[Pre-Meeting 5:30 p.m.] [00:00:10] EVENING. WE WILL START THE PRE MEETING FOR THE WEST JORDAN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 2ND 2025. WE HAVE THREE OF THE BODY HERE WHICH IS SUFFICE TO GO AHEAD AND START OUR PRE MEETING. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. NEXT IS PUBLIC HEARING FOR ALIGNED ENERGY TRANSMISSION LINE. AND MEGAN'S GOT THAT ONE BEFORE YOU START. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK BEFORE OKAY. SUPER. AM I ON YET. OH I AM, I HEAR IT. SO WHERE'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION? I HOPE THEY SHOW UP. THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE ARE HERE. THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE ARE HERE, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC. OKAY, THERE HE IS. OKAY. ANYWAY, I RECEIVED THIS LETTER FROM FROM NOVA AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ YOU THE ONE PARAGRAPH THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS NOVA APPRECIATES THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION TO CONTINUE THE CUP FOR AN ADDITIONAL 45 DAYS, ALLOWING NOVA ENERGY AND ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER TIME TO EVALUATE AND DISCUSS THE TWO POTENTIAL PATHWAYS FOR THE MOST EFFICIENT PHYSICAL UTILITY TRANSMISSION AND CONNECTION POINTS TO BEST SERVE ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED. SO YOU MAY RECALL THAT DECISION HAPPENED KIND OF ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT AND IT MADE A DIFFERENCE. SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE AND MAKING WEST JORDAN KEEPING WEST JORDAN THE TOP CITY AROUND. WELL BEYOND THAT TO THE TOP CITY ANYWHERE. AND IF ANYONE WANTS IT, I LOVE WEST JORDAN STICKER, JUST LET ME KNOW. I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A COUPLE WITH ME. OKAY, YOU GOT IT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME INTERRUPT PART OF YOUR MEETING. THANK YOU. MAYOR. OKAY. MEGAN. SO, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE CAME BACK IN JULY TO HEAR THIS. THEY ARE JUST ADJUSTING THE ONE PART OF THE TRANSMISSION LINE FROM THE WEST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SINCE THAT MEETING, WE'VE GOTTEN THE LETTER FROM NOVA KIND OF RESCINDING WHAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT IN THEIR LAST MEETING, AND THEN ALSO A LETTER FROM ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER IN FAVOR OF THE NEW ALIGNMENT. AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE UPDATES AND WHERE WE'RE AT. AND SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MEGAN. OKAY. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE LP FOR DOGTOWN PET AND SPA RESORT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE MEGAN YOU'RE IT. YEAH. THIS IS JUST FOR A PET BOARDING FACILITY ON WELBY PARK ROAD. IT'S IN A MANUFACTURING PARK ZONE. THEY'VE INCLUDED. A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE. THEY'LL HAVE A LARGE RECREATION AREA. WE'VE INCLUDED, I THINK, SIX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. MOSTLY MINIMIZING NOISE. THEY'LL KEEP THE OVERHEAD DOORS OPEN TO KIND OF HAVE THAT KIND OF OPEN FEEL. FRESH AIRFLOW, QUIET TIME BETWEEN 6 P.M. OR 10 P.M. AND 6 A.M. AND THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, HAPPY TO ANSWER. THE ONLY QUESTION I THINK THAT CAME ACROSS EVEN BEFORE WAS THE NOISE ISSUE. SO WE'LL SURE ADDRESS THAT WHEN THE MEETING OFFICIALLY STARTS. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT IS THE COPPER MEADOWS PHASE ONE AND TWO. AND IT LOOKS LIKE TAYLOR. YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TWO PRELIMINARY PLATS FROM THE COPPER MEADOWS PROJECT WHICH RECEIVED ZONING AND MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND AGREEMENT APPROVAL BACK IN NOVEMBER. 59 LOTS ON ABOUT 14.7 ACRES. IT DOES MATCH EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THEIR MDP. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. WE'VE GONE OVER THIS QUITE A FEW TIMES, I KNOW JUST A FEW. SO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM FIVE WHICH IS PUBLIC HEARING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT IS THE DRY [00:05:05] CREEK HIGHLANDS SUB AREA TWO ON 9000 SOUTH AND 6400 WEST. AND IT LOOKS LIKE MARK. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE NEXT SUB AREA PLAN FOR THE JONES RANCH MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH COVERS JUST UNDER 600 ACRES ON BOTH SIDES OF U111 ON THE WEST SIDE. BUT YEAH. SO THIS WILL BE THE SECOND SUB AREA PLAN THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS. THE FIRST ONE WAS APPROVED A FEW YEARS AGO AND THEN LATER MORE RECENTLY AMENDED LAST YEAR. SO ONE THING IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THIS WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BARNEY'S CREEK WASH. SO THIS WILL BE THE MULTI-USE TRAIL AND THE SINGLE TRACK TRAIL ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THAT'LL BE FROM HIGHWAY 111 ALL THE WAY TO 6400 WEST, AND THEN WILL INCLUDE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PORTION, KIND OF IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THAT MASTER PLANNED AREA. SO THERE'S NO MULTIFAMILY IN THIS ONE. IT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY, LOW AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOTS. AND YEAH, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARK? VERY GOOD OKAY. NEXT IS THE CORRIDOR GENERAL PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT AND FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT. AND IT'S FOR THE CORRIDOR LAND USE DESIGNATION AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. APPROXIMATELY 56 ACRES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'LL BE ME. OH, OKAY. YES. WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS. FIRST, IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, THE TEXT AMENDMENT CREATING A CATEGORY CALLED CORRIDOR. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE CORRIDOR ZONE, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL A FEW MONTHS AGO TO ACTUALLY BE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS WELL. AND THEN WE'RE SEEKING TO ADD THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, APPROXIMATELY 56 ACRES ALONG REDWOOD ROAD. THIS IS NOT A ZONE CHANGE. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE REZONING ANYONE'S PROPERTY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHANGING ANY ALLOWED USES. THIS IS JUST SETTING THE STAGE FOR IF SOMEBODY WISHES TO REZONE IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THAT I THINK, WITH THE NOTICE. SO I'LL HIT ON THAT PRETTY HEAVILY DURING THE MEETING. BUT THIS IS NOT CHANGING ANYONE'S PROPERTY. IT JUST GIVES THEM SOME OPTIONS THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE TO UTILIZE IF THEY WANT TO. THERE'S NO PLANNED PROJECTS WITH THIS. THE CITY IS NOT PLANNING ON ACQUIRING ANY PROPERTIES OR DOING ANY DOMAIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS JUST PROVIDING PEOPLE OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE. SO I'M HAPPY ASKING QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, NEXT IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND CITY CODE TITLE 14 DASH FIVE FIVE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE NESTOR. YES. GOOD EVENING. THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE RELATED. THEY TAKE SOME IS OUR FIRST STEP TO CODIFY TRAFFIC CALMING, GIVING DIMENSIONS TO THE SPACE IN BETWEEN TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES. RIGHT NOW, THE CODE SAYS A BLOCK CAN BE 1000FT LONG, AS LONG AS 1000FT LONG OR 200FT MINIMUM LENGTH. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONTROL THE SPEED ANYMORE. WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL ACCELERATION. AND THROUGH A RESEARCH DONE BY A CONSULTANT CONSULTANT, WE CONCLUDED THAT NATIONWIDE, THE SPACING VARIES BETWEEN 400 TO 600FT FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. SO WE DECIDED TO ADOPT 500. SO THAT'S IS KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE CODE AMENDMENT IS REFERRING TO. ANY QUESTIONS FOR NESTOR ON THAT. OKAY. NEXT IS THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL. AND AGAIN NESTOR. YES, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THESE TWO ITEMS ARE RELATED. ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM WFC, WAS A REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THE INTENT WAS TO RESEARCH SPEEDING IN LOCAL ROADS, RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND KRISTA, MY COWORKER, SHE WAS THE APPLICANT AND SHE WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. AND WE HIRED CONSULTANTS. AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR, WE DID A LOT OF [00:10:04] RESEARCH. WE GATHERED A LOT OF DATA AND PUT TOGETHER THIS MANUAL THAT THE MAIN GOAL IS TO GIVE DEVELOPERS A MENU OF DIFFERENT TRAFFIC CALMING OPTIONS, AND ALSO AMENDING THE CODE WHERE WE NEEDED, LIKE THE SPACING BETWEEN THOSE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. THIS WILL ONLY APPLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT, THE EXISTING IS ALREADY MANAGED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, SO THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY EXISTING. CORRECT. THIS IS JUST FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. AND EVEN THE STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND THIS WILL NOT AFFECT THAT. CORRECT. OR IT WILL NOT. I CANNOT ENFORCE IT. RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS IS BEING REVIEWED FOR REVIEW FOR ADOPTION. BUT I HAVE TO SAY EVERY TIME I HAVE TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS, AND I RECOMMEND USING SOME OF THESE OPTIONS, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN FOR FOR REVIEWING THESE OPTIONS AND THE STANDARD DETAILS THAT WE ARE INCLUDING AS PART OF THE MANUAL. OKAY, NOW THIS IS A QUICK QUESTION. MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT FOR EXISTING, IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT SOME OF THOSE CALMING DEVICES IN, I REALIZE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. BUT. OR I'M ASSUMING THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. CORRECT. WHO WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT? JUST THE WHOEVER OWNS THAT PROPERTY OR THAT STREET? WELL, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. IT'S KIND OF A LONG PROCESS, BUT WE ARE ALSO CHANGING THAT. IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS FOR AN APPLICANT REQUESTING WHAT IS CALLED A SPEED STUDY. SOMEBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT SPEEDING IN PARTICULAR STREET, BUT WE IF THE SPEEDING IS TAKING PLACE, WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ENFORCEMENT AND WE CAN CONTINUE MONITORING THE SPEEDING UNTIL IT'S REDUCED TO A RANGE BETWEEN 25 TO 30. IF THE PROBLEM CONTINUES, THEN WE REQUEST AN APPLICATION THAT NEEDS THE SIGNATURES OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE ONE PETITION, ONE PETITION FILED BY ONE RESIDENT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT. THERE MAY BE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T AGREE WITH IT. SO WE WANT TO HEAR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORS, THE ENTIRE ALL ALL THE NEIGHBORS BEING IMPACTED BY THIS NEW TRAFFIC MEASURE. AND AND ALL THESE THREE YEARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH WITH THE CITY, I WENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WITH MAYOR BURTON. AND NOW GLORY BEFORE YOU AS ARIEL. AND IT'S FASCINATING WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THEIR CONCEPT OF SPEEDING. BUT IN 2023, I DID 107 SPEED STUDIES, WITH ONLY EIGHT OF THEM MEETING THE MINIMUM MINIMUM THRESHOLD FOR VOLUME AND SPEEDING. SO ABOUT 8% EFFICIENCY. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, 57 STUDY WITH 6%. SO THAT'S ABOUT 12% EFFICIENCY OF THE STUDIES. AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THIS YEAR, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME FOUR OUT OF 57. SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING IS NOT JUST SPEEDING. THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT VOLUME. THEY SEE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT IS CREATED BY THREE DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE IS THE BEGINNING OF A NEW SCHOOL SEASON, WITH NEW TRAFFIC GOING TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THE THEY SEE TRAFFIC THAT WERE NOT USED TO SEE DURING THE SUMMER. SO SEPTEMBER IS THE PEAK FOR THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS FOR SPEED STUDIES. THE SECOND ONE IS CONSTRUCTION ZONES. 1300 WEST IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND THE NORTHWEST OF THE CITY IS THE AREA WHERE WE GOT LOTS OF COMPLAINTS. AND THE MAIN REASON IS 13 WEST IS CLOSING, LANE IS CLOSING ROUTES AND PEOPLE FIND THEIR WAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHAT THEY ARE USED TO SEE 2 OR 300 CARS A DAY, NOW THEY SEE 1200 OR 2000 CARS A DAY. SO THEY HAVE A VALID REASON TO SEE WHY IS THAT TAKING PLACE. AND THE THIRD REASON IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY LIVE IN THE WEST SIDE NOW, FEELING LIKE THEY ARE AT THE BENCH. AND THEN WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE WE'RE MOVING IN THAT MOVES THE CENTER. I MEAN THAT WE ARE AT THE END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING TO NOW WE ARE IN THE CENTER. THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BRING CONTINUOUS AND PERMANENT TRAFFIC. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HANDLE THOSE IN IN THE WAY THEY ARE. THEY'RE BEING CREATED WITH TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION ZONES, FOR SCHOOL SYSTEM. WE MANAGE THOSE WITH POLICE ENFORCEMENT AND COORDINATED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FOR PERMANENT ONE WITH TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I COULD PROBABLY CHIME IN THERE TOO. WE HAD SOME TRAINING BEFORE ON THE PENDING REGULATION RULE THAT SEND THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT ACT, AND THESE TRAFFIC CALMING [00:15:04] MEASURES, BOTH THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE CITY CODE AND THE MANUAL, AS SOON AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA POSTED SEVERAL DAYS AGO, THEY BECAME PENDING REGULATIONS. AND SO ANY APPLICATION THAT WAS FILED AFTER THE AGENDA WAS POSTED COULD HAVE THESE NEW MEASURES APPLIED TO, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY COUNCIL HASN'T APPROVED IT THEM YET. JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF THAT. SO IT'S KIND OF A FIRST IN TIME WHEN THE AGENDA POSTS WITH IT ON, AND THEN ANY APPLICATION AFTER THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO. AND THEN OF COURSE, AS YOU MENTIONED, VOLUNTARY VOLUNTARILY, AN APPLICANT COULD COMPLY AS WELL IF HE WANTED TO. SO THANK YOU, DUNCAN. OKAY. AND LAST IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT MOTOR VEHICLE SALES IN THE C DASH M ZONE. AND IT IS GOING TO BE MAYOR LARRY. LARRY. SO PRESENT MOTOR VEHICLES ARE SALES AND SERVICES ARE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL SC2 AND SC3 ZONES. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOK A REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF A WHOLE. ON DIRECTION WHETHER THEY WOULD ALLOW THAT IN THE COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING ZONE WITH FOUR VOTES. THE CITY COUNCIL SAID YES TO TAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S THE REASON IT'S HERE FOR YOU. COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING DOES NOT. IT'S JUST NOT A HUGE ACREAGE ZONE IN OUR CITY. I THINK ALTOGETHER IT'S MAYBE ABOUT 75 OR 80 ACRES WITH A LARGE, PROBABLY 90% OF IT, 85 OR 90% OF IT ALREADY BEING USED AS ANOTHER TYPE OF USE IN THE CCM ZONE OR RETENTION PONDS, PARTS OF ROADWAYS, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE REQUEST IS, IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON ALLOWING A MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE IN THE CCM ZONE. SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR LARRY? GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THE VETERINARIAN SERVICES IN THE M ONE'S OWN CURRENTLY IN THE M ONE'S OWN. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ANIMAL GROOMED, YOU CAN KENNEL IT, OR YOU CAN CREATE IT, BUT YOU CANNOT GIVE IT HEALTH CARE. SO. AND SO THERE'S BEEN A WE'VE HAD REQUESTS OVER THE YEARS ABOUT WHY DON'T WE ALLOW VETERINARIAN SERVICES IN THE M ONE ZONE. AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THAT. SO THIS IS SIMPLY A RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW VETERINARIAN SERVICES IN THE M ONE ZONE IN THE CITY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR LARRY ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PRE MEETING AND WE'LL ADJOURN FOR APPROXIMATELY TEN MINUTES. CHAIR CAN I JUST SAY YES I'VE HEARD FROM BOTH JOHN ROBERTS AND JIMMY ANDERSON JIMMY WILL COME. HE'S HAD AN EMERGENCY AT WORK BUT HE'LL COME AS SOON AS HE CAN. AND THEN JOHN ROBERTS LIVES IN THAT AREA THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO HE SAID HE'LL COME LATE. I ALSO TOLD HIM HE COULD JOIN ONLINE TOO, IF HE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE ADJOURNED. FOR TEN MINUTES. ACTUALLY, NINE MINUTES NOW. RECORDING STOPPED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. SO THIS IS THE. [00:20:23] FIRST. UNDER YOUR NAME, AND I HAVE. YEAH. JUST JUST THEY HAVE. SO. YEAH. THIS. YEAH. WE'RE PRETTY. WELL THE. THERE'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY JUST. OVER. 100. AND. 35. I. HE WORE A GREEN SHIRT. YES. CAN YOU MOVE FORWARD. WITH. WHAT I THINK. THE NEXT. PROCESS. WAS FOR THEM. SO YES. LAID OUT. SO MY NUMBERS ARE. SO THAT. THE. [00:25:18] SAME THING. SO. 30. FOUR. 30. THREE. 40. FIVE. WHICH IS. NOT. TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE. TO. SO YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK IT WAS. THAT JUJITSU. YEAH. SO. THIS. THIS IS THIS IS RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS ONE HAS THE COMMENT THAT. YEAH. SO. I KNOW. SO YEAH. ARE YOU READY JULIE. RECORDING AND PROGRESS. [00:30:41] WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE WEST JORDAN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 2ND 2025. WE HAVE FOUR OF THE MEMBERS HERE WITH. COMMISSIONER ROBERTS IS ONLINE. SO AND WE HAVE ONE MORE [GENERAL MEETING 6:00 p.m.] COMMISSIONER THAT MAY BE HERE LATE. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND THE MAYOR HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO OFFER TO LEAD US. REGULATIONS BY STANDING. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. NEXT ON THE [Consent Calendar] AGENDA IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. DO WE HAVE ANY, COMMISSIONER HATCH? I'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER HOLLINGWORTH, I SECOND IT, A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. I HAVE TO DO THE LOOK AROUND AND [2. Aligned Energy Transmission Line; Continued from 7-15-25; 6600 West from Wells Park Road to 9800 South; Amended Conditional Use Permit granted on November 19, 2024, relocating the transmission line along 6600 West to the public right-of-way; [Megan Jensen #34762]] COUNT. SO. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING WITH A FINAL ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND IT IS ALIGNED. ENERGY TRANSMISSION LINE CONTINUED FROM JULY 15TH, 2025 FOR 6600 WEST FROM WELLS PARK ROAD TO 9800 SOUTH. AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT GRANTED ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2024. RE RELOCATING THE TRANSMISSION LINE ALONG THE 6600 WEST TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. MEGAN. OH, SORRY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM ALIGNED ENERGY? WE'LL LET YOU GO FIRST AND THEN SHE CAN FOLLOW UP. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. CHRISTOPHER COUGHLIN, ON BEHALF OF ALIGN DATA CENTERS, OUR CORPORATE OFFICES, 2800 PLANO, 2800 SUMMIT AVENUE, PLANO, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE 45 DAYS SO THAT WE COULD WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN IS STILL ALLOWS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WISH TO PROCEED WITH. AND WE HAVE, AS STATED EARLIER BY THE MAYOR, WE HAVE CONFERRED WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, NOVA, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER, AND BOTH ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE CONTEMPLATED MOVE HERE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD. WE OF COURSE WILL GO THROUGH ENGINEERING REVIEW AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO TONIGHT WE'RE JUST HERE ONLY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. WE WILL GO THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING REVIEW WITH BOTH ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER AND AND THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RELOCATION IS WITHIN THE STANDARDS AS, AS REQUIRED. ASIDE FROM THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO THANK YOU. MEGAN. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD. THE PROPOSAL IS THE SAME. AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE RECEIVED LETTERS IN FAVOR FROM NOVA AND ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE SAME CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO GET APPROVAL FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES FOR MOVING THOSE UTILITY LINES THAT NEED TO BE MOVED. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, APPROACH THE PODIUM. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. I TAKE IT THERE'S NOBODY. 20 MONTHS. OKAY. NOBODY HAS THEIR [00:35:14] HANDS RAISED. OKAY, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENTS AND OR MOTIONS. COMMISSIONER HATCH, SO CLOSE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND THE FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE AMENDED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE ALIGNED ENERGY TRANSMISSION LINE, LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY AT 6600 WEST FROM WELLS PARK ROAD TO 9800 SOUTH. WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THIS STAFF REPORT. MR. ALLEN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE VOICE FROM ABOVE. OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. THAT CARRIES [3. LP4 Dogtown Pet Spa & Resort; 8014 South Welby Park Drive #202; Conditional Use Permit for Pet Boarding; M-P Zone; LP4 Dogtown Pet Spa & Resort, Inc./Jared Hamilton (applicant) [Megan Jensen #34789; parcel 21-31-178-027]] FIVE. NOTHING. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS LP FOR DOGTOWN PET AND SPA RESORT, 8014 SOUTH BELLEVUE PARK DRIVE. UNIT NUMBER 202. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PET BOARDING AND AN M P ZONE LP FOR DOGTOWN SPA AND RESORT INCORPORATED. AND IT LOOKS LIKE JARED HAMILTON IS THE APPLICANT. OKAY, JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY. I AM AMANDA PATTON AND I'M THE APPLICANT FOR DOGTOWN PET SPA. DOGTOWN IS A BOUTIQUE STYLE PET CARE FACILITY OFFERING DAYCARE, BOARDING, AND GROOMING. OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE SAFE, CLEAN AND PROFESSIONALLY SUPERVISED CARE FOR PETS WHILE BEING A POSITIVE NEIGHBOR IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. OUR CLIENTELE ARE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS WHO WANT A SAFE, SUPERVISED ENVIRONMENT FOR THEIR PETS. WE ARE NOT A HIGH VOLUME KENNEL. WE LIMIT NUMBERS AND FOCUS ON QUALITY CARE, ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES AND STRICT SUPERVISION. THESE SERVICES MEET A GROWING COMMUNITY NEED WHILE ENHANCING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PET OWNING RESIDENTS. WE GROUP DOGS BY SIZE AND TEMPERAMENT AND KEEP STAFF TO DOG RATIOS LOW. INDOOR PLAY AREAS ARE CLIMATE CONTROLLED WITH ACOUSTIC TREATMENTS TO MINIMIZE NOISE. ALL DOGS ARE TEMPERAMENT TESTED AND STAFF ARE TRAINED IN SUPERVISION, SANITATION AND EMERGENCY RESPONSES FOR HUMANS AS WELL AS PETS. WE WILL FLOW. WE WE WILL FOLLOW STRICT CLEANING PROTOCOLS, A WASTE PICK UP IMMEDIATELY SAILED IN APPROVED CONTAINERS AND SURFACES DISINFECTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THIS PREVENTS ODORS, PESTS AND UNSANITARY CONDITIONS. PICKUPS AND DROP OFFS ARE STAGGERED FOR THE ANIMALS, SIMILAR TO A CHILD DAYCARE, REDUCING CONGESTION AND ADEQUATE ONSITE PARKING ENSURES CLIENTS CAN COME AND GO SAFELY WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH STREET TRAFFIC. OUR HOURS ARE 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M. FOR DAYCARE WITH QUIET, SUPERVISED OVERNIGHT BOARDING. WE ROTATE, PLAY AND REST PERIODS TO KEEP LEVELS OF NOISE DOWN, AND WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY UNUSUAL DEMANDS ON CITY SERVICES OR UTILITIES BEYOND A TYPICAL SMALL BUSINESS. IN SUMMARY, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE LOCATIONS. WE ARE IN SAINT GEORGE, SANDY AND SOUTH JORDAN. SO WE THIS IS JACKIE. THIS IS MY OUR FACILITY MANAGER. I THINK WE DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EXCEEDING CITY STANDARDS. OUR PRESENCE WILL REDUCE NUISANCE BARKING AT HOME BY GIVING THESE DOGS A SAFE PLACE FOR EXERCISE, SOCIALIZATION AND MENTAL STIMULATION. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP IN THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN BY BUILDING A STRONGER CANINE COMMUNITY, AND OUR GOAL IS NOT ONLY TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY STANDARDS, BUT ALSO A MODEL FOR OTHER PET CARE FACILITIES, AND WE CAN INTEGRATE THIS SEAMLESSLY INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE SITE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ON SHELBY DRIVE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU UP LATER. THANK YOU. MEGAN, THANK YOU. I'LL JUST FILL IN A FEW THINGS SO YOU CAN SEE THE SITE THERE JUST IN ONE UNIT. IT IS A MANUFACTURING PARK ZONE. [00:40:06] SO I'M UNSURE WHAT JUST HAPPENED. YOU CAN BLAME IT ON LARRY. OH. OH, SO YOU JUST HAVE TO HIT IT. OKAY. THIS IS THEIR FLOOR PLAN. LIKE YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LARGE SPACE FOR RECREATION KENNELS OF DIFFERING SIZES. SO JUST SOME GENERAL INFORMATION. THEY DO DOG DAYCARE, OVERNIGHT BOARDING, DOG TRAINING AND PET GROOMING. EVERYTHING WILL BE INDOORS, TYPICALLY BASED ON OTHER FACILITIES. THEY HAVE 12 DAYCARE DOGS AND 18 OVERNIGHT. SO 30 DOGS TOTAL. THEY HAVE THE LARGE OVERHEAD DOORS ON THE BUILDING, WHICH WILL REMAIN OPEN FOR AIRFLOW IN THE BUILDING, THERE ARE NEIGHBORS WILL BE MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL, A PRESCHOOL, HOT TUB STORE, AND THEN THERE'S A WOODWORKING SHOP IN THERE AS WELL. SHE, THE APPLICANT, WENT OVER THE HOURS OF OPERATION. THEY ANTICIPATE AROUND TEN CUSTOMERS PER HOUR AND 2 TO 4 EMPLOYEES ON SITE AT A TIME, SO WE DON'T THINK PARKING WILL BE AN ISSUE. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THESE SIX CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. NUMBER ONE, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT NOISE. LIKE THE APPLICANT STATED, THEY WILL SUPERVISE THE DOGS TO MINIMIZE EXCESSIVE BARKING. ALL ENCLOSURES, ALL ENCLOSURES WILL MEET OR EXCEED THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT. NO ANIMALS LEFT ALONE MORE THAN 24 HOURS OR OUTSIDE WITHOUT THE STAFF PRESENT. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE OVERHEAD DOOR WILL REMAIN OPEN AND THEN THE QUIET TIME OVERNIGHT. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DAYCARE ALSO FOR CHILDREN. WHEREABOUTS IS THIS LOCATED RELATED TO THE DAYCARE? YEAH. LET ME GO BACK TO THE SITE. SO THE HOT TUB STORE IS JUST LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST. THE LITTLE LEARNERS ACADEMY IS JUST DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTHWEST. AND THEN THE MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO NEXT TO THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PLEASE? YES. I JUST WONDER IF THIS IS A WORDING ISSUE. NUMBER THREE NO ANIMAL SHALL BE LEFT ALONE. I THINK THAT SHOULD JUST BE PERIOD OR UNATTENDED. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE 24 HOURS MATTERS BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING OR PRESUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, ANIMAL WILL BE LEFT ALONE OR UNSUPERVISED. SO THE 24 HOURS JUST CONFUSES THAT CONDITION. OKAY. YEAH, WE COULD REMOVE THAT WORDING FROM THE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALLEN. FOLLOWING UP ON THAT ONE, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS TOO THOUGH. MY MY QUESTION REGARDING THAT IS WHAT IS THE INTENTION? IS THIS LOCATION INTENDED TO BE PHYSICALLY HAVE A PERSON THERE PHYSICALLY 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK? YES THEY ARE. AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ANIMALS WILL BE UNATTENDED. THIS IS A PRECEDENT FROM ANOTHER SIMILAR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. WE DID JUST TO BE EXTRA CAUTIOUS I GUESS. OKAY, SO I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AS WELL ON NUMBER. I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF FOUR AND SIX, SO NO ANIMAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED OUTSIDE WITHOUT STAFF PRESENT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. LET ME GO DOWN TO QUIET TIME. NO DOGS OUTSIDE EXCEPT TO POTTY. WHERE DO THE DOGS POTTY? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'LL BE GOING OUTDOORS. THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL PUT A TAB ON THAT ONE. AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT [00:45:04] PROPER SCREENING TO KEEP PETS INDOORS ON NUMBER FIVE, WHAT WHAT IS STAFF THINKING WITH THAT PROP. WHAT WHAT IS PROPER. SURE. I ENVISION SOME SORT OF FENCING. THAT THEY CAN SET UP JUST SO THAT THE DOGS CAN'T GET OUT. THE APPLICANT MIGHT ALSO HAVE AN IDEA, BUT WE CAN WORK THAT OUT AS WELL. OR IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS PROPER AND I FEEL THE SAME AS YOU, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME WAY THAT THEY DON'T GET OUT. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE FAIRLY TALL FOR SOME OF THE DOGS THAT CAN JUMP, PROBABLY PRIVACY SCREENING SLATS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. SO ALL RIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT YOU WERE THINKING. SO THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HATCH. COMMISSIONER ALLEN RAISED ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD. THE OVERHEAD DOOR SHALL STAY OPEN DURING DAYTIME HOURS, WEATHER PERMITTING. AGAIN, HAVING TAKEN MY DOG TO A KENNELS WITH BIG DOORS THAT CAN OPEN. I'M CONCERNED WITH THE FRESH AIR FLOW. THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH WITH THE DOOR CLOSED. SO IF THE IF THERE IS EXCESSIVE BARKING THEY CAN CLOSE THE DOORS. IS THAT I MEAN, IS THAT AM I BEING AM I OVERSTATING THE OBVIOUS. NO, I THINK THAT THEY CAN THEY HAVE PROPOSED IN THEIR APPLICATION TO KEEP THEM OPEN. IF THERE IS A NOISE ISSUE AND AND THAT WILL HELP, THEN WE COULD HAVE THEM CLOSE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH, IN RELATION TO THAT, WITH THE DOORS BEING OPEN, COULD YOU GO TO THE DIAGRAM OF THE LAYOUT? WHERE WHERE ARE THE DOORS IN RELATION TO THE INDIVIDUAL KENNELS AND THE RECREATION AREA, PLAY AREA, WHATEVER FOR THE DOGS. SO THE ENTRANCE IS ON THAT, THE BOTTOM PORTION AND THEN THE DOORS ARE ON THE TOP PORTION, WHICH IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING FACING WELBY PARK. OKAY. SO THAT DOOR IS OPEN. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO CONTAIN THE DOGS IN THAT THAT COMMON AREA THERE? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS ANSWERING, COMMISSIONER ALLEN, ABOUT SOME SORT OF SCREENING FENCE. I THINK THAT THEY COULD SET UP INSIDE THE BUILDING TO KEEP THE DOGS IN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALLEN. COMMISSIONER HOLLANDSWORTH IS LOOKING AT THE DIAGRAM HERE, I BELIEVE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU SAW HOW THERE WAS ANOTHER BUILDING JUST TO THE SOUTH OF HERE, THE LITTLE MAN DOOR THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THERE, THAT IS BEHIND THAT OTHER BUILDING. PART OF THE ROLL UP DOOR IS EITHER RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE BUILDING OR PARTIALLY COVERED UP BY IT. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN ALLEYWAY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. AND CHAIR. THERE IS SOMEBODY ONLINE. SORRY THEY HAD THEIR HANDS. I'M NOT SURE IT MIGHT BE AN APPLICANT FOR LORNA CHRISTIANSEN. IS SHE AN APPLICANT OR NOT? OKAY. SHE RUNS THE PRESCHOOL. OH. THE PRESCHOOL. OKAY, WELL, THEN WE'LL TAKE. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE SPEAK FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND. OKAY. MY NAME IS THOMAS ZIMMERMAN. I AM THE OWNER OF 205 8014 WILLOUGHBY PARK DRIVE. AND I'M NOT REAL EXCITED ABOUT A LOT OF DOGS I HAVE. I'LL STATE I HAVE A COMMON WALL WITH THE PROPOSED AREA, AND I'M NOT. ALONG WITH. THERE'S ALSO TWO OTHER UNITS THAT HAVE COMMON WALLS. I'M NOT REAL EXCITED ABOUT DOGS BARKING AND HEARING THAT IN MY UNIT FOR MY TENANTS. I PERSONALLY AM OPPOSED TO IT. I THINK IT'S A POOR CHOICE OF A PLACE TO PUT SUCH A KENNEL WHERE YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL PEOPLE WORKING THAT ARE GOING TO HEAR THE NOISE. AND EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN SAY, WELL, THERE WILL BE A SUPERVISOR THERE 24 HOURS, YOU CAN'T STOP DOGS FROM BARKING. AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THEM. AND. I'M [00:50:04] JUST OPPOSED TO IT. I THINK IT'S A POOR CHOICE OF A PLACE TO PUT IT. IT WASN'T ZONED FOR THAT AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE USED FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE AUDIENCE? MATTHEW VENRAY. WE'RE TOM'S TENANT. WE RUN THE WOOD SHOP. SO WE IF YOU SEE THE FLOOR PLAN THE LINE WITH THE MOST KENNELS. THAT'S THE WALL THAT WE SHARE WITH THEM. I GUESS MY MAIN CONCERN. SO OUR OTHER SHARED WALL IS WITH THE HOT TUB PLACE. AND WHENEVER THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A HOT TUB, WATER GOES ON THE GROUND AND COMES UNDER THE WALLS AND THE WALLS ARE JUST TWO PIECES OF DRYWALL AND FRAMING BETWEEN THEM. SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, IT COMES UNDER THE WALLS. AND WE'VE HAD THAT SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE HOT TUB PLACES, SO I HAVE TO MOVE EVERYTHING OUT OF THE WAY, CLEAN UP THE MESS, GO OVER THERE, HELP THEM CLEAN UP THE MESS. AND SO IT'S KIND OF A KIND OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE SHARED WALLS AND IT'S JUST TWO SHEETS OF DRYWALL. SO I WONDER WHAT WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR CONTAINMENT. JUST FLUID LIQUID CONTAINMENT ON ON THE FLOORS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY, HOW THEY DO THAT. AND THEN ALSO, I'M NOT SURE IF EACH LITTLE CUBE IS A KENNEL, BUT IS THERE IS THERE ANY KIND OF OCCUPANCY STANDARDS FOR I MEAN, HOW MANY DOGS CAN BE IN THAT BUILDING? WHAT'S THE OCCUPANCY LIMIT FOR DOGS? BECAUSE I, I CAN'T COUNT ALL THOSE VERY WELL, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY DOGS A BUILDING OF THAT SIZE COULD MANAGE OCCUPANCY WISE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MEASUREMENTS OF THOSE KENNELS ARE, HOW BIG THOSE ARE, OR HOW SMALL THEY ARE. THEY LOOK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WALL. THEY LOOK REALLY, REALLY SMALL IN THAT DIAGRAM BECAUSE THAT WALL IS NOT THAT BIG. LET'S SEE IF I HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OH, THE OTHER WALL ON THE OTHER SIDE IS, IS THE DAYCARE. THEY ARE RIGHT NEXT TO LITTLE LEARNERS. AND OUR SON GOES THERE AND SO AND YOU CAN HEAR YOU CAN HEAR A LOT THROUGH ALL THE WALLS. AND ALSO THE WHOLE BUILDING WITH ALL THE SHARED WALLS HAS, HAS A LOT OF SHARED SYSTEMS LIKE THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS ALL IS ALL, ALL OF IT IS FOR THE SAME BUILDING. AND SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS THERE OR HAPPENS IN LITTLE LEARNERS OR HAPPENS WITH US OR WITH THE HOT DOG GUYS, WE ALL KIND OF GET WARNING BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SHARED BUILDING. AND SO MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE MESS, POSSIBLY AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF NOISE, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT HOW MANY WHAT THEIR STANDARD IS AS FAR AS HOW MANY THEY PLAN TO HOUSE THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND SO, I MEAN, THAT WOULD REALLY JUST BE A QUESTION FOR, FOR DOG TIME. