* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] POTHOLES TO HIRING. IT ALL JUST LOOPS BACK TO ONE SINGLE PROBLEM, THE CITY'S IDENTITY CRISIS. SO LET'S START RIGHT THERE WITH THE PILLAR THAT REALLY DOMINATED THE WHOLE CONVERSATION. [Breakfast] SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND CITY IDENTITY. OKAY, LET'S UNPACK THIS. WHAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE? THEY'RE JOIN US. THE CORE OF IT WAS, UH, PUT VERY BLUNTLY BY ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO DESCRIBED WEST JORDAN AS FEELING LIKE THE WORLD'S LARGEST BEDROOM COMMUNITY. WOW. LARGEST. WOW. THAT WHO SAID THAT? FRANKLY DEPRESSING LABEL. WHY DOES THEY ACTUALLY MEAN FOR ME LIVING THERE? IT MEANS RESIDENTS WAKE UP, THEY LEAVE THE CITY FOR WORK, THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THEN THEY ONLY COME BACK LATE AT NIGHT. AND THE COUNCIL NOTED THAT THIS BEHAVIOR DIRECTLY SHAPES THE KINDS OF BUSINESSES YOU SEE. IT REALLY DOES. NOBODY'S AROUND DURING THE DAY. THE ONLY BUSINESSES THAT CAN REALLY SURVIVE ARE FAST FOOD AND YOU KNOW, QUICK SERVICE SPOTS, THE KIND OF STUFF BEDROOM COMMUNITIES RUN ON. I SEE. SO IT CREATES THAT CLOUD AND CATCH 22 HIGH-END RESTAURANTS OR UNIQUE SHOPS WON'T COME BECAUSE THE DAYTIME CUSTOMERS AREN'T THERE. BUT THE RESIDENTS KEEP LEAVING BECAUSE THOSE AMENITIES AREN'T THERE TO KEEP THEM IN THE CITY. SO HOW DO THEY BREAK THAT CYCLE? THE SOURCES SHOW THIS, THIS FEARS TO TURN OVER, TO INITIATE A RADICAL MINDSET SHIFT. IT'S PHILOSOPHICAL. RESIDENTS HAVE TO START FEELING LIKE THEY'RE FROM WEST JORDAN. A DISTINCT, PROUD IDENTITY. NOT JUST SALT LAKE. EXACTLY. NOT JUST A SUBURB OF SALT LAKE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A MONUMENTAL TASK. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU FLIP THE MINDSET OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE? YOU HAVE TO FLIP THE DEVELOPMENT SCRIPT. SO INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR POPULATION GROWTH TO JUSTIFY INVESTMENT, THAT WHOLE, IF YOU BUILD IT, WE WILL COME IDEA. RIGHT. THE NEW MANTRA IS COME AND WE WILL BUILD IT. IT'S AN AGGRESSIVE CALL TO ACTION TO UH, TO PUNCH ABOVE OUR WEIGHT. AND PART OF PUNCHING ABOVE THEIR WEIGHT IS CREATING THESE IMMEDIATE, RECOGNIZABLE IDENTIFIERS. THINGS THAT TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE WITHOUT MEANING A STREET SIGN. YEAH. THEY WANNA SNOWBALL PUBLIC ART PROJECTS. THEY CITED THE SUCCESS OF THE SUGAR BEET ART ON THE WATER TANK, AS YOU KNOW, PROOF THAT THIS CONCEPT WORKS. THEY WANT THEIR OWN VERSION OF AN ICON. SOMETHING YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY SHARE ONLINE. SOMETHING MEMORABLE LIKE THAT IMAGE, THE BIG PUBLIC WHALE, ITS ALL LAKE GREAT. GIVES YOU THAT IMMEDIATE SENSE OF PLACE. SENSE. PLACE. AND THIS SEARCH FOR IDENTITY ALSO MEANS LOOKING BACKWARDS WHILE PUSHING FORWARD. THEY TALKED ABOUT EMBRACING THE CITY'S PAST, LIKE IMPROVING THE SIGNAGE TO RECOGNIZE GARDNER VILLAGE AS A CORE PART OF WEST JORDAN'S HERITAGE. THE VISUAL GOLD THEME FORCE IS FASCINATING. ONE SPEAKER CITED THE BOSTON MODEL AS THE IDEAL FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN THE BOSTON MODEL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, UH, HISTORY COBBLESTONES AND MONUMENTS RIGHT NEXT TO MODERN GLASS TOWERS. THIS DELIBERATE BLENDING OF THE PAST LAND FUTURE. THAT BLENDING IS SO CRITICAL NOW. THEY ALSO SEE MAJOR EVENTS AS A HUGE IDENTITY BUILDING. OH, ABSOLUTELY. THE CONSENSUS WAS THE CITY NEEDS TO MOVE BEYOND ITS CURRENT LIKE 105 SMALL EVENT DAYS AND FOCUS ON WHAT THEY CALLED BIG EVENT KIND OF THINGS. THINGS THAT DRAW NON-RESIDENTS IN. WE HEARD SOME GREAT EXAMPLES. THE ANNUAL EGG HUNT WAS ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED AS A HUGE SUCCESS. RIGHT. FIRST JOE DID WAS FASTER THAN THE KENTUCKY DERBY, HUH? YEAH. BECAUSE IT SUCCESSFULLY PULLS PEOPLE IN FROM ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS. YEAH. THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT EXPANDING THE MUSEUM'S OFFERINGS, MAYBE WITH A DICKENS OR A PIONEER FESTIVAL AND EVEN HOSTING NATIONAL DRAWS LIKE THE WASATCH IMPROV FESTIVAL, THINGS THAT ATTRACT TOUR PERFORMERS. BUT MY PERSONAL FAVORITE WAS THE IDEA OF CREATING A A DISCO SOCCER GAME. I SAW THAT. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BOX, BUT IT SHOWS THEY'RE NAMING FOR NOVELTY. SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT GETS PEOPLE TALKING AND GETS THEM TO DRIVE TO WEST JORDAN. AND OF COURSE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT UNIQUE IDENTIFIERS, YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S CURRENT CLOSEST ONE RODEO GROUNDS. THE RODEO GROUNDS. AND THIS DILEMMA IS FASCINATING BECAUSE IT'S A LEGACY STRUCTURE. THE STANDS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE. THEY'RE DECADES OLD. THEY WERE MOVED FROM THE OLD LOCATION. RIGHT. AND THE COUNCIL FELT STRONGLY FIXING THEM UP ISN'T ENOUGH. THEY HAVE TO THINK MUCH, MUCH BIGGER. AND THE BIG IDEA, WHICH THE MAYOR AND THIS PROMOTED, IS TO ENCLOSE THE ARENA ENTIRELY, WHICH WOULD TRANSFORM IT. I MEAN IT GOES FROM A SEASONAL RODEO SPOT TO A YEAR ROUND. ENC CLOSED DESTINATION FOR MASSIVE GATHERINGS, CONCERTS, YOU KNOW, MAJOR STATEWIDE EVENTS. A TRUE REGIONAL DRAW. OKAY. BUT IN CLOSING, A MAJOR ARENA IS GOOD. CAMPBELL A MASSIVE EVENT. WHAT MAKES THEM THINK THEY CAN ACTUALLY DRAW THOSE BIG CONCERTS AND EVENTS? WELL, THE CONFIDENCE SEEMS TIED TO THE LOCATION AND FRANKLY THE LACK OF OTHER SUITABLE ALTERNATIVES FOR LARGE YEAR ROUND EVENTS IN THAT REGION. BUT THIS IS WHERE THE EXECUTION CHALLENGE REALLY HITS THE BUDGET. I WAS GONNA SAY, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THAT? THERE WAS A REAL DEBATE. SHOULD THEY ISSUE A BOND? HUH? YOU KNOW, ARGUE THAT FUTURE USERS SHOULD HELP PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, OR AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTED, THEY HAVE TO START A DEDICATED LONG-TERM SAVINGS ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW, EVEN IF IT'S JUST FIVE OR $10,000 A YEAR. THAT'S [00:05:01] A REALLY INTERESTING POINT. PHILOSOPHICAL. THE POINT WAS, IF YOU NEVER START SAVING THE POLITICAL WILL TO DO SOMETHING, THIS MASSIVE WILL NEVER MATERIALIZE. IT JUST DIES A SLOW DEATH. THIS HORSE IS A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT. THAT TENSION BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE ACTION AND SUSTAINABLE SLOW CHANGE IS THE PERFECT BRIDGE TO OUR NEXT PILLAR. YEAH. IDENTITY IS THE PROBLEM. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THE PRESCRIPTION. ABSOLUTELY. ONE COUNCIL MEMBER'S GOAL FOR 2026 WAS A SINGLE WORD WHICH WAS EXECUTE. AND THIS APPLIES MOST STRONGLY TO THAT DECADES IN THE MAKING DOWNTOWN VISION, DOWNTOWN TOP PRIORITY. AND THE NOTES SHOW THAT AFTER YEARS OF TALK AND APPARENTLY EIGHT DIFFERENT DESIGN APPROACHES, THE GOAL FOR 2026 IS TANGIBLE. A COMMITTED DEVELOPER, A SITE PLAN, SOMETHING SITE. AND THE SCALE IS JUST STAGGERING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VISION THAT STRETCHES FROM CITY HALL ALL THE WAY TO GARDNER VILLAGE. IT'S A HUGE AREA. ONE SPEAKER SAID THIS ISN'T ABOUT INFILL, IT'S A RAISE AND REBUILD APPROACH, WHICH INCLUDES THE MASSIVE UNDERTAKING OF RELOCATING THE JORDAN SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY, WHICH HAS JUST SAT THERE STAGNANT FOR EIGHT YEARS. BLOCKING DEVELOPMENT. OH THAT KIND OF JUST FINE VISION. THEY LOOKING FOR AESTHETICALLY, YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD ANOTHER BAY SHOPPING CENTER. NO. AND THAT'S CRITICAL. THE DESIGN HAS TO BE UNIQUE ENOUGH TO BECOME AN IDENTIFIER ITSELF. SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS SPIT OUT BY AN AI PROGRAM. AND THEY CITED A PRETTY UNEXPECTED INSPIRATION. THE FORTINO HOTEL. THAT IS UNEXPECTED. TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT. IT'S ABOUT CREATING A STROLL CONTAINED ENVIRONMENT. THE PORTOFINO FEELS LIKE A VILLAGE, NOT A CITY BLOCK. IT HAS THESE LITTLE AMPHITHEATERS HITTING PLAZAS, WINDING PATHS. THE GOAL IS TO MAKE YOU WANT TO JUST LINGER AND ACCEPT CREATING THAT VIBRANT COMMUNITY THAT THEY LACK. EXACTLY. AND THAT ATTENTION TO DETAIL IS CRUCIAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SHIFTING THEIR RETAIL STRATEGY. THEY NOTED THAT THE CURRENT TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT, LIKE ANOTHER BIG BOX STORE, IS WHAT THEY CALL CRUISE CONTROL. AND THE PROBLEM WITH CRUISE CONTROL IS THAT IT OFTEN JUST, IT CANNIBALIZES THE EXISTING LOCAL BUSINESSES. YEAH. THE NEW HOME DEPOT JUST HURTS THE LOCAL LOADS. RIGHT? IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY INCREASE THE OVERALL SALES TAX REVENUE. YOU'RE JUST SHIFTING WHERE RESIDENTS BUY THEIR STUFF, NOT BRINGING NEW MONEY INTO THIS. SO THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON BUSINESSES THAT ATTRACT EXTERNAL TRAFFIC. YEAH. WHAT THEY'RE CALLING NON ROOFTOP DEPENDENT BUSINESSES. AND THEY HAVE TWO SPECIFIC HIGH IMPACT IDEAS. FIRST THE CONTAINER PART, LIKE THE ONE IN LAS VEGAS, EXACTLY LIKE THAT. A SMALL MALL BUILT FROM . IT WOULD HOUSE LOCAL BOUTIQUES, FOOD TRUCKS, ALL SURROUNDING A CENTRAL STAGE AND PLAYGROUND. THAT'S SMART. IT GIVES SMALL BUSINESSES AN AFFORDABLE ENTRY POINT. AND IT'S ALL ABOUT CREATING THESE EXPERIENCE THAT DRAWS PEOPLE. AND IT ONLY NEEDS A SITE AND A PARKING LOT. NOT A DENSE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT. THE SECOND IDEA MAY BE MORE POWERFUL FOR REVENUE IS AGGRESSIVELY PURSUING AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS. DEALERSHIPS. WHY DEALERSHIPS? HIGH SALES. TAX REVENUE DEALERSHIPS SPECIFICALLY PULL CUSTOMERS IN FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY. REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE NEARBY. YOU'LL DRIVE 30 MILES FOR THE RIGHT CAR. RIGHT? TRUE. AND THAT MEANS ALL THAT SALES TAX IS GENERATED FROM EXTERNAL DOLLARS, WHICH DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THEIR CORE ECONOMIC PROBLEM. WHICH ALL TIES BACK TO THAT DAYTIME CUSTOMER GAP WE MENTIONED AT THE START. IT DOES. THE LACK OF DAYTIME CUSTOMERS IS THE BARRIER. HIGH-END RESTAURANTS ALWAYS CITE FOR AVOIDING WEST JORDAN. SO THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZED BEFORE THAT NEW RETAIL CAN THRIVE. THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO ATTRACT HIGH PAYING JOBS INTO THE CITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOCAL WORKFORCE TO SUPPORT THAT FUTURE RETAIL. YOU DO. OKAY. SO ALL THESE BIG DREAMS ABOUT DOWNTOWN ARE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE ORIENTED. BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW? WHICH BRINGS US TO THE RESIDENT FOCUSED AND CITY AESTHETICS, PILLARS, ROADS. IT'S A HUGE PERENNIAL COMPLAINT, ESPECIALLY ON, ON THE OLDER EAST SIDE. AND ONE COUNCIL MEMBER USED A GREAT VISUAL ANALOGY FROM THE DISNEY MOVIE CARS. RIGHT? YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN A SMOOTH ROAD AND THEN SUDDENLY YOU HIT THE CITY BOUNDARY AND THE ROAD JUST INSTANTLY TURNS BUMPY AND BROKEN. IT HIGHLIGHTS THAT DISPARITY BETWEEN THE OLD AND NEW AREAS AND BEYOND JUST PAVEMENT, WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY WERE FLAGGED AS CRUCIAL SAFETY ISSUES. YEAH. ONE COUNCIL MEMBER EVEN SAID THEY STOPPED BIKING OUTDOORS AFTER NEARLY BEING HIT TWICE. SO IMPROVING SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LIMITS IS A SAVING MANAGEMENT OPERATIONALLY. MAYORS PRIORITIZING. DID YOU THE RETURN COMMUNICATING, RUNNING REQUEST, WHETHER IT'S A DOG BARKING OR TREE BRANCH, THE CHALLENGE IS FINDING A WAY TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP BECAUSE THERE ARE LEGAL LIMITS ON WHAT YOU COULD SHARE ABOUT, SAY AN ONGOING COURT CASE. CLOSING THAT COMMUNICATION LOOP IS SOMETHING COVERED REALLY STRUGGLES WITH. SO IT'S BIG PRIORITY. IT'S, LET'S LOOK AT THE AESTHETIC SIDE. CITY CODE STAFF ARE BEING PUSHED WITH SIMPLIFYING DRAMATICALLY. DENOTES LITERALLY SAY THE GOAL IS TO DELETE, DELETE, DELETE. IT'S A SMART MOVE. THE CURRENT CODE IS SO [00:10:01] COMPLEX IT CAN NUMB EVEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TRYING TO READ IT. SIMPLIFYING IT MEANS FEWER ROADBLOCK BUSINESSES AND CLEARER RULES FOR HOMEOWNERS. BUT SIMPLIFICATION NEEDS ENFORCEABILITY. AND THE SOURCE IS KNOWN IN SOME GAPS IN LIKE WITH DILAPIDATED INDUSTRIAL AREAS OR RESIDENTIAL FIRE HAZARDS FROM OVERGROWN WEEDS. YES. BUT HERE WE SAW A REALLY PRACTICAL SOLUTION INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, WRITING MORE TICKETS, THEY DISCUSSED CREATING A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM TO HELP SENIORS WHO CAN'T MAINTAIN THEIR YARDS. SO YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE HAZARD WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. IT'S COMMUNITY ACTION, NOT JUST CITATIONS. FINALLY, LET'S TURN TO THE PILLAR OF EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION AND INTERNAL EFFICIENCY. THIS IS ESSENTIAL TO MAKING ALL THESE MASSIVE PLANS ACTUALLY HAPPEN. CITY IS LEANING HARD INTO TECHNOLOGIES, SPECIFICALLY AI, TO HELP STABILIZE THE BUDGET. THE SOURCES NOTED THAT ONE EMPLOYEE'S EFFECTIVE USE OF PERSONAL AI IS FULFILLING ROLES THAT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE HIRING SEVERAL MORE STAFF MEMBERS. SO THE FOCUS ISN'T ON AI REPLACING JOBS, BUT ON USING TECH TO FILL NEEDS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE MEET A HUGE JUMP IN PAYROLL COSTS. IT MAKES THE CITY MORE EFFECTIVE WITHOUT ESCALATING COSTS. AND THEY ALSO EMPHASIZED CROSS DEPARTMENTAL EFFICIENCY, LIKE SHARING COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND COST TRAINING STAFF. INTERNALLY, THE COUNCIL IS FOCUSED ON ITS OWN COHESION, USING THE YES AND PRINCIPLE FROM IMPROV COMEDY TO BUILD ON IDEAS AND TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR THE CITY LONG TERM, NOT JUST WHAT LOOKS GOOD FOR THE NEXT REELECTION CYCLE. SO WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN FOR YOU? THE RESIDENT, THE BUSINESS OWNER, OR JUST AN INTERESTED OBSERVER? IT SEEMS THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES ACROSS ALL FIVE PILLARS REALLY BOIL DOWN TO TWO CORE ACTIONS. DEFINE SINGLE VIBRANT IDENTITY, AND THEN AGGRESSIVELY EXECUTE ON THE BIG IDEAS THEY'VE BEEN DEBATING FOR YEARS. THE PHILOSOPHICAL DRIVER BEHIND THE WHOLE BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR ROADS TO THE ROAD 80 GROUNDS IS THIS IDEA OF ENSURING RESIDENTS ARE WHATEVER IN LINE BEHIND ONE CASHIER, RIGHT? IF ANY SERVICE NEEDS OCCURRED, CITY MUST FIND A WAY TO FUND THE NECESSARY LANES OR CAPACITY, EVEN IF IT MEANS RAISING THE BUDGET TO GET BIGGER THINGS DONE. IT'S VERY AGGRESSIVE GROWTH ORIENTED PHILOSOPHY. THAT LEADS US TO THE FINAL PROVOCATIVE THOUGHT BECAUSE BUILDING A MASSIVE NEW DOWNTOWN AND CLOSING A RODEO ARENA AND SHIFTING A CITY'S FUNDAMENTAL IDENTITY, THAT IS NOT A SHORT-TERM PROCESS. SO IT TAKES EXTRAORDINARY UNIFIED LONG-TERM LEADERSHIP. COUNCIL MEMBERS THEMSELVES DISCUSSED THE EXAMPLE OF CARMEL, INDIANA. THEIR MAYOR SERVED SIX OR SEVEN TERMS AND OVERSAW A DECADES LONG PROJECT WHERE THE CITY ACTUALLY TOOK OVER CONTROL OF STATE ROADS JUST SO THEY COULD IMPLEMENT COMPREHENSIVE ROUNDABOUTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY. THAT WAS A MASSIVE, EXPENSIVE PROJECT THAT REQUIRED A SUSTAINED 20 YEAR VISION. SO IF WEST JORDAN IS SERIOUS ABOUT FLIPPING THE SCRIPT FROM A BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO A STATEWIDE DESTINATION, HOW MUST THE CITY AND CRUCIALLY ITS RESIDENTS BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT THE PERMANENCE AND THE DECADES LONG TIMELINE REQUIRED THESE CRITICAL DECISIONS TO FINALLY BEAR FRUIT REQUIRES A LEVEL OF PATIENCE AND UNIFIED SUPPORT THAT IS PRETTY RARE IN MODERN POLITICS. SOMETHING DEFINITELY WORTH MULLING OVER. INDEED. WE LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING DEEPER INTO WHAT COMES NEXT. THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR DEEP DIVE. WE'LL CATCH YOU NEXT TIME. I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH. , ALAN, THAT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU. A GREAT IDEA JUST, IS THAT ALL FREE AI STUFF? MM-HMM . WHO DOES THAT? THAT WAS JUST, THAT COST A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN ELECTRICITY. YEAH. I USED AND 17 CITIES ARE NOW GOING WITHOUT WATER. COMPLETELY FIVE ACRES OF WATER. OBVIOUSLY IT'S AI, IT DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT. TALKED, YOU KNOW, THE SUGAR GATE ON THE WATER TANK AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. BUT IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO CHANGE INDIVIDUAL FROM A W YOU AND LET A, I COME UP WITH A VERY BELIEVABLE PROCESS. I MEAN, THIS WENT TO CARMEL, CARMEL, INDIANA, OR AUSTIN. UM, WELL, WAS GEORGE GOT A LOT STUFF. EVEN THE, THE SUGAR BEET ON THE WATER TANK. THAT'LL AN EXCITING THING. BUT I THINK WHAT I LISTENED TO, WHAT I HEARD WAS LIKE VISION. LIKE LET'S TALK ABOUT EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ONE YEAR, THREE YEAR, FIVE YEAR. WHERE, WHERE IS WEST JORDAN HEADED AND LAYING THAT BROWN FOR USING THE FIVE PILLARS? SO I'M NOT GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO DO, UM, NOTEBOOK LM, BUT IT'S A GOOGLE PRODUCT. UM, YOU CAN UPLOAD. AND SO I'VE DONE, I'VE DONE SOME SAMPLES. I'VE, I'VE UPLOADED, UH, WHEN, WHEN THE COUNCIL HAD THE, HERE'S WHAT I TESTED IT WITH MONTHS AGO, WHEN THE COUNCIL HAD THE DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL COMPENSATION OVER SEVERAL COMMITTEE, THE HOMEWORK SESSION. DO YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR? I UPLOADED ALL OF THOSE IMPROVE MINUTES INTO THIS AND I, AND SO IT'S MINUTES WITH ALL THE TOPICS THAT I JUST SAID. [00:15:01] FOCUS ON COUNCIL COMPENSATION, ABOUT A 10 MINUTE PODCAST ON COUNCIL COMPENSATION, HOW LONG IT TOOK AND ALL ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THIS WAS JUST AUDIO FILE. BUT IF YOU DO AUDIO FILES, UH, WORD DOCUMENTS, UM, EFS, YOU JUST UPLOAD 'EM TO SOURCES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL IT ANYTHING. YOU CAN LEAVE IT AT THAT GENERATE. BUT IT HAS OPTIONS TO MAKE SLIDE DECK. IT HAS OPTIONS TO DO A QUIZ LIKE TO CREATE REPORTS YOU WANT TO TURN IN, WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU MIGHT GET FOR SUGAR BEE ON A WATER TANK IN YOUR REPORT. IT'S ACCURATE. INFOGRAPHICS, FLASHCARDS FOR KIDS. UM, AND YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE IT, YOU KNOW, MAKE FLASHCARD FOR YEAR OLD, 3-YEAR-OLD. UM, BUT THE THING THAT I'VE DONE WITH IT PRIMARILY IS JUST CREATE PODCASTS FOR KINDS. THOSE ARE NOT REAL PEOPLE. IT'S COMPUTER WORDS, ACTORS, TWO KIDS. THANK LISTEN TO OUR COUNCIL IN THAT FORM. LIKE, HERE'S A RECAP OF THE COUNCIL AS LONG AS WE SAY AI GENERATED. YEAH. YOU MAY SAY SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T DO. YEAH. UM, CAN YOU, UH, SEND THAT OUT TO US UHHUH? YEAH, I, I'LL HAVE TO DO IT AS A LINK 'CAUSE THE AUDIO FILE IS TOO BIG TO AS AN EMAIL, BUT I CAN MAKE SURE ADAM HAS THAT. I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD LOCK. USUAL WELL, WEST JORDAN TO DO AN EMAIL. I I LIVE ON NOTEBOOK. LM YEAH, I'M GONNA, I'VE NEVER USED NOTEBOOK, LM, BUT WE DO A BIG ROUND TABLE AT THE WASATCH IMPROV. TALKS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND IMPROV AND SO WE'RE I'M GONNA RECORD IT. DO THE SAME THING. IT'S PRETTY COOL, ALAN. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO IT'S EIGHT 30 MM-HMM . AND I THINK, UH, ME, WARREN, ARE WE RECORDING? YEAH. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. LET'S GET THIS. DO I NEED A CLICK THING? WELL, [Team Building Activity by Chair Bedore] EVERYONE I WANNA THANK YOU FOR, UH, YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY WAS GREAT. I THINK WE HAD A LOT OF, OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS. AND WHAT I LOVED MOST WAS, UH, IT WAS IN BUILDING. THERE WASN'T A LOT OF, THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN. AND THERE'S SOMETIMES WE EVEN THINK THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN TALKING TO EACH OTHER, A LOT OF POSITIVITY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS AND HOW THAT COULD MAYBE HAPPEN, UM, THAT IS REALLY HOW I TRY VERY DESPERATELY TO LIVE MY LIFE IN ALL ASPECTS. AND, EXCUSE ME. AND LAST NIGHT, THOSE OF YOU THAT SAW THE, THE IMPROV SHOW, I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S FUNNY AND I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT I HAVE SOME FUNNY, TALENTED FRIENDS, BUT I WANTED YOU TO KIND OF SEE HOW A TEAM WORKS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT WITH IMPROV, THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT A SCENE WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT. THEY HAD NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING. IT WAS JUST GIVEN A SUGGESTION. AND I'VE GOTTA ENTERTAIN 30 OR FOUR FACES THAT ARE LOOKING BACK. AND THE WAY WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IS DEPENDING UPON EACH OTHER. AND IT'S ABOUT BUILDING ON THINGS. AND IT, IT IS REALLY SURPRISING. UM, IN COMEDY IMPROV, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST RULES, AND IT, WE WON'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE, BUT IS REALLY NOT TO TRY TO BE FUNNY. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE FUNNY, YOU'RE NOT BEING REAL. YOU'RE NOT BEING AROUND. SO JUST THE COMEDY WILL COME BECAUSE WE'RE DOING RIDICULOUS THINGS IN A VERY NORMAL STUDY. NO ONE'S TRYING TO BE FUNNY. BUT I WANTED TO REALLY LET YOU SEE THAT. SO AS I TALK ABOUT THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, YOU'LL HAVE A POINT OF REFERENCE TO GO, OH, LAST NIGHT I SAW THAT THEY DID THAT. AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS PUT THE, THE STUFF THAT WE DO IN THIS WEIRD WORLD OF IMPROV COMEDY AND HOW IT RELATES TO BUSINESS TEAMS, INDIVIDUALS, EVERYTHING. SO MAKE YES HAPPEN. UM, I'LL TELL YOU, UH, REAL QUICKLY, I MADE THE, I WAS IN A, I WAS IN A MEETING, IT WAS A BIG TOWN HALL FOR OUR COMPANY. IT'S GLOBAL SYMANTEC, A GLOBAL CO COMPANY. UH, WE WERE DOING A TOWN HALL AND THE CEO IS THERE AND I HANDLED ALL OF THE AB AND STUFF FOR THE COMPANY. UM, SO I'M WRITING TO THE FRONT, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WORKS. AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT BRAND AND YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A BRAND. AND YOU'VE GOT, HE'S, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT WE SHOULD ALL HAVE OUR OWN BRAND. AND HE LOOKS AT ME AND HE GOES, WHAT'S YOUR BRAND? AND I WENT, UM, I MAKE YES HAPPEN. AND I, I SAID, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, INSTANTLY HE WENT, OH MAN, THAT'S COOL. THAT'S, THAT WAS. AND HE GOES, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT [00:20:01] MEAN? AND I SAID, WELL, AT THIS COMPANY PEOPLE COME TO ME ALL THE TIME AND THEY SAY, I NEED A VIDEO. AND I GO, GREAT. THAT'S WHAT I DO FOR THIS COMPANY. THANKS FOR COMING TO ME. AND THEY GO, I GO, OKAY, I'LL AUTO A VIDEO. I'M GONNA SHOW ME A VIDEO. AND I GO, I WANT IT TO BE LIKE THIS. AND I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND THINK THAT'S A $300,000 VIDEO. YES. I'M SO EXCITED. I RARELY GET TO DO THIS KIND OF BIG THING. AND I'M GOING, YEAH, I'M ON IT. LET'S DO THIS. AND THEY GO, MY BUDGET'S $5,000. I CANNOT MAKE A $300,000 VIDEO FOR 5,000 BUCKS. BUT, AND THAT WOULD BE EASY TO GO, I CAN'T DO THAT. BUT WHAT I'D SAY IS GO, OKAY, WE'LL DO IT. AND I HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT VIDEO. SO WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS I HAVE TO FIND THE REAL YES THAT'S NEEDED. I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, YOU DON'T NEED A $300,000 VIDEO. YOU NEED TO SUPPLY A MESSAGE. WHAT'S THE MESSAGE YOU NEED TO PUT ACROSS? WELL, IT'S THIS. I CAN DO THAT FOR $5,000. I CAN'T DO THAT. SO IT'S NOT FINDING THE REAL. YES. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL START WITH THE REASON FOR NO, WHY DO WE SAY NO? EASY. EASY. WHAT? IT'S EASY. IT'S EASY. IT HAS TWO. WHAT'S THAT? IT ONLY HAS TWO LETTERS. THREE. YEAH. STILL ONE. SY SOMETIMES WE SAY NO BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, KNOW THE RIGHT WORD TO USE HERE. LIKE, WE'RE WE'RE TOLD THAT IF YOU SAY NO, THAT'LL MAKE THINGS BETTER. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS AND ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, IT'LL MAKE MY LIFE CHANGE. I'VE SEEN THAT LOT THESE PAST YEARS. YOU KNOW, CITIZENS THAT GO, I DON'T WANT THAT. IF YOU SAY, IF YOU SAY YES, YOU'RE A HORRIBLE PERSON. YEP. WELL WAIT A MINUTE. LIKE, LET'S LOOK AT ALL, ALL SIDES. NOT JUST SAY NO, THEY'RE AT THE UNKNOWN. YOU'RE AT THE UNKNOWN. YEAH. YEAH. UM, THESE ARE ALL THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANSWERS WHY WE SAY NO. AND SOMETIMES I'M GONNA TELL YOU, I HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE I DO SAY NO AT TIMES. AND THERE ARE THINGS YOU SHOULD SAY NO TO. UH, THE UH, MAYOR WORE HIS DARE TIE YESTERDAY. YEAH. THERE ARE THINGS YOU SAY NO TO, BUT OFTENTIMES WE SAY NO. AND HERE'S THE THING THAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETIMES. AND HOW OFTEN DO WE DO THIS? WE SAY NO TO THINGS BECAUSE WE WANT OUR IDEA TO SUCCEED, BUT WE'LL SAY NO TO OTHERS' IDEAS SO THAT OUR IDEA CAN MOVE FORWARD. IS THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING SOMETIMES WE HAVE A MENTAL DEFAULT TO A ZERO SUM GAME. MM-HMM . INSTEAD OF A GROWING RIGHT. MINDSET. SO THAT'S THE MAIN THING. SO NO, NO IS SOMETHING WE DO ALL THE TIME AND WE SAY ALL THE TIME. SO WHAT I WANNA DO IS I WANNA GET US INTO THE MINDSET OF THINKING YES. AT LEAST FIRST BEFORE WE GET THERE. SO I NEED TO VOLUNTEER FOR SOMETHING REALLY QUICK. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE SIMPLEST THINGS. IF YOU WERE AT THE SHOW LAST NIGHT, I MAKE VOLUNTEERS DO THINGS AND IT'S FUN. THESE ARE ALL GONNA BE FUN. I'M GONNA NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR A COUPLE THINGS TODAY. THIS ONE PROBABLY THE EASIEST OF ALL OF THEM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES RIGHT AWAY. JUST STAY RIGHT THERE. JUST STAY RIGHT THERE, KEN. OKAY, SO, UH, LET'S GO BACK OVER THERE CLOSER TO THE, THE END OVER THERE. PERFECT. ALRIGHT, THAT'S ONE. ALRIGHT. ALL I NEED YOU TO DO KENT, IS WALK TO ME . I'M TRYING TO BE FUNNY. WHERE? WHERE'S HR? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY. ALRIGHT, WELL, SO HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO NOW. I WANT YOU TO WALK BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE BUT DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU DID THE TIME BEFORE. JUST ADDED MORE SWAGGER. COOL. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. NOW WHAT I'M GONNA NEED YOU TO DO IS I NEED YOU TO COME UP WITH A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS TO WALK BACK AND FORTH. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO? VERY DIFFICULT T MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS. AND REMEMBER, I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS IS WHAT I'M MAKING. YES. HAPPEN. MAYBE JUST NATURE OF MY HUMANITY WOULD MAKE EACH TIME DIFFERENT JUST BY THE MERE FACT . SO I LOVE THAT. WHAT WOULD BE A RESPONSE? 'CAUSE WE GET REQUESTS LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. STUPID GOOD REQUESTS THAT MAKE NO SENSE AND ARE VERY, VERY ABSURDLY DIFFICULT. AND WHY DO WE SAY NO? DOES ANY OF US WANT TO THINK OF A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS? WELL, SAYING YES. IF I SAID YOU HAD TO SAY YES RIGHT NOW, YOU'D VERY LIFE DEPENDED ON YOU COMING UP WITH A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS. FIGURE IT OUT. YOU'D FIGURE IT OUT . AND THIS IS WHAT YES DOES. SO THANK YOU KEN. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. SAYING YES MAKES YOU FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE AND YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE UNTIL YOU CAN NO LONGER COME UP WITH SOMETHING. LEMME TELL YOU WHEN I TALK ABOUT THIS AND I'LL TELL PEOPLE A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS, I'LL GO, OKAY, JUST, I JUST WANT YOU [00:25:01] TO THINK ABOUT THIS. A MILLION IS A HUGE NUMBER AND THAT'S THE PART THAT SCARES US. THE, THE PART OF UNKNOWN THAT'S TOO MANY. AND IF I SAID, WELL, YOU COULD DO IT. WHATEVER YOU COME UP WITH, YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR EYES OPEN, YOUR EYES CLOSED, WE'RE DONE 500,000 WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO COME UP WITH THE VARIOUS WAVE ONE WALK. AND THEN WE DO YOUR EYES CLOSED. AND IF YOU JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES ON ALL OF 'EM AND I SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE EYE OPEN, ONE EYE CLOSED, THE OTHER EYE OPEN, THE OTHER EYE CLOSED, ONE ARM UP, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, ONE ARM DOWN, ONE BACK. ALL I'M DOING, AND LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, JUST HUMANITY WILL MAKE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. YOU CAN, WITHIN JUST A FEW OF THOSE LITTLE EXAMPLES I GAVE YOU, CHOP IT DOWN WHERE YOU'RE ONLY HAVING TO COME UP WITH A COUPLE THOUSAND DIFFERENT WAYS. THAT'S WAY DIFFERENT THAN THE MILLION. IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE REAL ANSWER IS. THE REAL ANSWER WASN'T, I NEED A MILLION VERY DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT THINGS. I NEED A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS. AND WHAT CAN YOU DO WITHIN THAT? SO WHAT WE DO, AND WE THINK YES, FIRST IS WE NOW THINK, ALRIGHT, HOW CAN I DO THIS? WHAT IS THE YES AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA GET TO THE END GAME ON THIS? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO THIS GUY IS? DANIEL P. LANGLEY. OH YEAH. GOOD. OKAY, GOOD. . THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES EVER OF A NEW PHILOSOPHY KILLING A PROJECT. THIS GUY HERE IS A HERO TO THE NO WORLD. WE DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS. ALTHOUGH AT A TIME HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE NAMES IN MEDIA. NOT, WE HAD BIG MEDIA BACK THEN, BUT EVERYTHING THIS MAN DID, GOT ALL THE FUNDING FROM THE GOVERNMENT. IT NEEDED, IT GOT PRESSED ALL OVER HIM TO JUST GO, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THIS? BUT WHAT HE'S GOT RIGHT HERE, YOU GUYS KNOW WHO THE WRIGHT BROTHERS ARE, RIGHT? RIGHT. AT THE SAME TIME, AMERICA SAID, WE WANT TO FLY. WE WANT FLIGHT. THEY GAVE THIS MAN EVERYTHING HE COULD ASK FOR EVERYTHING. AND HE KEPT SAYING, THIS IS STUPID. WE AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE LONG FLIGHTS. WE'LL NEVER HAVE IT. THEY JUST KEPT GIVING HIM MORE MONEY AND SAYING, AND GIVING HIM ALL THE PEOPLE HE COULD NEED, ALL THE RESOURCES HE COULD NEED. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. THEY BUILT THE WEIRD BARGE. AND, UH, HE TRIED DO THINGS, BUT CONSTANTLY. AND EVERY TIME THE PRESS WOULD TALK TO, HE'D GO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. BUT NOW I I JUST DON'T STAND DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP. HE WAS CONSTANTLY A NO GUY, TWO GUYS THAT RAN A BICYCLE FACTORY BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN DO THIS. THEY HAD THE YES MENTALITY. NO ONE WAS FOLLOWING THEM. THEY DIDN'T HAVE RESOURCES, BUT WHAT THEY HAD WAS THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY PUT ON THEMSELVES TO I'M GONNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND I'M GONNA FIND THE YES. THIS MAN. THE MINUTE NEWS ABOUT THE WRIGHT BROTHERS FLIGHT CAME OUT, HE WENT, OH WELL, ALL RIGHT. I GUESS THEY DID IT ALL RIGHT. WE CAN SHUT, SHUT DOWN NOW. AND DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO GO, WOW, I'VE GOT THE BEST MINDS IN THE WORLD, LET'S MAKE THIS BETTER. HE JUST WENT, WELL, ALL RIGHT. WE GAVE, WE GAVE IT A TRY. YAY TO THOSE GUYS. WHAT'S MY NEXT PROJECT? HISTORY HAS NO IDEA WHO SAMUEL P. LANGLEY IS UNLESS YOU LOOK FOR HIM. BUT HE IS ONE OF THE MOST OBVIOUS NO PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET. I DON'T DO A LOT OF QUOTES 'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY LIKE PEOPLE'S QUOTES 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY MEANT SOMETHING TO THEM. BUT I LIKE THIS ONE. THE WORLD IS MOVING SO FAST THESE DAYS. THE MAN WHO SAYS IT CAN'T BE DONE IS GENERALLY INTERRUPTED BY SOMEBODY DOING THAT'S SOMEONE SAID, YEAH, LET'S GIVE IT A SHOT. SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT. ALL RIGHT, SO THE POWER OF YES, POWER OF YES COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE. I HAVE SPENT MY LIFE GOING, YEAH, SURE, I'LL GIVE IT A TRY. UH, I EVEN IN RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS DOING, BUT I TALKED ABOUT IT TO MY WIFE SO MANY TIMES, UM, THAT LITERALLY SHE SAID, YOU CAN GO DECLARE YOUR CANDIDACY OR STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. MM-HMM . YOU'VE GOT YOUR CHOICE. SO I WAS IN TANGIE'S OFFICE THE NEXT MORNING AND LIKE I TOLD SOME OF YOU WHEN SHE ASKED, WHAT DISTRICT ARE YOU IN? I WHAT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO RUN. WELL, YOU GOTTA BE IN A DISTRICT. WELL, OKAY, HERE'S AN INTERESTING ONE. THIS JOB HERE I HAD FOR A LITTLE WHILE. I GOT A CALL ONE DAY SAYING, [00:30:01] HEY, THIS IS ALANA BROPHY. I'M THE CHIEF METEOROLOGIST AT ABC FOUR. HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THE WEATHER? AND I, I KNOW I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THE WEATHER. NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I EVER THOUGHT ABOUT BEING A WEATHERMAN. SHE GOES, WELL, WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED. AND SOMEONE SAID, THEY THOUGHT YOU WERE A PERSON WHO COULD DO THIS. AND I WENT, WELL, IF SOMEONE THOUGHT I COULD DO IT, I SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE IT A TRY. SO I WENT IN AND TALKED TO THEM. NINE DAYS AFTER THAT PHONE CONVERSATION, I WAS DOING THIS IN A ROOM WITH JUST A BIG GREEN SCREEN AND A CLICKER IN MY HAND AND TRYING TO NOT LOOK LIKE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WEATHER IS AND MAKING IT HAPPEN. AND I ENDED UP DOING THAT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. AND I LITERALLY THOUGHT, MAN, I'M GONNA, THIS IS FUN. I'M GONNA KEEP DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. UNTIL THE NEWS DIRECTOR CAME IN AND SAID, YOU HAVE, YOU ARE NOT A METEOROLOGIST. I DON'T WANT YOU ON THE AIR ANYMORE. I DON'T, WHAT IS THAT MATH? NOT SAY QUESTION. UH, BECAUSE I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME. HE WASN'T THE PRODUCER. HE WAS THE TALENT . NO, I WAS ALSO THE, I HAD THE, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON THE WEATHER. I WAS TRYING TO, I WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU . NO, NO, NO. I'M SAYING, HERE'S THE WEIRD THING, THE NEWS, EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING, THEY'VE GOT TELEPROMPTERS, EVERYTHING GOING ON, AND THERE'S PRODUCERS ALL TALKING AND HELPING THEM AND DOING EVERYTHING. AND ALL THEY'VE REALLY GOTTA DO IS READ THE NEWS. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON BEHIND US. WE CREATE ALL THE GRAPHICS. WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FORECAST WEATHER. WE HAVE TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. AND THEN THE WHOLE TIME I'M TALKING AND I'M TOLD I'VE GOT THREE AND A HALF MINUTES, THERE'S NO TELEPROMPTER. IT'S JUST ME MORE JUST LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT SLIDE SAY? OKAY, I'M GONNA TALK TO THAT. OKAY, I'M GONNA TALK TO THAT. THE WHOLE TIME I'M DOING THAT, THERE'S SOMEONE IN MY EAR GOING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE THINGS. BOB, YOU NEED TO NOW TAKE CUT 30 SECONDS OFF OF THAT, I'M GONNA COUNT YOU DOWN. ALL RIGHT, WELL, OH NO, HOLD ON, WE'VE GOT A THING COMING. ALRIGHT, WELL YOU GOTTA GO IN 10, 9, 8. AND I'M LIKE, AND THEY'RE LITERALLY IN YOUR EAR LOUD. THAT FREAKED ME OUT THE FIRST TIME. I'M LIKE, DUDE, I'M JUST TRYING TO, BUT, UH, BUT I SAID YES. AND THEN WHEN I STARTED DOING IT, I WAS LIKE GOING, I'VE GOTTA, I'VE GOTTA BE BETTER ABOUT THIS. OKAY? MY SECOND WEEK, ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE THINGS I WAS ON, I SAID, HEY, SO WE'VE GOT A HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM COMING IN. YOU KNOW WHAT, I KNOW WHAT A HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM IS BECAUSE I LOOKED IT UP TODAY. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I FOUND OUT. AND I, YOU KNOW, DID THAT. AND I THOUGHT FOR ME IT WAS JUST KIND OF A FUNNY BIT. WE HAD PEOPLE EMAILING THEN GOING, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT. AND, UH, BUT I GOT TO WHERE I COULD WITHIN TWO MONTHS ON THE JOB, I WAS NOW FORECASTING ALL MY OWN WEATHER AND I GOT, 'CAUSE THEY KEEP TRACK OF EVERYONE'S FORECAST. I WAS ONE OF THE TOP ONE TIME, I WAS THE SECOND HIGHEST RATED IN GETTING IT RIGHT. BUT I WAS ALWAYS IN THE TOP FIVE OF ALL OF UTAH. AND FOR A GUY WHO KNEW NOTHING, IT'S 'CAUSE I SAID, YES, YOU BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE DEGREES. I DIDN'T HAVE A DEGREE. YEAH. IT TURNS OUT, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, GOOD ONE. YEAH, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT. TELL ME WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY VERY EASY. IN FACT, WE'RE GONNA TELL A STORY RIGHT NOW. I NEED, UH, I NEED ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE TO COME UP HERE REAL QUICK FOR ME. AGAIN, VERY SIMPLE LITTLE THING. SO PLEASE, WE'RE GONNA BE QUICK. JUST FIVE PEOPLE COME UP. COME ON, HE'S JOINING ME. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO ON CHAD. COME ON CHAD, YOU CAN DO THIS. . THIS ONE'S ANOTHER EASY ONE. ALRIGHT? AND YEAH, COME ON, COME ON. HOW GET, I JUST SAID ABOUT FIVE. SO THESE, UH, THESE SIX PEOPLE HERE ARE GONNA TELL YOU A STORY. HERE'S AN INTERESTING THING THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO THOUGH. THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY, CREATING A STORY THAT DEBORAH EXISTED UNTIL JUST NOW. AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT SIMPLE. I DO THIS IN ELEMENTARY CLASSES. SO YOU GUYS ARE ALMOST AT THAT LEVEL TO WHERE YOU CAN DO IT ALMOST. WE'RE GONNA TELL THE STORY, BUT WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO IT ONE WORD AT A TIME. WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME DOWN THE LINE, YOU ARE GONNA ADD ONE WORD. WHEN IT ENDS UP HERE, IT'LL JUMP BACK TO YOU. AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP GOING AND WE'RE GONNA TELL THIS AMAZING STORY. SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, MAYOR, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE ANIMAL? MOUSE. MOUSE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, GIVE, GIVE ME ANY OCCUPATION. UH, WEATHERMAN. WEATHERMAN. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT MOUSE AND WE GOT WEATHERMAN. THAT'S ALL. YOU SIX KNOW ABOUT THIS STORY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA TELL US AN AMAZING LITTLE STORY ABOUT MOUSE AND WEATHERMAN. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE ALL GONNA COLLIDE. MAYBE ONE THING OR TWO. THAT'S UP TO YOU FOLKS. I'M GONNA START, I'M GONNA SAY ONCE UPON A TIME, AND THEN ANNETTE, YOU'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. OR WE'LL GO DOWN. WE'RE GONNA TELL THIS STORY. YOU GUYS READY FOR THIS INCREDIBLE STORY? GOOD. HERE WE ARE. ONCE UPON A TIME, DISNEYLAND WAS [00:35:01] A MOUSE WAS A, OH, JEEZ. ONCE UPON A TIME, DISNEY WAS, DISNEYLAND WAS A CHEESE. THAT WAS A MOUSE. WELL, YOU ONLY HAD ONE WORD. I GAVE TWO WORDS. MOUSE THOUGHT CHEESE. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. SO WE KEEP GOING ONCE UPON A TIME, DISNEYLAND WAS A CHEESE BREAD, BREAD, MOUSE. . WAS IT CHEESE, BREAD, MOUSE. ALL RIGHT, CONTINUE ON. YEP. IT WAS WONDERFUL THAT, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY SMELL VERY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT SIX WORD SENTENCES CONSTANTLY GOING. OKAY, ONCE UPON A TIME, DISNEYLAND WAS A CHEESE BREAD THAT WAS WONDERFUL AND DIDN'T SMELL ONE. ONE OF OF ONE OF THESE CHARACTERS WAS THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO END ON THE SIX SIX PERSON. ONE OF THESE CHARACTERS WAS ROCKING. OH, NOW WE'VE GOT CONFLICT OF PLOT COMING INTO THIS. SEE WHERE WE GO WITH THIS? THEN? SQUEAKY. OH, WEATHER DECIDED. DRIVE EVERYONE INSANE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT RAIN WOOD SQUEAK INTO THOUGHT, BACK THOUGHT WHAT THAT SAY. SORRY. LET'S, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE GET TO A, A MORAL ENDING OF THIS STORY. LUCKILY WEATHER WEATHERMAN CAN BE DON RIGHT THERE AGAIN. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, THIS MINDSET COMES UP OF NOW THE IDEA OF, I HAVE SAID, I'M GOING TELL THE STORY, BUT NOW YOU ARE A PART OF THIS TEAM TELLING THE STORY AND IT'S NOT ABOUT, UM, I'VE SEEN THIS SO MANY TIMES WHERE WE'VE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SOMEONE IN THEIR MIND IS THINKING, OH MAN, OH MAN, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO CRAZY. WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO ME, I, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DUH . OH, OKAY. OKAY. BUT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO ME AGAIN, I'VE GOT IT. I'VE GOT IT. AND, AND, UM, , IT'S ABOUT BEING A PART OF THE TEAM THAT'S TELLING THIS ONE STORY ABOUT MOVEMENT. AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT HEARING SOMETHING RIDICULOUS RIGHT BEFORE YOU AND JUSTIFY MAKING IT MOVE FORWARD. NOT ABOUT, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE TO STOP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WRONG. IT'S GOING IN IMPROV, WE HAVE THIS THING, IT'S, IT'S LEADING WITH YES, YES. IS ALWAYS, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH. AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE I WANT TO, I WANT OUR COUNCIL TO RALLY KIND OF TAKE ON THIS LEAD WITH. YES. SO WE HAVE THESE RULES OF IMPROV. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT AS WE'RE DOING THAT MENTALLY, WE'VE GOT THESE RULES WE WORK ON. YES. AND IT JUST MEANS YOU MIGHT'VE HEARD SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T LIKE, BUT IT, IT'S BEEN SAID, IT NOW EXISTS IN THE WORLD AND YOU CAN'T SAY NO. AN EXAMPLE OF YES. AND THAT I'VE, I'VE, UH, THAT A PART OF, UM, YEAH, I, I'LL TAKE POINT. IT MIGHT BE LIKE, YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA FOR AN ICE CREAM SHOP STORY, BUT SOMEONE SAID, WE'RE IN A BICYCLE SHOP. YOU CAN'T GO, WELL THIS ISN'T A BICYCLE SHOP. IT'S AN ICE CREAM SHOP. BECAUSE NOW THE AUDIENCE IS GOING WHERE? WHAT'S, WHERE ARE WE? WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT YOU CAN DO. LET'S GO. YEAH, IT'S GREAT. AND THEY SELL ICE CREAM HERE. BICYCLE ICE CREAM BOOK. YEAH, I EXACTLY. , I WENT ON STAGE ONE TIME AND, UH, AN ACTOR THOUGHT IT'D BE FUNNY. AND HE GOES, WHY DO YOU HAVE A DUCK ON YOUR HEAD? OBVIOUSLY I DID NOT WANT TO DO A SCENE WITH A DUCK ON MY HEAD. AND I COULDN'T JUST GO, THERE'S NO DUCK ON MY HEAD. SO I SAID, OH, FORGOT I HAD THAT. HEY, LISTEN, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU. I ACKNOWLEDGED THERE WAS A DUCK ON MY HEAD AND I LET THE ACTOR KNOW WE'RE MOVING ON . WE'RE ALWAYS WATCHING, ALWAYS LISTENING IN THAT BIT. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU THINKING WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, IT'S ABOUT WATCHING AND LISTENING TO WHERE AM I GONNA CONTRIBUTE INTO THIS? IT'S ABOUT TRUSTING YOURSELF. IT'S ABOUT SAYING SOMETHING AND DOING SOMETHING REALLY, BECAUSE YOU CAN TRUST [00:40:01] YOUR TEAM. AGAIN, LAST NIGHT YOU SAW EXAMPLES OF THAT ACTORS JUST SAYING THE WEIRDEST THINGS ARE DOING THE WEIRDEST THINGS. AND THEY FELT FREE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY KNEW THE OTHERS AROUND THEM WOULD CONTINUE THAT AND NOT CALL THEM OUT. WE MAKE THE TEAM THE STAR WHEN WE DO OUR IMPROV, IT IS NEVER ABOUT ONE PERSON DOING SOMETHING. AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS, HOW IT WORKS IN A BUSINESS LATER. WE PICK UP AFTER EACH OTHER, WE MOVE ON, WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE CONTRIBUTING. WE DON'T LABEL EACH OTHER. AND THE BEST THING I LOVE ABOUT IMPROV AND ABOUT LIFE IN GENERAL IS THAT IT'S OKAY TO FAIL. IT IS OKAY TO FAIL. YOU CAN GO THROUGH AND WE'VE HEARD THE STORIES OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE LIGHT BULB WAS INVENTED, IT WAS LIKE 10,000 MISTAKES WERE MADE BEFORE THEY GOT THE RIGHT ONE. AND IT WASN'T ABOUT HOW MANY MISTAKES. IT WAS ABOUT GETTING TO A FINAL THING AND BEING OKAY. UH, I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LIKE ALL OUR CODES, BUT THERE'S ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO, BUT IT'S, IF YOU SEE A GUY TAKING A PICTURE ON THE TOP OF MOUNT EVEREST, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH BET HE DIDN'T JUST START THERE DIDN'T, WASN'T JUST DROP THERE TO TAKE A PICTURE. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED MOVING ON. SO WHAT WE DO, WE'LL GO TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE, SOME MORE, BUT I'M GONNA PLAY ANOTHER GAME WITH ALL OF YOU RIGHT NOW. THIS IS EVERYBODY. THIS IS CALLED YES AND ADVERTISING. I'VE DONE MARKETING KINDA STUFF MOST OF MY LIFE. BUT THIS IS THE THING WHERE, THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO. I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION AND ALL I NEED IS I NEED SOMEONE IN THE ROOM TO YELL OUT AND ANSWER. ANSWER, THANK YOU. I SAID, AND ANSWER BUT, AND ANSWER. ONCE THAT'S DONE, ONCE IT'S STARTED, I DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO GIVE ME A DIFFERENT ANSWER. I JUST WANT THAT ONE ANSWER. AND I WANT EVERYONE TO APPLAUD THAT ANSWER. YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER, DO YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, FA WITH YOU. GOOD ANSWER. GOOD ANSWER. YEAH, I WANT THAT KIND OF FEELING. THEN I'M GOING TO SAY, WHY IS THAT A GOOD ANSWER? AND I NEED SOMEBODY ELSE TO TELL ME WHY IT WAS A GOOD ANSWER QUICKLY. AND ONCE THEY'RE DOING IT, I DON'T NEED ANYONE ELSE. I JUST NEED ONE PERSON TO JUMP IN AND DO BASICALLY UNDERSTAND THE RULES OF THIS LITTLE, LITTLE GAME HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE GOT A WAREHOUSE FULL OF A CERTAIN PRO, UH, PRODUCT I NEED TO GET RID OF. WHAT IS MY WAREHOUSE COMPLETELY FILLED TO THE ROOF WITH PIPE. PIPE. DID YOU SAY PIE OR PIPE? PIPE, PIPE, WATER PIPE. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD HANDS. WHEN I COME HERE TO THE, UH, THE BUSINESS OF GUESTS AND ADVERTISING, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE ALL THE VERY, VERY BEST IN MARKETING SOMETHING I GOTTA TELL YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED, BUT MY WAREHOUSE IS FULL OF HYPE PIPE ALL OVER THE PLACE. CAN YOU HELP ME SELL PIPE? YES. YES. ALRIGHT, GOOD. YES, IT'S NOT TALKING. YEAH, I GOTTA, I SHOULD SAID, I DIDN'T JUST NEED ONE PERSON FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'VE GOTTA SELL THIS AND I'VE GOT THAT WAREHOUSE, BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER WAREHOUSE THAT IS FULL OF MONEY. SO MONEY IS NO OBJECT IN TRYING TO SELL THIS PIPE. I JUST WANT THAT PIPE OUT OF MY OTHER WAREHOUSE SO I CAN PUT MORE MONEY IN THAT WAREHOUSE. SO I'M THINKING I WANT TO DO SOME, YOU KNOW WHAT I, I THINK I REALLY, I WANT MONEY'S NO OBJECT. I WANT A SPOKESPERSON. WHO, WHO WOULD, WHO DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY SPOKESPERSON? SNOOP THAT, OH MY GOD. SNOOP. SNOOP DOGG. SNOOP DOGG. EVERYBODY CAN SELL PIPES. , SNOOP DOGG. UH, WHY, WHY SNOOP DOGG ONE PERSON. HE'S ALIVE. HE'S ALIVE. . HE IS ALIVE. YEAH, THAT GETS PRETTY MUCH EASIER. IT'S, IT'S SO HARD TO, TO GET A SPOKESPERSON DEAD. UM, ALRIGHT, SO I'VE GOT THIS PIPE, I'VE GOT SNOOP DOGG. UH, MAN, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY OBVIOUS. I NEED, UH, I NEED WHAT KIND OF PIPE? I NEED HIS SLOGAN. I NEED HIS SLOGAN. WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BIG THING? WHAT'S THE TAGLINE OF THE ADS GONNA BE? I'M GONNA GO SNOOP DOG GONNA GO. HI, S**Z IS TOTALLY . SO WHAT ALONG WITH THAT, SAY IT AGAIN. FAIZ SHIZZLE. WHY, WHY FLY FA SHIZZLE SOME AROUND THIS OTHER ONE. WHY FA SHIZZLE WALK? HE RAP ABOUT IT. HE'D, HE'D RAP ABOUT IT. YEAH. GOOD. ALRIGHT. GOOD? YEAH. OKAY. WHAT I NEED, YOU GUYS ARE GREAT. I NEED SOMEONE TO GIMME A COUPLE LINES OF THE WRAP THAT HE'S GOING TO, [00:45:01] UH, SAY ABOUT THIS PRODUCT QUARTER. ROLL THAT IN MY SIX FOUR . THAT'S ONE LINE. AND JUICE SMOKING PIPE DOWN THE ROAD. ALL RIGHT, I LIKE THIS. LET'S, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING? LOCATION. I WANT TO FILM THIS AD IN A GREAT LOCATION. WHERE'S THE LOCATION? WE'RE GONNA FILM THIS PIPE AT WEST JORDAN. WEST JORDAN. WHY WEST JORDAN? IT'S THE VAST JORDAN, NOT YOU. COMPTON WASN'T AVAILABLE. COMPTON WASN'T AVAILABLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. UM, UH, I'VE ADVERTISED IN EVERY MEDIUM BEFORE I, I NEED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE NEWSPAPER, WE'VE DONE THE RADIO, WE'VE DONE DIGITAL, WE'VE DONE ALL BILLBOARDS, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING. I WANT A NEW MEDIUM. UH, CREATE SOMETHING FOR ME. WHAT WOULD THAT TAKE? TIKTOK. TIKTOK. OKAY. TIKTOK. WHY TIKTOK AGE? NOT FROM THE PERSON WHO SAID TIKTOK. EVERYBODY USES IT. EVERYBODY USES IT. OKAY, EVERYBODY COOL. TRY TO KEEP THE APPLAUSE METER GOING. ONE LAST ONE. ONE LAST ONE. UM, I HAVE THIS OTHER WAREHOUSE, AND I'M THINKING MAYBE IF YOU BUY A PIPE, YOU ALSO GET A FREE SOMETHING MATCHES, MATCHES, LOSS, . GOOD ANSWER. WHY? WHY MATCHES SOMEBODY ELSE? BECAUSE SNOOP DIAGNOS KNOWS THE MATCHES AND TYPE GO WELL TOGETHER. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. . ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S A STRIKE A A VERY SILLY LITTLE EXERCISE IN A WAY. BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN IN BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T ANSWER DURING THIS, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN A BRAINSTORMING SESSION WHERE YOU JUST FELT FREE TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO SAY? A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE SAID YES. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE NOT SAID MUCH FOR FEAR OF BEING TOLD THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK OR THAT'S STUPID? YEAH, THAT IS OFTEN THIS, I LOVE THIS BECAUSE IT JUST, IT LETS YOU BE FREE TO THINK I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY ELSE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT I SAID AND IT STRUCK THEM TO THINK, WHY WAS THAT A GOOD IDEA? AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHY IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. NO ONE IS THINKING, NO, I'VE GOT A BETTER, BETTER IDEA. WE'RE GOING TO THIS, THIS GOES WITH THIS THEORY. SO PIXAR, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS PUT OUT SOME INCREDIBLE MOVIES. WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IS THE PIXAR PROCESS FOR MAKING A MOVIE SEEMS VERY DIFFERENT THAN HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD DO IT. AND THEY'VE BEEN CHANGED UP THE MALL A LITTLE BIT. BUT IN THE EARLY DAYS WHEN I THINK THEY WERE AT THEIR THEIR BEST, WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD GO, WE'VE GOT A MOVIE. 'CAUSE THEY WROTE DOWN LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT NAMES FROM MOVIES AND LITTLE MINI PLOTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WALLY. UH, WE'RE, WE NEED TO DO A SUPERHERO MOVIE, WE NEED TO DO THAT. THEY WROTE SOME OF THOSE DOWN. THESE ARE GONNA BE THE MOVIES WE'RE GONNA START WITH. THEY THEN GO TO THEIR CREATIVE FORCE AND SAY, AND IT WOULD BE LIKE IF I CAME HERE TO THE COUNCIL MAYOR AND SAID, I NEED, AND THEY WOULD GO, I NEED A MOVIE. IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A ROBOT AT THE END OF THE WORLD. AND IT'S TRYING AND, AND HE'S CLEANING UP. AND, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL WE GOT. AND ABOUT TWO WEEKS, I WANT YOU TO COME TO ME AND GIVE ME YOUR BEST IDEA FOR THAT MOVIE. THE EIGHT PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE AND THEY WOULD SPEND TWO WEEKS TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST IDEA THEY COULD. BUT HERE'S WHAT MADE PIXAR PIXAR. ALL EIGHT OF THOSE PEOPLE KNEW THAT THEIR IDEA, NO MATTER HOW GREAT IT WAS, WAS NOT THE IDEA THAT WAS GOING TO LEAVE THAT ROOM. THE IDEA THAT LEFT THAT ROOM IS THE ONE THAT TOOK SOME OF THE BEST ELEMENTS OF ALL OF THEM. AND THEY WOULD HAVE THAT CREATE THE THING. AND THIS GOES ON IN SITCOMS. YOU'LL SEE SOMEONE'S NAME WRITTEN AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THE WRITER, BUT THEY HAVE A WRITER'S ROOM. AND THE WRITER'S ROOM IS ALL ABOUT, OH, WE CAN DO THIS, ADD THIS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ABOUT BUILDING UP SOMETHING SO THAT IT HAS MORE HEART, MORE MEANING, MORE FEELING THAN JUST ONE PERSON'S IDEAS. YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE MOVIES THAT HAVE BEEN AT THE SAME TIME, COCO AND UM, UH, BOOK OF BOOK OF LIFE, TWO MOVIES CAME OUT ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME TIME. COCO HAD MORE RICHNESS, HAD MORE OF THIS FEELING OF, OF OF A BIGNESS TO IT AND NOTHING AGAINST THE BOOK OF LIFE. BUT THAT WAS WRITTEN BY TWO PEOPLE WHO JUST SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR SCREENPLAY. THE OTHER WAS WRITTEN BY A TEAM THAT KEPT BUILDING THEIR LIFE, UH, ELEMENTS [00:50:01] INTO IT AND KEPT ADDING TO AN EXISTING STORY AND MAKING SOMETHING BIGGER. SO THE IDEA, AND I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE, AND WE DO THIS, WHEN WE COME WITH OUR RCAS, THIS IS KIND OF MY IDEA WITH IT, AND WE GO TO THE WORK SESSION AND DON'T FEEL BAD IF YOUR IDEA DOESN'T MAKE IT OUT EXACTLY AS YOU WROTE IT. 'CAUSE IT'S VERY RARE THAT ALL OF US GO, YEP, MAN, YOU NAILED IT. THAT'S PERFECT. NOTHING, NO NOTES. MOVE ON. LET'S GO, LET'S BRING IT, UH, NEXT WEEK AND LET'S SIGN IT INTO LAW. WE TALK ABOUT IT AND WE THINK ABOUT, HEY, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? UH, THIS, OR MAYBE THIS WORD NEEDS TO BE AN, IT'S ABOUT MORE EYES. IT'S ABOUT NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE STAR ON THE TEAM MAKING, BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT WAS MINE. IT'S ABOUT WE AS A COUNCIL CAME UP WITH STUFF. I, I KNOW THAT IN MY FIRST YEAR, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW. I WAS AFRAID TO EVEN BRING IN RCA. I WAS LIKE GOING, I'M GONNA GET, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. BUT I WOULD SAY THINGS WHAT? REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION. NO, IT, IT IS A TEAM. ACTUALLY, THE LITTLE PLUG TOO, IT GOES ON THE BACK AND STUFF. UHHUH. OH YEAH, THERE'S NO, IT'S A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION. SO YOU, IT IS HOW WE GET THE BALL ROLLING. BUT WHAT WAS FUNNY IS I WOULD REALIZE I WOULD SAY THINGS AND LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS LATER, ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'D BE AN RCA FOR SOMETHING. I'D GO, OH, HEY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. SOMEONE THOUGHT THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. I'LL, LET'S RUN WITH IT. LET'S DO SOMETHING MORE. SO THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A COUNCIL. WE NEED TO BE PIXAR. WE NEED TO NOT BE SINGLE-MINDED IN WHAT WE DO. SO A BIG CONCEPT, NO IS HOW THINGS END. YOU WANT TO END SOMETHING? NO. YES. IS HOW THINGS BEGIN. UM, ANOTHER IMPROV STORY I WAS DOING AN IMPROV WITH, WITH A GUY AND, UH, DID SOMETHING AND I SAW A TEAM GOING, UH, HE CAME IN, HE GOES, WE NEED TO GET A DIVORCE. AND I WENT, OH, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS? HE GOES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS. THAT'S FUNNY. AND I GOT A LAUGH, BUT IT WAS LIKE, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TAKE THIS SEAT. I, SO I HAD TO COME WITH A, WELL, YEAH, NOT SINCE WE SOLD THEM, BUT STILL THEY'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. AND NOW IT BECOMES THIS. I DON'T, AND THE AUDIENCE ARE GOING, WHAT IS GOING ON? ? UM, YES, THAT'S HOW THINGS BEGIN. DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN HOW IT ENDS, HOW IT BEGINS. AND NO CAN ALWAYS END THE YES LATER. WE EXHAUST EVERYTHING. BUT, SO I WANT US TO BE THINKING YES AS WE GET THROUGH THIS. SO RULES OF THEM PROBABLY TOLD YOU THERE ARE ALSO RULES OF BUSINESS AND I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN SO MUCH, BUT YES. AND IT'S ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENING. WHEN I WOULD SAY THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME TO ME AND SAY, I NEED THIS VIDEO DONE. OR WHENEVER ANYONE COMES TO ME WITH ANYTHING, WHEN UH, A RESIDENT COMES TO ME WITH SOMETHING, YOU'VE GOTTA REMEMBER THAT ANYTIME ANYONE COMES TO YOU FOR ANYTHING, IT'S BECAUSE THEY FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO TALK TO SOMEBODY AND THEY THOUGHT YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO COULD HELP THEM. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW RIDICULOUS HOW THEY OR HOW SMALL OR HOW BIG THEY FELT. IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO COME TO YOU AND BRING IT UP. AND THAT SHOULD NEVER BE DISCOUNTED BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG STEP. SOMEONE TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE AND SAY, I'VE GOT THIS PROBLEM. ESPECIALLY IN OUR SOCIETY, WE TEND TO TRY TO JUST, WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT OURSELVES. SO ANYTIME ANYONE COMES TO ME WITH A PROBLEM, I'M GONNA SAY YES IN SOME FORM. WHETHER IT'S, IT MAY SOUND LIKE A, LET ME LOOK INTO THAT. THAT'S STILL A YES, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SAY NO, I'M NOT GONNA LOOK INTO THAT. AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY. EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING I DON'T THINK I CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE, LIKE, WHEN 10 75 STARTED GETTING ME INVOLVED IN THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, I KNEW I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THEY, I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I'M YOUR GUY. LET'S GO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO I HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHO DO I NEED TO START TALKING TO? WHO DO I NEED TO REACH OUT AND GET A YES AND FROM? SO SOMETIMES WHAT WE DO, ALWAYS WATCH AND LISTEN. SO 10 75 IS YES. AND ISLANDS. YES. AND ISLANDS . UM, ALWAYS WATCH AND LISTEN. IN THE IMPROV WORLD, PEOPLE SOMETIMES GET IN THEIR HEAD AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO I SAVE THIS SCENE? AND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, THE SCENE IS MOVING PAST THEM. SO I ALWAYS, IN MY [00:55:01] IMPROV WORLD, I TELL PEOPLE, YOU NEED TO BE ON THE STAGE, NOT IN YOUR HEAD, BE ON THE STAGE. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING. SO WHEN EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING IN BUSINESS, DON'T BE IN YOUR HEAD OF HOW DO I SAVE THIS? WHEN THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS AND THINGS GOING ON AROUND YOU, TAKE THAT TIME AND LISTEN. UM, OFTENTIMES WE IN THIS ROOM, A LOT OF JUST VERY, VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. AND THE PROBLEM WE GET TO SOMETIMES IS PEOPLE ARE THE, THE MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON IN THE ROOM MENTALITY. THE MOST IMPORTANT, MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON IN THE ROOM IS THE ONE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU HAVE. TRUST YOURSELF. YOU WERE HIRED FOR A REASON, YOU WON THE SEATS FOR A REASON, YOU WERE HIRED FOR A REASON. TRUST THAT, TRUST THAT YOU HAVE THE SMARTS, THE INTELLIGENCE, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THAT. YOU WERE HIRED TO DO THIS. TRUST IT. BECAUSE EVEN MORE THAN THAT, TRUST YOUR TEAM. THEY WERE HIRED TO BE WITH YOU OR SOMETIMES YOU HIRED THEM TO DO THINGS. IF YOU HIRED SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU DON'T TRUST THEM TO DO IT, YOU MADE A BAD HIRE THAT IS ON YOU. SO TRUST YOURSELF. GO BACK TO A EITHER, YOU KNOW, BUILD THAT PERSON UP TO BE WHAT YOU NEED THEM TO BE OR FIND SOMEONE TO BE THAT PERSON BECAUSE YOU NEED A TEAM YOU CAN TRUST. WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT TEAMS, YOU KNOW, WEST JORDAN, THAT IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND WHEN I THINK THIS STUFF WE'RE ABLE TO GET DONE WITH SUCH SMALL TEAMS THAT IT'S BECAUSE WE HIRED THE RIGHT PERSON TO LEAD AND THEY HIRED THE PEOPLE UNDER THEM TO BUILD A GREAT TEAM. AND THEY ALL JUST TRUST THAT MENTALITY. MAKE THE TEAM THE STAR. IN MY BUSINESS WORLD, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THERE'S ONE PERSON ON THE TEAM WHO'S OBVIOUSLY THE STAR OF THE TEAM. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT EVERYONE LOOKS TO, EVERYONE GOES TO. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT GAME, EVERY SINGLE TIME IN BUSINESS THAT HAS HAPPENED, THAT PERSON GETS PROMOTED AND IS NO LONGER ON THAT TEAM. WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE PEOPLE WHO REMAIN? HOW GOOD IS THAT TEAM NOW? WELL, THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD. THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THEY RELIED ON ONE PERSON ALL THE TIME, AND WITH THAT PERSON GONE, THEY'RE LIKE, UH, AND IT TAKES THEM A WHILE TO BUILD BACK UP. SO MAKE THE TEAM THE STAR WITH QUICK WIS. AND I'VE SEEN IMPROV TROOPS ALL AROUND US WHO HAVE THE ONE GUY OR ONE OR TWO GUYS OR GALS THAT ARE THE STARS. AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE GO TO THE BOX OFFICE AND GO, HEY, IS SO AND SO PLAYING? NO, HE'S NOT PLAYING TONIGHT. ALRIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SEE THE SHOW THEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE FUNNY GUY. OR THAT'S THE FUNNY LADY IN QUICK WIS. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THREE OF THOSE GUYS, THOSE ARE THREE GREAT GUYS. UM, I'VE GOT A DOZEN MORE EQUALLY AS STRONG AS THEM AND THEY CAN INTERCHANGE OUT BECAUSE THEY'LL KNOW, UH, LIKE ANDREW, THE ONE YOU SAW, THE THE RED HAT. HE, HE WAS VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, BIG. BUT IF WE HAVE ANOTHER VERY BIG PERSONALITY, HE WILL MOVE DOWN INTO WHATEVER ROLE IS KIND OF NEEDED. WE NEED SOMEONE WHO IS VERY MUCH THE, THE WORDSMITH OF THINGS. WELL, HE'LL MOVE INTO THAT. WE FIND A ROLE PICK UP AFTER EACH OTHER IN FOOTBALL. I USE THIS ALL THE TIME IN FOOTBALL. THE RUNNING BACK'S GOING THROUGH THE LINE. BOOM, FALL POPS OUT. THE REST OF THE TEAM DOESN'T GO HIM. IT WAS HIM. HE, HE DROPPED IT. UH, THAT THAT'S ON YOU. YOU DROPPED THAT OUT. NO, THEY DIED FOR THAT FALL. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT JUST HAPPENED. THEY ARE GOING TO PICK UP AFTER EACH OTHER. AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, I WANT, AND I WANT THIS WITH OUR COUNCIL, WHATEVER HAPPENS, I WANT US TO NOT POINT FINGERS IF WE CAN HELP IT. AND I WANT US TO ALL JUST JUMP IN, HELP OUT WHEREVER WE CAN BE A CONTRIBUTOR. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A GREAT THING AND I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MANY TIMES WHERE, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY. EVEN SOMEONE GIVING AN IDEA THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK, TALKING ABOUT THAT IDEA FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND STARTING TO SAY THESE OTHER REASON, THAT IDEA IS REALLY TECHNICALLY A NO. YOU START TO REALLY GO ON. BUT IF WE DID THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS IS THE YES THAT COULD COME FROM THIS. SO CONTRIBUTE EVEN IF YOU DON'T THINK WHAT YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING HAS MERIT, ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN TRIGGER SOMEONE ELSE TO THINK IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT'S GOING [01:00:01] ON. DON'T JUST SIT BACK TOO MUCH. DON'T LABEL EACH OTHER. IF I GOT TIME, I THINK I'M GONNA HAVE TIME TO DO THIS. UH, I LIKE THIS LITTLE LABEL EXERCISE. I DO TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU WANT. NO, NO. I NEED YOU. . UH, LABELING, LABELING PEOPLE IS, UH, THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO. AND THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO DEPENDS ON WHAT LABEL YOU ON, DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU DO. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. AND, AND BE OKAY TO FAIL. BE OKAY. WHEN I FINALLY STARTED SETTING THAT, STEPPING UP GOING, HEY, HERE'S MY IDEA. AND YOU WENT, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. NO, NO, NO, NO. ALRIGHT, WELL NOW I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT HOW I PRESENT AN IDEA. AND I START THINKING, WHAT DO I NEED? WHY, WHY DID THAT HAPPEN TO ME? OH, WELL, FOR ME IT WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T TALK TO SOME PEOPLE FIRST TO KIND OF GO, HEY, I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS. WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, I THINK, UH, WHAT YOU GOT IS OKAY, BUT IF YOU DID THIS, THIS, THIS MIGHT BE, OKAY, GREAT. LET ME TALK TO THIS PERSON. WELL, THAT'S OKAY, BUT YEAH, IF YOU DID THIS, THAT OKAY. OKAY. SO NOW I CAN BRING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AND THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN ME SOME IDEAS THAT I KNOW IF I WANT THIS IDEA TO GO FORWARD, I NEED TO ENGAGE MORE. I NEED TO DO THINGS MORE. UM, I'VE LEARNED, UH, GOING BACK TO THE TEAM THING, I CAN'T BE A COUNCIL MEMBER OF ONE TO MY DISTRICT. 'CAUSE IF I AM THE ONE VOICE TO MY DISTRICT AND THE OTHER SIX OF YOU SAY, NO, I'M A HORRIBLE VOICE TO MY DISTRICT. I'M, I'M A, I'M NO VOICE TO MY DISTRICT. I MAY BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I GAVE IT A TRY. IT REALLY WORKS. AND THEY'D GO, YEAH, BOY, THANK YOU. BUT I DIDN'T HELP THEM 'CAUSE I DIDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP THEM. SO BE OKAY TO FAIL AND LEARN FROM IT. THOSE, THOSE ARE ALWAYS, UM, FAILURES AN OPPORTUNITY. OKAY? FAILURE IS SOMETHING TO LEARN FROM. EVERY SINGLE TIME. WE GO BACK TO WHEN WE WERE WALKING, WE DIDN'T GO, HEY, IT'S ABOUT TIME TO WALK. AND THERE WE GO. LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL I AM AT THAT. IT WAS A LOT OF FALLING DOWN. IT'S A LOT OF IT. BUT THAT'S HOW WE LEARNED. ALRIGHT? SAYING YES HELPS YOU FIND YOUR PURPOSE. PURPOSE IS SUCH A STRONG THING THAT YOU NEED IN YOUR LIFE. WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE? I'M GONNA SAY YES TO THINGS AND, AND FIND OUT WHAT MY PURPOSE IS. CREATE A POSITIVE MENTAL, CREATIVE, POSITIVE MENTAL ATTITUDE. SO IMPORTANT AND AT TIMES SO HARD. BUT BEING POSITIVE ABOUT THINGS IS THE WAY YOU CAN BE YES MINDED. BEING POSITIVE AND KEEPING THINGS GOING. EVEN IN THE FACE OF UNCERTAINTY, POSITIVITY. BUILD YOUR CONFIDENCE. IF I'M SAYING YES TO THINGS, I'M BUILDING MY CONFIDENCE. AGAIN, I AM A HUGELY CONFIDENT PERSON AND RARELY DO I THINK I CAN'T DO SOMETHING, WHICH HAS BEEN MY DETRIMENT MANY, MANY TIMES BECAUSE I'LL TRY SOMETHING AND NOT BE GOOD. I AM NOT A GOOD KARAOKE ARTIST, , BUT I'VE LEARNED THAT THERE'S LIKE ONE OR TWO SONGS I CAN KIND OF DO. SO I COULD, I DON'T KNOW IF I BELIEVE THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD. YEAH, WE'LL TRY THAT LATER. UH, OVERCOME ADVERSITY AGAIN. THAT, THAT POSITIVE MENTAL ATTITUDE, BEING ABLE TO FAIL AND BE OKAY WITH IT, WITH YOUR CONFIDENCE. YOU CAN OVERCOME THIS ADVERSITY. YOU CAN DO THINGS YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD DO. YOU OPEN POSSIBILITIES. ONE WAY WE DO THAT, IS THIS A SPECIALIZED TALENT TEAM? OKAY, I CAN DO A LOT. I KNOW I CAN DO A LOT, BUT I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING. SO I HAVE, IN GOING BACK TO THE QUICKBOOKS WORLD, I HAVE PEOPLE ON THERE WHO CAN DO THE THINGS I CAN'T DO. AND WHEN WE'RE ALL TOGETHER, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE ALL DO EVERYTHING. BUT GOING TO, UH, INTO BUSINESS, I'M VERY GOOD AT CERTAIN THINGS IN BUSINESS. THE ACCOUNTING MONEY STUFF I AM HORRIBLE AT. AND I WAS, I WAS TELLING JESSICA, IT'S NOT THAT I GO THROUGH MIDLIFE CRISIS. I'VE NEVER GROWN UP. SO I STILL BUY THINGS LIKE I'M A 10-YEAR-OLD WITH $10 IN A, IN A SEVEN 11. AND THAT'S, THAT HAS DRIVEN AT LEAST TWO WIVES. CRAZY. ONE IS STILL WITH ME. UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS, I KNOW I NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THIS. I NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN HANDLE THE REAL BUSINESS SIDE BECAUSE MY SIDE IS THE CREATIVE SIDE. I CAN DO THIS AND I CAN PUT ON AN AMAZING SHOW. BUT IF I DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN HANDLE THE BOX OFFICE, IF I DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN REALLY HELP ME WITH OTHER ELEMENTS, HAVING A GREAT SHOW WILL NOT MATTER AT ALL. I NEED A TEAM. I CONTRIBUTE AND I CREATE MY LABEL. FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR LABEL IS. SO AS WE GET TO THESE LABELS, I'M GONNA DO THIS A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW, [01:05:02] THIS IS INTERESTING AND I, I DO NEED SIX VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS. AND THIS, THIS IS A VERY FUN ONE. IT, UH, A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE. YOU'LL NEED TO, YOU'LL NEED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S VERY SIMPLE SCENE. BUT I NEED SIX PEOPLE SAID, BRIAN, BOB'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT SAY YES A LOT. I BETTER SAY YES TO THIS AND COME ON UP, . SO SIX PEOPLE, I GOT ONE. ALRIGHT, I GOT TWO, I GOT THREE. I GOT PAUL, THE HE'S COMING UP ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M SITTING HERE WITH FIVE AND SIX. YAY. DURWIN IS COMING UP. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. I'M GOING TO STICK A LABEL TO YOUR FOREHEAD SO YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I WANT EVERYONE TO LOOK AT EVERYONE'S LABEL, NEVER SAY WHAT IT IS. AND IN A MOMENT WHEN WE GET GOING, YOU'RE JUST GONNA TREAT THE PERSON LIKE THE LABEL. NEVER SAY WHAT IT IS, BUT JUST TREAT THEM AS YOU WOULD, WOULD, AS YOU WOULD DO. IF, UH, WE WERE IN A, UH, AND I'M JUST GONNA DO THESE JUST STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE. RANDOM. I'M NOT PICKING ANYONE ON ANY PARTICULAR REASON. SOME OF US HAVE A LOT MORE REALISTIC PAPER OVERHEAD FOR THAT STICKER FOR PRETTY WELL, BUT, UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA TREAT THESE PEOPLE LIKE THE LABEL. IT SAYS, DON'T EVER SAY YOU ARE THIS LEGACY. YOU GUYS ARE FORWARD. YOU GUYS START LAUGHING WHEN I GET MY . FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR LABEL SAYS. NO, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? YOU'LL BE AMAZED. . BUT AGAIN, ABOUT 30 SECONDS. HERE'S THE MAGIC OF THIS. I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO JUST FALL RIGHT INTO WHAT THEIR LABEL SAYS. SO YOU DON'T SAY WHAT IT IS UNTIL I ASK YOU JUST BE THE WAY YOU'RE TREATED, HOWEVER YOU'RE TREATED, BECOME THAT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU HOW WEIRDLY POWERFUL THIS IS. SO THESE, UH, SIX HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN TO COME TO FIND A WAY TO FIX A A PROBLEM. WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE NEEDING TO FIX RIGHT NOW? THE WATER IS FLOODING ACROSS THE STREET, WATER IS FLOODING ACROSS THE STREET, WATER IS FLOODING ACROSS THE STREET. SO YOU'VE ALL LOOKED AT EACH OTHER. YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYONE ELSE'S THING IS. OKAY? THE SIX OF YOU HAVE JUST BEEN BROUGHT IN. AND WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO IS I NEED YOU TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF THE WATER WITH JUST BEING YOURSELF. SO BEGIN, WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO? ? I DON'T KNOW. THIS GUY SEEMS TO, SEEMS TO ALWAYS HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S, HE'S THE GUY THAT GETS IT DONE. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THAT HE'S IN CHARGE. YEAH. SO I DON'T ALRIGHT THEN, BUT COME UP WITH AN IDEA. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAY. , YOU TOTALLY, WELL, WE CAN IGNORE YOU. WHAT? HE SAID. YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS WHAT TO DO? AND YOU JUST DO IT? GET SOME ZACH? YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WARREN'S THE GUY AND AND POLICY GUY GETS DONE. REALLY? I MEAN, I, WE'RE USUALLY LOOKING FOR YOU TO GENERATE SOME, SOME LEADS. YOU SHOULD TALK, ALAN, WE'VE TOLD YOU TO GO GET SOME WORK AND, AND YOU'RE INEXPERIENCED THAT, UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO. IF I HAVE MORE , THEN I'D HAVE, I'D ASK PAUL. OKAY. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. WELL, YOU GIMME SOME IDEAS. DO THOUGH, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, BUT I HAVE EVERY, BUT YOU HAVE SUCH GREAT IDEAS. I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'LL GET, YOU HAVE GREAT IDEAS. SO I REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE. I AGREE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT. DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST DO IT BASED OFF OF, TO BASED OFF THE PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WE SEEM TO HAVE. WE'RE GOING OFF OF ZACH'S IDEAS AND ZACH IS SAYING TO TRUST YOU TO GET IT DONE. SO PAUL, LET'S GET IT DONE. WATCH ME. I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS WITH YOUR GOOD IDEAS. ALRIGHT. YOU'RE IN LUNCH THOUGH, RIGHT? ? YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL STOP RIGHT HERE. ALRIGHT. SO REAL QUICK. NICELY DONE. . THE FUNNY THING IS, THIS IS A, A SILLY LITTLE THING, BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. WHAT WAS YOUR ROLE? WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR THING SAYS? I, I I WAS THE LEADER OF SOME SORT. SO GOOD. YOU'RE THE BOSS. I'M THE BOSS. YEAH. WHATEVER. WHAT DID YOU THINK YOU WERE IN THIS? JUST WANTED, JUST GOT EVERYTHING DONE. [01:10:01] YOU'RE THE WORKHORSE. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DID THEY THINK? WHAT DID YOU THINK? YOU WERE THE ROOKIE. YOU WHAT ABOUT YOU? I WASN'T JUST, YOU'RE THE SLACKER. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ON THE TEAMED D EXPERT. YOU'RE THE IDEA MACHINE. OH, WHAT WERE YOU, I HAVE NO IDEA. YOU PLAYED IT PERFECTLY. YOU WERE THE BROWN. YOU GUYS CAN TAKE THESE OFF, BUT, UH, THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT WAS, I THOUGHT HE READ IT NATURAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE. UH, OFTENTIMES WHEN I DO THIS, LIKE, OKAY, AND AGAIN, EVERYONE TURNS TO THE BOSS AND WHAT WE DO 'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY KNOW THEY'RE, THAT'S THE BOSS. WHAT DO WE DO? THE BOSS ALMOST ALWAYS GOES TO THE IDEA PERSON WHO DO WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND, AND ANYTIME THE SLACKER STARTS TO TALK, THEY GO LIKE, EVENTUALLY THE SLACKER NO LONGER TALKS BECAUSE NO ONE IS LISTENING TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO ME. YEAH. , THE WORKHORSE IS ALWAYS TOLD. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S THE IDEA. YOU NEED TO DO IT. UH, OKAY, I NEED TO DO IT. THE LABELS WE PUT ON PEOPLE MATTER. UM, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, IT IS RESTART 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES UP, BUT I'M GONNA WRAP THIS UP. UM, SO I, I'VE DONE THIS A HUNDRED TIMES FOR COMPANIES AND IT'S SO FUNNY, IT NEVER FAILS. PEOPLE INSTANTLY JUST START CLICKING IN. UH, ZACH NOT BEING THE IDEA PERSON, I THINK WAS THE LONGEST I'VE EVER HAD SOMEONE TRY TO GO AWAY FROM WHAT EVERYONE IS TELLING HIM. YOU ARE THING. I NOTICED, UH, ALAN WAS SITTING AT ON THE TABLE BY THE END. YEAH, BY THE END, BECAUSE THEY JUST GIVE TO LINE AND HE, I'M, I'M NOT EVEN THIS CONVERSATION. YEAH, YEAH. BECOME WHAT YOU ARE. SO I WAS WITH AN IMPROV SHOW ONE TIME AND I HAD A, AN ACTOR FROM ANOTHER TROOP COMING, AND I VALUE THIS ACTOR A LOT. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET HIM TO DO A SHOW WITH US FOR YEARS, AND I WAS SO EXCITED HE WAS GONNA DO A SHOW WITH US. I WAS A LITTLE WORRIED BECAUSE I HAD TWO OF OUR NEWER, WEAKER ACTORS DOING THE SHOW WITH HIM. BUT I THOUGHT, WE'LL COVER IT JUST FINE. THAT'S GREAT. SO, UH, THIS, THIS ACTOR COMES IN, HIS NAME'S RUSTY, AND HE'S LIKE, OH, HEY, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO DO A SHOW WITH YOU, MAN. I GO, OH, I CAN'T, YOU, YOU BLOW MY MIND EVERY TIME ON STAGE, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU DO WITH MY GUYS. ONE OF THOSE WEAK ACTORS COMES IN THE DOOR AND HE MISS AND HE INSTANTLY GOES, HEY, ARE YOU DOING THE SHOW WITH ME TONIGHT? AND HE GOES, YEAH. AND HE GOES, OH, GREAT. I CAN'T WAIT. YOU ARE, YOU ARE AMAZING. YOU ARE AWESOME. I CAN'T WAIT TO DO WHO'S SCENE WITH YOU. AND I'M IN MY MIND, I'M LITERALLY GOING, NO, NO, NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, AND, UM, THAT PERSON'S LIKE, OH, WELL I'M, I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND HE GOES, NO MAN, YOU ARE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GREAT. I'VE SEEN YOU ON STAGE. YOU DO A GREAT JOB. AND AGAIN, IN MY MIND I'M GOING, OH, PLEASE, NO, DON'T THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD REPRESENTATION. WAIT TILL THE OTHER GUY'S GONNA, THE OTHER WEAKER ACTOR COMES IN WITHIN 30 SECONDS OF THAT THIS RUSTY GOES, ARE YOU PLAYING TOO? HE GOES, OH MY GOSH, BOB, YOU ROLLED OUT THE A TEAM FOR ME. AH, MAN, I'M HONORED THAT YOU, YOU'VE GOT YOUR BEST GUYS DOING SHOWS WITH ME. AND I'M JUST LIKE, WELL, NO, THESE ARE NOT MY BEST GUYS. UH, I'M NOW MORTIFIED THAT HE'S GONNA THINK THIS IS OUR TOP TALENT. SPOILER NERD, YOU KNOW, WHO HAD THESE BEST SHOWS OF THEIR LIFE? , THOSE TWO GUYS ROCKED IT AMAZINGLY. WHY? BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID, YOU ARE THE BEST PLAYER ON OUR TEAM. IT PUT A MINDSET, IT PUT THAT, YES, I AM CONFIDENT I CAN BE POSITIVE ABOUT THINGS. I'M GONNA CONTRIBUTE. I'M GONNA DO ALL OF THESE THINGS. I TALKED ABOUT, I TALKED THIS CLASS IN FRONT OF, UM, A BIG GROUP OF TEACHERS THAT TEACH INSIDE THE PRISONS. AND I TALKED ABOUT HOW DO YOU LABEL, HOW DO YOU LABEL YOUR STUDENTS? I SAID, I SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER, BUT HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME HOMEWORK, WHETHER YOU DO IT OR NOT, I DON'T CARE FOR THE NEXT MONTH. TREAT EVERY STUDENT AS IF THEY ARE YOUR BEST STUDENT. THAT THEY ARE THERE TO GET THE MOST OF THIS TIME AND GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THIS CLASS. AND YOU TREAT THEM LIKE THAT. AND IN YOUR MIND, THAT'S HOW I WANT YOU TO TREAT THEM. AND I FORGOT ABOUT IT. I WENT AWAY. ABOUT SIX WEEKS LATER, I GOT TWO OF THEM REACHED BACK OUT TO ME AND THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THEIR CLASSES. AND THE CLASSES ARE NOW INCREDIBLE. AND EVERYONE IS JUST HUNGRY FOR KNOWLEDGE. THE LABELS WE PUT ON THINGS MATTERS SO MUCH. AND THE LABELS WE GIVE, YOU KNOW, EACH OTHER. WHAT, HOW WE LABEL [01:15:01] THE STAFF THAT WE INTERACT WITH AS A COUNCIL. THE LABELS WE GIVE THEM MATTERS. BECAUSE AS YOU SEE, PEOPLE RISE OR FALL TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY'RE GIVEN. AND THAT INCLUDES OURSELVES. SO I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE, THINK OF THE LEVEL, THE LABEL YOU WANT TO BE. WHAT DO YOU LABEL YOURSELF AS? DO YOU THINK THE OTHERS TREAT YOU WITH THAT LABEL? IF NO, WHY NOT? WHAT CAN YOU DO TO GET THEM TO SEE YOU? THE LAST TIME I DID THIS WAS IN, UM, A CHARTER SCHOOL. ALL SOME OF LIKE THE WORST STUDENTS ARE KIND OF INTO THIS SCHOOL. AND I QUICKLY, I WAS DOING THIS AND I WENT OVER TO THE, UH, TO THE PRINCIPAL REAL QUICK. AND I SAID, HEY, DO YOU HAVE THOSE SHEETS OF LIKE, THE SIGN IN LABELS? SO THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF LABELS. HE GOES, YEAH, KID, GIVE ME THOSE. I'LL REIMBURSE YOU FOR WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT. GIVE AS MANY AS YOU CAN, AS MANY PENS AS YOU CAN. AND I HAD ALL OF THE STUDENTS, THERE WAS ABOUT 200 STUDENTS IN THIS LITTLE THAT I WAS TALKING TO. I SAID, I WANT YOU ALL TO WRITE WHATEVER LABEL YOU WANT EVERYONE IN THIS BUILDING TO SEE YOU AS. AND I SAID, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU'RE GONNA WRITE JOKE THINGS, THAT'S FINE. I GET IT. BUT I WANT, IF THOSE OF YOU THAT REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, I WANT YOU TO WRITE THE LABEL THAT, THAT YOU WANT THE WORLD TO SEE YOU AS AND PUT IT ON. AND PRINCIPAL CALLED BY THE END OF THE DAY AND TALKED ABOUT THIS HUGE DIFFERENCE IT SUDDENLY MADE IN THE HALLS AND STUFF. 