* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALRIGHT, [CALL TO ORDER] I'LL BE HERE IN A, IN A MINUTE AND WE CAN WAIT TILL THEY COME BACK TO VOTE. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START IT UP. YOU READY TO GO? ALL RIGHT. I CALL TO ORDER THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN ON JUNE 24TH. UM, ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. TWO OF THEM WILL BE HERE SHORTLY. AND, UH, OH, SORRY, CHAIR, NOT CHAIR. BOARD MEMBER. ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AND BOARD MEMBER BLOOM IS ONLINE WITH US, I THINK. IS SHE STILL IN LINE? SHE'S NOT IN LINE WITH US NOW. OKAY. WE [a. Resolution No. 253 Amending the Fiscal Year 2026 Redevelopment Agency Budget] WILL, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARING. AND DENISE, LOOKS LIKE YOU GET TO HAVE ANOTHER FUN DAY. NO, IT'S WHAT RDA RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 53 AMENING. THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BUDGET. IS THAT IT? THIS IS THE CHAIR. THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE COUNCIL INITIATED ON THE AMENDMENT TWO FROM THE LAST RDA MEETING ABOUT $75,000 FOR SIGNAGE. OH, OKAY. I DUNNO IF IT WAS THAT DETAILED. SO, ALRIGHT, SO MOVING FORWARD, , UH, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, UTILIZING $75,000 FOR A BIG SCREEN. AND AS MOST, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT TIME I WAS, UM, KIND OF QUESTIONING SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT IT. IN THE END, I, UH, TALKED TO VICE CHAIR WHITELOCK AS WELL, OR BOARD CHAIR WHITELOCK, UM, ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND MOVE BUDGET RIGHT NOW AND THEN COME BACK LATER WHEN WE HAVE MORE OF A PLAN, UM, TO, TO DO THIS, UH, SIMILAR TO THE STAGE. UM, I FEEL LIKE WE KIND OF PUSHED FORWARD ON THE STAGE REAL QUICK AND THEN WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED. SO RATHER THAN MOVING FORWARD REAL QUICKLY WITH THIS BIG SCREEN TELEVISION, UM, AND THE COST OF IT, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE. TALK ABOUT COST, TALK ABOUT WHAT? TALK ABOUT WHERE, TALK ABOUT WHY. UM, MY BIGGEST, UH, THING ISN'T REALLY THE COST OF IT. MY BIGGEST THING IS WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT IT. UM, I DO LIVE NEAR SEVEN EIGHTH SOUTH AND I DRIVE BY IT A LOT. UM, BUT REALLY SEVEN EIGHTH SOUTH IS NOT THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE FOR ME AND FOR MOST OF MY JORDAN RESIDENTS AS THE MAJORITY ARE DRIVING UP 70TH AND 90TH. SO MY CAR SHOULD BE, WHY WOULD WE CHOOSE 70TH OF THE OTHER TWO? UH, MY OTHER WORRY WAS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, GARNER VILLAGE EITHER, AND WE BOTH KNOW, OR WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BILLBOARD FOR GARNER VILLAGE HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. SO BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO ALSO HAVE THEM INVOLVED. TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WHY AND, AND THE WHERE. UM, I'M NOT SAYING A, A BIG SCREEN RIGHT THERE WOULD BE BAD, BUT, UM, I'M IN ADVERTISING AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW ABOUT DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AND WHEN YOU HAVE A DIGITAL BILLBOARD, YOU SEE ONE OF THOSE DIGITAL BILLBOARD, UH, SIGNS AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY. SO WE COULD HAVE 6, 7, 8 DIFFERENT TYPES OF MESSAGES ON THERE, BUT REALLY WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE BY, THEY'RE REALLY ONLY SEEING ONE, MAYBE ONE AND A HALF OF THOSE MESSAGES. SO THEN I CALLED A QUESTION AGAIN WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT THAT. AND I DO KNOW I'VE TALKED TO SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PUT IT, UH, NEAR THE PARK, UH, ON 78TH WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING BY BACK AND FORTH, UM, EAST AND WEST, AND THEY COULD SEE THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING COMING UP IN THE PARK AND IT'S ON THAT CORNER AND IT'S MORE VISIBLE. UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT AN INVITATION TO THE CITY, LIKE, UH, 78TH WOULD BE. UM, BUT THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF MAYBE HOLDING BACK ON THE 75 GRAND FOR NOW PUTTING THAT BACK IN AND THEN GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WHY, THE WHERE, THE HOW AND WHY AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THIS. UH, UM, BIG