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. THE PERSON ON THE LINE THAT RAISED THEIR HAND. YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN GO AHEAD. YEAH. GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS LANA CHRISTIANSEN, AND I AM THE OWNER AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE LEARNERS ACADEMY, WHICH IS, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THIS MEETING, THE UNIT RIGHT NEXT TO TO THE WEST OF THIS OF THIS UNIT. THIS IS A VERY LARGE UNIT. IT'S TWICE THE SIZE OF MY SCHOOL. AND SO IT WILL HOUSE A LOT OF THOUGHTS. I MEAN, IT COULD POSSIBLY I HAVE JUST A FEW POINTS I WANTED TO BRING UP. I DO HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS. AND I DO APOLOGIZE TO DOGTOWN PARK. I LOVE DOGS, I HAVE FOUR OF MY OWN. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THIS. I JUST AGREE WITH WHAT WAS STATED BY AN EARLIER OWNER THAT IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M THERE, AND RIGHT WEST OF ME ON THE END OF THE BUILDING IS THE ACADEMY WEST ARTS STUDIO. NOW WE WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR CLASSES IN THE EVENING AND WE HAVE OUR CLASSES DURING THE DAY. THE WALLS, AS I'VE STATED, ARE VERY THIN. YOU CAN HEAR EVERYTHING THROUGH THE WALLS. SO IF WE'RE THERE AT NIGHT WHEN KARATE IS DOING THEIR THING, WE HEAR, YEAH, THROUGH THE WALLS. AND SO IF THEY'RE THERE DURING THE DAY, THEY HEAR, WHAT DOES THE A SAY? HEY, I'M ADDRESSING OUR ALPHABET SO YOU CAN HEAR THROUGH THE WALLS. IT'S WORKED WELL. THE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN IN THAT UNIT IN THE PAST THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WAREHOUSE BUSINESSES. SO THEY YOU KNOW, WE DON'T BOTHER THEM. ONE OF THE TENANTS THAT WAS THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE WAS TRIM LIGHTS, AND THEY WERE VERY COURTEOUS TO DO ALL THE MACHINERY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WALL OF WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE BUILDING, WE COULD HEAR THAT MACHINERY IN SLIGHTLY, VERY LIGHTLY, BUT WE COULD STILL [00:55:02] HEAR IT IN OUR IN OUR CLASSROOMS. SO WE WILL HEAR THE DOGS BARK. THAT'S JUST A FACT. THE WAY THE WALLS ARE AND THE WAY THE BUILDING IS MADE, WE WILL HEAR THAT. AND THAT IS A VERY LARGE CONCERN FOR ME, AS I'M VERY PROTECTIVE OF MY STUDENTS AND MY FAMILIES, AND I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THEIR LEARNING EXPERIENCE. WE ARE NOT JUST A DAYCARE, WE'RE ACTUALLY A SCHOOL. AND SO THEY ARE THERE TO LEARN THEIR FUNDAMENTALS, AND WE DO REALLY WELL WITH THAT. IN 19 YEARS WE'VE BEEN IN THIS BUILDING, 25 YEARS WE'VE BEEN IN WEST JORDAN. SO WE HAVE A VERY GOOD REPUTATION. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M SO SUPPORTIVE OF ANOTHER SMALL BUSINESS. I'M NOT OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE I DON'T SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS. I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD FIT. THEY'RE GOING TO RUN INTO A LOT OF PROBLEMS, AND WE WILL BE DODGING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MAKE THEIR BUSINESS WORK WITHOUT BOTHERING THE NEIGHBORS, IS WHAT I'M SEEING, IS WHAT I'M I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING WOULD HAPPEN. THE OTHER SECOND CONCERN FOR ME IS THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC. THEY SAID THEY HAVE 8 TO 10 DOGS COMING AND GOING AT A TIME EVERY HOUR. WE ONLY HAVE FOUR PARKING STALLS IN FRONT OF EACH UNIT, SO THERE ARE EIGHT PARKING STALLS IN FRONT OF ME AND TAEKWONDO, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR NAMES ON THEM SHARED BECAUSE OF OUR SCHEDULE BEING AS IT IS OPPOSITE, SO IT WORKS WELL. THERE ARE ONLY FOUR STALLS IN FRONT OF THAT UNIT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALMOST 8000 SQUARE FOOT UNIT. AND SO OKAY, YOUR YOUR TIME IS UP. SORRY. YEAH. AND THEN SANITATION. BUT THEY WENT OVER THAT SO THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO OUTSIDE FOR THE DOGS PERIOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE. NO ONE ELSE HAS A HAND RAISED. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENTS AND OR MOTIONS. AND JUST AS A RECORD, WE DID HAVE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON JOIN US. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ALLEN. SO. DO YOU WANT EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY? YEAH. SO THIS THIS IS A COME ON UP A USE THAT IS HOW DO WE PHRASE THIS? THIS IS A USE THAT IS APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE ZONE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IN THE CODE. IT'S JUST A CONDITIONAL USE, MEANING THAT IF WE IDENTIFY CONDITIONS THAT OR SORRY, IF WE IDENTIFY ISSUES WITH THE USE, THEN CONDITIONS MAY BE IMPOSED IN ORDER TO ALLOW IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO YES I WAS GOING TO SAY CAN WE BRING UP THE APPLICANT. SO HERE THEY ARE. GREAT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MAYBE BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THOSE. YOU HEARD A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS AS WELL OR THE CONCERNS. HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE? TO THE CONDITIONAL USES? BECAUSE THERE IS A CLARIFICATION ON THERE. SO WHEN IT SAYS NO ANIMAL SHALL BE LEFT ALONE UNATTENDED FOR MORE THAN 24 HOURS, THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT THE ANIMALS ARE LEFT. WE DON'T HAVE A PERSON ON SITE 24 HOURS AND WE HAVEN'T IN THREE OF OUR LOCATIONS. THEY LEAVE AT SIX AND THEY COME BACK AT 630 IN THE MORNING. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THAT ONE DIFFERENTLY. THE NO ANIMALS LEFT OUTSIDE WITHOUT STAFF, THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS SITUATION OR ANOTHER BUILDING SITUATION. THERE'S NO DOGS THAT GO OUT OF THE FACILITIES WITHOUT A LEAD ON THEM. SO A TECHNICAL SLIP LEADER, A LEASH. SO THERE'S LITTLE ROOM FOR ERROR ON THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT BUSY ROADS, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT. I DON'T IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A BUSY ROAD OR A PARKING LOT. SO THAT IS A HUGE THING FOR ALL THREE OF OUR FACILITIES. THE OVERHEAD DOOR IS A BIG GARAGE DOOR, SO THAT WAS AIRFLOW. BUT YEAH, IF THERE WAS A BARKING ISSUE THAT WOULD NEED TO TO COME DOWN. YEAH, I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE. SORRY TO INTERRUPT A LITTLE BIT BUT THE VENTILATION. HOW WAS THE VENTILATION IN THERE WITH THE DOORS ALL CLOSED. THEY'VE GOT AIR CONDITIONING. THEY'VE GOT UNITS IN THERE. SO THERE IS. YEAH THERE IS FLOW OKAY. BUT SOMETIMES WE LIKE FRESH AIR TOO. AND THEN ON THAT DOOR WOULD BE WHERE A EIGHT FOOT CHAIN LINK SCREEN WOULD BE PUT ACROSS THAT TO ALLEVIATE THAT. ALSO IN ALL OF THE FACILITIES WE HAVE, YOU WOULD COME IN A DOOR, THERE WOULD BE THE FRONT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A HOLDING PLACE IN BETWEEN, SO THAT IF YOU DID HAVE A DOG DO SOMETHING, YOU'VE GOT JUMPERS, YOU'VE GOT RUNNERS, YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY. THERE IS SAFETY NETS ALONG THE WAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE JUST A DOG AND DART OUT, DART OUT A DOOR. SO THOSE ARE IN PLACE. AND THEN THE QUIET TIME JACKIE [01:00:02] AND I WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO QUIET TIME OBVIOUSLY FOR REASONS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE PUT ON CLASSICAL MUSIC FOR THE DOGS. THEY REALLY TO AGITATE A DOG WOULD BE SOMEBODY COMING INTO THE FACILITY THAT THEY DON'T KNOW OR THEY'RE UNAWARE ARE COMING. HOW WOULD YOU HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? THE MORNINGS ARE QUITE LOUD. I'M NOT GONNA LIE. WE LET THEM OUT POTTY. THEY GET EXCITED BECAUSE IT'S MORNING TIME, THEN THEY EAT, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THEM OUT FOR THE DAY, AND OUR JOB IS TO GIVE THEM AN ENRICHMENT PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE DAY, KEEP THEM OCCUPIED. WE PLAY GAMES WITH THEM. WE PLAY BUBBLES WITH THEM. WE GET THEM. WE GET THEM TIRED BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT IS OUR JOB. SO THEY SLEEP AT NIGHT AND WE MONITOR THEM VIA CAMERA OVERNIGHT. AND I CHECK THEM ALL THE TIME. AND THEY ARE THEY'RE SLEEPING. SO QUIET TIME REALLY DOES MEAN QUIET TIME. JUST BECAUSE WE DID OUR JOB THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO. AND COULD THAT DIAGRAM BE MODELED DIFFERENTLY WHERE THE KENNELS WOULD UP THE MIDDLE. THAT COULD HAPPEN FOR WATER. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, STEAM CLEANING, SANITATION, MAKING SURE THE YARDS ARE SANITIZED, SPRAYED DOWN, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO WET DRY VAC THAT UP AND PUT IT DOWN, YOU KNOW, A SEWER DRAIN. THERE'S ALSO A RUBBER MATTING THAT CAN BE PUT UP NEXT TO THE DRYWALL SO THAT IF WATER WERE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. THERE'S A RUBBER MATTING THAT CAN BE PUT UP THAT IT WOULD COME BACK INTO THE MIDDLE. SO THAT HAS BEEN DEFINITELY TALKED ABOUT. AND. KENNELS, WHEN THEY PUT DOWN THEY'RE SEALED AS WELL, LIKE ON THE BOTTOM WITH SILICONE TO KEEP THE MOISTURE IN THAT KENNEL. SO AND THEN THERE WAS OTHER QUESTIONS. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY WERE OCCUPANCY. SO TYPICALLY WE HAVE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, A BOARDING WE CAN SAY THERE'S BETWEEN WHAT, 1515 TO 20 BOARDING DOGS. AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT 15 REGULAR REGULAR DAYCARE DOGS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 35. WHERE ARE THOSE KENNELS? COULD BECOME MORE WOULD BE ON A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A JUMP, YOU KNOW, TO 50 KENNELS. THAT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF MID-SIZE TO LARGE DOGS. AND ALSO IT'S SET THE WAY THAT THAT'S BROKEN DOWN IS INTO SMALL DOGS. SO YOU COULD HAVE CHIHUAHUA SIZE UP TO A SAINT BERNARD ON ONE SIDE. NOT VERY LIKELY, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE COULD SPIKE. BUT TYPICALLY WE HAVE BETWEEN 30 AND 35 DOGS DAILY. SO SO I SHARE ONE CONCERN, AT LEAST ONE CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND THAT IS LOCATION. I SEE THE I UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION HERE BEING ABSOLUTELY PERFECT FROM A DROP OFF PICKUP STANDPOINT. IT'S VERY CONDUCIVE TO THAT USE. BUT THERE'S NO GRASS ANYWHERE AROUND. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EXERCISE AND THE LETTING THEM OUTSIDE TO DO THEIR DUTY. WHERE DOES THAT HAPPEN? ARE YOU MEANING LIKE WHEN THEY DROP OFF IN THE MORNING OR JUST ALTOGETHER? BECAUSE LIKE OUR SOUTH JORDAN LOCATION ONLY HAS ROCK OUT FRONT AND WE I MEAN, WE LOOK EVERY TIME A DOG IS BASICALLY DROPPED OFF IF THEY USE THE RESTROOM OUTSIDE AND WE CLEAN IT UP, IF NOT, THEY DO. BUT AS FAR AS LIKE USING THE RESTROOM DURING LIKE PLAYGROUP, IF THEY GO TO THE OR LIKE GO POTTY AND WE, WE JUST CLEAN IT UP AND GET IT IN A BUCKET FOR THE DAY. LIKE OUR TRASH BUCKETS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE THEM OUTSIDE TO GO POTTY. WE JUST MOP IT UP WITH OUR SANITATION. WE SCOOP IT UP AND PUT IT IN OUR TRASH BINS SO WE WOULDN'T BE LIKE TAKING THE DOGS OUTSIDE POTTY WHERE THERE'S LIKE RISK OF THEM, LIKE GETTING LOOSE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE IN OUR PLAY YARD. WE HAVE TURF AND WE CAN USE IT AND WE CLEAN IT UP. SO SAME INSIDE. THE EXERCISE IS ESSENTIALLY ALL THE EXERCISE AND EVERYTHING IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF IN THEIR APPROPRIATE SIZE YARDS. SO LARGE DOGS, LITTLE DOGS. SO THEY'RE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PLAY AREAS. HOW MUCH NOISE DOES THAT GENERATE DURING THE PLAYTIME. LIKE I SAID WE OUR JOB IS TO GET THEM TIRED. SO WE WE PLAY WITH THEM ALL DAY LONG TO GET THEM GET THEIR BRAINS MOVING. SO WE HAVE GAMES AND WE HAVE BUBBLES AND WE PLAY WITH WATER IF WE NEED TO. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL DO THAT THERE. SO BUT BUBBLES ARE A BIG PART OF OUR DAY. GETTING THEM TIRED. PLAYING WITH PONGS WE USE PONGS FOR ENRICHMENT, SO THEY HAVE AGILITY COURSES THAT THEY'LL USE, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE THAN JUST DROPPING YOUR DOG OFF AND LETTING THEM RUN AMOK. SO THERE IS STRUCTURED PLAY. THEY DO GO DOWN FOR A REST TIME. IS IT 11, 12, 11, THREE? SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE BREAKS TOO. HONESTLY, IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT YOUR DOG BEING A PERMANENT THREE YEAR OLD, I'M LIKE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET. WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THREE FACILITIES. IF THEY GET OVERSTIMULATED, THEY'RE GOING TO START TO FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER. SO THE [01:05:03] TEMPERAMENT TESTS ARE, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THAT, THE HANDLERS, THE WAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED AND KEEPING THOSE DOGS MOVING FOLLOW THE LEADER SEEMS GOOFY. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A PACK OF DOGS THAT ARE JUST WORKING THEIR LITTLE HEARTS OUT AND THEIR LITTLE BRAINS, 15 MINUTES OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR TO TWO HOURS OF WALKING. SO THINK OF US DOING YOUR JOB LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME AND DO THAT. AND WE LOVE TO GET THE PICTURES WHERE THE DOGS HAVE PUDDLED THEY LITERALLY WILL GO HOME AND THEY'RE JUST DONE. WE WE LOVE SEEING THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, IF OUR JOB IS WELL DONE, THEN THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE ISSUE. LIKE JACKIE SAID, THE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. YEAH. THEY'RE EXCITED. EVERYBODY'S TOGETHER. YOU'RE GOING OUT. YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS, GETTING READY FOR BREAKFAST. SO IT'S IT'S THE SAME AT MY HOUSE. I'M LIKE, I'VE GOT A SIX YEAR OLD. I'M LIKE, I HAVE A 23 YEAR OLD AND A SIX YEAR OLD. SO IT'S HAVOC. BUT YEAH, SAME WITH THE DOGS. SO THE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE TIMES I WANT TO REPEAT AND JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE CAN TYPICALLY EXPECT MORE NOISE OR THE MOST NOISE BETWEEN ABOUT 6:30 A.M. AND 11 A.M. AND AGAIN FROM 12 TO 2 AND THEN FROM 3 TO 6. YEAH, I MEAN 630 TO 8, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE LOUDEST. AND THEN WE HAVE THEM OUT PLAYING. SO THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY QUIET WHEN WE'RE LIKE GETTING THEM MOVING BECAUSE THEY'RE OCCUPIED. AND THEN THEY USUALLY TAKE A NAP AT 11. THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY QUIET. AND THEN 2 TO 3 AS WELL IS LIKE NAP TIME, BREAK TIME. SO THEY'RE PRETTY QUIET. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE THE OCCASIONAL BARKING JUST BECAUSE EXCITED DOGS COMING IN OR WHATNOT. BUT AS FAR AS A CONSISTENT BARKING, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO I MEAN, CURRENTLY AT OUR CURRENT LOCATION, IT QUIETS DOWN. AND THEN WHEN I'M THINKING OF IT, I'M THINKING OF GOING INTO THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND YOU OPEN THE DOOR AND IT IS A CONSTANT BARK. BUT THOSE DOGS ARE ALL EXCITED. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO PEOPLE ARE, AND THEY'RE ALL KENNELED. OURS ARE NOT THEY'RE NOT SITTING IN KENNELS ALL DAY LONG. THEY'RE GOING TO A KENNEL TO TAKE A REST PERIOD FROM EACH OTHER. SO YEAH. OKAY. WHAT KIND OF TENANTS OR TENANTS NEIGHBORS DO YOU HAVE AT YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS? ANYTHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT? SO OUR SANDY LOCATION IS INDUSTRIAL, JUST LIKE THIS ONE. THERE'S THERE'S STILL SOME HOUSES, BUT NEXT DOOR IS LIKE A WELDING PLACE. BUT THERE'S OUR SOUTH JORDAN LOCATION IS NEXT TO A RESTAURANT, SAINT GEORGE. PARDON ME. SAINT GEORGE IS NEXT TO A RESTAURANT AND A RETAIL SHOP AND AN AUTO BODY SHOP. BARBER. THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. ALSO, WHEN WE SAID TEN CARS, IT'S TRICKLED THROUGHOUT THAT HOUR. SO IT MAY BE 1 TO 2 CARS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE DROP OFF AT 7:00 PROBABLY UNTIL 830, 8:45. AND THEN IT REALLY DROPS OFF. IN BUSINESS, YOU MAY SEE SOME STAGGER, AND THEN YOU'LL GET THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND THEN SOUTH JORDAN IS OUT BY ITSELF. THE DANCE STUDIO, GYMNASTICS STUDIO. BUT IT'S MORE OF AN INDUSTRIAL. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR RIGHT NOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER HATCH? OH GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. JUST GOING BACK TO YOUR PARKING, THE PARKING ISSUE. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE SO YOU ARE AWARE YOU HAVE FOUR SPACES AND WE DO AT THE OTHER LOCATIONS TOO. OKAY. AND THEN WHERE WILL EMPLOYEES PARK? THEY WOULD HAVE TO PARK AROUND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. BACK OF THE BUILDING. SO THOSE FOUR SPACES ARE JUST FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN DROP OFF. TIMES VARY BUT IT'S ABOUT A 5 TO 7 MINUTE DROP OFF. THEY COME IN UNLESS IT'S A NEW PERSON IT'S VERY QUICK TURNAROUND. SO. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON THOSE ARE THE LOCATIONS I THINK SAINT GEORGE WHERE YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT, ARE THOSE ATTACHED UNITS LIKE THIS IS OR ARE THEY ALL DETACHED? THEY'RE DETACHED, BUT BASICALLY AN ALLEY NEXT TO EACH OTHER. THERE'S A DRIVE THROUGH RIGHT TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY LOCATIONS WHERE YOU ARE ATTACHED TO OTHER BUSINESSES? NO. OKAY. AND THEN JUST A CLARIFICATION ON YOUR 24 HOUR COMMENT. DO YOU STAFF IT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK? WE STAFF AT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. YEAH. OKAY. SO 6 P.M. TO 6:30 A.M. THE NEXT MORNING. THAT'S THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 12.5 HOURS. SO YOU'D STILL BE FINE ON 24 HOURS, RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLARIFIED BECAUSE I DIDN'T. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. SO I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE THE NOISE ISSUE, BUT NOT FROM YOU TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, BUT FROM YOUR NEIGHBOR TO YOU. SO IF THEY'RE RUNNING SORES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, HOW'S THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE DOGS DURING THE NAP TIME? IS THAT GOING TO BECOME A PROBLEM TO YOU? I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TUNE IT OUT HONESTLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR LITTLE MUSIC GOING AND OKAY, HAVE YOU EVER WANT TO CALM IT DOWN A DOG? CLASSICAL MUSIC DOES WONDERS [01:10:06] LIKE IT DOES A GREAT JOB. OKAY. AND THEN IF THERE WAS A A CONDITION TO PUT SOME NOISE ABATEMENT ON THAT WALL, OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE IF IT WAS THAT WE'D HAVE TO PUT UP SOME PANELING. SOME ACOUSTIC PANELING. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSIONS? CHAIR. YES. OH, SORRY. SORRY. I THINK WE NEED TO ADD A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS FOR MY COMFORT LEVEL. I THINK WE NEED TO ADD THAT THEY SEAL THE FLOORS SO THAT IF THERE IS LIQUID OR WASTE THAT FLOWS TO THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT IT'S SEALED. I UNDERSTAND THE KENNELS ARE SEALED. SO THAT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. AND THEN AS FAR AS NOISE ABATEMENT, I LOVE YOUR QUESTION AND YOUR ANSWER TO PUT UP ACOUSTIC PANELS. BUT I THINK THAT MAY ALSO NEED TO HAPPEN IS TO PUT UP SOME ACOUSTIC PANELS. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO THOUGHTS. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS ALSO, AS FAR AS THE NOISE. AND I DO BELIEVE THE ACOUSTIC PANELS WOULD PROBABLY MITIGATE, IF NOT ALL, MOST OF THAT NOISE. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'VE GOT THE. THE PROPER SCREENING, BUT THEN WE'RE TALKING ACOUSTIC PANELS ALONG THE WALLS IN ANY AREA WHERE THERE'S KENNELS ALL THE WAY TO THE CEILING, FLOOR TO CEILING. I THINK DEPENDING ON WHAT IS NEEDED. I MEAN, I THINK IF THE THE RESIDENTS TO EITHER SIDE ARE SAYING IT'S NOT WORKING, YOU NEED TO ADD MORE. I THINK WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEY COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M WONDERING, HAVING SEEN THESE KINDS OF BUILDINGS BEFORE WHERE IT'S REALLY JUST A STRUCTURE, AND THEN THEY PUT A COUPLE OF WALLS IN BETWEEN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FRAMING. I'M WONDERING IF ACOUSTIC PANELING WOULD EVEN BE ENOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS. STOP SOUND OR BLOCK SOUND. IT CAN ECHO. AND IF WE STILL HAVE A GAP IN THE TOP IN THE CEILING, IT COULD STILL END UP GOING OVER PRETTY EFFECTIVELY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING OR GETTING AROUND THE SOUND. EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK WE'VE GOT GOOD MITIGATION MEASURES FOR. HAVE YOU TAKEN YOUR DOG TO A KENNEL BEFORE? NO. OKAY. WE USED TO TAKE OUR DOGS TO KENNELS ALL THE TIME, AND THEY REALLY ARE EXCITED WHEN SOMEONE NEW COMES OR WHEN THEY'RE JUST DROPPED OFF, OR WHEN SOMEONE'S COMING TO TAKE THEM HOME AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE COMING. BUT I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, I'VE BEEN REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE KENNELS WE'VE USED AS FAR AS HOW THEY MANAGE THE DOGS, AND IT SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THIS KENNEL IS PROPOSING, VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. THEY ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE YOUR DOGS ARE SAFE AND HAPPY, AND A BARKING DOG DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN A HAPPY DOG. SO. STAFF HAS TO BE TRAINED THERE. THERE'S I MEAN THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN GUIDELINES. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NOISE IF IF THEY CAN WORK WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS TO SOLVE IT. AND THE ACOUSTIC PANELING SEALING THE FLOOR, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IS NEEDED. I HAVE A COMMENT. GO AHEAD. SO IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT ALL OF THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT SOUND CARRYING AND WHATNOT, THERE'S THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED, WHICH IS THAT THEY'RE IF THEY'RE STAFFING HOURS ARE GOING TO BE FROM 6:30 A.M. TO 6 P.M. THAT MEANS I'LL MEET ALL EVENING LONG WHEN THE TAEKWONDO STUDIO IS IN SESSION. THERE'S NOBODY THERE, AND PRESUMABLY NOT MUCH ACCOUNTABILITY IF THOSE ARE LOUD AND SO ON. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO DEAL WITH THAT THANK. YEAH. COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, I THINK TAEKWONDO IS GOING TO BE LOUDER THAN DOGS. THAT'S JUST MY I AGREE YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT. I JUST IT'S PROBABLY NOT A HUGE CONCERN. BUT IT POPPED INTO MY HEAD, SO I FIGURED THAT I SHOULD AT LEAST MENTION IT. DEFINITELY WORTH MENTIONING. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ACOUSTIC PANELS OR IDENTIFYING. LET'S HAVE THE NEIGHBORS WORK IT OUT. WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON A CONDITION THE NEIGHBORS ONES ONLINE TWO WERE HERE. ONE'S STILL HERE. WHAT IS THE. SO LET'S SAY THEY CAN'T [01:15:01] WORK SOMETHING OUT. WHO DO THEY GO TO? WHAT'S WHAT IS THE OUTCOME? WHAT HAPPENS BEYOND THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE NEIGHBOR SHOULD TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT? THAT THAT THAT EXTRA CONDITION THAT, THAT BE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT IF ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS COME BACK TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, THIS ISN'T WORKING OUT, THEN THE APPROVAL GETS REVOKED. NOW BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE UNDER LAW, YOU CAN ONLY IMPOSE CONDITIONS THAT MITIGATE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE DELEGATING YOUR AUTHORITY TO PEOPLE THAT. SO I WOULD NOT DO THAT KIND OF CONDITION. THEY CAN ALWAYS COMPLAIN THROUGH THE THE NORMAL PROCESS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THAT THAT THIS IS OCCURRING. BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT MAKE A CONDITION LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M STRUGGLING. SO IF WE WENT THROUGH, WE MADE LET'S SAY WE JUST THREW OUT AND WE SAID ALL KENNEL AREAS WILL REQUIRE SOME FORM OF AN ACOUSTIC BARRIER UP TO THE MIDPOINT OF THE WALL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. THAT'S GREAT. IF THERE'S STILL A PROBLEM, PEOPLE CAN COMPLAIN THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS, BUT THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO RIGHT BACK TO THESE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND SAY THEY'RE MET. TOUGH LUCK. YEAH. AND ANOTHER THING TO REMEMBER OF THE UNDER THE LAW IS THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT. THE ONLY MITIGATE IT. RIGHT. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF YOU CANNOT MITIGATE IT, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO THE ISSUE. YEAH. SO THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH IS THE SOUND DETRIMENTAL EFFECT AND CAN IT BE MITIGATED? I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT ONE. I GOT TWO DOGS. I'M A HUGE DOG LOVER, BUT MY DOGS CAN BE VERY LOUD AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ACOUSTIC. HANDLING OR WHATEVER. OKAY, SO AS FAR AS THE MITIGATION, MY OPINION IS, IS THAT WE PUT IT THROUGH TO THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO DO FLOOR TO CEILING, SOME PANEL WALL, WHATEVER IT IS, IF THEY MEET THAT CONDITION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THAT COMPLETELY ELIMINATES IT, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE MITIGATING THE MAJORITY OF THE ISSUE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR THE CEILING. WE'RE DONE. I WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THAT. AND REMEMBER, THE OTHER OCCUPANT OCCUPANTS ARE ALSO GIVING SOUND, SO IT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP WITH SOME OF THE WOODWORKING SOUNDS COMING INTO THERE. AND THE WHITE PIPE CUANDO GOING AND DISTURBING THE ANIMALS TOO. SO YEAH, I IT COULD BE A TWO WAY THING. SO IF I WERE TO SUMMARIZE, I'M LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL UP HERE. THREE DOZEN CHANGE BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION. FIVE I THINK WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THE PROPER SCREENING. I'M OKAY WITH THE CHAIN LINK, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE PRIVACY SLATS IN THERE SO THE DOGS CAN'T SEE OUT OR THE PEOPLE CAN'T SEE IN. GRANTED, IT'S BEHIND THE BUILDING. THERE'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A SEVEN FOR CEILING, THE FLOOR SO THAT THE WASTE AND AND CLEANUP DOESN'T HAPPEN TO GET INTO EITHER SIDE. AND THEN AN EIGHT TO DO A ACOUSTIC PANELING FLOOR TO CEILING IN THE KENNEL AREAS. AND JUST IN THE KENNEL AREAS, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE SUFFICE ON THREE, THOUGH, WE WANT TO MAKE IT SO NO MORE THAN 12 HOURS, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE 12 HOURS OF UNATTENDED 12.5 ALREADY FROM 6 TO 630. OH THAT'S TRUE, I WAS THINKING. AND THE WEEKENDS ARE SHORTER HOURS, THAT THEY'RE STAFFED. AND SO IT ENDS UP BEING EVEN MORE THAN THAT. OKAY. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO. I'M JUST THINKING I THINK WE MIGHT ALSO NEED TO AMEND NUMBER FIVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A PROVISION FOR CLOSING IT IF IT'S NOISY. CHANGE THE WORD SHALL TO MAY. NOT LEAVE IT AS SHALL SHALL MEANS WILL DO IT MAY RIGHT. BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT IT HAS TO BE OPEN WHETHER IT'S NOISY OR NOT. AND I THINK ALSO HAVING THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ABILITY OR THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE RESPONSIVE IF SOMEONE COMPLAINS, YOU KNOW, IF THE, IF THE PRESCHOOL COMPLAINS THAT THEIR THAT THEIR HEARING IT COME THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DOOR HAVING NOT JUST THE ABILITY BUT MAYBE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CLOSE THE DOOR BASED ON RESPONSIVENESS TO NEIGHBORS. CAN I ASK STAFF A [01:20:08] QUESTION AT THAT POINT? MEGAN. SORRY, ARE THERE WINDOWS ON THIS BUILDING? OPEN WINDOWS THAT CAN BE OPENED? I DIDN'T SEE ANY WHEN I DROVE BY. THINK SO. IF THERE IS, IT'S ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN. I DON'T KNOW, 100% SURE THAT THEY CAN BE OPEN. PERFECT. JUST THINKING OF THE IF ANY OF THE OTHER OUTFITS HAD THEIR WINDOWS OPEN. AND THIS WAS I CAN SEE THAT APART FROM BEING ISSUED OUT. BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S TWO CONDITIONS. AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. DO YOU HAVE MOTION UP ON THE NEXT PAGE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GIVE THIS A TRY. SO BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PET BOARDING LOCATED AT 8014 SOUTH WILBUR PARK DRIVE. NUMBER 202. WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND CONDITION SEVEN AND EIGHT AS DISCUSSED IN THIS MEETING, AS WELL AS THE MODIFICATION TO EXCEPTION FIVE, INDICATING THAT THE BARRIER NEEDS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A OPAQUE PRIVACY CAN'T BE SEE THROUGH, SO THE CONDITIONS WERE THAT THERE WOULD BE A CEILING BETWEEN UNITS, SO FLUID CAN'T FLOW. CORRECT. SO SEVEN WOULD BE CEILING, THE FLOOR WITH SOME SORT OF A RUBBER MATTING OR SOME WAY TO MAKE IT SO THAT MATERIAL DOESN'T FLOW OUTWARD. CONDITION EIGHT IS TO PUT AN ACOUSTIC PANELING FLOOR TO CEILING CEILING ANYWHERE THERE IS A KENNEL. AND THEN NINE. DO YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NUMBER FIVE ON NUMBER FIVE, WHEN IT SAYS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SCREENING, THAT THE SCREENING HAS TO BE OPEN? OKAY. SO IT'D BE A CHAIN LINK WITH PRIVACY SLATS OR SOLID OKAY. ALSO GETTING RID OF THE WORD SALAD NUMBER FIVE. AND PUT ME. AND SO I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL BEFORE YOU GET A SECOND. CHAIR, I WOULD BRING THE APPLICANT UP AND ASK THEM IF THEY CAN COMPLY WITH THESE CONDITIONS. GOOD IDEA. ONE MORE TIME. WHAT DID YOU ASK? ARE YOU OKAY WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AS FAR AS THE MITIGATIONS? YES. OKAY. THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE. AND IF YOU'RE OKAY, WE'RE OKAY. I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE ON WITH THE MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. AND A SECOND WITH THE MODIFICATIONS DONE TO THE MOTION. SO ALL IN FAVOR I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED. OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. NEXT IS COPPER MEADOWS [4. Copper Meadows Phase 1 and 2; 7275 West 8200 South; Preliminary Subdivision Plat (59 lots on 14.7 acres); P-C Zone; Peterson Development/Barrett Peterson (applicant) [Tayler Jensen/Todd Johnson #34702; parcel 20-33-401-002]] PHASE ONE AND TWO 7275 WEST 8200 SOUTH. PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT 59 LOTS ON 14.7 ACRES AND A P DASH C ZONE WITH PETERSON DEVELOPMENT AND BARRETT. COME JOIN US. OH, I GUESS WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE. YES, I'M CAITLIN NICHOLS. I'M REPRESENTING PETERSON DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T LOOK LIKE BARRETT. I DON'T LOOK LIKE BARRETT. HE'S GOOD LOOKING, BUT I'M NOT BARRETT. SO I AM REPRESENTING. YOU CAN TELL HIM THAT HE KNOWS I'M REPRESENTING PETERSON DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR COPPER MEADOWS. JEFF'S LAUGHING BACK THERE. COPPER MEADOWS, PHASES ONE AND TWO. COPPER MEADOWS IS WEST OF HYDE POINT AND SOUTH OF THE SYCAMORE. SO FAR, FAR WEST JORDAN. THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WERE APPROVED NOVEMBER 20TH OF 24. SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASES ONE AND TWO OF THE SUBDIVISION. ALL OF OUR LOTS ARE SINGLE FAMILY. WE'RE LOOKING AT 58 LOTS AND EVERYTHING IS FOLLOWING THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR SORRY FOR THE APPLICANT. SO YOU NOW YOU'VE GOT ME ALL CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT BARRETT. OKAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. THANK YOU. THANKS, TAYLOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. I'LL ALSO TRY TO KEEP IT PRETTY SHORT, BUT JUST AS CAITLIN SAID, THEY ARE FOLLOWING THEIR APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT [01:25:04] PLAN. ALL THOSE LOTS ARE IN THE SAME LOCATION. THEY'RE THE SAME SIZES AS WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE DO HAVE A PHASING PLAN, SO THEY START AT THE NORTH AND MOVE SOUTH. ANALYSIS FROM STAFF AS THIS DOES COMPLY WITH THE MDA, MDP, WHICH IS APPROVED IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. THE CURRENT ZONING IS PC AND PROJECT OVERVIEW. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PHASES ONE AND TWO. I KIND OF 59. DID YOU SAY IT WAS 58? WE GOT RID OF IT. THEY GOT RID OF THEM. ALL RIGHT. CURRENT ZONING IS PC. NEXT STEPS. AFTER TONIGHT WE DO FINAL PLAT APPROVAL, WHICH IS A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. AND THEN BUILDING PERMITS FOR THOSE LOCATIONS WAS ALSO A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THIS TIME. BY THE WAY, I LIKE THE NEXT STEP PART OF THAT THAT'S REALLY INFORMATIVE. OKAY. WE I'M SORRY. WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. SO THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME. AND IF YOU'RE ONLINE PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE. MY NAME IS KATHY STONE. I LIVE IN THE OAKS. COULD YOU JUST PUT UP THAT OTHER SLIDE? AND IT WAS REALLY FAST. SO ADD THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. WHAT IS THAT GREEN AREA JUST NORTH I GUESS OF WHAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M ASSUMING THAT IS THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING. JUST NORTH OF THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THOSE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE? NO. THERE WAS A HAND THAT WENT DOWN. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENTS. AND TAYLOR, YOU HAVE A QUESTION. I WAS JUST GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT THE ANSWER THAT THEN JUST GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO ONCE UPON A TIME WE WERE ANTICIPATING 8200 SOUTH GOING THROUGH WHEN THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. THAT WAS SOME DEDICATED LAND THAT'S LEFT THERE. IT'S PART OF THE OPEN SPACE TRAIL NETWORK. SO IT'LL JUST BE KIND OF NATIVE OPEN SPACE, AND THERE'LL BE A TRAIL GOING THROUGH THERE. IS THAT LITTLE SQUARE JUST ON TOP OF THE FAR LEFT LOT THAT HAS THE RED DASHED LINE AROUND IT. SO IT'S JUST OPEN SPACE WITH THE TRAIL GOING THROUGH IT. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN CIRCLE IT OR HIGHLIGHT IT. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE ELSE DOES TOO. PERFECT. WOW. I'M SURPRISED I REMEMBERED HOW TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THE. OH, THANK YOU. WHOEVER DID THAT. OH, COMMISSIONER. WE'RE SORRY I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A PRELIMINARY MAJOR SUBDIVISION FOR COPPER METALS. PHASES ONE AND TWO, LOCATED AT 7275 WEST 8200 SOUTH, WITH THE CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER HATCH. I'LL SECOND THAT. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED I OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING [5. Dry Creek Highlands Sub-Area 2; 9000 South 6400 West; Preliminary Development Plan; P-C Zone; Ivory Development/Ross Dinsdale (applicant) [Mark Forsythe/Todd Johnson/Dave Murphy/Paul Brockbank; #34201; parcel 26-03-200-011, 010, 26-03-100-008]] WITH PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. AND THIS IS NUMBER FIVE THE DRY CREEK HIGHLAND SUB AREA TWO 9000 SOUTH 6400 WEST. THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THE PC ZONE IVORY DEVELOPMENT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE ROSS DINSDALE IS THE APPLICANT. IF ROSS IS HERE OR WHOEVER IS REPRESENTING ROSS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR [01:30:09] HAVING ME. OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SCHOOL DOG DEBATE. MY NEIGHBOR'S DOG IS SUPER NICE. NEVER DUG A HOLE IN MY YARD, BUT MY NEIGHBOR'S KIDS HAVE DUG A HOLE IN MY YARD, SO MAYBE THE DOGS NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM THE KIDS. CAN I BRING MY DOGS OVER SO THAT THEY CAN BE TRAINED NOT TO DIG HOLES? YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, I'M ROSS DINSDALE. WITH IVORY DEVELOPMENT. YOU'RE AWARE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AWARE. WE'VE DEVELOPED THE EASTERNMOST PORTION OF OUR DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS PROJECT AROUND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND WE'RE SUBMITTING THE OUR SECOND SUBAREA PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY NORTH OF BARNEY'S CREEK. LET'S SEE. YEAH. SO WHAT WE'VE DEVELOPED SO FAR IS VILLAGE ONE, A PORTION OF VILLAGE FOUR. AND THEN SUBAREA TWO ENCOMPASSES VILLAGE TWO AND A PORTION OF VILLAGE THREE. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 63 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IF YOU GO IN THE ENTRANCE, THAT'S OUT THERE, CURRENTLY OFF OF 6400 WEST, THE HOMES THAT WE'VE BUILT RIGHT IN THERE WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO TO WHAT WILL BE HERE. IF YOU'RE CURIOUS WHAT WHAT TYPE OF HOMES WILL BE THERE. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE 60 OR SO HOMES ARE PROPOSING. MARK MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE THE CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS OF BARNEY'S CREEK FROM 6400 WEST TO U111 HIGHWAY, AND IT'LL MOSTLY BE NATIVE OPEN SPACE, BUT TWO OF OUR AMENITIES THAT WILL BE BUILDING WITH THIS WILL HAVE A PAVED TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THEN A NATURAL SURFACE, SINGLE TRACK LIKE BIKE OR HIKING TYPE TRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE. ONE NICE FEATURE IS THAT WITH THE SCHOOL ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROJECT, THIS TRAIL WILL PROVIDE A GOOD SAFE ROUTE FOR KIDS GOING EAST WEST. WE WILL HAVE AN UNDERCROSSING UNDER THE OUR MAIN ROAD IN THE MIDDLE, JUST TO HELP SEPARATE THE PEDESTRIANS FROM TRAFFIC. AND SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT ABOUT HAVING THAT AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN YEAH, THE OPEN SPACE ALONG BARNEY'S CREEK WILL HAVE FOUR RAIL WOODEN FENCE SEPARATING IT FROM THE HOMES, WHICH IS OUT THERE ON OUR HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK. I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY NICE AND THAT'S REALLY IT. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. WE'LL CALL YOU UP IF WE HAVE ANY. THANK YOU. MARK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I'LL JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER SOME OF THE CONTEXT OF HOW THIS KIND OF AFFECTS THE BROADER MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY. BUT SO IN THIS PARTICULAR SUB AREA THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. THERE'S NO MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES OR APARTMENTS. AND A LOT OF THE SIZE OR THE LOT SIZES ARE CARRIED OVER FROM THE STANDARDS THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. SO YOU'VE GOT LOTS THAT ARE 90FT WIDE AND 70FT WIDE WITH THE SETBACKS THERE. SO ALL OF THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND THEN LOOKING AT PERCENTAGES ON THE OPEN SPACE. SO A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT BARNEY'S CREEK WASH THAT'S GOING THROUGH THERE. SO IF WE'RE COMBINING THIS OPEN SPACE WITH THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR SUBAREA ONE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 14% OF THE TOTAL PASSIVE OPEN SPACE, 28% FOR JUST KIND OF THE INTERIOR OPEN SPACES THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGES. AND THEN IF WE'RE TAKING TOTAL OPEN SPACE OVERALL, INCLUDING ALL CATEGORIES THAT WERE AT 27% OF ALL OF JONES RANCH FOR OPEN SPACE. SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHUNK. AND IT'S IT'S MOVING ALONG. THEN JUST LOOKING AT THE AMENITIES. THERE'S A TOTAL OF TEN ADDITIONAL AMENITIES THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED IN ADDITION TO THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE. SO SO PHASE TWO WILL INCLUDE FIVE OF THOSE. TWO HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AS PART OF SUBAREA ONE. THOSE INCLUDE THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE SWIMMING POOL. BUT IN SUBAREA TWO, WE'VE NOW GOT TWO TRAIL [01:35:03] CROSSINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THESE PEDESTRIAN TUNNELS THAT WILL GO UNDERNEATH THE ROAD, RUNNING UNDERNEATH JONES RANCH DRIVE, WHICH IS A CENTRAL COLLECTOR. AND THEN A WESTERN CROSSING WILL ALSO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL AS WELL. AND THEN THE CROSSING ON THE EAST, THAT'LL BE MORE OF AN AT GRADE CROSSING. SO NO TUNNEL THERE. BUT THE OTHER AMENITIES INCLUDE THE TWO FOOT WIDE SINGLE TRACK TRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WASH, IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIRED MULTI USE TRAIL, AND AND FINALLY THEY'LL HAVE THE TWO TRAILHEADS THAT'LL INCLUDE EITHER BENCHES OR SHADE STRUCTURES OR WAYFINDING SIGNS, SOME SORT OF AMENITIES TO TO REALLY MAKE THOSE TRAILS STAND OUT. SO NEXT STEPS ON THIS THIS WILL IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HERE BUT FOR THE SUB AREA THIS WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT FOR FOR PUBLIC HEARING. AND IF ADOPTED IT WILL GO TO THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION REVIEWS. NOT SURE IF THIS WILL INCLUDE MULTIPLE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISIONS OR JUST ONE BASED ON THE SIZE, BUT THAT'LL GO THROUGH CITY STAFF AND THEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PHASES WILL BE APPROVED BY STAFF. SO THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. PLEASE JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND OR ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. MY NAME IS RUDY STONE. I LIVE ON THAT VERY SOUTH END OF POISON OAK DRIVE OUT THERE. SO THAT EXTENSION OF 8600 GOING FROM 6400 WEST OVER TO BAUCUS IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MY BACK FENCE. THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS ABOUT. IS THE ROAD ITSELF, NOT THE DEVELOPMENT. SO IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION TO GET AN ANSWER TO HERE, OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT FORUM? I SHOULD ASK THAT WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, BUT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING OKAY. HI, MY NAME IS KEN AND I LIVE ALSO JUST ON MY WITH MY BACKYARD UP AGAINST 8600 SOUTH THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND ADDRESS A COUPLE CONCERNS. FIRST, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LIKE THE LENGTHS THAT YOU GUYS GO TO TO LIKE INCLUDE US AND LET US VOICE OUR OPINIONS ABOUT THESE MATTERS AND THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE EFFORT THERE. AS FAR AS THE CONCERNS, JUST TWOFOLD. ONE, THANKS, MARK AND TAYLOR FOR TAKING SOME TIME TODAY ON THE PHONE AND THROUGH EMAIL TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE AND AND AND OPEN THAT UP THE ROAD SPECIFICALLY SAME SAME KIND OF CONCERN THERE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY ALL THE WAY THROUGH 8600. SO THE WIDTH, THE GREEN SPACE, THE SIDEWALK SPACE, THE SHOULDERS AND THE TURN LANES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT ARE PRESERVED ALL THE WAY THROUGH 8600 SOUTH. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WOULD BE ELEVATION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN OUT THERE LATELY, BUT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF WE'VE NICKNAMED THEM THE DRY CREEK HIMALAYAS AT THIS POINT. SO MANY CUBIC, THOUSANDS OF CUBIC METERS OF DIRT THAT HAVE BEEN HAULED INTO THAT SITE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEVATION DOESN'T CHANGE, THAT EVERYTHING'S THE SAME CONTINUITY ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE OAKS INTO DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS. AND YEAH, ALSO, ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOME SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE WIDENING OF THE ROAD IMMEDIATELY TO, TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT HAVING TRUCKS AT ALL TIMES OF THE HOURS KIND OF GOING UP AND DOWN RIGHT UP TO OUR FENCES AND, AND PUTTING ALL THAT DIRT AND DUST ONTO OUR PROPERTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO JUST A FEW CONCERNS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD, THAT THAT WE'RE ALSO THOUGHT OF BEING NEIGHBORS. SO YEAH, THANKS FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY ONLINE? [01:40:11] NO HANDS RAISED OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENTS AND OR MOTIONS. AND MARK, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK. YEAH. SO SO I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL WITH SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE DIRT AND SOME OF THE DIRT PILES OUT THERE THAT YES, ARE ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGE, BUT I'VE, I'VE GONE AHEAD AND ACTUALLY NOTIFIED OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO TO, TO KEEP THAT DUST DOWN. SO 8600 SOUTH HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY PLANS, I BELIEVE IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO, MARCH, MARCH OF THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S GONE THROUGH. IT'S GOTTEN FINAL APPROVALS AND THEY THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE IS ACTUALLY FOR THAT 86 ROAD, JUST THE ROAD ITSELF. SO THAT'LL CONTINUE FROM 6400 WEST ALL THE WAY OUT TO U-111. BUT YEAH IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE CITY FOR TO MAKE SURE IT MET ALL THE CITY STANDARDS FOR RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS, SIDEWALK WIDTH, PARK STRIP BIKE LANES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT MET ALL THE STANDARDS AT THE TIME. AND SO IT'S BEEN APPROVED. SO THAT DOES HAVE A BIKE LANE THEN I BELIEVE SO YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAD THE QUESTION ON 8600 SOUTH. IF AFTER THE MEETING YOU'RE WELCOME TO TALK TO MARK AND NESTERS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ON 8600 SOUTH THAT WE DID NOT ADDRESS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION OR. COMMISSIONER HATCH? JIMMY. SORRY, CHRISTIAN ANDERSON, I DIDN'T MEAN TO. OKAY. BASED ON THE INFORMATION ANALYZED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING THE DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS SUBAREA TWO DEVELOPMENT PLAN. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR I. I WAS WAITING FOR THE I SORRY FOR SO I WAS WAITING FOR THAT VOICE FROM ABOVE. OKAY. COULDN'T FIND THE MUTE BUTTON. ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS. WE HAVE SIX IN FAVOR OF. SO AGAIN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD AND TALK TO OUR STAFF AND I'M SURE THEY CAN HELP YOU OUT. SO OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS [6. Corridor - General Plan Text Amendment and Future Land Use Map Amendment; Recommendation to the City Council to Amend the General Plan creating a "Corridor" Land Use Designation and amending the Future Land Use Map on approximately 56 acres of property located along Redwood Road from Professional Office, High-Density Residential, Community Commercial, Low-Density Residential, Medium-Density Residential, and Neighborhood Commercial designations to Corridor designation; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Tayler Jensen #34797]  ] THE CORRIDOR GENERAL PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN, CREATING A CORRIDOR LAND USE DESIGNATION AND AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ON APPROXIMATELY 56 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG REDWOOD ROAD FROM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATIONS TO CORRIDOR DESIGNATIONS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE TAYLOR OR. YEAH, I GUESS TAYLOR. NEVER MIND. YOU'RE IT. YEP. THIS IS ME. THIS IS A CITY PROPOSED APPLICATION. SO WE ARE THE APPLICANT ON THIS. WE HAVE TWO PROPOSALS. THEY GO KIND OF HAND IN HAND, SO WE'LL GO OVER THEM BOTH. THE FIRST IS IN OUR GENERAL PLAN WE HAVE ALL OUR LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE FOR CORRIDORS SO WE WILL. THAT'S THE FIRST PROPOSAL IS TO CREATE A CORRIDOR CATEGORY. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THOSE TWO PARAGRAPHS WOULD BE WITH THAT CORRIDOR CATEGORY WOULD BE. AND THE SECOND WOULD BE TO APPLY THAT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO APPROXIMATELY 56 ACRES OF PROPERTY. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION. WE SENT OUT A MAP AND IT WAS A REALLY BIG NOTICING, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT THAT, AND THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT SCARED THAT SOMETHING HAPPENING TO THEIR PROPERTY. AND SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, A FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS THE ANTICIPATED FUTURE LAND USE OF THE CITY, AND IT'S A GUIDE TO FUTURE LAND [01:45:03] USE DECISIONS, NOT CURRENT ONES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT TYPICALLY A FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY SUPPORTS SUPPORTS MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS. SO AS WE CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS FROM OUR GENERAL PLAN. AND MOST OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT ZONES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE WITHIN THEM. THIS IS WHAT TONIGHT'S PROPOSALS AIMED AT CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. COMPARE THIS TO ZONING MAP, WHICH IS THE MAP OF CITY ZONES, WHICH ARE DESIGNATIONS THAT PROVIDE FOR THE REGULATION OR RESTRICTION OF THE ERECTION, CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, REPAIR OR USE OF BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE AN R1 ZONE, THAT IS, A ZONE THAT ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. TONIGHT'S CHANGE DOES NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE ZONING MAP, SO THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES TO WHAT THAT MAP SAYS. ALLOWED USES. THERE'S NO TAX CHANGES. THE DESIGNATION DOESN'T CHANGE. THE CITY IS NOT PROPOSING TO ACQUIRE ANY PROPERTIES. THE CITY IS NOT PROPOSING TO USE A DOMAIN. THE CITY IS NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE ANYONE'S ZONING DESIGNATION. WE ARE CHANGING THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. AND THEN IF SOMEBODY ON ONE OF THOSE 56 ACRES CHOOSES TO COME BY SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND APPLY FOR A REZONE, WE WOULD THEN CONSIDER THAT REZONE ACCORDING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT KIND OF HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS. THE THE GENERAL PLAN OR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PYRAMID. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE. ON TOP OF THAT, AS YOUR ZONING MAP, ONCE THE ZONING IS APPROVED, THAT'S THE LAST LEGISLATIVE DECISION. ABOVE THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS. SO SUBDIVISION PLATS, IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE APPROVED. THEN YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT GOES ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL LOTS. AND THEN FINALLY IT WOULD BE BUILDING PERMITS. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS REALLY JUST THAT BASE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE. HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE. I CAN GO INTO EACH OF THE SITES IN DETAIL. OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN I CAN PULL THEM UP, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT DOES KIND OF SPAN THE CORRIDOR. ONE NOTABLE EXCEPTION IS YOU'LL SEE NOTHING RIGHT HERE IN CITY CENTER. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STATIONARY PLAN HERE AND THE CORRIDOR ZONE, WHICH THE CORRIDOR FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY, IS PROHIBITED FROM BEING PUT ON TOP OF THAT STATIONARY PLAN AREA. SO AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. THIS WOULD CREATE A CORRIDOR. FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WOULD THEN APPLY THAT DESIGNATION TO 56 ACRES ALONG REDWOOD ROAD. NEXT STEPS. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT WOULD GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT IS LAST OF WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED. NOW, IF AN APPLICANT CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD, THEY COULD DO A REZONE WHICH WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS BODY AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL, AND IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PLAN. BOTH OF THOSE WOULD HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH THE FINAL ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL. SO HOPEFULLY THAT PUTS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ZONING MAP AND A FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO BED, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU OR THE PUBLIC HAS. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. SO CURRENTLY THERE IS NO PLANS OR IN FRONT OF YOU, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST FOR IN THE FUTURE. IF SOMEBODY CHOOSES TO DO THAT. YES. WELL, AND JUST SO WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS THE COMMISSION IS AWARE THERE'S NO ENTITLEMENT WITH THAT FOR ANYONE. IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTY BUT WHAT IT DOES. AND I THOUGHT TAYLOR GAVE A REALLY GOOD EXPLANATION. BUT ALSO WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS FOR THE CITY TO PLAN FOR UTILITIES, WATER ALLOCATION, SEWER ALLOCATION, THAT TYPE OF THING. YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN FOR 30 YEARS. IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN IF THOSE PEOPLE NEVER CHOOSE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IT AT LEAST ALLOWS US TO PLAN FOR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. BUT IT WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTY AT THIS POINT. SO I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS CURRENTLY. SO AND THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. SO OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MR. ANDERSON? YES. ON THE THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE RED SQUARES OF THE PROPERTIES TO BE AFFECTED, YOU HAVE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. THERE ARE LOOKS LIKE 3 OR 4 PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE ON REDWOOD AND 70TH BY THE SMITHS. YES, SIR. THAT IS I CAN'T I [01:50:09] COULDN'T QUITE ZOOM IN QUITE FAR ENOUGH TO SEE WHICH ONES THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. THOSE ONES. NO MORE NORTH. I THINK THAT'S NEAR GARDNER. OKAY. YEAH. SO. DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE? THAT 212720117 8000 OR 80,000. YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE AND THE EXTRA SPACE STORAGE OKAY. THAT'S AS FAR AS IT GOES IS THE EXTRA SPACE STORAGE OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. SO IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT MOST OF THESE LOTS THAT THESE ARE TARGETED AT ARE PARCELS THAT THESE ARE TARGETED AT ARE CURRENTLY USED AS RESIDENTIAL AND PROBABLY NOT FITTING? THE LONG TERM VISION. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE COVERING HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MAJORITY OF THEM. I KNOW A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG REDWOOD ROAD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS THOUGH, BUT I'D SAY THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THE PROPERTIES WHICH ARE UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL OR. PROFESSIONAL OFFICE PROPERTIES AS WELL. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD ANOTHER ONE. OKAY. GOT TO GO BACK TO THE MAP. THAT SAME AREA. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. SO THE EXTRA SPACE STORAGE IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF REDWOOD. WHAT'S THE WHAT ARE THE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE. YEAH YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE OF THOSE IS VACANT. THERE'S ALSO, I BELIEVE A CAR WASH AND MAYBE LIKE A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, IT'S A COFFEE SHOP. OKAY. SO AGAIN AS LARRY MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, 30 PLUS YEARS INTO THE FUTURE AND WILL THOSE USES, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE VERY VIABLE THERE FOR A LONG TIME IF REDWOOD ROAD DEVELOPS THE WAY THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT MIGHT AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY ECONOMIC BEST INTEREST TO SELL THOSE AND MAKE A BIG BAG OF MONEY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT DOES NOT GO AS FAR DOWN AS TO THE ABC GREAT BEGINNINGS CHILDCARE CENTER. IS THAT OKAY? THANKS. YOU MISSED YOUR SPOT. YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN REAL ESTATE AGENT. COMMISSIONER ALAN. ALL RIGHT. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THIS, AND I, I LOVE THE APPROACH AND EVERYTHING. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND THAT IS. THE PURPOSE HERE IS WE HAVE A VISION THAT REDWOOD ROAD IS GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, AND IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF HOPEFULLY BUSINESS AND OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY. WHY SELECT PARCELS AND WHY NOT JUST THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS THIS DESIGNATION? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO IT, AND IT WAS REALLY WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE KEY NODES SOMETIMES WE CALL THEM OR THE AREAS THAT WE FEEL WERE THE LEAST UTILIZED THAT HAD THE MOST POTENTIAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT. ANY ONE OF THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES COULD COME APPROACH THE BODY OF THE CITY TO HAVE THEIR FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGED. AND A REZONE. SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PICKING AND CHOOSING LOSERS, BUT WE THESE WERE SITES THAT WE FELT LIKE WERE THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. HI, MY NAME IS CAROL CROCKETT. AND IF YOU COULD PUT THE MAP BACK UP THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, THAT YOU THE ONE THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT, THE ONE WITH THE. THERE WE GO. RIGHT. OOPS. YOU WENT PAST IT RIGHT THERE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT TO CORRIDOR. SO IT'S EASIER TO CHANGE IT TO A BUSINESS EVENTUALLY AND MAKE IT COMMERCIAL. YOUR REDWOOD ROADS GOT A LOT OF IN THE. I LIVE RIGHT THERE AT THE VERY, VERY FIRST HOUSE OFF OF REDWOOD ROAD, [01:55:07] RIGHT BELOW THE SMALLER RED CIRCLE I BOUGHT THERE THREE YEARS AGO. THAT'S A SUBDIVISION. IT'S A SENIOR COMMUNITY. WE WERE HOPING THAT IF THE PEOPLE BEHIND US, WHICH ARE THE THREE BIG PROPERTIES IN THE TWO SMALL PROPERTIES, IF THEY EVER SOLD, THEY WOULD MAKE IT SINGLE FAMILY, HOPEFULLY. SENIOR COMMUNITY ALSO. SO YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST TWO OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THAT AREA WITHIN THE LAST THREE, FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED THERE. AND THEN OURS, WHICH IS THREE YEARS, THREE, FOUR YEARS OLD NOW. SO YOUR, YOUR I'VE GOT TEN FEET BEHIND ME BEFORE THAT FIRST RED SQUARE, TEN FEET IS MY BACKYARD. AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAKING IT EASIER FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL. AND I DON'T AGREE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I BOUGHT THAT HOPING I MEAN, I REALIZED THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE PEOPLE COULD SELL AND IT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S ALL FIVE OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT NOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT JUST OWN PROPERTY BEHIND THEIR HOUSES. AND I'M REQUESTING THAT WE DON'T CHANGE IT TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY. COME ON UP. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. JOSEPH SMITH. I LIVE ON WILSON LANE, WHICH MAKES ME WONDER FROM WHAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR PROPERTIES FACING REDWOOD ROAD. WE FACE WILSON LANE. AND YET WE'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL AND I'M WONDERING WHY. IF WE FACE WILSON. SO WE'RE OFF OF GARDINER LANE. WELL, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, THAT'S NOT THE TIME WE ASKED THIS. YOU CAN ASK IT, BUT WE'LL ANSWER THEM AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO DIGEST THE QUESTION. YEAH, GREAT. I'M WONDERING. ARE THERE OTHER PROPERTIES PREVIOUS TO THIS ACTION THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED CORRIDOR. IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS IS OKAY. DOES THIS GREASE THE SKIDS FOR SOME FURTHER? ZONING CHANGE, AND IF SO, WHY DO WE NEED THIS? WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AFTER OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? MY NAME IS ALSO JOSEPH SMITH. I ALSO LIVE ON CHILSON LANE. DIFFERENT HOUSE. THAT'S MY DAD. SO. MY REAL QUESTION IS I'M STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHAT EXACTLY THE CORRIDOR DESIGNATION IS. I MEAN, WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO USE CORRIDOR LAND FOR? WHAT IS THE THE FUTURE USE WE WE FORESEE, EVEN IF IT IS 30 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT WE WOULD WANT, ESPECIALLY THIS LARGE SECTION HERE ON THE CORNER OF OF REDWOOD AND GARDINER, WHICH IT'S A HUGE CHUNK. A LOT OF HOMES INVOLVED, AND IT IS A LITTLE UNSETTLING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF CHANGES INVOLVING OUR HOUSE. AND I'VE BEEN THERE MY WHOLE LIFE. WE'VE DONE THAT THROUGHOUT MY WHOLE LIFE. SO I GUESS IF WE CAN JUST CLEAR UP WHAT CORRIDOR IS, IT'S A NEW DESIGNATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM THIS MEETING, BUT WHAT IS IT? THAT'D BE GREAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ONLINE? WE HAVE CODY. CODY. YEAH. I WAS LOOKING AT THE SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON WHY THEY SAID THAT IT WAS 300FT OFF THE CORRIDOR, WAS 300FT OFF OF REDWOOD ROAD. SOME OF THESE GO WAY DEEPER THAN 300FT. HOW CAN THEY GO SO FAR OFF OF REDWOOD ROAD AND DON'T. BECAUSE [02:00:05] IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACT. RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES. IF YOU START PUTTING IN THAT MUCH COMMERCIAL AND HAVE EVEN A CORRIDOR TO MAKE IT 300FT WIDE AND TAKE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALL THE WAY DOWN, 300FT IN AND BUY THOSE OUT, OR HAVE IT UP FOR REZONING AT THE POINT WHEN SOMEBODY APPLIES TO DO THAT. BUT THESE PROPERTIES STRETCH WAY PAST THE 300FT. WHY DID THEY GO? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THEY STRETCHING SO FAR OFF OF THE GROUND? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IF WE CAN. AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE'S A JACKIE. JACKIE. ARE YOU THERE? JACKIE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. I'M THE ONE WHO WROTE YOU THE LETTER I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, GENERAL JACK? JACKIE, STATE YOUR FULL NAME. I AM JACKIE SHIMP. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL. WHEN I SPOKE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST JORDAN, HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THIS WAS KIND OF A HIGH DENSITY THAT THEY WANTED ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT MADE IT DIFFERENT. HE SAID. AT LEAST TWO STORIES HIGH. SO MY QUESTION IS, ONE IS THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ON SET ONTO A VERY, VERY BUSY ROAD. AND THEN ALSO, HOW DO WE SEPARATE THIS? YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY DOES BUY OUT THE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, ON EITHER SIDE OF US. HOW DO WE HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, PROTECT OUR PROPERTIES FROM 2 TO 3 STORY BUILDINGS. AGAIN, WE CAN ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. I GUESS, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE THAT THESE BUILDINGS COULD GO UP AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES. IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THERE ARE KIND OF IDENTIFIED HIGH DENSITY. SO I WOULD I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE CORRIDOR ZONING. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE HAVE SOMEONE ON A GOOGLE PIXEL EIGHT, WHOEVER. GOOGLE PIXEL EIGHT. HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? YES, I'M NATALIE MADSEN. I LIVE ON TREE WAY. IT'S IT'S THE HOMES THAT ARE CLOSE TO SEVENTH ON REDWOOD. WE LIVE IN THAT SENIOR COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND I GUESS MY COMMENT IS IF PEOPLE CAN APPLY TO HAVE THEIR HOMES REZONED ANY WAY, WHENEVER THEY WANT TO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A CORRIDOR DESIGNATION, UNLESS IT'S TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR BIGGER CORPORATIONS TO COME IN AND PURCHASE LARGE SWATHS OF LAND AND PUT UP APARTMENTS OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. AND I AGREE THAT THAT'S GOING TO FURTHER CONGEST REDWOOD AND AND LIKE CAROL, WHO GOT UP AND SPOKE, OUR BACKYARD IS VERY SMALL AND I DON'T LOOK FORWARD TO STARING AT THE WALL OF A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING OR HAVING A SMOKE SHOP GOING IN MY BACKYARD. SO I WOULD I DON'T I DON'T SUPPORT THE CORRIDOR DESIGNATION BECOMING A THING A AND B, TAKING ALL OF THESE RESIDENCES AND MAKING IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE A BIG [02:05:04] BAG OF CASH, IF THAT'S WHAT THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER SAID. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THE ONLY HANDS THAT ARE RAISED. WHAT WAS THAT? THERE ARE NO MORE HANDS RAISED. OKAY. IF THERE'S NOBODY ELSE TO SPEAK, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENTS AND OR. MOTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK STATEMENT. THIS CORRIDOR IS BRAND NEW AND BY THE DESIGNATION AND AND TAYLOR CAN DEFINITELY CORRECT ME IF I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN. ALL IT IS, IS A DESIGNATION. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO CHANGE THE ZONING, THEY STILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THE PLANS. AND THEN WE WILL ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS BEFORE THAT THAT CAN OCCUR. ALL THIS IS IS A DESIGNATION. THIS IS NOT A ZONE CHANGE. AND TAYLOR, MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN I CAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THE TWO. YEAH. THE DESIGNATION CHANGE IS LOOKING TO THE FUTURE TO HOW WE ANTICIPATE THE CITY WOULD BUILD OUT. AND SO THIS IS HOW WE EVALUATE NEW DECISIONS. SO WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN TO REZONE WE LOOK AND SEE DOES THIS COMPLY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN? IF IT DOES THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE USE TO SUPPORT A REZONE. IF IT DOESN'T, THAT'S USUALLY A REASON THAT WE WOULD SAY THE GENERAL PLAN NEEDS TO BE AMENDED BEFORE YOU COULD DO THIS REZONE. AS LARRY ALSO TALKED ABOUT, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PURPOSE OF THIS IS, AS WE ANTICIPATE REDWOOD ROAD HAVING DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES IN THE FUTURE, BY IDENTIFYING THESE LOCATIONS, WE'RE ABLE TO PROPERLY PLAN UTILITIES FOR THESE SITES. YOU KNOW, WATER IS ALWAYS CONCERNED, BUT, YOU KNOW, SEWER IS AS WELL. AND SO THE QUICKER AND THE MORE ACCURATELY WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN START PLANNING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES IF WE NEED THAT, BECAUSE LOTS OF TIMES THOSE UPGRADES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. BUT IF YOU PREPLAN, THEN YOU CAN MAKE THE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. AND IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN IF YOU HAVE TO RETROFIT OR REPLACE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. SO I GUESS HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. YEAH. CAN YOU ANSWER THE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY THAT'S OFF OF REDWOOD ROAD? THAT'S. PARDON ME. YEAH. THE MORE THAN THREE. YEAH. SO I CAN GO INTO SOME OF THOSE OTHER QUESTIONS. SO IF WE LOOK AT GARDINER LANE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THOSE PIECES THERE WHICH WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS COULD BE REDEVELOPED. AND THE WAY THE THE QUARTER ZONE IS WRITTEN IS IT NEEDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN 300FT OF REDWOOD ROAD. BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP IF MULTIPLE PIECES ARE ACQUIRED AND KIND OF ASSEMBLED INTO ONE PARCEL OR TO ONE PROJECT, IF THAT PROJECT HAS FRONTAGE ONTO REDWOOD ROAD, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. IT'S ALSO BEEN TALKED ABOUT LIKE I HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEXT TO THIS, AND I'M CONCERNED, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AS WELL. IF THESE DO REDEVELOP, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IMPOSING INTO PEOPLE'S REAR YARDS AND DEGRADING THE QUALITY OF LIFE. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE CORRIDOR ZONE, WHICH ISN'T APPLIED TO ANY PROPERTY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO APPLY IT TO ANY PROPERTY TONIGHT. IT DOES HAVE A BACK SETBACK OF 25FT. BUT THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY IF ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, THE SETBACK HAS TO BE AS TALL AS THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU BUILD A 60 FOOT BUILDING, YOU'D NEED A 60 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE EDGE OF THAT BUILDING TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT IS, THE BIGGER, THE MORE INTENSE IT GETS, THE FARTHER AWAY FROM THOSE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS YOU NEED TO BE. AND PART OF OUR THINKING WITH THE CORRIDOR ZONE WAS WE'RE HAVING DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES ALL ACROSS THE CITY FOR MORE HIGH DENSITY, AND IF WE CAN FOCUS IT ON REDWOOD ROAD RATHER THAN INTO OTHER ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY SINGLE FAMILY, THAT CAN STOP SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE FOR INCREASED DENSITIES FROM GOING INTO THOSE LOWER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH ARE ESTABLISHED, AND FOCUSING IT ON WHERE WE FEEL DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE, WHICH IS REDWOOD ROAD. SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS ARE CORRECT. THE PURPOSE STATEMENT IN THE CORRIDOR ZONE IS TO ALLOW FOR AND PRIORITIZE MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY AND MIXED UNIT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING ENCOURAGED WITH THIS FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE QUESTION OF IF PEOPLE CAN ALREADY DO THIS, WHY DO THIS [02:10:01] NOW? WELL, WE DON'T CURRENTLY ACTUALLY HAVE ANY CORRIDOR PROPERTY IN THE CITY. WE HAVE THE ZONE. SO WE WANT TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE FEEL THE ZONE IS APPROPRIATE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALSO WANT TO MAKE A NOTATION OR A COMMENT THAT THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS BODY. THIS STILL DOES HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL, WHICH THEY WILL HOLD ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. SO THIS IS NOT THE LAST STEP. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ABOUT THAT. ALSO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER HATCH, IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN SO AND I KNOW YOU'VE SAID THIS A FEW TIMES ALREADY THIS EVENING, BUT THOSE HOMES ON SCHULTZ LANE AND ON TREE WAY, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT NAME, TREE WAY. THEIR PROPERTY IS NOT BEING AFFECTED BY THIS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 30 YEARS IN THE FUTURE OR 15 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, BUT IF IF HOMES WERE JUST PURCHASED ON TRAY WAY IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AND THEY PLAN ON LIVING THERE UNTIL THEY'RE CARRIED OUT, THEN I MEAN, THEY COULD LIVE THERE ANOTHER 30 YEARS. SO THIS COULD BE A CONCERN DOWN THE ROAD. BUT AS YOU'VE JUST STATED, IF THEY DO BUILD A MULTI FLOOR, I MEAN A MULTI DEVELOPMENT WITH LOTS OF FLOORS THAT THE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THEIR BACK PROPERTY LINE IS THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IF THEY HAVE A TEN FOOT BACKYARD RIGHT NOW AND SOMEBODY PUTS IN A 40 FOOT BUILDING, THEY WILL HAVE 50FT BETWEEN THEIR HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE BUILDING. YES. OKAY. AND ASSUMING THE BUILDING HAS SOME PROPERTY AROUND IT, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE LOOKING OUT AT A BUILDING, OR A BUILDING WILL STILL BE LOOKING DOWN ON THEM. CORRECT. SO BUT AT THAT POINT THEY CAN COME WHEN THE APPLICATION IS BEFORE CITY, BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, ETC. AND THEY CAN VOICE THEIR CONCERN THEN AND WORK WITH THE THE CITY TO MAKE PROPER ACCOMMODATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND AND ONE THING ABOUT THE CORRIDOR ZONE, IF SOMEBODY EVER APPLIES FOR IT, IT REQUIRES BOTH A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PLAN TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE, BUT ALSO HEIGHT AND DENSITY. THERE'S NOT JUST ANY BLANKET OR BASE WHICH WE HAVE IN MOST OF OUR ZONES. LIKE MOST ZONES, YOU CAN HAVE ANYTHING UP TO 45FT OR 55FT. IT'S JUST BY RIGHT. AND THE CORRIDOR ZONE, IT'S YOU HAVE TO COME IN WITH A WELL-FORMULATED PLAN, AND THAT GETS APPROVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO THERE'S NOT JUST A A BOXY CHECK FOR THE CORRIDOR ZONE ACTUALLY HAS TO BE A WELL THOUGHT OUT PROJECT. I THINK. COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO MUTE YOUR MIC THERE, COMMISSIONER ROBERTS. EITHER THAT SORRY, I ACTUALLY UNMUTED BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A COMMENT OR ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMISSIONER HATCH WAS TAKEN CARE OF FIRST. THANK YOU. WE'RE AWAKE. THANK YOU. TAYLOR, THAT HELPS A LOT. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STEPS INVOLVED BEFORE THIS WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED ON ANY OF THESE OUTLINED AREAS. YES. I DID WANT TO JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING YOU SAID THOUGH. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING 30 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, I HAVE NO INDICATION THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO APPLY, BUT SOMEBODY COULD APPLY WITHIN A YEAR OR A COUPLE MONTHS IF THIS WERE APPROVED, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE 75 YEARS IN THE FUTURE AND NOBODY TAKES ACTION. WE JUST DON'T KNOW. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROBERTS. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS KIND OF JOINTLY A QUESTION AND MAYBE A STATEMENT TO CHECK MY OWN UNDERSTANDING. BUT SO IN THE SUMMARY INCLUDED IN THE PACKET TONIGHT, IT SAYS THAT THE THAT THE CORRIDOR IS A GENERAL PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM AND THEN GIVES A VARIETY. I'M ASSUMING THAT AT PRESENT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS EACH OF THESE FUTURE LAND USES AS ONE OF THE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES THAT ARE THAT ARE LISTED THERE, AND THE CORRIDOR ZONE JUST REMOVES THE STEP OF. SO IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS FUTURE LAND USE PLANNED FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THERE, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE COMMUNITY CORRIDOR ZONE WOULD JUST MAKE IT SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIRST TRY TO AMEND THE THE GENERAL PLAN FOR THAT, AND THEN GO FOR THE REZONE AND THEN GO FOR THE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IT THAT IT KIND OF PUTS A BASKET AROUND ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND YOU'RE NOT HERE. SO YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN. BUT I JUST PULLED UP THE PROPERTY AT THE VERY SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY. WE CAN SEE THE CURRENT FUTURE [02:15:01] LAND USE DESIGNATION OF ALL THOSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF REDWOOD ROAD IS CURRENTLY PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, BUT WITHIN THAT THERE'S THREE R1 TEN ZONED PROPERTIES. SO EVEN THOUGH THOSE THREE PROPERTIES ARE RESIDENTIAL, THEIR FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION CURRENTLY DOES NOT SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL. BUT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE OR DEGRADE THEIR RIGHT TO BE RESIDENTIAL. AND THEY CAN BE THAT FOREVER. AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, IF THOSE WANTED TO REDEVELOP, WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT. ACCORDING TO THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DESIGNATION, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, REZONING IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE LOOKED AT ACCORDING TO THE CORRIDOR DESIGNATION. OKAY, SO JUST SO JUST TO CLARIFY AND RESTATE. SO RIGHT NOW, IF THOSE PROPERTIES WANTED TO REZONE AND LET'S SAY THEY WANTED TO GO TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIRST APPLY FOR A FOR A CHANGE TO THE LAND USE MAP BEFORE APPLYING FOR THE REZONE AND THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY CORRIDOR ZONING WOULD MAKE IT SO THEY COULD GO TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, ETC. WITHOUT FIRST AMENDING THE MAP. SO IT REALLY IS ONLY ELIMINATING THAT ONE STEP. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IT'S ELIMINATING THAT ONE STEP. BUT WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE CORRIDOR ZONE IS NOT A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE. IT IS A FORM BASED MIXED USE ZONE WHICH IS OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL. SO ALL OF THOSE USES WOULD BE ALLOWED, BUT IT IS A MIXED USE FORM BASED ZONE RATHER THAN A STANDARD EUCLIDEAN ZONE. YES. SO THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS JUST THAT. THE ONLY THING THAT'S REMOVING IS THIS STEP OF AMENDING, AMENDING THE GENERAL LAND USE MAP. CORRECT. BEFORE THEY GO ON TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE. SO OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. NO. THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED. YEAH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH TAYLOR AFTERWARDS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE REALLY GREAT. SO. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH, I'M A LITTLE BIT. I NEED SOME HELP UNDERSTANDING THE HODGEPODGE TARGETED WAY THAT WE DID THIS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL, THAT WHOLE AREA DOWN REDWOOD ROAD, WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT ALL THE SAME DESIGNATION? SO START ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. I'M FIRST GOING TO QUOTE THE INCREDIBLES WHEN EVERYBODY'S SPECIAL, NOBODY IS. IF YOU DESIGNATE THE WHOLE CORRIDOR AS CORRIDOR, THEN NOTHING'S TARGETED. SO WE WANTED TO TARGET THE PIECES THAT WE FELT LIKE WERE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR REDEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT ANYONE ON REDWOOD ROAD COULDN'T COME IN AND ASK FOR THIS DESIGNATION TO BE CHANGED, BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE PIECES THAT WE FEEL ARE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR REDEVELOPMENT HAVE THE MOST POTENTIAL. OKAY, I GET THAT. THE WORD CORRIDOR JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT. CORRIDOR IS A CONTIGUOUS AREA, WHEREAS THIS IS MORE HODGEPODGE. YEAH, THE CORRIDOR IS WITHIN 300FT OF REDWOOD ROAD. THAT'S THE CORRIDOR. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, WE HAD ANTICIPATED WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE INCLUDING OTHER RIGHT OF WAYS. WE PULLED BACK AND SAID, LET'S FOCUS ON REDWOOD ROAD FIRST. IT'S SUCCESSFUL THERE. IT MIGHT BE EXPANDED TO ADDITIONAL CORRIDORS SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION. SORRY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO PULL UP THE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT THEIR THE GENERAL GENERAL PLAN FOR THE CITY SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOUR HOME IS AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S WHAT. IT'S WHAT THE AREA AROUND YOU IS ZONED FOR, OR WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ZONED FOR YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE CITY HAS IN MIND GOING FORWARD FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP CLARIFY AS WELL, WHERE YOU'RE LIVING IN RELATIONSHIP TO THESE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS. AM I OKAY IN SAYING THAT LARRY TAYLOR OKAY. MR. ANDERSON. SO TAYLOR DID THE DID THE COUNCIL ASK STAFF TO DO THIS LOW HANGING FRUIT ANALYSIS AND IDENTIFY SOME PLOTS TO TO START A APPLICATION FOR THIS? YES. AND WE'VE HAD THIS AT MULTIPLE WORK SESSIONS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO OUR LAST ONE WAS WHEN WE IDENTIFIED THESE LOCATIONS AND THEY TOLD US TO PROCEED WITH THESE LOCATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. [02:20:06] OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER ALAN. TWO MOTIONS. SO I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT, ADDING THE CORRIDOR LAND USE TO THE GENERAL PLAN. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. SECOND, THAT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I, I ANY OPPOSED OKAY. CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. COMMISSIONER ALLEN I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, ADDING THE CORRIDOR DESIGNATION TO APPROXIMATELY 56 ACRES OF PROPERTY ALONG REDWOOD ROAD. SECOND, CAN YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO THE NEXT [7. Text Amendment - Traffic Calming Manual for New Development - Recommendation to the City Council to Amend the City Code Title 14-5-5 C (2) regarding the requirement of traffic calming devices for new residential development; city-wide applicability; City of West Jordan Engineering Department (applicant) [Nestor Gallo]] ITEM. THE TEXT AMENDMENT TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE CITY CODE TITLE 14 5-5C TO REGARDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CITYWIDE APPLICABILITY. THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN IS THE APPLICANT. MR. CAN YOU SPEAK TO US ON THAT? GOOD EVENING, PLANNING COMMISSION. PLANNING COMMISSION, CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I AM MR. GALLO. I AM THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND I WISH I COULD TAKE CREDIT FOR THE NEXT TWO ITEMS FOR THE HIGH QUALITY AND PROFESSIONAL WORK DONE ON THESE TWO ITEMS. ONE OF MY COWORKERS, WHO I REALLY ADMIRE FOR BEING SO YOUNG AND SO SMART AND TALENTED, KRISTA. SHE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM WASATCH FRONT REGIONAL COUNCIL. SHE PREPARED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE FROM WHICH ONE OF THE TOP CONSULTANTS, AVENUE CONSULTANTS KIRBY SNYDERMAN, REPRESENTING THEM, WAS THE WINNER. AND AFTER A YEAR AND PROBABLY 14 MONTHS OF HARD WORK RESEARCH MEETINGS, THEY PREPARED THE FOLLOWING TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT. AND WITH THAT I'LL LET KRISTA AND KIRBY TAKE OVER WITH YOU WITH THE PRESENTATION. SO WE HAVE CAN YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC? SO. THE STUDY THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. IT WAS OFF. SORRY. AND I'M KRISTA. AS MISTER MENTIONED, WE HAD A VERY STRONG TEAM WITH CONSULTANTS. AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS PRESENTATION QUICKLY. SO WHAT WE HAD AVENUE CONSULTANTS LOOK AT IS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLS THAT COULD BE USED IN A CITY FOR BOTH EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS AND NEW SUBDIVISIONS DUE TO GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE WANTED A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE TRAFFIC CALMING IS SUCH A BIG ISSUE IN OUR CITY, A CITY THAT COMBINES BOTH NEW AND OLD INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUTTING UP TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, IT CAUSES A LOT OF FRICTION. SO WHAT AVENUE DID IS THEY LOOKED INTO ALL THE TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLS AVAILABLE, AND THEN THEY ALSO PUT THOSE TOOLS INTO A CONCISE PLATFORM. WE CALL THAT OUR TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX THAT SUMMARIZES ALL THOSE TOOLS AND THEIR EFFICACY FOR CITY STAFF TO USE. NOW, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT IS WE WANTED TO BREAK IT INTO TWO COMPONENTS. ONE COMPONENT IS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS. WE WANTED TO SET A STANDARD FOR DEVELOPERS TO FOLLOW TO USE THESE TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES UNIFORMLY ACROSS THE BOARD. FOR ALL THESE NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO TAKE THE FINDINGS AND INCORPORATE THEM INTO OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN. SO KIRBY'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT THEY STUDIED AND DISCOVERED DURING THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. KRISTA. KIRBY SNYDERMAN WITH AVENUE CONSULTANTS. I'M AN URBAN AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNER. IF I CAN RESTATE THAT JUST REALLY SIMPLY, YOU ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING STREET TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM. IT'S A VERY GOOD ONE, ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE BEST IN THE STATE. SO YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT PART OF THIS STUDY WAS TO LOOK AT NEW TOOLS FOR THAT EXISTING PROGRAM THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT YOU CAN USE FOR TRAFFIC CALMING FOR THE PROGRAM THAT NESTOR AND THE ENGINEERS MANAGE? THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU'RE BUILDING ON THOSE STREETS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK LATER AND FIX THEM. HOW CAN YOU HELP DEVELOPERS KNOW HOW TO DESIGN [02:25:06] THEIR STREETS IN A WAY THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO FIX IT AFTER IT'S FIXED, ONCE IT'S BUILT? THE NICE THING ABOUT IT IS IF YOU DO IT WHEN IT'S BEING BUILT, IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER. AND A LOT OF WAYS YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO RETROFIT IT. IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MORE EXPENSIVE. DEPENDING ON THE THE TOOL THAT YOU USE FOR NEW DEVELOPERS. SO IT'S A WIN WIN TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TRAFFIC CALMING ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING TO YOU. BECAUSE TO DO THE TO MAKE THE CHANGES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THAT HAS TO COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION, THEN CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE YOUR YOUR ORDINANCE FOR THAT, FOR DEVELOPERS TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS. SO GENERALLY THERE'S THREE STRATEGIES FOR THESE TOOLS, THESE TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLS. ROAD DIETS. YOU MAKE THE ROAD SMALLER, ROADWAY OBSTACLES. YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THE IN THE ROAD LIKE A MEDIAN OR A TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR ROUNDABOUT SO THAT DRIVERS SLOW DOWN THERE. THEY'RE FORCED TO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE ROADWAY. AND THEN TO IMPACT DRIVER BEHAVIOR. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE THE DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGNS THAT THE CITY USES QUITE EFFECTIVELY TO LET DRIVERS KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPEEDING. SO WITH THOSE THREE STRATEGIES, WE WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF TOOLS WITH A LOT OF RESEARCH. AND THIS TEXT IS TOO SMALL FOR ME. I FORGOT MY GLASSES. SO CAN'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO DON'T WORRY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT. HERE'S A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. THIS IS AN INTERESTING GRAPH THAT IS PROBABLY TOO COMPLICATED FOR THE DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL COME BACK TO THIS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT BASICALLY ALL THESE TOOLS, WE TOOK RESEARCH AND LET THE CITY KNOW WHEN YOU USE THESE TOOLS, WHAT'S THEIR IMPACT TO SPEED? WHAT'S THEIR IMPACT TO TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND WHAT'S THEIR COST? BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. AND SO THIS GRAPH TAKES ALL OF THOSE AND GRAPHS IT OUT. SO YOU CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND IT. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, LET'S GET TO THE PART THAT'S VERY PERTINENT TO YOU. AND THAT'S THE TRAFFIC CALMING DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR. SO THE CURRENT THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD, A LOT A LOT OF CITIES IN UTAH DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR TRAFFIC CALMING. YOURS IS JUST ONE LINE AND IT SAYS YOU NEED TO DO IT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT DEVELOPERS WERE COMING TO CITY STAFF AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL DO IT. TELL US HOW. AND THEN STAFF HAS TO SPEND TIME TELLING THE DEVELOPERS HOW TO DO IT. THE BETTER WAY IS TO HAVE THEM HAVE CLEAR ENOUGH GUIDELINES THAT THEY CAN DO IT THEMSELVES. AND THEN STAFF IS JUST IN A POSITION TO REVIEW WHAT THEY'VE DONE. SO THE NEW REQUIREMENT THAT YOU'RE SENDING A RECOMMENDATION FOR IS THE PROPOSED EXISTING SAYS LOCAL STREETS SHALL INCORPORATE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO REDUCE VEHICLE SPEEDS AND PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, THE PROPOSED SAYS. THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN REQUIRES TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES FOR NEW PUBLIC STREETS TO MAINTAIN MEAN VEHICLE OPERATING SPEEDS OF 25 TO 30MPH. THESE ARE FOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS. TO ACHIEVE THIS OBJECTIVE, THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF ROADWAY SECTION BETWEEN SPEED CONTROL POINTS SHALL BE 500FT. FOR A DEFINITION OF SPEED CONTROL POINTS AND DESIGN INSTRUCTIONS, SEE THE WEST TRAFFIC. WEST JORDAN TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL THE TYPE AND NUMBER OF REDUCED REQUIRED SPEED CONTROL POINTS IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER. NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN YOUR CITY ORDINANCE. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS TWO ONE, IT'S A LOT TO GO IN YOUR CITY ORDINANCE. YOU KNOW, SEVERAL PAGES OF OF TEXT, WHICH IS NOT REALLY GOOD OPERATIONALLY. IT JUST MAKES YOUR ORDINANCE LONGER. THE OTHER THING IS, WELL, IF THERE'S A LITTLE BIT THAT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY EVERY TIME TO TO TWEAK ENGINEERING STANDARDS. THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD PRACTICE EITHER. YOUR JOB IS TO REVIEW POLICY, NOT REALLY ENGINEERING STANDARDS. SO WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS IS THAT THIS CREATES A REFERENCE TO AN ENGINEERING MANUAL THAT THE ENGINEERS CAN UPDATE AS NEEDED FOR ENGINEERING STANDARDS. THIS IS A AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL WILL CONTAIN. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW KEY ELEMENTS. I WON'T GET INTO THIS TOO FAR IN DEPTH, BUT WE USE THE TERM SPEED CONTROL POINTS AND NOT TRAFFIC CALMING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS. THERE ARE SOME DESIGN DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE IN FOR STREETS THAT HAVE THE SAME EFFECT AS TRAFFIC CALMING. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU TAKE A STREET AND YOU CURVE IT ENOUGH, PEOPLE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. THEY CAN'T TAKE THAT CURVE VERY FAST. SO IN EFFECT, THAT'S TRAFFIC CALMING, BUT NOT REALLY. A LOT OF TIMES CURVES ARE MADE FOR FOR OTHER REASONS THAN TRYING TO SLOW. THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. AND SO WE USE TRAFFIC CALMING. WE USE CONTROL POINTS AS A WAY [02:30:02] TO SAY HOW MANY OF THOSE DO YOU NEED. MAYBE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SOME. BY JUST THE WAY YOU'RE DESIGNING YOUR SUBDIVISION. SO YOU ONLY NEED A FEW MORE. AND AND THE, THE THE DECISION OF WHERE TO PUT OR HOW MANY SPEED SPEED CONTROL POINTS TO PUT WAS BASED ON DATA. AND WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE LOOKED AT OTHER COMPARABLE CITIES WAS THAT THERE IS A SPACING ALREADY SET, WITH SOME REALLY GOOD DATA ON HOW FAR APART DO YOU NEED TO PUT TRAFFIC CONTROL POINTS OR SPEED CONTROL POINTS, OR TRAFFIC CALMING? HOW FAR APART TO GET THE DESIRED EFFECT? BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT WE WANT TO DESIGN OUR STREETS TO GO BETWEEN 25 AND 30 MILES AN HOUR. AND SO THE BASED ON THE DATA, THAT STANDARD IS 500FT. AND THEN ONE KEY PART OF THIS THAT WILL BE UPDATED FREQUENTLY IS THE CITY NEEDS TO DESIGN IT, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY THEY'VE SELECTED A NUMBER OF TOOLS THEY WANT TO APPLY. AND THEN THEY HAVE STANDARD DRAWINGS THAT THE, THE THE ENGINEERS FROM THE DEVELOPERS CAN FOLLOW. AND THESE ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE MANUAL THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED OR ADOPTED. AND ONE OTHER THING WE DID FOR THE EXISTING TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE EXISTING STREETS, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM IS WE DEVELOPED A DIAGRAM THAT HELPS THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT CITY STAFF GOES THROUGH. AND THIS IS A PROCESS THAT INCLUDES THAT THAT NESTA'S BEEN MANAGING. YOU KNOW, IF RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CONCERN ON THEIR EXISTING STREET, THEY CAN SUBMIT THAT THAT COMPLAINT, THAT CONCERN TO THE CITY. AND THEN THERE'S A PROCESS THAT'S FOLLOWED SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST APPLYING TRAFFIC CALMING WILLY NILLY. WE'RE FOLLOWING A PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED IN ITS FAIR, AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY GETS THE SAME TREATMENT. AND SO WE WE PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR THE CITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC. SO ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU. ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER HATCH I LOVE THIS. THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU FOR CHRISTOPHER SECURING THE GRANT AS WELL. GLAD THAT THAT FUNDING WAS AVAILABLE. AND REALLY NICE WORK. THANK YOU. YEAH, IT'S REALLY NICE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. SO WHEN YOU DID YOUR STUDY, DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT I'M A BICYCLIST. SO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE EFFECTS ON BICYCLES AND CARS AT A CALMING POINT OR A RESTRICTED POINT. YES. AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? CAN YOU BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ON. OKAY. SO LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR DIET WHERE YOU'RE BRINGING THE, THE CURB TO SLOW DOWN THE CARS? I'M RIDING MY BIKE THROUGH ONE OF THOSE DIETS, AND THE CARS COME IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WAY. AND NOW I'M SQUEEZED BECAUSE NOW I GOT THIS CURB COMING AT ME AND A CAR COMING ON THE SIDE. HOW DO WE ANSWER THAT? WELL, THAT'S A PRETTY SPECIFIC DESIGN QUESTION, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE HAD A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH A TRAFFIC CALMING TOOL THAT MAYBE MADE IT A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE FOR YOU, AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY PUT TOGETHER THESE STANDARD DRAWINGS, BECAUSE THERE IS A BEST PRACTICE TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU DO A ROAD DIET FOR MAKING SURE THAT YOU YOU GIVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR CYCLISTS AND FOR PEDESTRIANS AND, AND AN ENGINEER THAT MAYBE IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THESE STANDARDS OR ISN'T A CYCLIST HIMSELF OR HERSELF, MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO APPROPRIATELY DESIGN THAT. THAT'S WHY THIS TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL CONTAINS STANDARD DRAWINGS WHERE THE ENGINEERS HAVE FOLLOWED THE BEST PRACTICES AND PUT THAT INTO THE DRAWING, SO THAT WHEN A DEVELOPER BUILDS THIS, WHEN THEIR ENGINEER DESIGNS THIS, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THEY GIVE THE APPROPRIATE SPACE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS, BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE. THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED. OKAY. THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR MOTIONS. COMMISSIONER ALAN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR DO I JUST MAKE IT UP? I'M GOOD. IT'S RIGHT HERE. OH, THAT WORKS TOO. SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY PRINTED OUT THE PAGE BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION. GO AHEAD. SO IN THE SLIDE, THE TEXT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE PROPOSED CODE. INSTEAD OF 25 TO 30MPH, IT JUST [02:35:05] SAYS 25MPH. IS THAT WHAT'S INTENDED? THE PRESENTATION WE SHARED TONIGHT WAS CARRIED OVER FROM THE ONE THAT WE SHARED AT THE THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE ONE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE, THE RING TO RULE THEM ALL. COMMITTEE. THAT'S THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. THE NAMING OF IT. I LIKE THAT, BUT THERE WERE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON ON SOME EDITS TO THAT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED THAT MEETING, SO THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT INCLUDES THE CHANGE. THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. LET'S NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS BY CALLING THE ONE RING. ARE WE GOOD FOR MOTION? OKAY. BASED ON INFORMATION, I CAN ANSWER A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHY IS 2530 THE STATE? THE SPEED LIMIT IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE IS IS SET BY THE STATE OF UTAH. STATE LAW SAYS EVEN IF THERE IS NO SIGN OR POSTED AS A 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT, THE THE SPEED LIMIT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS 25MPH. THE ONLY THING THAT IS DIFFERENT IS SPEED REDUCED SCHOOL ZONE WHICH CAN DROP TO 20. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS NATIONAL DATA SHOWS IF AN ACCIDENT BETWEEN A VEHICLE AND A PEDESTRIAN TAKES PLACE, VERY LIKELY THE PEDESTRIAN AT 20MPH, THE COLLISION IS THAT COLLISION HAPPENED. THE PEDESTRIAN WILL SURVIVE WITH MINOR OR NO INJURIES. BUT NOW THE SAME ACCIDENT TAKE PLACE ON 32MPH. WE'RE TALKING SEVERE, SEVERE INJURIES, MAYBE FATALITY. SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A THRESHOLD OF 4 OR 5MPH TO ENFORCE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. SO THE SPEED LIMIT IS STILL 25. THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD IS BASED ON 25MPH, BUT WE HAVE THAT RANGE FOR ENFORCEMENT. AND ANYBODY EXCEEDING THAT 30MPH GETS CITED AND GETS STOPPED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YEAH, I PERSONALLY SAW ONE OF OUR FINEST PULL OVER SOMEBODY THAT BLEW THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE THIS MORNING AT 45. IT WAS AWESOME. OKAY. BASED ON THE INFORMATION CRITERIA SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT, UPON THE EVIDENCE EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVE FORWARD. SORRY FORWARD. A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS APPLICATION. A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THE TRAFFIC [8. Traffic Calming Manual for New Developments – Recommendation to the City Council to adopt the Traffic Calming Manual; city-wide applicability; West Jordan Engineering Department (applicant) [Nestor Gallo]] CALMING MANUAL FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT A TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL. CITYWIDE APPLICABILITY. AND NESTOR, YOU'RE UP AGAIN. YES, AGAIN. I WISH I COULD TAKE THE CREDIT. THAT IS KRISTA'S, WHICH, I MEAN, NEVER STOPS IMPRESSING ME HOW WELL SHE WORKS THESE TYPE OF THINGS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE, BUT. BUT TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THESE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, WE ANALYZED THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF VEHICLES USED IN THE ROAD. TYPICALLY, A RESIDENTIAL ROAD IS A LOW VOLUME ROAD. WE'RE TALKING 400 VEHICLES PER DAY, 500 VEHICLES PER DAY. ANYTHING ABOVE 800 IS REACHING A LITTLE BIT OF VOLUME. WE MEASURE WE MODEL THE TUNING ENVELOPE FOR FIRE ENGINES. WE MAKE SURE THAT THE MINIMUM WIDTH IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE. WE MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES WILL NOT IMPACT. SNOWPLOW OPERATIONS. WE MEASURE THAT WHEN WE DO THESE PLAN REVIEWS, WE WILL HAVE A STRATEGY FOR SELECTING THESE TYPE OF TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. THE MAIN IDEA IS TO CONTROL ACCELERATION. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ACCELERATION IS DEFINED. FINAL VELOCITY MEANS INITIAL VELOCITY. SO WHEN THEY START ACCELERATING WE NEED TO FORCE THEM TO SLOW DOWN TO KEEP THEM WITHIN THAT 25 MILE PER HOUR THRESHOLD WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS OR BIKERS. SO ALL OF THAT CAME INTO ACCOUNT, BUT WE ONLY HAVE A VERY LIMITED TIME TO EXPLAIN ALL OF THAT. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF KRISTA OR KIRBY CAN ADD ANYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, THEY DID A MAGNIFICENT JOB ON THE ENTIRE YEAR. AND. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THIS MANUAL WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE. OF THE WHOLE, THEY ONLY HAD ONE COMMENT TO AMEND ONE WORD, AND I SPOKE WITH ALAN, AND I THINK WE'RE SENDING THE REVISED VERSION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDES TO APPROVE THIS MANUAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR. OKAY, THIS HAS [02:40:04] BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT AGAIN IN THREE MINUTES. ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR MOTION. COMMISSIONER. ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS? THAT'S I'M JUST GOING TO WING IT. I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL. OKAY. I'LL SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. HI, I ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. OKAY. [9. Text Amendment – Motor Vehicle Sales in the C-M Zone; Recommendation to the City Council to Amend the West Jordan City Code Section 13-5E-3 Allowing Motor Vehicle Sales as a Conditional Use in the C-M (Heavy Commercial) Zone; city-wide applicability; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Larry Gardner #34800]] NEXT TEXT AMENDMENT MOTOR VEHICLE SALES IN A CCM ZONE. RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE WEST JORDAN CITY CODE, SECTION 13 5-3, ALLOWING MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE CCM HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONE CITYWIDE APPLICABILITY. AND LARRY, YOU ARE UP. SO AT PRESENT, AS YOU CAN SEE, MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE ARE ALLOWED IN KG, SC TWO, SC THREE. IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED BOTH NEW AND USED VEHICLES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING ZONE. THIS IS A OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING ZONE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY. IT'S VERY LIMITED. THERE'S RIGHT OFF OF 78 AND 1300 WEST. THAT AREA IS BEEN THERE FOR 50 PLUS YEARS. IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, SPRINKLER SUPPLY. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE LATEST NAME OF THE LUMBERYARD IS. THEY SEEM TO CHANGE HANDS EVERY 2 OR 3 YEARS. BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER VARIOUS CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, CABINET SHOPS IN THERE, AND THEN THE CCM ZONE IS ALSO ON THE CORNER OF 7800 SOUTH AND AIRPORT ROAD. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST LIKELY LOCATION THOSE PARCELS ALONG 7800 SOUTH. AND THEN THERE IS A PROBABLY 80 PLUS ACRES ALONG OLD BINGHAM HIGHWAY. AND MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S REALLY IT'S A SUBSTATION THERE, A PARK AND RIDE FOR THE TRUCK STATION, A DETENTION POND, PART OF THE FREEWAY, PROBABLY THE ONLY, WELL, THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT COULD EVEN ENTERTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD LOCATION, IS THAT ABOUT 20 ACRE PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM INTERSTATE BRICK. AND WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ADDING THIS TO THE USE TABLE OF THE ZONE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR LARRY? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICES OF PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT. IF NOT ANYBODY ONLINE. NO ONE HAS THEIR HANDS RAISED. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR MOTION AND OR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ALAN GOT THIS ONE UP ON THE SCREEN. ANY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT, UPON THE EVIDENCE EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS APPLICATION. COMMISSIONER HATCH, I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY [10. Text Amendment – Veterinary Services; Recommendation to the City Council to Amend the City Code Title 13-5F-2 Permitted and Conditional Uses to allow Veterinary Services as a Permitted Use in the M-1 Zone; city-wide applicability; City of West Jordan (applicant) [Larry Gardner #34819]] OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. OUR LAST ITEM. TEXT AMENDMENT. VETERINARIAN SERVICES RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE CITY CODE. TITLE 13, DASH FIVE, F-2. PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW VETERINARIAN SERVICES AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE M ONE ZONE CITYWIDE APPLICABILITY. AND. LARRY. YOU'RE UP. ALL RIGHT. AND AS I SAID IN THE PRE MEETING IN AN M ONE ZONE, YOU CAN GROOM AN ANIMAL, YOU CAN KENNEL AN ANIMAL AND YOU CAN CREATE AN ANIMAL, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT CARED FOR. SO THIS WILL COMPLETE THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE ANIMAL IN THE ZONE. YOU CAN BUY FOOD FOR IT TO YOU KNOW. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. SHORT AND SWEET. [02:45:08] THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT, SPEAK. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND. YES. AND I'M GUESSING NOBODY'S THERE. NOBODY WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED. GREAT. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, LARRY, THERE'S A I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T BRING MY NOTES IN THE CODE. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR I BELIEVE IT'S ANIMAL CREMATION THAT SAYS IT'S GOT TO BE 100FT FROM RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. IS THERE ANY BENEFIT TO ADDING THAT REQUIREMENT TO THE VETERINARY SERVICES ALSO? I, I DON'T THINK I'VE TAKEN MY ANIMALS TO MANY DIFFERENT VETERINARIANS. SOME OF THEM ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THEY THEY'RE JUST NOT PROBLEMS. RIGHT. AND THEY KEEP PEOPLE. THIS ISN'T A BOARDING. NO. WELL I GUESS BOARDING IS PERMITTED. USUALLY. USUALLY WHEN THEY'RE AFTER SURGERY OR SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT AT THEIR FRISKIEST. SO AND I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BOARD AN ANIMAL, YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER THAN A VETERINARIAN TO DO THAT. SO I DON'T I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT. BUT IT'S THE COMMISSION'S IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. I WAFFLED ON IT SO MUCH JUST THINKING THROUGH IT. SO IT'S GOOD TO GET A SECOND OPINION. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF IT IS ODOR. JULIE WAS LOOKING AT ME AND SWEARING ODOR. YES, I KNOW WHAT COOKING SMELLS LIKE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT COOKING DOG SMELLS LIKE. SO, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO PUT IT, SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH A VETERINARIAN. SO YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT, UPON THE EVIDENCE EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS APPLICATION. WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. AND WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.