'CAUSE PEOPLE WERE NOT, I I, AND I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE TREAT THEM LIKE THE LABEL, THEY WANT TO BE TREATED AS, AND HE SAID, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN SO JUST, UM, ISOLATED AND CLOSED OFF, PUT SOMETHING ON THERE AND PEOPLE WOULD GO, OH, UH, TREATED 'EM THE WAY THEY WANT TO BE SEEN MADE THIS HUGE DIFFERENCE. SO LABELS SO IMPORTANT. WHAT IS YOUR LABEL? SO THE GOLDEN RULE, UH, I'M GONNA, REAL QUICKLY AS I WRAP THIS UP, I THINK YOU'RE COUPLE THIS. HERE'S ONE THING, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS MORE AT SOME POINT, OR I'M GONNA GIVE YOU GUYS AT LEAST THE, THE THING I'M WORKING ON A BUNCH OF NEW, UH, LITTLE BOOKS AND CLASSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THE GOLDEN RULE IS WHAT ORDER OF THEM TOOL, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT IS THREE OTHERS? YOU WANT TO BE TREATED? HEY, TREAT AS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. HERE'S WHERE I NEED US TO START. START FLIPPING THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S FINE, THAT'S GREAT. BUT IF YOU'RE TREATING EVERYONE, IF I TREAT ALL OF YOU THE WAY I WANT TO BE TREATED, HOW MANY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS ROOM DO YOU THINK I'M REALLY REACHING? VERY SMALL. VERY SMALL. BECAUSE I LIKE TO BE TREATED CERTAIN WAY. I AM, I'M A PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO MY PERSONALITY. AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, I NEED YOU. I JUST WANT LITTLE FACTS. I WANT THE BOTTOM LINE GIVEN TO ME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN I'LL ASK YOU QUESTIONS. I DON'T WANT YOU TO START TELLING ME A BUNCH OF THINGS I MAY OR MAY NOT WANNA KNOW. AND THAT IS ME. MY WIFE IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. HOW WE COMMUNICATE. I HAVE NO IDEA. . THAT'S BECAUSE I HAD TO STOP. MY WIFE IS A PERSON WHO WILL GO, HEY, SO TODAY AT WORK. UM, SO YEAH, UH, NO. UM, I WAS TALKING TO, TALKING TO JESSICA. 'CAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE IN THE HALL. NO, WE WERE, UH, SO WE WERE, WE WERE GOING TO THE, AND I'M JUST LIKE GOING, I DON'T CARE. WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? . BUT SHE, THOSE FACTS MATTER TO HER TO GET EVERY PART OF THE STORY RIGHT. BUT TO ME, I'M LIKE, WHAT DID YOU SAY? AND THEN WE WERE TALKING AND OH, AND, AND, UH, AND HAROLD CAME BY. AND, AND SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT TO HIM FOR A LITTLE. I WAS LIKE, JUST GET TO . I HAVE TO NOT DO THAT. MY WIFE ALSO CAN'T GET TO THE WHAT ELSE HAPPENED? OH, I TOLD YOU THE IMPORTANT THING. I SAID THIS, TREAT OTHERS THE WAY THEY WANNA BE TREATED. SO I'M GONNA SEND AROUND A THING, UH, DOWN THE LINE TO EVERYBODY ONCE I GET IT COMPLETED OUT TO SHOW YOU HOW, WHAT THAT MEANS. BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. AND I THINK IN THE WAY WE DEAL WITH RESIDENTS, I'VE HAD TO TAKE THAT OFF. I'VE HAD TO REALLY START MAKING SURE I'M TREATING THEM THE WAY THEY WANT TO BE TREATED. THIS IS HOW CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPLODES. IF CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS ABOUT TREATING PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANNA BE TREATED, 75% OF YOUR CUSTOMER. 'CAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT. ALL RIGHT. UM, GUYS, I JUST WANNA THANK PEOPLE. JUST GO AHEAD AND WHATEVER THE END OF IT WAS, GET THE IDEA. I WANT THIS TO BE A POSITIVE COUNSEL. I WANT US TO ALL TREAT EACH OTHER AND WITH THIS LABEL OF BEST COUNSEL MEMBER, EVERYONE ON OUR STAFF IS THE BEST OF THE BEST THEY ARE. SO THAT ONE'S EASY. WE HAVE TO WORK WHEN WE MORE TO BECOME THE LEAD ONE PUTTING ON OURSELVES. BUT LET'S DO THAT. LET'S THINK, YES. HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THIS DONE WHEN SOMEONE COMES WITH AN IDEA? LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET TO A YES, THAT WORKS. BECAUSE THAT'S [01:20:01] HOW WE'RE GONNA BECOME BEST. JORDAN, I JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NOW [Legislative Issues - Adam Gardiner] WE'RE GOING TO GET LEFT. LEGISLATIVE ISSUES. JOE, YOU DID NOT. I'M SORRY. IN MY MIND, I THOUGHT I HAD UNTIL THE BOTTOM HOURS . I NO, THIS IS GREAT. UH, LUCKILY, UH, GORDON AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE HAD GONE OVER A LOT OF THE REALLY SPECIFIC LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THAT I THINK ARE GONNA COME UP. WE MIGHT HAVE WENT ABOUT THOSE IN DEPTH FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AT THE, UM, SESSION. SO I THINK WE'RE FAIRLY COVERED ON SOME OF THE BIGGER ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP. ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO FOCUS ON, UM, DAVID SENT AROUND, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, IVORY HOMES IS SHOPPING UP ON THE HILL. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY FOUND A SPONSOR YET, UM, ON INFRASTRUCTURE. DO YOU WANT TO TALK A SECOND ABOUT THAT? WHAT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BILL DOES? THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO STANDARDIZE EVERYTHING ACROSS, REALLY ACROSS THE STATE. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY THAT EVERY, BASICALLY, EVERY CITY HAS TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME STANDARD. IF A, THEY HAVE A CONSULTANT WHO SAYS THIS IS IF THEY HAVE A CONSULTANT, THEY SAYING THEY WANT TO, TO THEIR STANDARD. IS THAT WHAT EXACTLY? IF THEIR CONSULTANT SAYS THIS WORKS, THEN WE BASICALLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SAY, HERE'S EXACTLY WHY IT CAN'T BE. AND IF YOU DISAGREE, IT CAN GO TO IT IS KIND OF THE OMBUDSMAN SCENARIO WHERE IF THE OMBUDSMAN OR THIS THIRD PARTY PERSON SAYS THE DEVELOPER'S CONSULTANT WE THINK IS RIGHT, YOU CAN STILL SAY NO, BUT THEN YOU'RE OPEN LEGAL CHALLENGE AND PAYING ALL THE LEGAL FEES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UH, IF THE CONSULTANT SAYS THAT THE ROAD BASE SHOULD BE THREE INCHES, WE, OUR STANDARD IS FOUR, UH, WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE THREE, UNLESS WE'RE, THEN WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT. SO, AND THAT'S THE ISSUE, IS IT JUST BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE TAXPAYER LEADER. WELL, AND STANDARDS IS ONE SIZE FITS ALL, EITHER BECAUSE EVERY CITY HAS DIFFERENT SOILS. EVERY CITY IS D THAT'S, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR SIDEWALKS, FOR GUTTER. THEY WANT EVERYTHING TO BE WHAT THEY'RE CONSULTANT. SO IT'S LIKE FOUR INCHES OF ASPHALT. THEY'D RATHER HAVE TWO AND A HALF, THREE INCHES, AND WE REQUIRE FOUR. WE'RE KIND OF THE POSTER CHILD, I THINK FOR WHY THIS IS. WELL, AND ONE, ONE EXAMPLE THERE, THERE ARE A MILLION EXAMPLES OF THIS, BUT, UH, I WAS WORKING ON A PROJECT WITH UTA, UH, DOWN IN RIVERTON HERRIMAN, UM, WHERE THEY WANTED A BUS ROUTE. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS ON A, ON A POTENTIAL NEW BUS ROUTE THAT GOES THROUGH THOSE TWO CITIES AND KIND OF MAKES A LOOP TO TRACKS, UH, OR THE TRAIN. AND, UH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO RUN RIGHT THROUGH MOUNTAIN VIEW VILLAGE, THE BUS, WHICH MAKES SENSE. THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE GETTING OFF. AND UTA CAME BACK AND SAID, WE CAN'T PUT OUR BUS THROUGH HERE. THEY SAID, OH, IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH. AND THEY SAID, NO, IT'S ONLY LIKE A TWO AND A HALF INCH ROAD. LIKE, WE CAN'T OUR, WE'LL RIP UP THIS, THIS STREET OVER TIME. AND, UH, AND SO THE CITY, IT WASN'T THEIRS. THEY, THE DEVELOPER OWNS THAT STREET AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T CARE. NOW THE DEVELOPER'S TRYING TO GIVE THAT STREET TO THE CITY, THE CITY. AND THE CITY'S LIKE, IF WE TAKE IT, WE NOW HAVE TO RIP THE ENTIRE STREET OUT AND THEN DO FOUR. LIKE, WE'RE SEEING THE, THE PROBLEMS ARE BEING SEEN IN REAL TIME. UM, THE, THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS CONVINCING THE LEGISLATURE WHO IS RUN BY DEVELOPERS, UH, IN LEADERSHIP, UM, TO SEE THAT, HEY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VALID POINT. UM, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, UH, WHERE I HAVE, UM, NOT REALLY SEEN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE PRIORITIES. THEY'RE NOT REALLY ALIGNED. UM, AND IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR AS WE ARE GOING UP AND THEY MEET BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION LEADERSHIP MEETS AND THEY DECIDE WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE. THEY ARE NOT REALLY MESHING, IN MY OPINION. UH, WE HAD, I SIT ON A COUNCIL, GO AHEAD. IS THAT A GOOD THING? I, I MEAN, I, I KIND OF LIKE IT , UH, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN THEY'RE ALIGNED, UH, SOMEONE, SOMEONE GETS PUNISHED AND, UH, IF THEY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT, YOU SEEM TO BE OKAY. BUT SOMETIMES THAT MAKES FOR MESS YOUR LEGISLATION JUST SO THEY CAN AGREE ON SOMETHING. THEY LET A LOT OF, UH, TERRIBLE THINGS GET THROWN ONTO A BILL. SO IT HAS, ITS, UH, POSITIVE INNATE. THE SENATE JUST CAME OUT WITH THEIR PRIORITIES AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY VAGUE. UH, I SIT ON A, A COUNCIL CALLED THE UTAH BUSINESS COALITION, UH, ON THAT COALITION WE MEET WITH, IT'S, IT'S MADE UP OF MOSTLY [01:25:01] ASSOCIATIONS IN BUSINESSES. AND WE MEET INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE SPEAKER AND WITH THE PRESIDENT. WE USUALLY MEET WITH THE GOVERNOR EVERY YEAR. AND HE HAS REFUSED ALL MEETINGS. UM, HIS SCHEDULE'S TWOFOLD. AND SO HE'S, HE'S KIND OF CANCELING A LOT OF THE MEETINGS. HE'S GOING TO THE OLYMPICS DURING THE SESSION, UM, THAT MIGHT BE. AND SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. UM, . SO ANYWAY, SO WE MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND HE SAID, HERE ARE MY TOP PRIORITIES. THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC. UM, AND THE SENATE PRESIDENT DID NOT. HE WAS LIKE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE UTAH ECONOMICALLY FRIENDLY AND WE'RE GONNA BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY. WE'RE GONNA KEEP TAXES LOW, NOT A LOT OF SPECIFICS. AND SO WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT THEIR SPECIFICS, HERE'S WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH. LOWER TAXES, SUPPORTING FAMILIES, WORKERS AND SMALL BUSINESS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOME OWNERSHIP, WATER FOR THE FUTURE, POWERING THE NEXT GENERATION DANCING, ENERGY, TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION, UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION. WE DON'T INTERPRET, WE UPHOLD PROTECTING FREEDOM IN A DATA CONNECTED WORLD. UTAH SOLUTIONS FOR A GLOBAL IMPACT. ELECTION INTEGRITY, SECURING THE FOUNDATIONS OF DEMOCRACY, LEARNING WITH PURPOSE AND PRINCIPLES, PREPARING STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS. THERE WAS NO EXPLANATION UNDER ANY OF THOSE. UM, AND SO WE AS KIND OF LOBBYISTS, WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE SENATE IS TRYING TO DO, BUT USUALLY WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE OUT OF THIS. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. IT'S VERY CLEAR THIS SESSION IS BEING LED BY THE HOUSE. THE SPEAKER IS RUNNING THE SHOW HERE, AND THE SENATE IS KIND OF REACTING AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THEIR PRIORITIES INTO THAT. I THINK IT'S STRATEGIC ON THE SENATE SIDE. THEY'RE SEEING THE HOUSE BE MORE AGGRESSIVE. AND THE SENATE'S PHILOSOPHY RIGHT NOW IS, LET'S JUST CHILL. LET'S, LET'S HOLD ON. LET'S SEE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. UM, THE HOUSE MUCH MORE ROBUST. WE TALKED ABOUT THE GAS TAX. UM, JUST WANNA FINISH UP IN TALKING ABOUT SOME RAW NUMBERS. UH, THE GAS TAX TO THE TRANSPORTATION FUND MEANS ABOUT 700 MILLION BUCKS. WEST JORDAN CITY'S PORTION OF THAT ON THE C ROAD FUNDS IS ABOUT 8 MILLION. IT'S FOUR $4 MILLION, UH, TO THE CITY OF WEST JORDAN. THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP, THE HOUSE LEADERSHIP HAS TOLD CITIES YOU WILL BE MADE WHOLE. I DON'T, WE HAVE ENCOURAGED THE CITIES ARE GETTING ATTACKED. CRAZED, UM, IN THE, UH, MAYOR CAME TO THE, UH, THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE FUNDRAISERS. UM, ON THE GOVERNOR'S SIDE, THEY'RE ALL ATTACKING CITIES. UM, REALLY, I THINK THEY'RE ATTACKING TWO OR THREE CITIES AND PUNISHING THE WHOLE STATE. THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION ALONE. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. SALT LAKE ON TRANSPORTATION. YES, THEY'RE VERY FRUSTRATED WITH SALT LAKE. UM, THEY DON'T LIKE THE GREEN LOOP. THEY DON'T LIKE GETTING RID OF PARKING SPACES. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A PARKING STRUCTURE PERMITTED IN THAT CITY. THEY'RE VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT. THEY DON'T LIKE THE EXTRA BIKE AND BUS LANES, UH, THAT ARE TAKING OUT TRAFFIC. UM, SO YES, THEY'RE GETTING PUNISHED ON THE BUILDING SIDE OF THINGS. THERE ARE SOME MORE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RURAL COMMUNITIES ON THE WASATCH FRONT. UM, SO THEY'RE NOT, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE IN SALT LAKE COUNTY AT ALL. I THINK THEY'RE UP NORTH. UH, AND, UH, THEY'RE UP NORTH. AND, AND THE SPEAKER AS A, UH, THE SPEAKER WAS A DEVELOPER. HE OWNED CASTLE CREEK HOMES. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. HE NO LONGER OWNS THAT. HE GAVE THAT AWAY TO HIS BUSINESS PARTNERS. BUT HE STILL RETAINS A LOT OF THE APARTMENTS, UH, THAT CASTLE CREEK DOES. THAT'S, HE STILL HAS OWNERSHIP IN THAT. STILL VERY MUCH AN ACTIVE BUSINESSMAN. AND HE'S A VERY GOOD BUSINESSMAN. UM, PRESIDENT ADAMS, UH, ONE OF THE, HE BUILT THE SMITHS UP ON, UH, ON 78 AND 5,600. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, HE SPECIALIZES IN GROCERY STORES FOR KROGER AND FINDING LOCATIONS, BUILDING THAT. AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES UP NORTH THAT DON'T WANT GROCERY STORES, THAT DON'T WANT APARTMENTS, THAT DON'T WANT, THAT, DON'T WANT THAT DON'T, NO GROCERY STORE. THEY DON'T WANT GROCERY STORES ON THEIR MAIN DRAG OF THEIR CITY. THEY DO NOT WANT A GROCERY STORE THERE. THEY DO NOT WANT HIGH DENSITY OFF THE FREEWAY. THEY DO NOT, THEY DON'T WANT DENSITY AT ALL. THEY DON'T WANT DENSITY AT ALL. YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ACRE MINIMUM THERE ON THE WASATCH FRONT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION. AND THE ONLY WAY, AND WE GET THIS ALL THE TIME FROM DEVELOPERS NOW, WHAT WAS THAT? THE SENATE WANTED TO FOLLOW. THE, WHICH, HERE'S THE OTHER THING. AND THEY'LL, AND THEY'LL TELL YOU THIS, AND I, THIS IS A GOOD SEGUE, . UM, WE [01:30:01] ARE POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS OF THE STATE. I'M AWARE STATE. THE STATE CONTROLS US, AND THEY MAKES ME AWARE OF THAT. THEY DO LET US KNOW THAT A LOT. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WE WERE IN A MEETING WITH, UH, WITH SPEAKER SCHULTZ, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST, UH, MY FIRST SESSION 12 YEARS AGO, FEDERALISM WAS MY BIGGEST ISSUE. UM, AND THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER TWO WHO SAID, BUT HE SAID, FEDERALISM IS STILL THE BIGGEST ISSUE. AND THEN SOMEONE ASKED HIM ABOUT PROPERTY TAX, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX IS A LOCAL ISSUE AND IT NEEDS TO BE LOCAL, BUT WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT IT 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE UPSET. SO WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING. AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S WHAT THE FEDS SAY ABOUT THE STATE ALL THE TIME IS THIS SHOULD BE A STATE ISSUE. BUT WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT IT AND OUR CONSTITUENTS WANNA KNOW. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT OUT IN STATES. UM, IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. THEY'RE NOT LINKING THAT THOUGH. UM, SO THEY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ON, UH, PROPERTY TAX. THERE IS A GRAPH. IF YOU GO TO HOUSE DOT UTAH LEDGE.COM, UM, THEY GO THROUGH THEIR PRIORITIES. UN UNDER HERE IT SAYS THE COST OF LIVING REIGNING IN PROPERTY TAX UTAHNS ARE FEELING THE PINCH OF INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE A, HAVE APPROVED HIGH PROPERTY TAX INCREASES. UM, I WOULD DISAGREE. UH, IN, IN OUR CITY, I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB ABOUT KEEPING PROPERTY TAXES LOW, UM, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES. UTAHNS DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD WHEN DECISIONS, MEANING THE LEGISLATURE GETS TO CONTROL THAT PROCESS. UM, AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE SHIFTING, UH, UH, PROPERTY TAX BURDEN SHIFTING TO HOMEOWNERS. UM, SO BUSINESSES USED TO PAY, UH, 55% OF PROPERTY TAXES. UH, NOW THEY'RE PAYING 45. UH, THAT NUMBER IS KIND OF SWITCHED. AND SO HOMEOWNERS ARE PAYING 55% OF, OF ALL PROPERTY TAX. THEY WANT TO REVERSE THAT. UM, WOULDN'T THAT JUST RAISE PRICES? RIGHT? SO BUSINESSES ARE VERY, BUSINESSES ARE VERY RAISED MY TAXES AND THEY STILL PAY FOR IT. YES, THAT IS ACCURATE. UH, I DON'T THINK THE LEGISLATURE CARES. IT NEED, NEED TO SHOW WORRIED ABOUTING, IT'S WORRIED ABOUT WHO'S CHARGING IT. THEY NEED TO SHOW THAT WE'VE SAVED YOU ON THE STUFF WE CAN CONTROL. WE'VE SAVED YOU MONEY. UM, IT'S LIKE TARIFFS, YOU KNOW? YEAH, TARIFFS ARE GOOD. UH, IT'S, IT'S A LAW. WE'RE SEEING THAT, WE'RE SEEING THAT IN THE, IN THE GAS TAX. HE'S PUT THAT AS HIS PRIORITY, UM, ON CHANGING THE GAS TAX. BUT THE CAUCUS HAS NOT VOTED ON THE GAS TAX. YOU SAY CHANGE THE GAS. THAT'S LOWERING IT. SO THEY WANNA LOWER, RIGHT NOW, THE, THE GAS TAX HITS AT ABOUT, UH, 39 CENTS. THEY WANNA LOWER THAT. THE SPEAKER WANTS TO LOWER IT 20 CENTS. BUT IF THAT FUND'S $700 MILLION INTO THE TRANSPORTATION FUND, UH, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A, UM, IS A FEE ON UPSTREAM PRODUCERS THAT ACTUALLY TAKE OIL AND GAS OUT OF THE GROUND. AND, UH, GOING AFTER OIL REFINERIES, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MAKES GAS CHEAPER. CHEAPER, BUT IT, IT, UH, SO I THINK THE PRICE OF GAS WOULD RISE MM-HMM . UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE BECAUSE, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A SUPPLY ISSUE. I JUST THINK THAT THEY WOULD STOP DRILLING, UM, AND STOP REFINING. THEY WOULD GO. SO THEY WOULD STOP DOING IT HERE. UM, THE REASON, THERE'S BEEN AN ARGUMENT BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHY GASES, UH, UH, MORE EXPENSIVE IN UTAH THAN IT ISN'T SURROUNDING STATES. UH, SOME OF THE STATES THAT'S NOT TRUE. WERE TYPICALLY, UH, LESS THAN IDAHO OR OTHER STATES. BUT, UM, IN COLORADO, THEY HAVE PIPELINES THAT GO RIGHT TO THE PERMIAN BASIN IN TEXAS. SO IT'S VERY EASY TO MOVE OIL AND REFINE IT. IN COLORADO, IT'S VERY, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER. UH, IN WYOMING, THEY HAVE LOTS OF PIPELINES AS WELL, AND THEY ARE OVER CAPACITY FOR WHAT THEIR STATE CONSUMES. SO THEY'RE ALWAYS SHIPPING IT OUT. IN UTAH, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. ALL THE OIL AND GAS IS PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND IN THE UN BASIN. IT, WE HAVE TO TRUCK IT SOMEWHERE. SO WE EITHER HAVE TO TRUCK IT TO SALT LAKE, WHICH IS PRETTY RARE. IT'S NOT USUALLY WHAT WE DO, WE TAKE IT UP TO WYOMING WHERE THERE'S A PIPELINE AND CAN SEND IT TO REFINERIES THAT'S EXPENSIVE. UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAIN CHANGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND HE'S JUST SAYING, NO, WE'RE GONNA LOWER IT AND PUT THAT TAX BURDEN ON OIL REFINERIES AND UPSTREAM ADAM GAS, IF, IF IT GOES TO PRODUCERS IS THE POTENTIAL THE PRODUCERS LEAVE THE STATE BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT WILL HAPPEN. A HUNDRED PERCENT WILL HAPPEN. BECAUSE MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE OIL WELLS [01:35:01] HERE ALSO HAVE 'EM IN THE PERMIAN BASIN, AND THEY'LL JUST FOCUS MORE ON TEXAS THAN HERE. IS THERE ANY TALK OF OF, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T THIS YEARS AGO, BUT THE REFINERIES REALLY AREN'T IN THE BEST LOCATION FOR OUR STATE. YEAH. MOVING. YEAH, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, NO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT 'EM AND THEY'VE APPROACHED 'EM. IT'S BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THESE COMPANIES TO MOVE. AND THE ONLY THING I THINK THAT WOULD PUSH THEM TO MOVE IS A $700 MILLION TAX INCREASE, THEN THEY LEAVE. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THING. UH, BUT THEY'VE INVESTED LIKE CRAZY. THE LEGISLATION WOULD BE BETTER TO HELP THEM MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN AND MAKE IT CHEAPER. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GETS CHEAPER FOR US IF THEY MOVE, UM, IF THEY MOVE OUTTA STATE THAN WE TAKE IT IN OUR STATE. AND IMPORTS ARE TAXED, EXPORTS ARE NOT. WE COULD MOVE IT WHERE THE OIL IS, BUT IT COST MORE TO MOVE IT TOO. UM, COST MORE TO MOVE IT. UH, SO ALL, ALL OF THESE ARE FROM HERE TO CHARLIE. IT'S VERY CLEAR THIS IS ON THERE. UH, THE GAS PRICES IS ON THEIR DOCUMENT. UM, BUT THE CAUCUS DID NOT TAKE A VOTE ON IT. THE SPEAKER JUST PUT IT ON IT. YEAH. WELL, DOES THE CAUCUS WANT THEIR BILLS TO GO THROUGH THE, THEY'RE ALL GONNA SAY, YES SIR, VOTE. UM, SO WE'RE WORKING VERY HEAVILY ON A SENATE TO, TO CHANGE THAT. I'VE TALKED TO THE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. UM, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE AN EFFORT TO OPPOSE IT. THE CITIES FEEL ATTACKED, UH, ON EVERY FRONT. THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT MAYBE AN ISSUE. THEY WANNA BE OUT IN FRONT, BUT THEY'LL SUPPORT BY ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WHAT'S YOUR METHODOLOGY OF FIGURING OUT WHERE THE TAXES, UH, ARE GONNA COME FROM? HOW ARE WE GONNA BE MADE? WHOLE THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THE MESSAGING, UH, WITH EVERYBODY. UH, ONE THING THEY DID WAS, UH, THE LAST TWO YEARS, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE LEGISLATURE WENT THROUGH AN EXERCISE WHERE THEY WERE PRETTY UPSET WITH A LOT OF THE CURRICULUM IN THE UNIVERSITIES. AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT DIDN'T HAVE PEOPLE MAJORING IN THEM. UM, SO EVERYONE WAS VERY UPSET. AND I WAS TOO, LIKE, HOW DARE THE LEGISLATURE DECIDE WHAT KIDS CAN BE EDUCATED ON, ET CETERA. UM, AND THEN THEY WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE. IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO FIND OUT, UP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH, THEY CANCELED DOZENS AND DOZENS OF MAJORS THAT HAVE NEVER HAD ANYONE GRADUATE IN THAT. UM, IT WAS REALLY KIND OF A FASCINATING EXERCISE. NO ONE WAS TAKING THESE CLASSES, UH, BUT THEY WERE STILL SUBSIDIZING, UH, THE PROFESSORS AND THE PROGRAMS. AND THE, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD EXERCISE. THEY SAID, UH, YOU, EACH UNIVERSITY HAS TO COME TO US WITH HOW YOU WOULD REPURPOSE, UH, 10% OF YOUR BUDGET. IF WE GAVE YOU A 10% HAIRCUT, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW WOULD YOU REPROGRAM THE MONEY? AND IF THEY CAME BACK WITH LIKE SATISFACTORY ANSWERS, UM, THEY WERE KIND OF REWARDED WITH, OKAY, YOU CAN KEEP THIS MONEY. WEBER STATE UNIVERSITY SAID, NURSING AND ENGINEERING. WE NEED BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. WE WILL CUT HERE AND WE WANNA INVEST MORE IN NURSING AND ENGINEERING LEGISLATURE SAID, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, YOU SHOULD DO THAT. THEY WENT THROUGH THIS BIG EXERCISE. UM, AND I THINK IT WAS, UH, A HEALTHY EXERCISE FOR A BUREAUCRACY TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. EVEN IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE CUTS, THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S EFFECTIVE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT WHEN YOU SPEND MONEY. THEY LIKED THAT EXERCISE SO MUCH THAT THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE HAVE AGREED THAT THIS YEAR THROUGH OUR APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEES, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT EXACT SAME THING WITH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT DIVISION AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE'RE TELLING THEM, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A 5% CUT. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY ON? UM, AND IF YOU COME BACK AND YOU SAY, IF WE DO THIS, THEN WE HAVE TO KILL 5,000 S. UM, WHEN THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, THAT YOU'LL GET PUNISHED FOR THAT. SO DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING A PRETTY SERIOUS LOOK IN WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT CHAIRS. UM, THERE, UH, WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, A LOT OF MEDICAID, UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF MEDICAID CHANGES. A LOT OF RURAL HOSPITAL CHANGES TO THE STATE OF UTAH. THAT MEANS ABOUT A $400 MILLION HAIRCUT, UH, THIS BUDGET SESSION. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A $400 MILLION DEFICIT. WE'RE LOOKING NOW IT'S PROBABLY LIKE 2 50, 300. UM, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET. UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. UM, BUT WE JUST KEEP BEING TOLD THERE IS NO MONEY. UM, USUALLY WHEN THERE'S NO MONEY, THAT MEANS THERE'S NO MONEY EXCEPT FOR THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANNA BOND ADDITIONALLY. BUT WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE ARE. AND, AND WE HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS. UH, [01:40:01] WEST JORDAN HAS BEEN, UH, I WOULD SAY OUTSIZED IN, IN, WE WERE PUNCHING ABOVE OUR WEIGHT UP AT THE LEGISLATURE WITH GETTING SPECIFIC FUNDING BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE DIRECTED TO WEST JORDAN CITY. UM, LAST YEAR, I THINK THERE WERE FOUR CITIES, UH, IN, UH, IN THE BILL OF BILLS THAT ACTUALLY GOT SPECIFIC FUNDING, UM, THAT WE WERE NOT, THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN, I WOULD SAY. UH, AND SO OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY, NOW IT'LL BE THREE YEARS, UM, WHICH IS CRAZY. THREE YEARS, UH, LOBBYING FOR THE CITY IN FEBRUARY. AND SO COMBINED WITH, UH, WITH LINCOLN CHURCH, WHO DOES OUR APPROPRIATION STUFF, AND MYSELF ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO $15 MILLION THAT WE'VE GOT OVER THE LAST, UH, TWO AND A HALF YEARS FOR THE CITY. THAT IS MONEY WE WOULD NOT GET NORMALLY OUTSIDE OF A NORMAL APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND APPLYING, UH, THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS. SO WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. WE WANT TO KEEP THAT. UM, LINCOLN CHURCH, YOU SHOULD KNOW, HE IS, UH, IT'S A VERY, UH, STUPID PROCESS. UH, THE WAY THAT WE DO SOME OF THIS ROAD FUNDING, WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS THERE WILL BE A BILL THAT IS VERY INNOCUOUS THAT HAS, AND WE CALL IT A BOX CAR BILL. IT JUST, IT, IT'LL HAVE A TITLE. IT WON'T HAVE MUCH DETAIL IN IT. THE BILL WILL COME OUT, IT WILL LOOK INNOCUOUS. EVERYONE WILL PASS IT BY. UM, AND THEN THERE IS THE PRESIDENT, THE SPEAKER, UM, CARLOS BRACEIS FROM UDOT, UH, ONE OR TWO OTHERS, MAYBE ANDREW GRUBER. UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, WAYNE HARPER SOMETIMES IS IN THAT ROOM, BUT THEN YOU'LL HAVE, UH, LINCOLN IN THAT ROOM. AND HE'S BEEN IN THAT ROOM SINCE HE WORKED FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES ACCOUNTS. UH, SO HE'S IN THAT ROOM. UH, GREG CURTIS IS IN THAT ROOM, FORMER SPEAKER LOBBYISTS. UH, AND THEY KIND OF DECIDE, THEY, THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE HAVE A LIST OF HERE'S THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANT FUNDED. AND THEY'LL USUALLY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ATTACHED TO THAT BILL. UM, AND THEN IT WILL COME OUT ON THE LAST WEEK OF THE SESSION AND IT'LL HAVE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND THERE WON'T BE A COMMITTEE HEARING ON IT BECAUSE IT'S AT THE END. AND THEY SUSPEND THE RULES. THEY'LL BRING THE BILL UP TO VOTE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE DOING ALL THE FISCAL BILLS. UH, AND WE'RE, UH, FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE BEEN MENTIONED IN THAT BILL SPECIFICALLY TO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR SOME PROJECTS. SO THAT'S LINCOLN. I'M GONNA GIVE HIM ALL THE CREDIT, UH, FOR THAT. AND I TAG TEAM AND HE TELLS ME WHO TO CALL AND WHO TO, UM, WHO TO LOBBY. AND IT'S, SO WE TAG TEAM THAT HE'S IN THE ROOM GETTING, UH, SPECIFIC THINGS PUT IN THAT DOOR. WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN. UM, HOMELESSNESS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE. UM, THEY REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THE JORDAN RIVER TRAIL, UH, CLEANING UP THE JORDAN RIVER TRAIL. IT ONLY TO 5,400, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. UM, ARE WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN OUR SECTION? YES. YES WE DO. YEAH. UM, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO SEE IS IF THE STATE, IF THE STATE PUTS MORE RESOURCES, IT WILL ALLOW MORE RESOURCES TO FUNNEL DOWN FROM THE COUNTY, ASK FOR HELP. UM, I DON'T KNOW. AND I LIVE BY IT. THAT'S GOOD. NEVER NOTICED. THANK YOU, . SO, UH, YOU DID A GOOD JOB. WELL, THAT MEANS WE, AND I THINK THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS MORE ON RAPID CLEANUP TOO, WHICH IS GONNA BE GREAT. OF COURSE. MORE ENFORCEMENT. UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY PRETTY EXTENSIVELY, BUT IF WE DO IT ONLY IN THAT SECTION, JUST LIKE OTHER THINGS, WE JUST MOVE IT. SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL OPERATION RIO GRANDE. EXACTLY WHAT THEY EXACTLY FOCUS ON THAT. WE CALL IT OPERATION LEAF BLOWER. 'CAUSE IT JUST PUSHED IT OUT, UH, TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY. UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY PRETTY HEAVILY, UH, ON, ON FIGURING SOME OF THAT STUFF OUT. PART OF THAT IS GOING TO BE, UH, THEY'RE GOING OUT FOR, THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT FOR BOND, UH, TO BUILD, UH, MORE JAIL BEDS. THEY WANNA BUILD HUNDREDS OF MORE JAIL BEDS. UH, ADAM REPRESENTS OUR CITY WITH THE COUNTY. SO I I, I REPRESENT THE, THE CITY FOR, UH, HOMELESSNESS AND, AND JUST ON THE SIDE KIND OF EXTRA CRIMINAL JUSTICE STUFF. THAT IS A GOOD THING IN, IN MY OPINION, UH, TO BE BUILDING MORE BEDS. THAT'S A SHORT TERM BILL. I THINK IT, I THINK IT WILL BE LONG TERM. YOU CAN'T BE IN JAIL THAT LONG. NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. I, I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU CAN'T BE IN JAIL THAT LONG. THERE'S ALSO OTHER RESOURCES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH OXBOW JAIL. OXBOW IS NOT OPEN. OXBOW IS NOT A CAPACITY. THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING AND THE FUNDING TO DO THAT. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED UP. THEY NEED [01:45:01] MORE MONEY. EVERYBODY NEEDS MORE MONEY. WE WANNA BUILD MORE. RIGHT? WE NEED THAT WAREHOUSE, BOB'S MONEY. UM, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE, I WANT, I WANT US ALL TO BE CAUTIOUS HERE TOO, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. WE DON'T WANNA BE LOUD ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'RE ALSO VERY CONCERNED, UH, THAT IT COULD, THEY COULD NOT PUT A ZAP BOND, A PARKS AND REC BOND, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT TO COMPETE WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE. AND THEY SEE THAT AS , WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME, UH, RECREATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR CITY. UH, AND THAT BONDING COULD, UH, IF WE DON'T BOND FOR IT, WE'RE NERVOUS ABOUT THE TIMELINE. I'M BUILDING A REC CENTER, GETTING THERE. THERE IS DATA THAT SHOWS IF WE DON'T PROVIDE THE RECREATION, THEN WE CREATE MORE NEED FOR THE JAIL BADGE. RIGHT. YOU'RE A, YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. SO YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. WE'RE GIVING THEM THAT . AND THEY, I THINK THEY KNOW THAT. AND THEY KNOW, THEY ALSO KNOW THAT A, A PARKS BOND, A PARKS AND REC BOND WILL ALWAYS PASS IN HIS, LIKE HISTORICALLY IN SALT LAKE COUNTY, IT PASSES WITH 72% EVERY 10 YEARS, EVERY FIVE YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY DO IT. SO THEY KNOW IT'LL PASS. BUT THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE IF RESIDENTS WANT PARKS AND REC, THEN THEY WILL SACRIFICE CRIMINAL JUSTICE. UM, WE'RE FIGURED THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PIECE WITHOUT PUTTING IT ON THE BALLOT. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. AND IF WE DO THAT, IF WE CONVINCE THEM, UH, THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THIS, THEY WILL EXPECT THE CITY TO BACK THEM UP. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND, AND PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE COUNTY. UM, THEY ALSO FEEL LIKE TO UH, PASS A CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOND, THEY NEED TO RAISE ABOUT $2 MILLION, UH, TO DO THE MESSAGING FOR THAT. SO I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT 'EM IN THAT. BUT THEY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THEIR MESSAGING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MAKING THEMSELVES LOOK VERY GOOD. I'VE COMMUNICATED THAT TO THEM. AND I SAID, EVERY TIME ONE OF YOU TALKS ABOUT IT, I WANTED TO SCREAM. 'CAUSE I STILL HAD, I WANTED TO VOTE FOR IT AND I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS VOTING FOR. AND THEY SAID, WE TOTALLY AGREE. UM, WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT MESSAGES. I WAS LIKE, YEAH, , I DIDN'T KNOW EITHER. UM, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA PLAY A BIG PART. UM, LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF AT LENGTH. SO THEY FINALLY CAME OUT WITH SOME NUMBERS TACKLING AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND INSUFFICIENT SUPPLY ACROSS THE STATE. AGING WATER SYSTEMS AND LIMITED SHORTAGE, UH, THREATEN OUR ABILITY TO MEET FUTURE NEEDS. IN 2024 LAWMAKERS PASSED HB TWO 80. HB TWO 80 IS THE BILL WE WENT THROUGH KIND OF IN DEPTH WITH YOU AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY WANNA RAISE, UH, WATER FEES FROM THE STATE LEVEL, UH, 75 CENTS PER 1000 GALLONS. AND THEN IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ANY OF THAT MONEY TO MONEY TO BUILD OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE OUT, UH, OR REPLACE IT, UH, WE HAD TO CHARGE A MINIMUM OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS $1,800 PER RESIDENT PER YEAR, UH, AT LEAST TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THAT MONEY. UH, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM THE CITY SIDE AND A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM THE STATE SIDE. UH, THEY'RE TELLING US THE NUMBERS ARE BY 2060, UTAH WILL NEED $38 BILLION FOR DRINKING WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. $15 BILLION FOR WATER QUALITY UPGRADES, $6 BILLION FOR IRRIGATION, UH, IRRIGATION AND CANAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, BE AWARE OF THAT'S GONNA COME UP AND THEY'RE GONNA TRY THAT FUNDING THIS YEAR. UM, I HAVE TRIED TO RALLY A LOT OF CITIES TO HATE THIS IDEA. UM, I KNOW WE NEED THE MONEY, BUT TO HAVE A STATE FEE OF 75 CENTS PER THOUSAND GALLONS, UH, I THINK JUST ROUGH NUMBERS, WHEN WE WERE TALKING, WE WERE SAYING THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT A 45% PROPERTY TAX INCREASE TO RESIDENTS JUST ON THE STATE SIDE. THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CHARGE ON AVERAGE WATER SEWER, UH, PER HOUSEHOLD. I THINK WE SHOULD FIND THAT DATA, UM, WHATEVER THAT IS. BUT IF WE GET TO, IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT EIGHT, UH, WE HAVE TO CHARGE AT LEAST $1,800 PER RESIDENT ON AVERAGE. UM, ON AVERAGE, IS IT PER RESIDENT OR PER, PER, NO, IT'S, SORRY. IT'S NOT PER RESIDENT. IT'S PER RESIDENT OR IT'S PER RETAIL HOOKUP PER CONNECTION. CONNECTION PER CONNECTION PER UNIT. SO WE GOTTA LOOK AT WHAT THAT, WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, UM, TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR IT. WELL, OUR ERC IS 650 GALLONS DAY AND MULTIPLY THAT BY 365. [01:50:01] HOW MANY UTILITY BILLS DO WE HAVE? OVER 26,000. OKAY. LIKE THAT. IT'S ALMOST DOUBLING THEIR BILL AT $1,800 A YEAR. IT WILL MORE THAN DOUBLE MY BILL. YEAH. AND NOBODY WILL COMPLAIN ONCE 150 A MONTH . SO, UH, ONE THING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, I KNOW I'M OVER TIME HERE. I WANT TO FINISH BY JUST SAYING, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, ADDING LINE ITEMS TO OUR BILL OF SAYING THIS IS A STATE FEE . UM, AND WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN CALL IT THE CASEY SNYDER AND SCOTT SANDAL MEMORIAL FEE. ABSOLUTELY. ON OUR BILL. I THEY MIND. 