SCREEN. SO COUNCIL MEMBER GREEN, UH, TWO THINGS. ONE, WHY WOULD WE PUT SOMETHING ON 7,800 SOUTH? AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ON 90TH AND 70TH. WE'VE EXPENDED A LOT OF MONEY ON 70TH, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE TUNE OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO IMPROVE THE 70TH GATEWAY. UH, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS PEOPLE USE THE 7,800 SOUTH GATEWAY AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE ENTERING WEST JORDAN AND THEY HAVE NO CLUE THAT GARDNER VILLAGE IS IN WEST JORDAN. SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE GATEWAY, THAT GATEWAY IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS SOME OF THE OTHER GATEWAYS TO TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE COMING INTO WEST JORDAN AND DO THIS STUFF THAT THE UM, AND SO TO SAY, TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON 70TH, THAT'S NOT TRUE. WE ARE, WE, WE WE'RE APPROVING THAT. UM, THAT'S THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY? NO, I SAID WE'RE NOT PUTTING A BIG SCREEN ON 70TH. I DIDN'T SAY WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. I SAID, WHY ARE WE NOT PUTTING A BIG SCREEN ON 70TH? IT WAS TO, I DO NOT SAY WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON 70TH. IT WAS TO, IT WAS TO EXPLORE AND IT WAS BASED ON A CONVERSATION WITH THE STAFF, UM, TO, THEY WERE EXPLORING SOME THINGS AND THEY WANTED THE, THE BASICALLY [00:05:01] THE GO AHEAD TO EXPLORE THINGS. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT SAID 75,000 AND THIS IS PUTTING $70,000 BACK INTO THE, THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE NOT BREAKING EVEN, YOU'RE STILL SPENDING $5,000 ON THIS, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM PUTTING OTHER SIGNS OTHERWHERE ELSEWHERE, UH, LIKE IN THE PARK, BUT THAT'S NOT REDEVELOPMENT BUSINESS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMEPLACE THAT'S A DIFFERENT BUDGET AND DIFFERENT DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER NIGHT. COUNCILMAN OR VICE ? . IT'S TRICKY, HUH? IT IS CONFUSING. UM, FOR ME IT'S A MATTER OF THAT WHOLE TEXT CHAIN ONCE WE SAW THE PRODUCT OF THE STAGE COMPARED TO WHAT I THINK WE ENVISIONED. UM, SO WE'RE JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. UH, NUMBER ONE, OH, GARDNER VILLAGE HAS OWNED THAT SIGN FOREVER. WE JUST BARELY FOUND OUT. AT LEAST I DID RECENTLY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY THAT'S OUR PROPERTY. 'CAUSE EVERY TIME BEFORE I'D ASK AND I WAS TOLD, THAT'S GARDNER VILLAGE. AND SO WHILE I TOTALLY AGREE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN WEST JORDAN WHEN THEY SEE THE AMAZING GARDNER VILLAGE AND THE AWESOME PIONEER HALL AND, AND THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE. I MEAN, WE JUST HEARD FROM A GENTLEMAN IN WORK MEETING THAT HE DIDN'T REALIZE ALL THAT WEST JORDAN HAS. AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR ISSUES, RIGHT? SO I VERY MUCH WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER TO, TO GIVE DAVID $5,000 NOW AND SAY, GET US A PLAN AND PLEASE TALK TO GARDNER VILLAGE AS OPPOSED TO HERE'S SOME MONEY, BRING BACK SOMETHING AND THEN WE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO STAFF TO, TO THEN SAY, OH, WE DIDN'T THINK TO TELL YOU THAT WE WANTED RED AND BLUE INSTEAD OF PURPLE AND GREEN. SO THAT'S WHY I, UH, CO-SPONSORED THIS AND FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD AMENDMENT THAT IT CAN, CAN DO WHAT WE WANTED, BUT IN A MORE STEP APPROACH. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON, UM, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR MAYOR BURTON, UH, BUT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS. AND UM, THE THOUGHT WAS, HEY, IF WE JUST, THE, THE, IF WE SP IF WE, UH, ALLOCATE $75,000 FOR AN ELECTRONIC SIGN HERE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WAS MY QUESTION TO THE MAYOR AND MAYOR BURTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS OR SHOULD I PARAPHRASE OUR CONVERSATION? NO, FILL IN AFTER I, I'LL PARAPHRASE AS BEST I CAN. AND IF I DON'T WANNA MI MISREPRESENT ANYTHING YOU SAID, UH, TO ME IN A, IN A CONVERSATION. SO IF YOU NEED TO JUMP IN, PLEASE FEEL FREE. BASICALLY, THE, THE MAYOR IS NOT IN FAVOR OF AN ELECTRONIC SIGN AT THIS LOCATION. AND, UH, SO IF WE ALLOCATE 75,000, HE, HE'S, UH, HE'S OKAY WITH THE $75,000 AL ALLOCATION, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TOWARDS