DUCK CREEK WAY. THAT'S OUT IN THE AREA THAT GARDNER DEVELOPMENT IS IN, AND ALSO IVEY DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS. NOW. MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ARE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION A YEAR ANNUALLY, BUT SOME OF THEM INCLUDE SOME VERY BIG PIPELINES. WE'RE DOING A PROJECT AT ON THE 36 INCH MAIN THIS YEAR. IT'S BEING DESIGNED RIGHT NOW, AND THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR IS IN THE INTERSECTION OF BANGERTER HIGHWAY AND 78 SOUTH. SO IT WILL BE A DIFFICULT TRAFFIC CONTROL PROBLEM AS PART OF THE PROJECT. BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE THERE ARE 290 DEGREE BENDS ON THAT 36 INCH PIPE NEAR THE JORDAN AQUEDUCT THAT NEED TO COME OUT AND BE REPLACED. SO [01:55:03] IT'S A DELICATE PROJECT, IT'S DEEP, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING ONE TO PULL OFF WITH UDOT. SO THAT'S THE SHORT TERM ONES. LONG TERM PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE ALSO RANGE QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE ALL OVER THE CITY. THERE ARE PROJECTS LIKE 78 SOUTH 13TH WEST. AGAIN I'M SORRY BUT IT'S A PROJECT ON 36 INCH MAIN. AGAIN THAT WILL BECOME LIMITED TO CAPACITY IN CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE AND WILL NEED TO BE UPGRADED. IT'S BASICALLY A REDEFINITION OF THE SLOPE OF SOME OF THE PIPES AND THEN TYING SOME PIPES IN DIFFERENTLY. THERE'S A BIG 18 INCH THAT COMES INTO THE 36 INCH THAT NEEDS TO BE TIED IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. GRIZZLY WAY NEAR 78 SOUTH. LIMITED FLOW THERE. AND THEN THERE'S QUITE A FEW OTHERS THERE ON THAT LIST. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM OR ANY ONE OF THEM, PLEASE COME AND SEE ME AND GREG. WE'VE GOT LOTS OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON EACH ONE OF THEM. MAY I INTERRUPT YOU? JUST A SECOND, OFFICER, COULD I ASK YOU TO HAVE THEM MOVE FARTHER DOWN THE HALLWAY SO WE'RE NOT DISTRACTED? THANK YOU. IF ANY ONE OF YOU HAVE EVER STARED AT SEWER VIDEOS FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW YOU'LL YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ON THE 36 INCH MAIN THAT WE HAVE, IT'S A VITRIFIED CLAY PIPE, WHICH MEANS IT'S A HARD FIRE KILNED CLAY PIPE, WHICH IS VERY, VERY TOUGH PIPE. IT'S CHEMICALLY INERT. IT'S GREAT, BUT IT CAN CRACK IF IT'S MOVED. AND BEING THAT WE'VE HAD A FEW EARTHQUAKES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN A COUPLE OF CRACKS DEVELOP IN THAT PIPE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF LINING PROJECTS WE'D LIKE TO DO FOR THAT PIPE THAT ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN THAT SHORT TERM, LONG TERM LIST. WE WANT TO GET TO THEM AHEAD OF ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE IS THE POINT. SO THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS DO POP UP ON THIS LIST. MOREOVER, NEXT ONE WE'VE GOT THE TREATMENT PLAN TO TAKE CARE OF AS PART OF OUR COSTS FOR SEWER TREATMENT. AND THAT IS IN THE SEWER BILL THAT HELPS MAINTAIN THE TREATMENT PLANT. WE DO BONDED PROJECTS DOWN THERE QUITE A BIT. THOSE ARE LONG TERM BONDS. THEY HANDLE PROJECTS FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS AS PART OF THE FACILITY'S CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN. I DO SIT ON THAT BOARD. I DO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT, WELL FINANCED AND WELL PRIORITIZED SO THAT WE DON'T GO OVER OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES BUDGET. MCC REPLACEMENT. THAT'S MOTOR CONTROL CENTERS, THAT'S ELECTRICAL VFD REPLACEMENTS. ALSO ELECTRICAL SWITCHGEAR REPLACEMENT AS WELL BIOPROCESS IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE OF NEW REGULATIONS ON PHOSPHORUS OR NITROGEN OR OTHER CONSTITUENTS THAT COME UP IN FOR RELEASE TO THE JORDAN RIVER BASED ON CLEAN WATER ACT. WE HAVE TO REACT TO THOSE NEW REGULATIONS. PFAS IS ONE OF THOSE, PFOS IS ONE OF THOSE. AND WE HAVE TO BASICALLY UPGRADE THE MECHANICAL AND CHEMICAL SYSTEMS INSIDE THE PLANT TO HANDLE THAT. SO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD TEGAN SAY EARLIER ABOUT PROCESS CONTROL AND KEEPING PEOPLE OUT AND AWAY FROM THE PROCESS CONTROLS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR SECURITY. SO I'LL JUST EMPHASIZE THAT AGAIN FOR YOU, UV REPLACEMENT IS MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL. THE BULBS DOWN THERE DO WEAR OUT AND THE PROCESS ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS PUSHING THE ELECTRICITY THROUGH THOSE BULBS. IT NEEDS TO CHANGE. AND THOSE PROCESSES ARE NOW 20 YEARS OLD. SO THEY'VE WORN OUT. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S COMING UP SOON. VARIOUS MISCELLANEOUS SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND STANDBY POWER. THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRICAL IN THERE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE PLANT'S 45 YEARS OLD. AND MANY OF THOSE ELECTRICAL CONTROLS HAVE JUST GIVEN UP THE GHOST AND NEED TO BE CHANGED OUT BEFORE THEY FAIL COMPLETELY. AND SO RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS REPORT. NEXT PAGE. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT AND MONITOR OUR FLOW INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE METER COLLECTION POINTS. THERE'S EIGHT OF THEM DOWN THERE ALONG THE JORDAN RIVER THAT WE MONITOR WITH THE PLANT ALL THE TIME. THEY TELL US WHERE OUR INCOMING FLOWS ARE FLUCTUATING. WE GET DAILY AND HOURLY AND 15 MINUTE INCREMENT INFORMATION. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION COMING AT US ALL THE TIME TO TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE FLOW MONITORING. WE DO HAVE A NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR MANHOLE INSPECTIONS DONE. WE WANT TO BE ON A FOUR YEAR CYCLE WITH THOSE. OUR CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION INSPECTION PROGRAM NEEDS TO BE ON A SEVEN YEAR CYCLE THROUGHOUT THE MAINLINE PIPING, AND THEN JET CLEANING THOSE MAINS THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM EVERY FOUR [02:00:05] YEARS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS. CONDITION ASSESSMENT. NOW, WE HAVE HAD VIDEO MONITORING IN OUR SYSTEM FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. WE DID LOSE A PORTION OF THAT VIDEO INFORMATION BECAUSE OF EVENTS IN OUR IT SYSTEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT WE WANT TO BRING THE SYSTEM MORE INTO CONFORMANCE WITH WHAT'S CALLED NASSCO INSPECTION. AND THAT NASSCO MEANS NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SEWER COMPANIES. AND THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF VIDEO INSPECTION RATING SYSTEM. AND SO WE'LL BRING THAT RATING SYSTEM INTO OUR VIDEO INSPECTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. OUR PERSONNEL BEING TRAINED ON THAT RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S A PORTION OF HOW WE PRIORITIZE THE WORK THAT'S AHEAD OF US. AND THEN ANNUAL REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THAT'S THAT $1.5 MILLION A YEAR RIGHT NOW, CIP LINING THAT'S CURED IN PLACE, PIPE LINING. THAT'S WHERE WE DO SLIP LINING INSIDE THE EXISTING PIPES AS A WAY TO LIMIT THE DISRUPTIONS TO TRAFFIC AND RESIDENTS. WHILE WE'RE UPGRADING THE SYSTEM, IT'S A VERY KEY PORTION OF OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR THE MAINLINE PIPES. WE ARE ALSO LINING MANHOLES WITH EPOXY COATINGS TO STOP THE DEGRADATION OF THE CONCRETE MANHOLES. THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE SYSTEM. AND YOU'VE SEEN THE SHORT TERM AND THE LONG TERM PROJECTS. THE MASTER PLAN IS EVALUATING THE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS FOR ALL OF THOSE RIGHT NOW, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE THE CORRECT ONES, THAT WE'RE PULLING DOWN AND TAKING CARE OF EVERY YEAR. AND WITH THAT, I'LL END AND YOU CAN ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE, BUT IT'S NOT RELATED TO YOUR PRESENTATION. ALTHOUGH IT WAS EXCELLENT. MY QUESTION IS ON THE SOURCE WATER SOURCE OVERLAY. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT PUTTING ASPHALT DOWN TO PROTECT WHAT PROTECTS THE WATER SOURCE FROM THE ASPHALT. THE CHEMICALS IN THE ASPHALT. THE CHEMICALS IN THE ASPHALT ARE FAIRLY TIGHTLY BOUND. IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE NOT BEING. DEGRADED WITH ANY DIESEL OR GASOLINE SPILLS ON THEM, WHICH THAT WILL CAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE. BUT MOST OF THE TIME THOSE RUN OFF OR EVAPORATE VERY QUICKLY. ASPHALT DEGRADES WITH UV, SUNLIGHT AND DEGRADES FROM THE SURFACE DOWN, AND THEN IT STARTS CRACKING FROM THE BOTTOM UP BECAUSE OF WATER INTRUSION FROM THE CRACKS. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF. ASPHALT BINDER CONTENT THAT CAN GET INTO THE GROUNDWATER SYSTEMS THROUGH THROUGH THE GROUND. BECAUSE OF THE SAND LAYERS UNDERNEATH AND THE PROTECTIONS THERE. IT JUST IT DOESN'T TRAVEL, AND ITS PERMEABILITY AND ITS RATE OF TRAVEL IS SO LOW THAT IT'S NEARLY NEGLIGIBLE. SO THE ASPHALT ITSELF IS NOT THE PROBLEM. ANY SPILLS THAT COME ONTO THE ASPHALT ARE THE PROBLEM. AND THE ASPHALT IS CONSIDERED IMPERMEABLE LIKE NOTHING IN IT. YEAH, IT'S SEMI IMPERMEABLE UNTIL IT BREAKS DOWN BY BY THE UV LIGHT. YEAH. I WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION EARLIER AND I THOUGHT I'LL JUST WAIT TILL NOW. SO YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION NOW THAT I'VE DISRUPT THE FLOW. THIS IS IT'S AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. IT'S SOBERING WHEN YOU REALIZE THE COST AND HOW IT GETS FUNDED AND THE LIMITED RESOURCE. RIGHT. IF WE COULD BUY WATER STOCK, WE SHOULD BUY STOCK IN WATER. RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF BILLION DOLLAR SYSTEMS HERE. YOU KNOW, MINIMUM AND MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR SYSTEMS WITH MILLIONS A YEAR. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THAT MONEY AS BEST WE CAN. AND THIS THIS MASTER PLAN HELPS US DO THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALLEN. YEAH I THINK JUST ALONG THAT LINE, KUDOS TO THE CITY FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE I AM AWARE OF I WON'T SAY ANYWHERE SPECIFIC, BUT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AROUND THE NATION THAT HAVE OPTED, INSTEAD OF MAINTAINING THEIR SYSTEMS JUST TO WAIT FOR A DISASTER AND THEN HAVE FEMA COME IN AND PAY FOR IT. SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING A SYSTEM THAT HOPEFULLY SURVIVES EARTHQUAKES AND DISASTERS AT LEAST, OH, WE WANT A SMALL, YES, COUPLE OF DAYS OR COUPLE OF WEEKS TO, TO GET BACK INTO SERVICE. THIS IS GREAT. THAT'S AN EXPERT RECOMMENDATION. FYI, BREAKDOWN MAINTENANCE IS GENERALLY SPEAKING ABOUT FOUR TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUST NORMAL MAINTENANCE. YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. NO. DEFINITELY NOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE LAST QUESTION ON WILL THERE BE A COST INCREASE TO THE RESIDENTS FOR WATER? IS THAT ANOTHER LIKE LIKE [02:05:07] WATER? YEAH. JUST WATER OR WATER AND SEWER. I MEAN I'M IN THE HOA RIGHT NOW. I HAPPEN TO BE THE FINANCE GUY. SO I SEE HOW MUCH WE PAY FOR SEWER. IT'S GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. ALSO FOR WATER THERE'S AN ANNUAL INCREASE THAT JORDAN VALLEY TYPICALLY PASSES ON TO US FOR INFLATION AND COSTS THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY GIVE US 80 TO 85% OF OUR WATER RIGHT NOW, 90%. AND SO THAT COST THAT THEY GIVE TO US, WE HAVE TO PASS ON THROUGH OUR RATE STRUCTURE TO ALL CUSTOMERS. RIGHT. SO YOU CAN TYPICALLY COUNT ON THOSE ANNUAL INCREASES PASSING THROUGH THE WEST JORDAN WATER BILL. YES. SEWER RATES ARE STABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY SHOULD NOT INCREASE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DOES LOOK LIKE FOR MAINTENANCE, BOTH IN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM AND AT THE TREATMENT PLANT. BOTH. WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL ON TRIUMPH LANE, SO WE HAVE A PUMP THAT PUMPS IT UP. OH, SO WE I'M SORRY I KNOW, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE AT. YES. MY GOAL IN TOWN WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE WAS TO REMOVE ALL PUMP STATIONS THAT WERE PUBLICLY OWNED. YEARS IS ONE OF THEM I COULD NOT GET RID OF. WE WOULD HAVE LOVED YOU TO HAVE GOTTEN RID OF IT. IT'S EXPENSIVE TO RAISE YOUR GROUND A FEW FEET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. YEAH, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. YEAH. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. WE SHOULD. NONE OF US KNEW THAT WHEN WE MOVED IN 20 YEARS AGO. SO NOW YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED. YES. AND WE DO HAVE A NICE RESERVE BALANCE TO COVER THOSE COSTS. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST OH PUBLIC HEARING. OH THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HERE OKAY. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. AND IF YOU'RE ONLINE, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED ONLINE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I MOVE THAT WE FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE 2023 GENERAL PLAN TO INCLUDE THE SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH, I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES SIX VOTES IN FAVOR. THANK YOU AGAIN. [7. Text Amendment – Commercial Vehicles in Residential Zones; Recommendation to the City Council to Amend the West Jordan City Code Title 13-2-3: Definitions, 13-5B-7: General Provisions, 13-8-14: Storage of Commercial Vehicles in Residential Zones – Updating types of vehicles and equipment permitted to be stored in residential zones and adding associated definitions; city-wide applicability; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Megan Jensen]] AND NOW WE'LL GO TO OUR LAST ONE TEXT AMENDMENT. COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. MEGAN, YOU GET TO STAY THE WHOLE MEETING. YES. IT'S AMAZING. THAT'S A GRIN OF PURE ENJOYMENT RIGHT THERE. SO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE WEST JORDAN CITY CODE, TITLE 13 DASH TWO THREE DEFINITIONS 13 5-7 GENERAL PROVISIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE REST OF IT. UPDATING THE TYPES OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT PERMITTED TO BE STORED IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES, AND ADDING ASSOCIATED DEFINITIONS WITH CITY WIDE APPLICABILITY. MEGAN. THANK YOU. SO LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE PRE MEETING, THIS IS COMING FORWARD MOSTLY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME ENFORCEMENT ISSUES WITH COMMERCIAL VEHICLES BEING STORED IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND A LACK OF CLARITY IN OUR CODE ON THE SIZES AND QUANTITY AND LOCATION OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. THIS HAS IN THIS MOST RECENT ROUND, WE'VE TAKEN IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE TIMES. WE'VE DONE A SURVEY WITH THEM TO GET THEIR INPUT. AND SO THAT'S THE DRAFT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. IT'S AFFECTING A FEW DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF CODE. SO I'LL JUST GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF EACH. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION WE ARE JUST REMOVING THIS PART THAT TALKS ABOUT WATERCRAFT TRAILERS CAMPERS AND RVS AND MOTORHOMES JUST TO MOVE IT INTO THIS NEW SECTION TO CONSOLIDATE. THIS IS THE MAIN SECTION THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE. WE'VE USED A CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION TO SEPARATE VEHICLES IN DIFFERENT CLASSES. WE'VE INCLUDED A CHART, AND SO IT'S EASY TO IDENTIFY EACH. AND ALSO ADDED WRITTEN DEFINITIONS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SECTION. AND WE'VE ADDED SOME GENERAL PROVISIONS IN THERE PROHIBITING THE LARGER VEHICLES AND SOME VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS THE TABLE THAT WE HAVE [02:10:01] CREATED BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL. AND IT GOES THROUGH EACH CLASS AND EACH TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT CLASSIFIED INTO WEIGHT SIZES. AND DIFFERENT TYPES AND WHERE THEY CAN BE LOCATED AND HOW MANY FOR EACH. SO OF COURSE, P MEANS PERMITTED. SO WE HOPE THIS IS EASIER FOR OUR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. AND THEN JUST A DEFINITIONS INCLUDING THE CHART AND WRITTEN DEFINITIONS FOR EACH. AND THEN THIS WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. AND THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THIS IS NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS BEHALF. PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, PLEASE STAR SIX TO SPEAK. THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, NO ONE HAS QUESTIONS. I WILL MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. AND IT PASSES SIX IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.