AN ELECTRONIC SIGN. SO AT THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION, HE SAID, HEY, JUST LEAVE IT. I'LL BRING SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL. HE AGREED WITH ME TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL THAT, UH, THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND APPROVE AND, AND, UH, GET IT, GET ON BOARD WITH. UM, AND THEN ON, ON MY SIDE OF IT, I'M, I'M NOT POSITIVE. WELL, I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT, UH, THAT AN ELECTRONIC SIGN, SPECIFICALLY AN ELECTRONIC SIGN IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION. ALTHOUGH I DO WANT SIGNAGE FOR SURE. THIS LOCATION DOES NEED SOME KIND OF WELCOME TO WEST JORDAN IN IT. UM, AND SO ANYWAY, MAYOR BURTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER SHELTON. PAUL AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. A COUPLE OF WEEKS [00:10:01] AGO I WAS RIDING MY BICYCLE ON JORDAN RIVER TRAIL AND I THINK IT'S 41ST SOUTH, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. THERE'S A BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER THAT ROAD THERE AND ACROSS THAT BRIDGE IT SAYS GREAT BIG LETTERS. IT SAYS WELCOME TO WEST VALLEY CITY. AND WE'VE GOT A BRIDGE THERE AND I'M THINKING THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IT. JUST BE WELCOME TO WEST JORDAN ACROSS THE BRIDGE AS WE COME INTO WEST JORDAN, WE'VE GOT THAT BRIDGE RIGHT THERE TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER AND BE, PROVIDE A WELCOME THERE. THAT'S PROPERTY IS OWNED BY WEST JORDAN. WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT ON THAT, AND THAT CONTRACT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE AN END TIME. SO ANYTHING WE DO FOR THAT SIGNAGE THERE, WE WOULD NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH GARDEN VILLAGE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO AND WE SHOULD BE AT CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. ANYWAY, I DO STOP OVER THERE AND TALK TO JOE EVERY NOW AND AGAIN AND I KNOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOES AS WELL AND DO THAT. I AM NOT A REAL BIG FAN OF ELECTRONIC SCIENCE. I DON'T LIKE THE FILL THEY GIVE OFF. I LIKE THE TYPE OF SIGN THAT GARDNER VILLAGE HAS THERE NOW, AND WE COULD WORK WITH THEM AND, AND IMPROVING THAT SIGN THERE EVEN BETTER. AND HAVE A MORE POSITIVE FEELING WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO WEST JORDAN. I AGREE. I THINK HAVING GOOD SIGNAGE FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW WHEN THEY HIT THE CITY IS IMPORTANT. AND I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND COST ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. BOARD MEMBER. JACOB, JUST A QUESTION ON THAT THOUGHT. THE BRIDGE THERE? THAT'S THE TRACKS BRIDGE, THAT'S THE UDOT BRIDGE. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THE BRIDGE. I DON'T THINK UTA DOES MAY BE OWNED BY UNION PACIFIC OR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, IT IS A BRIDGE FOR RAILROAD, BUT THEY PUT IN ONE OF THE BRIDGES 'CAUSE THEY HAD TO PUT IN A SECOND BRIDGE, SO, RIGHT. SO, SO I AM THINKING WE'D HAVE TO CONTACT WHOEVER THE OWNER OF THAT BRIDGE IS IN ORDER TO GET PERMISSION TO PUT SIGNAGE ON IT. YEAH, I I WOULD THINK IT'S UTA PROBABLY, BUT I MEAN THEY, ON THE, OUR, OUR CITY INFO MAP THAT SHOWED PROPERTY OWNERS DOESN'T SHOW THE BRIDGE. UM, YEAH, IT DOESN'T, BUT IT DOES. I MEAN, THE, THE TRACKS TO THE NORTH OF IT ARE UTA AND THE TRACKS TO THE SOUTH OF IT ARE UTA. RIGHT? SO IF UTA OWNS THE BRIDGE, I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE EASIER TO GET PERMISSION TO SITE EACH OTHER. IT IF UTA OWNS IT AS OPPOSED TO, BUT I DON'T KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM. OKAY. AND I THINK THEY'D BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN A SIGN OFF TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF ELECTRONIC SIGN CAN YOU GET FOR $75,000? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A BIG SCREEN TV. SURE. YOU GIVE WHAT A COSTCO, SEVERAL BIG SCREEN TVS. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON, I, I'VE DRIVEN BY THIS LOCATION NUMEROUS TIMES IN, IN FACT AS, AS RECENTLY AS TODAY. UM, SOMETHING GLARING TO ME IS THAT, THAT THE, THE GARDNER VILLAGE SIGN THAT'S THERE, UH, IS NOT REALLY VISIBLE BECAUSE OF THE TREES GROWING UP AROUND IT. UH, NOT REALLY WELL VISIBLE UNTIL YOU'RE ALMOST RIGHT ON TOP OF IT. UM, SO THE LOCATION OF THAT SIGN NEEDS TO CHANGE IF NOTHING ELSE, PERHAPS HEIGHT, PERHAPS MOVING AT CLOSER TO THE ROAD. UH, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. UH, HOW IF OUR PROPERTY GOES ALL THE WAY TO 7,800, UH, TO THE, THE SHOULDER OF 7,800, BUT THE LOCATION OF THAT SIGN IS VERY PROBLEMATIC. SO, UH, MAYBE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THINGS TO DO THERE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ALAN, THIS IS LISTED AS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I DON'T SEE PUBLIC COMMENT ON MY LIST. DO WE NEED TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT PUBLIC HEARING? YES, IT WAS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MIGHT WANNA SAY SOMETHING, BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, WE'LL THEN CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. , THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE THAT DESIRES TO SPEAK . I DIDN'T. I FIGURED THERE WAS NOBODY THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO, OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 53, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BUDGET. AND I'LL SECOND. SO WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION BY VICE CHAIR WHITELOCK AND BY BOARD CHAIR [00:15:01] LAM. A SECOND MORE DISCUSSION TO THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON. UH, AGAIN, WITH, WITH THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MAYOR BURTON, I THINK THAT WE COULD JUST LEAVE IT AS IT IS AND WAIT FOR, UH, PLANS TO COME FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. UH, I'M BASED ON THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE MAYOR. I THINK I'M IN FAVOR OF JUST LEAVING IT AS IS. UM, SO I WILL BE VOTING. NO. BOB, DID YOU WANNA DO ANYTHING OR YOU GOOD? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER JACOB, I WAS JUST TRYING TO PULL UP THE, UH, AMENDMENT, BUT PRIME GOV IS NOT PULLING IT UP FOR ME. UM, OH, HERE IT IS. I GOT IT OVER HERE. SO THE ONLY, THE ONLY AMENDMENT IS THE $70,000. RIGHT? I WAS JUST SCANNING THROUGH, THERE WAS A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THE PAGE AND RIGHT. IS THIS $70,000 CHANGE? UM, OKAY. I, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON. I DON'T SEE THE NEED YET FOR THIS. I AM IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT AS IS UNTIL WE, UM, UNTIL WE, UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN OR, OR HAVE A BETTER PLAN. SO, UH, I I'M OKAY WITH WHERE WE ARE, SO I'LL BE A NO. ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER DISCUSSION. LET'S VOTE. BOARD MEMBER GREENE. NO. BOARD MEMBER SHELTON? NO. BOARD MEMBER. BLOOM. OH, I DON'T THINK SHE'S ON, SHE'S ON, RIGHT. OH, SORRY. BOARD MEMBER. JACOB? NO. VICE CHAIR. WHITELOCK? YES. CHAIR LAMB? YES. BOARD MEMBER BEDOR? NO. OKAY. I SHOW THE MOTION FAILS. TWO TO FOUR. THANK YOU. [CONSENT ITEMS] ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO CONSENT ITEMS. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GREEN AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER SHELTON. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES SIX TO ZERO. [CLOSED MEETING] ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL NOT BE CLOSING THE MEETING. WELL, WE'LL BE CLOSING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING AND MOVING TO A CLOSED MEETING, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO THIS ROOM AND ADJOURN AFTER THE CLOSED MEETING. THANK YOU. OH, WE NEED TO VOTE. WE NEED TO HAVE A, A VOTE TO GO TO CLOSED MEETING. I NEEDS FIVE TO GO. LET'S JUST GO. YEAH. HELL WITH STATE LAW. ALRIGHT. I MOVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING TO DISCUSS CHARACTER, PROFESSIONAL CHARACTER OF PROFESSIONAL COMPETENCE OR PHYSICAL MENTAL HEALTH, REASONABLY INTERMITTENT LITIGATION OR REAL ESTATE ISSUES. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER JACOB AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER SHELTON. IS IT A ROLL CALL? VOTE. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL VOTE BOARD MEMBER SHELTON SHELTON. BOARD MEMBER SHELTON. YES. CHAIR LAMB. YES. VICE CHAIR WHITELOCK? YES. BOARD MEMBER GREEN? YES. BOARD MEMBER BEDOR? YES. BOARD MEMBER JACOB? YES. THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES SIX TO ZERO. ALL BACK. YOU'RE NOW GONNA ADJOURN THE ADJOURNED. A MATTERS MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.