'CAUSE NONE OF US CAN BOTH. I, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S SOME, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WISDOM IN DOING THAT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE MM-HMM. LIKE BY LINE ITEM. THAT'S NOT US. UM, UH, BUT I WOULD REALLY FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE IF SURROUNDING CITIES, IF A LOT OF CITIES, UH, TOOK THAT SAME APPROACH IF IT PASSES, IF WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ALL S NOT JUST US. YEAH. SO, UM, KEEP THAT IN MIND. I THINK THAT MAY BE A DIRECTION WE WANNA GO. SOME VERSION OF THIS WILL PASS THIS YEAR, IN MY OPINION. WE HAVE TO, UH, DO AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE THIS SEEM SO UGLY THAT THEY HAVE TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO TO CITIES. SO THEY'RE, UH, CO-OPTING KIND OF OUR WATER. THEY WANT TO CO-OPT OUR ZONING AND OUR POLICING. AND SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK OVERTIME. UH, I JUST WANNA SAY TO FINISH OFF ON SOMETHING THAT, THAT BOB WAS TOUCHING ON, ON LIKE COMMITTEES. UH, THE, THE OLD PHRASE OF A CAMEL IS A IS A HORSE BUILT BY COMMITTEE, UM, THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE AND IT'S LUMPY. AND, UM, YOU KIND OF TURN THAT SCRIPT ON ITS HEAD. AND I THINK WE'VE REALLY DONE THAT WITH THE CITY. WHENEVER BILLS COME OUT AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN AWARE OF THEM, YOU HAVE ALL BEEN REALLY GREAT AT CONTACTING ME SAYING WHAT YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE. UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL AND VERY FAST ON GETTING REALLY RELIABLE DATA THAT WE CAN USE WITH LEGISLATORS TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS. THAT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. UH, I SAY THIS, UH, EVERY YEAR, I WANNA REITERATE, I WANT YOU TO USE THE RELATIONSHIPS YOU HAVE AS DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CITY COUNCIL BY TALKING TO LEGISLATORS THAT YOU KNOW, UM, OR ONES THAT YOU DON'T, I DON'T CARE WHO YOU TALK TO OR WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT, IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, AS AN ELECTED, UH, OFFICIAL. THE THING I WANT TO AVOID IS IF YOU CALL, UH, SOMEONE ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND ADVOCATE FOR SOMETHING, AND THEN I COME IN AFTER AND SAY HOW MUCH WE AS A CITY HATES SOMETHING THAT WE, I AM NOT GOING AGAINST YOUR WISHES. I WANT YOU TO HAVE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS YOU WANT. AND THEN I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO FILL ME IN ON WHAT CONVERSATIONS YOU ARE HAVING AND WHAT YOU'RE HEARING BACK. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU JUST FIND OUT BY BEING IN THE HALLS. UH, WHEN YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS, YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT INFORMATION THAT I PROBABLY DUNNO AND I UP WITH THAT. SO AT THE, AT THE RISK OF JUST, UH, REPEATING MYSELF TOO MUCH, I DO NOT WANT TO EVER CONTRADICT YOU. I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU. UM, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT, I WOULD RATHER NOT TALK TO THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TALKED TO. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM HERE. AND TO DO THAT, JUST WE NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING DURING THE SESSION. AND KEVIN, CAN I ADD, AND IF WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING FOR SOMETHING WE KIND OF TAKEN A STAND ON, OR IT'S THE CITY'S POSITION, WE NEED TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT WE'RE THERE JUST AS OUR RESIDENT. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WHICH YOU'RE FREE TO, YOU'RE TOTALLY FREE TO DO. HEY, I'M CALLING AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. OUR CITY IS NOT TAKEN A POSITION ON THIS, BUT MY OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS ARE TOTALLY FINE, TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE. UM, WE DON'T WANNA PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT. I ALSO WANNA ADD, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE JUST PICKING ON CITIES. I THINK CITIES AND LEAS ARE BOTH PRETTY GOOD TARGETS. YES, YES. THERE'S A LOT OF TARGETS OUT THERE. IT, THIS, HERE, IT, IT, IT'S EASY FOR US TO SIT AND SIT AND POINT FINGERS AND SAY THEY'RE PICKING ON US, YADA, YADA, YADA. UM, BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE SEEING A PROBLEM AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. TOTALLY TRUE. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AVENUES THROUGH WHICH THEY CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM AND NOT INACCURATELY TO THEM. WE ARE A TOOL THAT THEY CAN LEVERAGE. AND, AND IT'S NOT WRONG. WE, [01:55:01] WE MAY NOT LIKE IT. WE MAY THINK THAT THERE'S 300 TOOLS IN THIS STATE AND NOT ONE THAT'S GONNA FIT EVERYBODY, BUT, UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE GET A LOT FURTHER WITH HONEY THAN WITH VINEGAR, SO TO SPEAK. AND IF WE GO UP THERE SAYING, STOP PICKING ON OUR CITY, OR NOT PICKING ON CITIES OR NOT BEING MEAN TO US, UM, I DON'T THINK WE GET VERY FAR. BUT IF WE GO UP TO THEM AND SAY, THIS IS HOW THIS, THIS IS GONNA HURT OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE ALSO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THEN WE GIVE UP. WE'VE DONE, UH, YOU'VE THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN MAYOR AND I HAVE BEEN TAKING, UH, LEGISLATORS OUT TO LUNCH FOR THE SESSION AND THEY HAVE WHERE THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING IN WEST PARTY IN WEST GEORGIA THAT STAY COUNT. OH, NEVERMIND. WE, WE EAT JIM'S A LOT . AND, UH, BUT ONE THING THAT'S, UH, A REALLY GOOD THEME, AS WE SAID, UH, MAYORS DONE A GOOD JOB OF SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WEST JORDAN HAS DONE, THE LEGISLATURE HAS ASKED US TO DO. UM, WHEN YOU ARE HEARING THAT CITIES ARE NOT, UH, THAT ARE NOT WORKING FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS, WILL YOU BE IN OUR CORNER? WILL YOU DEFEND US? AND BOTH SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM ARE LIKE, YES, WE KNOW WEST JORDAN IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. LET FOLKS KNOW, UH, TO FINISH THE, THE LEGISLATURE. TO YOUR POINT, UM, SPEAKER SCHULTZ SAID SOMETHING REALLY INTERESTING WHERE HE SAID, WE PUSHED CITIES LIKE CRAZY TO BE MORE DENSE, UM, NOT THE CITIES TO BE MORE DENSE, BUT , UH, UM, WE NEED MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. AND HE SAID, CITIES RESPONDED AND THEY BUILT A TON OF APARTMENTS AND THAT STILL HAS NOT HELPED OUR HOUSING CRISIS. THERE'S STILL NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO AFFORD FIRST TIME HOMES, BUT RENTS HAVE DRAMATICALLY DROPPED. AND HE'S LIKE, SO WE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM, BUT IT WASN'T THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO SWING THE PENSION. SO THEY'RE REALIZING THAT, THAT LIKE THEIR WORDS HAVE MEANING AND CITIES. AND SO WE'VE USED THAT TO SAY, SEE, CITIES ARE LISTENING TO YOU, UM, AND WE CAN ONLY USE THE TOOLS THAT YOU GIVE US OR TELL US WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE. SURE. THAT'S WHY ON THE BUS TOUR, UM, NEXT WEEK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE SHOWING THEM IS TERRAIN. UM, AND HOW THE DEVELOPERS IN THE CITY WORK TOGETHER COME UP WITH LIKE, THE BEST POSSIBLE, UH, SOLUTION FOR CITIES. JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE THAT FIRST BUS TOUR WHERE WE SHOWED THE IVORY SECTION AND CON WAS ON THE SUMMER OFF. YEAH, YEAH. WHICH IS LIKE, SEE ALL THOSE HOMES. OH, ISN'T THAT GREAT? THOSE HOMES ARE GREAT. DO YOU KNOW EACH ONE? THOSE HOMES COST A MILLION DOLLARS. SO YEAH, WE'RE BUILDING HOMES, BUT NOT ALL THE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD. YEAH. AND LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO POINT OUT THE LOVELY SUBDIVISION NEAR KEN NOW THAT THEY LOVE MM-HMM . AND HOMES BENEFITS. THE HOMES. YOU JUST CAN'T BUY 'EM. THE BUS TOUR HAS BEEN GREAT. UM, AND, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T MAKE THE BUS TOUR, SO I'M DOING A SEPARATE TOUR. I'M DRIVING AND JUST WE GET MORE. SO CAN WE HAVE A BUS YOU CAN USE MORE ATTENDING. YEAH, WE ARE GOOD. WE'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE ATTENDING. GOOD. THE LEGISLATIVE TURNOUT'S PROBABLY STILL GONNA BE THE SAME AND LOSE SOME. WE, THE DATES ARE REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO WORK OUT, SO, AND EVERY TIME WE GO, THIS WORKS FOR ALL OF US, LET'S GET IT SCHEDULED. SALT LAKE COMMUNITY COLLEGE HAS THEIR THING, YOU KNOW, SAME DAY WE WERE LIKE, WE'RE NOT MOVING. WE HAD FIVE CANCELS WITH SLICK TO COME ON OUR THING. SO. SO, ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. CUSTOMER, I WANT TO, UM, TACKLE ONE MORE TOPIC REAL QUICK BEFORE WE BREAK. UH, RECENTLY, UM, IN THE BUDGET, YOU APPROVED SOME FUNDING FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS IN THE NEWS. RECENTLY THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT SALT LAKE CITY AND THEIR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THE MANUFACTURER, THE SHARING OF DATA. WE HAD A FEW EMAILS GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT I THINK THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS. I WANT CHIEF ROBERTSON TO GIVE SOME EXPLANATION ABOUT OUR LICENSED PLATE READER PROGRAM, HOW WE INTEGRATE WITH, UH, UO AND OTHERS. AND, UH, JUST BE AVAILABLE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THANKS. UM, FIRST OF ALL, LICENSE PLATE READERS FOR US IS A IMPORTANT TECHNOLOGY THAT GIVES US A LOT MORE, UM, OPTIONS TO SOLVE CRIMES. UH, IF WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, WE'RE SPENDING HOURS AND HOURS LONGER ON SOME OF THE MAJOR CRIMES THAT WE HAVE HAPPENING IN THE CITY. UH, WHAT IT DOES IS IT USES TECHNOLOGY OR INFORMATION, REALLY, IT USES TECHNOLOGY TO ANALYZE INFORMATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, WITHOUT BEING STATE RECORDS. THINGS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY BCI, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS ARE OBVIOUSLY BCI CLEARED. THEY GET BACKGROUND CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION, UM, LICENSE PLATES SPECIFICALLY FOR ALL OF THE DATA FROM A CAMERA, AND ARE ABLE TO ANALYZE THAT INFORMATION SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND HOURS AND HOURS. WE OURSELVES SPECIFICALLY IF WE HAD A LICENSE PLATE INVOLVED IN AN INCIDENT OR EVEN A VEHICLE DESCRIPTION [02:00:01] INVOLVED IN AN INCIDENT, WE CAN SEARCH FOR THAT VEHICLE THAT HELPS US FIND THE VEHICLE MOVING FORWARD. BUT IT ALSO HELPS US IN THE INVESTIGATION FIND OUT WHERE THAT VEHICLE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. UM, SOME OF THE STORIES THAT HAVE COME OUT THAT HAVE CAUSED CONCERN ABOUT IT, WE'RE SPECIFIC TO ONE COMPANY CALLED FLOCK. WE DON'T CONTRACT WITH BLOCK. AND WE DID LOOK AT FLOCK, BUT WE DIDN'T GO WITH THAT COMPANY. FORTUNATELY, THAT WAS EVEN BEFORE THIS. THE STORIES CAME OUT. AND THE CONCERN WITH THAT WAS THE INFLUX BASED CONTRACT. THEY HAD AN AGREEMENT THAT IF YOU DIDN'T REMOVE IT, IF WE DIDN'T CATCH IT, IF IT, IF THE ATTORNEYS DIDN'T SAY, WE DON'T WANT THIS, IT WAS IN THEIR BASE CONTRACT, THAT FEDERAL AGENCIES WOULD HAVE AUTOMATIC ACCESS TO OUR DATA. SO WE'VE BEEN USING LICENSE PLATE READER TECHNOLOGY BY ACCESSING, UM, CAMERAS, DATA FROM CAMERAS FROM OTHER AGENCIES. FOR EXAMPLE, UTA HAS HAD LICENSE PLATE READERS AT THEIR TRACK STATIONS FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAVE ASKED FOR ACCESS TO THAT. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE SOME CASES ALREADY BY OUR ACCESS TO OTHER AGENCIES, CAMERA SYSTEMS. WE JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT AND HAVE OUR ABILITY TO PUT THOSE TECHNOLOGIES IN OUR CITY. WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON REALLY EXITS AND ENTRANCES INTO THE CITY SO THAT IF A CRIME HAPPENS HERE, THAT WE HAVE ABILITY TO SEE THEY'RE LEADING IN A VEHICLE, THAT WE HAVE ABILITY TO SEE THAT VEHICLE WHEN IT CAME IN, WHEN IT LEFT, UM, AND THEN CONTINUE TO TRACK IT. SOME SUCCESS STORIES THAT WE HAVE HAD ARE ON REALLY SOME BIG CASES. UM, BEING ABLE TO, TO LOCATE A LICENSE PLATE, CRACK DOWN SUSPECTS, BUT THEN GO BACK AND BUILD THE PATTERN OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE. EVEN FINDING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. WE FIND A LICENSE PLATE THAT'S HIT EVERY DAY IN ONE ON ONE CAMERA AREA, IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. THEY LIKELY LIVE IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX. , ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? CONCERNS? I CAN ANSWER. WHAT WOULD IT COST TO PUT AD LICENSE PLATE READERS ON THE CITY HOUSE INSTEAD OF JUST USING OTHERS? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST US TO ADD THAT? UM, SO OUR BUDGET, I THINK WE WE'RE BUDGETED ABOUT 40,000 THIS YEAR TO ADD 'EM. SO WE'RE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE NOW. AND THAT GAVE US ABOUT 30 CAMERAS. WE'RE GONNA START WITH THAT. I THINK CAMERAS ADDING LIKE INDIVIDUAL CAMERAS SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR 5,000 OR HAVE TO THAT ONGOING. ONE SECOND. WE DON'T OWN THE CAMERAS. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE LEASING THEM OR IF WE THEM, BUT WITH THE, THE OPTION OF BEING, I BELIEVE WE OWN THE CAMERA. THE CAMERAS COME WITH THE FIRST YEAR OF THE LONG TERM LEASE, BUT THEN IT'S A LONG TERM LEASE. THE COMPANY WE WENT WITH IS CALLED VIGILANT. UM, SO WE OWN THE CAMERA, BUT WE LEASE THE SOFTWARE, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE MANAGEMENT AND THE STORAGE OF THE DATA AND EVERYTHING. AND I BELIEVE THEY REPLACED THE CAMERAS IF THEY WITHIN A SURVEYOR. AND I THINK WE WENT WITH THAT COMPANY PARTIALLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE MOST BANG FOR BUCK. WE GOT THE MOST CAMERAS, UM, THAT STILL HAVE ACCESS TO LIKE THE SYSTEM. AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TIE INTO OUR TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE. WAS THE CONTRACT WITH VIGILANT AND DID IT, DID IT NOT INCLUDE SHARED DATA? WE HAVE. WE CAN, WE HAVE TOOL CONTROL OVER OUR DATA, WHICH TYPICALLY IS OTHER LOCAL AGENCIES WHO SHARE THEIR DATA AND WE KNOW ARE VETTED IN THE RIGHT WAY AND WE'RE MANAGING THE DATA. SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT SAVE YOUR OFFICER'S TIME SINCE IT'S THEN SOME. YEAH. I MEAN, IF, IF WE HAVE A HOMICIDE CASE, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE PRESSURE TO SOLVE THOSE CASES REALLY QUICKLY. NOW WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST IMMEDIATELY IT'S LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED AND HAVE YOU SOLVED IT YET? AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, WHY NOT? SO IT HELPS US WITH THAT. BUT IF WE'RE NOT USING THIS TECHNOLOGY, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST SOMETIMES TRACKING A SUSPECT DOWN, WE TAKE WEEKS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE TRAVELING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR VEHICLE COULD BE, UM, NOT JUST TRACKING IT DOWN, LET ALONE FIGURING OUT WHO'S FAULT IT, BUT JUST IN THE TIME WE'RE SPENDING INVESTIGATING THOSE MANY CASES, IT SAVES US TIME. BUT I'LL ALSO SAY IT BRINGS A WHOLE NEW POOL OF CASES THAT MAYBE WE WOULD NEVER HAVE ANY SUSPECT INFORMATION ON. NOT LIKE LOWER LEVEL CASES, LIKE A, A VEHICLE. THAT VEHICLE GETS STOLEN NOW AND GETS PUT ON NCIC AND ALL OF THE LICENSE PLATES OUT THERE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT VEHICLE. AND IT WILL TELL US EVERY TIME IT HITS IN OTHER CITIES AND IN OUR CITY SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK THOSE DOWN A LOT, A LOT FASTER. IT'S A LOT HARDER TO DRIVE AROUND ANYMORE WITH A SMALL VEHICLE BECAUSE OF PIPE. YEAH, UNLESS THEY DO THAT. BUT ONCE EVEN WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE VEHICLE, IF WE KNOW THE VEHICLE, WE CAN PUT THE IMAGE WITH THE VEHICLE IN THE LICENSE, FIND THE CAR THAT DOESN'T HAVE LIKELY WIPE. THAT. FASCINATING. THANK YOU, KEITH. [02:05:01] SORRY, WHAT? I JUST SAID. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANKS. THANK YOU ALL. HEY, UH, SO, AND I, I APOLOGIZE. MY THING WENT OVER IN MY MIND. WATER BREAKS IN. I SUDDENLY THOUGHT I WAS SUPPOSED TO END AT 10 30, SO I APOLOGIZE VERY MUCH. ING BREAK. YOU'RE OUT. YOU'RE DONE. GOOD, . UM, BUT LET'S, UH, WE'RE [BREAK] GONNA TAKE A BREAK NOW. LET'S, UH, BE READY TO START AT 10 30. SO WE'RE, UH, THE ONLY, THE 15 MINUTES BEHIND THAT I COST EVERYBODY. BUT, UH, LET'S, UH, TAKE A BREAK. BE BACK IN 10 MINUTES. READY TO START? THANK YOU. YES, WE GOT, OKAY. WHY DIDN'T THE SKELETON GO ON THE ROLLERCOASTER? IT DIDN'T HAVE THE DAYS. WE GOT SOME FRIENDS THAT DON'T HAVE IT. STARTS. THAT'S RIGHT. CHECKS. CHECKS. WHAT DO YOU CALL A DOGS WITH NO LEGS? WHAT DO YOU CALL DOG RULES? YEAH. SO THERE'S A, A WELL DRESSED PERSON ON A BICYCLE AND A POORLY DRESSED PERSON ON A BICYCLE. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? ONE'S THE MAN. A TIRE. A TIRE IS THE DIFFERENCE. . ALL RIGHT, WE'RE AT, UH, WE'RE AT TIME. OH, I GOTTA QUIT. OKAY. , ARE YOU READY? PAUL? MORGAN'S PROBABLY GOT SOME DAD JOKES TOO. . YEAH. HE TELLS A LOT ABOUT, THEY SAY WE ATTRACT WHAT WE FEAR. SO I'M REALLY SCARED OF . UM, [Elected Officials - Budget Priorities] WE WANNA, I WISH I'M KICKING MYSELF BECAUSE, UH, WE HAD THIS REALLY GREAT TRAINING FROM BOB THIS MORNING ABOUT NOT THINKING IN ZERO SUM TERMS AND MAKING YES HAPPEN AND GROWING OUR MINDSET. NOW I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THIS AT THE END OF THE RETREAT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU GOTTA PICK THIS OR THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYTHING, THE DECISIONS WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU ARE KIND OF ZERO SUM, BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO ANYTHING WE WANNA TALK ABOUT. BUT WHAT WE WANT IS JUST SOME PRIORITIZATION. IN ORDER TO GET THE BEST WAY TO KNOW WHERE TO PRIORITIZE STAFF TIME, RESOURCES, BUDGETS, WE'RE GONNA ASK, UH, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO FILL OUT SOME, UH, SLIDO POLLS THAT PHRASE IT AS YES, NO, I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE IT AS, UH, IF SOMETHING ISN'T THE TOP PRIORITY, IT'S A NO. BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KNOW WHERE DO WE START WITH OUR EFFORTS, WITH OUR RESOURCES, WITH OUR FUND. AND YOU DON'T WANT ALL BE YES. EVEN THOUGH THAT ALL, YES, I HAVE A HARD TIME KNOWING WHERE WE SHOULD, UH, FOCUS THE CITY. YOU DON'T LIKE, YOU DON'T LIKE . UM, OKAY, SO WITH THAT, UH, DENISE PAUL AND I ARE GOING TO, UM, RUN YOU THROUGH A COUPLE OF SLIDO POLLS. WE MAY PAUSE AFTER A SLIDO POLL AND TALK ABOUT IT AND SAY, OKAY, UM, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU REALLY MEAN BY THIS? WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY BE FRUSTRATED WITH A FEW OF THE SLIDO POLLS AS WELL, BECAUSE THESE POLLS LOSE SOME OF THE NUANCE, RIGHT? WHEN YOU SAY, I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU'RE COMPARING IT WITH THIS OR THAT, YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU'RE ASKING ME TO COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES, OR, YOU DIDN'T QUITE PHRASE IT THE WAY I WANTED TO PHRASE IT. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. SO WE'LL DO A S SLIDE POLL AND THEN WE'LL PAUSE. AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE OF A CASE FOR SOMETHING, IF YOU WANNA SAY, WELL, I VOTED THIS WAY, BUT I REALLY FEEL, HERE'S HOW I FEEL. AND THE POLL DIDN'T REFLECT THAT. WE'RE OPEN TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE HAVE, UM, UP TO AN HOUR AND A HALF. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE TIME, BUT WE CAN TAKE UP TO AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GO THROUGH ONLY ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT POLLS HERE. SO, UH, WE MAY GO QUICK AND BE DONE QUICK OR WE MAY, UH, UH, USE THESE POLLS TO ELICIT A LITTLE MORE CONVERSATION. UH, THESE, AGAIN, THESE WERE FORMULATED FROM YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS, YESTERDAY'S DISCUSSIONS, YESTERDAY'S OPEN MIC. UH, YES. YEAH. YES. SOUNDS, YES, . UH, THE POLL IS JUST FOR THE EIGHT ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO CARBON HEADS, DON'T MANIPULATE THE ANSWERS [02:10:01] IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING YOU LIKE. NO. WE'LL JUST SEE. IF IT'S ABOVE EIGHT, WE'LL KNOW. UH, SO IT IS INTENDED FOR THE EIGHT OF YOU TO, UH, TO VOTE, PRIORITIZE, AND POINT. WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE TEST RUN FIRST. YES, PAUL, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO YOU HERE. WALK US THROUGH SOME. ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, WE STARTED USING THIS LAST YEAR. SO THIS IS A GRAND TOTAL OF TWICE THAT I'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST, I GUESS 12 MONTHS. SO, UH, BUT WE'RE, FOR ALL OF US OUR BENEFIT, INCLUDING MINE, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE A TEST RUN HERE. SO TO DO THIS, YOU'LL NEED YOUR PHONE AND YOUR CAMERA SPECIFICALLY ACTIVATED ON YOUR PHONE. SO YOU CAN SCAN THE QR CODE. IT'LL POP UP. SO HERE IS A TEST, A TEST, SLIDO. UM, I GET TO WORK. I'M ON WARREN'S COMPUTER, SO, OH, THIS IS, SO, UH, HOW DO I MINIMIZE THIS? YOU CAN DRAG IT AWAY TOO. OKAY. SO YOU, ALL RIGHT, SO SCAN THAT. 'CAUSE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING ON THIS SCREEN UNLESS YOU SCAN THE CODE AND I, OR I SCROLL DOWN. SO, SO THE FIRST ONE IS RANK THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ACCORDING TO WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAPPED AS AN ASSISTANT COACH, KYLE WHITHAM AT MICHIGAN, OUT OF THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS. BUT I MANAGED TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU. SO SORRY, YOU CAN TAKE ME UP ON IT LATER IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT MY DESCRIPTION. SO DENISE NEEDS TO SEE. SO , YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, ZOOM IN ON YOUR CAMERA TO THE QR CODE FROM YOUR DESK. THAT WILL HELP TOO. UM, , , I BETWEEN CHAD, I . OOH. SO WHAT ABOUT MONEY? HUH? OUT. DON'T THINK, BUT MONEY TALKS. OKAY. WE FIVE PEOPLE SO FAR AND GOT IT BE FOREVER SIX. NOW FIVE. YOUR SACRIFICE. STORY OF MY LIFE. SO OF MY LEFT. ALL RIGHT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, DENISE, NNIL NEED THE MONEY. SO YOU'RE BE HOW I 100% GOT ON JUST , LIKE WHO'S GONNA NOT PARTICIPATING REST. THIS ONE IS PROBABLY OKAY IF STAFF PARTICIPATED, BUT WE NEED YOU TO DO THAT A LOT MORE ON THE LEGISLATURE AND GET YOUR VOTE. . ALRIGHT, SO MISUNDERSTOOD. STILL ALL. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE REAL STUFF. OH, THAT WASN'T REAL. WASN'T REAL, UNFORTUNATELY. DENISE, BUT YOU PROBABLY . WE'RE ALREADY MOVING DAVID. WE CAN'T LIKE LOSE THE STAFF MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO, UM, SORRY, IT'S HARD. WE, UH, ARE YOU STARTING, WELL, LEMME GIVE A PROMISE. UH, GO. YESTERDAY WHEN EACH OF YOU TALKED, WE WERE TUNING INTO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. UH, WERE YOU, WERE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE MENTIONING BUDGET ITEMS OR WERE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE MENTIONING? POLICY, UH, POLICY ITEMS, RELATED. WARREN, UH, TOOK GOOD NOTES ON POLICY ITEMS AND WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THOSE. WE TRIED TO ISOLATE THE BUDGET ITEMS. WE HEARD, UH, THROUGH ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS YESTERDAY, WE TOOK THE BUDGET ITEMS AND WE SPLIT 'EM INTO TWO GROUPS. WERE THEY, UH, BUDGET ITEMS THAT WERE PRIMARILY AS AN EXPENDITURE OF ONETIME MONEY OR PRIMARILY, UH, GOING TO BE AN ONGOING COST. AND SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU SOME POLLS ON HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THE ONETIME BUDGET ITEMS WE HEARD VERSUS THE ONGOING BUDGET ITEMS THAT WE HEARD. YOU WANNA DO THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOLLOW UP AND THEN WE'LL DO SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS AS FOLLOW UP. IS THAT OKAY? CAN WE DO 'EM IN THAT ORDER, [02:15:01] PAUL? OKAY. BUT LET ME EXPLAIN QUICK. YEAH, GO AHEAD. TO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ESPECIALLY. UM, THERE WAS, UH, THERE WERE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS DURING THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHEN THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. THEY WERE SAYING, WELL, WE WERE GOING TO USE OUR PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, WHICH IS ONGOING MONEY. YOU GET IT EVERY YEAR, NOT ONE TIME MONEY. UM, TO BUY A FIRETRUCK, FIRETRUCK IS NOT AN ONGOING EXPENSE. THAT'S A ONE TIME PURCHASE. SO TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES TO BUY A FIRETRUCK IS NOT THE RIGHT REASON TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONGOING MONEY AS LIKE SALES TAX REVENUE, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, SOME CHARGES FOR SERVICES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN HELP US DO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN EVERY YEAR AND NEED TO GROW WITH INFLATION OR SERVICE LEVEL INCREASES OR THAT KIND OF THING. ONE TIME MONEY TENDS TO BE SAVINGS FROM ONGOING MONEY. SO IN THE YEAR, IF WE HAVE CONCEIVE OR WE DIDN'T END UP SPENDING THE MONEY ON THAT SERVICE, UM, IN THAT YEAR, BUT WE WILL NEED IT THE NEXT YEAR, WE WILL DEDICATE WHATEVER SAVINGS THAT IS TO ONE TIME MONEY. THAT MEANS CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT MEANS PURCHASING SOME EQUIPMENT THAT MIGHT NOT NEED ONGOING EXPENSE. UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO ONE TIME MEANS YOU'RE BUYING IT ONE TIME, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT MOVING FORWARD WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME EXPENSE AND ADDED STAFF. THAT'S THE ONGOING PIECE, BUT THE INITIAL INVESTMENT IS CALLED ONE TIME. OKAY. SO IT'S LIKE BUYING A CAR, BUYING A HOUSE, IT'S A ONE-TIME INVESTMENT THAT YOU DO TAKING YOUR MONEY EVERY MONTH. YEAH. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SPENDING EVERY MONTH, LIKE YOUR WATER BILL. AS WE, UH, AS WE GET READY TO DO THE PRIORITIZATION, VOTE TO, UH, DENISE, WILL YOU PUT ON THE WHITEBOARD, THE FIVE PILLARS WE HAVE. THESE WERE, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS TEST. IS THAT WHAT WELL, I CAN, I'LL WE'LL CHIME 'EM OUT, RIGHT? RESIDENT FOCUSED. YEP. UH, RESIDENT FOCUSED, UH, COMMUNITY IDENTITY, EMPLOYEE SATISFAC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AESTHETICS, WHITEBOARD, EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION, AND WHAT ELSE? ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UM, AESTHETICS OR SPELLING. RIGHT. AND, UH, EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION. EMPLOYEE. YEAH. EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION. I WANNA PUT THESE UP HERE TO THINK THROUGH AS YOU DO A PRIORITIZATION. THEN WE'LL THINK ABOUT, OKAY, DO THESE, DO THEY STILL FIT? WHICH PILLARS DO THESE FIT UNDER? UM, AND ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? MAYBE THERE'S ROOM FOR DISCUSSION, UH, FURTHER UP. OKAY. LET'S DO THE FIRST SLIDE. I'LL POLL. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA GO, WE'RE GONNA DO ONGOING FIRST AND AGAIN, JUST TO WHAT CORBIN SAID. WE TRY TO ENCAPSULATE WHAT WE HEARD AND TRY TO GROUP LIKE TOPICS INTO ONE. UM, SO PLEASE CAPTURE MOST OF WHAT YOU IDENTIFIED. ARE YOU GOING TO YEAH, PROBABLY SCAN EACH ONE. WE NEED JEOPARDY MUSIC. YOU DO NEED SOME JEOPARDY MUSIC. LET'S SEE. I GOT IT. THESE ARE THE SAME THING. I TOLD YOU. YOU'D PROBABLY BE FRUSTRATED AT TIMES FEELING LIKE IT'S NOT QUITE ARTICULATING WHAT I MEAN, OR YEAH, SOME OF 'EM SAYING I AM WAITING ON CAN YOU TELL HOW MANY ARE VOTED BEFORE IT'S DONE? OH, ONE IS DONE. I DID SCREEN. UH, WE CAN TRY. WHAT? SUSTAINABILITY. NO, NO, NO, NO. SO ZACH MENTIONED, UH, SUSTAINABILITY [02:20:01] OPTIONS. UM, ZACH, DO YOU WANT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SUSTAINABILITY? LIKE, I THINK YOUR WORDS WERE YESTERDAY, RIGHT? I WANNA, I WANNA, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME RESOURCES OR PUT SOME, PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS ON SUSTAINABILITY A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. I ACTUALLY SAW IT MORE AS A POLICY THING, BUDGET THING, BUT I CUT OUT, IT'S A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU GAVE THE RESOLUTION, UH, PROPOSAL. THERE WERE, THERE WERE THINGS LIKE CONVERTING OUR LAWNMOWERS FROM GAS POWERED ENGINES TO ELECTRIC ENGINES. RIGHT? THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN MY HEAD. BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE YEAH. TO IT. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF IT. IT'S, THAT'S CODIFYING FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL. ALL IT'S CODIFYING. AND I GUESS HE DOES HAVE A BUDGET IMPLICATION TOO, BUT IT'S CODIFYING THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT. UM, WE WANNA TAKE A, TAKE A A POSITION ON TAKE A STAND THAT'S JUST WORTH RIGHT. THAN I, AND, BUT IT'S, IT'S, UM, BUT YEAH, IT SEEMS IT'S, IT'S SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS WHEN IT COMES TO WEST JORDAN. CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING THINGS BETTER. WE'RE GONNA HAVE REALLY BAD AIR QUALITY WEEKS STARTING IN ABOUT TWO DAYS AND IT'S GONNA BE BAD FOR A WEEK. AND I WANT TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA WORK FORWARD REDUCING WEST JORDAN'S FOOTPRINT, WEST JORDAN'S INPUT ON THOSE THINGS THROUGH, YEAH, THROUGH, THROUGH LOT EQUIPMENT, THROUGH TAKING A STAND ON RENEWABLE ENERGY, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. ASSESSMENT WE HAVE TO PUT POWER AND AUTHORITY TO DO. LET'S DO WHAT WE CAN. SO FOR, FOR PURPOSES OF THIS IS, ARE YOU WILLING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE IF IT'S A SUSTAINABLE THING VERSUS THE LESS EXPENSIVE BUT MAYBE LESS SUSTAINABLE OPTION? IT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I WAS CURIOUS SPECIFICALLY ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY OR LIKE BUDGET SUSTAINABLE. OH YEAH, I WAS. OKAY. PAUL, HOW ARE WE DOING? I'M DOING, WE'VE GOT SIX PEOPLE. SORRY. AH, SO FAR IT'S FINE. NOPE. PRESSURE ONLY NEED FOUR TO PASS . SEVEN, FIVE. I CAN COUNT B. WE DON'T COUNT. THERE'S FIVE WHETHER WE COUNT YOU OR NOT. . YEAH. . . HEY. READY? OKAY. TWO. ALL RIGHT. INCREASING FOCUS ON MAKING DOZENS POVERTY IN WEST JORDAN. UH, I HEARD A COUPLE OF YOU, UH, TALK ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY. ME ELABORATION. YOU WANNA SAY THERE? WELL, INCREASING INVESTMENT IN CITY EVENTS I THINK WOULD INCREASE THE FOCUS ON MAKING RESIDENTS PROPERTY IN WESTERN. UH, WELL, I THOUGHT SOMETHING THAT, AND YET THAT'S WHAT'S INTERESTING THAT, THAT PEOPLE SAY THEY'VE MOVED TO SALT LAKE, NOT THEY'VE MOVED TO WEST TOWARDS. I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD THAT, BUT THAT IS ALARMING. . THEY CAME FROM, PEOPLE ASK ME WHERE I'M FROM. I SAY SALT LAKE. YEAH. LIKE I'M, IF YOU'RE OUT, YEAH. I GO, I SAY WEST JORDAN AND IF THEY DON'T KNOW, THEN I TELL 'EM SALT LAKE. SOMETIMES IF I WANNA BE VERY SPECIFIC, I'LL SAY A SUBURB OF SALT LAKE. IT'S CALLED WEST JORDAN. YEAH. I MEAN I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY, WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR, I LAST HAVEN'T HEARD THAT. OH, YOU SHOULD. I CAN'T ANY, UH, OKAY. UM, MORE ROAD MAINTENANCE EFFORTS TO BE CLEAR. LAST BUDGET, WE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED OUR, UH, ONGOING EFFORTS ON ROAD MAINTENANCE, BUT IT DIDN'T COME UP AGAIN. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHO MENTIONED IT ABOUT ROAD MAINTENANCE. CHAD DID CHAD. YEAH, CHAD DID. WELL, I FELT LIKE THE INCREASE WE GAVE ROAD MAINTENANCE IN THE LAST BUDGET SESSION WAS MINUSCULE TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY NEEDED. IT WAS A GOOD START, BUT MAYBE NOT EVEN A GOOD START. BUT IT'S, IT'S POINTING THE RIGHT WAY. YOU'RE SAYING KEEP GOING. IT WAS, IT WAS WHEN BRIAN BROUGHT THAT YOUNG LADY, I DON'T THINK SHE MORE SHE QUIT. YEAH. SHE ENDED UP GOING, SHE WAS GREAT. GONNA GET A MONK. SHE CAME AND YEAH, SHE CAME AND GAVE ME THE PRESENTATION AND MADE ME FEEL LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH . BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A VALID POINT. BUT YOU COULD SEE THAT ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY BY A BIG INCREASE. LIKE, UM, PERCENTAGE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, DENISE. YES, I CAN, OFF THE TOP OF HEAD, DENISE AND BRIAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO, WHAT, WHAT DID WE DO FOR INVESTMENT IN ROAD MAINTENANCE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR TO THE CURRENT BUDGET? WHAT WAS THE CHANGE? FOUR EIGHT, [02:25:01] 100% INCREASE FROM THE 2024 BUDGET TO 25. SO WE WERE PREVIOUSLY USING THE MAJORITY, NOT LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE. 90% OF THE BUDGET FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE WAS CLASS C ROAD FUNDS, WHICH WAS EXCLUSIVELY WHAT THE STATE WAS GIVING US OUT OF THE GAS TAX. UM, AND THAT WAS ABOUT FOUR, FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. UM, AND THEN WE DOUBLED IT TO EIGHT. SO IT WAS 4 MILLION STILL FROM CLASS C AND THEN ANOTHER 4 MILLION. YES. SO WE TOOK, WE DEDICATED ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR. AND WE HAVE A LONG TERM PLAN TO SUSTAIN. UH, THEN WE ALSO, WE ALSO DID AESTHETICS, 4 MILLION AESTHETICS WE GIVE MORE MONEY TO. YEAH, FOR SURE. WE'VE DONE ALL THOSE. AND I, I, AGAIN, I WANNA EMPHASIZE RIGHT, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO ANY OF THESE NO MATTER WHERE IT LANDS ON THIS LIST. I'M NOT SAYING NO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A SENSE FROM YOU AS A BODY WHERE TO, WHERE TO FOCUS, WHERE TO PRIORITIZE. YEAH. UH, WE HAVE DONE A LOT WITH AESTHETICS. MM-HMM . UM, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT OFFICER, GOOD LANDLORD PROGRAM OFFICER. UH, YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT. I THINK SOMEONE DID YESTERDAY THAT OUR, UH, ASPHALT MAINTENANCE IS AN AESTHETIC THING. WE'RE WORKING ON OUR ARTERIAL. THE, THE WAY OUR ARTERIALS LOOK. THAT'S GONNA BE AN ONGOING ONGOING YEAH. GONNA, YEAH. GONNA BE AN ONGOING LONG-TERM PUSH ON AESTHETICS. AND IT'S GONNA TAKE EVERY DEPARTMENT TO HELP, UM, LIMITING TAX INCREASES. I LIKED KAYLEEN'S WORDS. YOU DIDN'T SAY NO TAX INCREASES. YOU SAID LIMIT THEM. UH, THAT WAS A VERY PRAGMATIC WAY OF PHRASING THAT. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION REGARDING TAX INCREASES? INCREMENTAL, I THINK IS THE WORD DENISE HAS USED. AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF AS A COUNCIL, THAT IF WE FREEZE TAX INCREASES, HOW FOR AND WHERE IT'S GONNA PUT BEHIND TO GET FAR LATER. WELL, THE ISSUE WITH SALT LAKE COUNTY AND THE REASON THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SO MANY BILLS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED ON PROPERTY TAX IS THE 20% INCREASE. THE SALT LAKE COUNTY JUST DID. RIGHT. IT WAS 22. THE COUNTY DID WHAT? 90. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO SOME OF THE COUNTIES TEND TO PUT OFF THEIR PROPERTY TAX INCREASES UNTIL THEY BECOME DOUBLE DIGITS. AS SOON AS THEY BECOME DOUBLE DIGITS, THEY BECOME MAGNETS. MAGNETS FOR CRITICISM. BUT MORE THAN THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE THAN YOU NEED. BUT WHAT IT WAS, WAS THOSE SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES. THERE'S A BILL, THERE'S A BILL THIS YEAR TO LIMIT IT TO 5%. THERE'S A BILL OUT THERE THAT SAYS NO MORE THAN 5%, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO VOTER APPROVAL. YEAH. WHICH WOULD NEVER, I WONDER WHAT THE VOTERS WILL SAY. I WILL TELL YOU, MY PEERS, UH, MY PEERS IN CITY MANAGEMENT, UH, ARE ENVIOUS OF WEST JORDAN. AND THE COMMITMENT OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO DO VERY SMALL, BUT REGULAR, CONSISTENT . I MEAN, THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE WE'RE ONE OF THE BEST MANAGED CITIES IN THE STATE AS A RESULT OF THAT ADJUSTMENT. ALAN AND ADAM, I I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THE TALL ONE THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED. UH, MY, ONE OF MY FORMER, UH, CHAMBER EXECS WAS THE MAYOR OF TWILA AND THEY PROPOSED 138% TAX INCREASE, WHICH IS HUGE. THEY EVENTUALLY PASSED IT AT 80 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THE, UH, WHICH, AND SHE GOT REELECTED BY THE WAY. UM, THE LAST TAX INCREASE THEY HAD DONE WAS 39 YEARS PRIOR. WOW. IF YOU DIVIDE THOSE TWO NUMBERS, YOU GET 2.91%. SO HAD THEY DONE A 2.91% INCREASE EVERY YEAR, THEY'D BE AHEAD OF THE, THEY'D BE AHEAD. 'CAUSE YOU'D HAVE THE COMPOUNDING OF IT. UM, BUT IT SHOWS, THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS IT ILLUSTRATES VERY CLEARLY THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE, YOU NEED TO ADOPT FOR INFLATION WAS SALT LAKE COUNTY. THEY HADN'T DONE IT FOR SIX YEARS. PRETTY MUCH MOST CITIES, A LOT OF THESE CITIES ARE APPROACHING THEIR LEGISLATOR OR THE LEGISLATURE AND ASKING THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO INDEX THEIR BUDGETS AND NEW GROWTH WITH INFLATION AND ARE BEING TOLD, NO WAY WILL WE EVER DO THAT FOR YOU. AND SO THEY'RE LIKE COMING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO HANDLE IT WITH THEIR CITY. SO CORBIN IS A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT. IF THEY WOULD DO THAT, YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THAT TRUTH. YOU'D NEVER HAVE TO DO TRUTH AND TAXATION. SO WHAT WEST JORDAN IS DOING IS, IS VERY POPULAR. EVERY CITY WANTS IT AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO MANDATE IT. I THINK OUR RESIDENTS ARE GREAT TOO. I THINK SO TOO. WELL SOME, BUT I THINK I GIVE YOU KUDOS TO YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. [02:30:01] 'CAUSE IT TAKES SOME POLITICAL COURAGE. IT'S NOT, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE WAIT 17 YEARS. IT'S EASY TO KICK IT OFF TO THE NEXT TERM, THE NEXT GROUP OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. ROSE, LET'S GO ON TO THE, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? SLIDO? LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT POLL. UH, NOW WE'VE DONE ONGOING, THIS HELPS US A LOT. THANK YOU. NOW WE WANNA, WE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT ONETIME REQUESTS. UH, LET'S, UH, LET'S PRIORITIZE THOSE ONES. THERE'LL BE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE IF WE JUST TRY. YEAH, YEAH. WE'RE GONNA ASK A FEW MORE. WE'RE GONNA ASK A FEW MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE HAD QUESTIONS. . YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S THE COMMENT ABOUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN AIMING TOWARDS, UM, VACATING IT, BUT IF WE KEEP IT, WE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REHABILITATE IT. MAYBE ADD PARKING, GET RID OF SOME OF THE EXISTING PARKING THAT, THAT'S STILL FEELS LIKE A LOT. THERE ARE A TON OF UNKNOWNS ON THIS THE MUSEUM REFERS TO AND LIKE RIGHT. BY A VETERAN. YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. THAT PROBABLY NEEDS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WEST JORDAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY RUNS A MUSEUM. THE CITY OWNS THE LAND. THE MUSEUM, WHICH IS A SEPARATE NONPROFIT, OWNS THE BUILDING AND OWNS THE COLLECTION. WE GIVE THE MUSEUM THE NONPROFIT, UH, A SMALL GRANT OF 6,005 OR $6,000 A YEAR. UH, WHICH KEEPS THE LIGHTS ON TO YEAH. LITERALLY KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. THEY USED TO PAY THEIR UTILITIES. THEY OPERATE BY VOLUNTEERS. OKAY. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY PICKS A SALARY FOR THAT. RIGHT. RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. WE EVER HAVE ANY, UH, HORRIBLE NUMBER OF VISITORS PER YEAR. AND I DON'T MEAN THE PUMPKIN BLOCK. WELL, SO I GET A REPORT FROM THEM ABOUT TOTAL NUMBER OF VISITORS, BUT IT'S INCLUSIVE OF THE PUMPKIN BLOCK AND THEIR SEPARATE, LIKE VISITORS TO THE MUSEUM MEAN WE DON'T NEED NUMBER FROM THE, WE CAN PUT ON PUMPKIN MARKET, NOT MUSEUM. UH, I COULD PROBABLY ISOLATE IT WHEN THE, THEY USUALLY USUALLY GIVE THEM, BUT WHAT I GET IS AGGREGATES ALL THEIR NO, THERE'S, THERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO. THE MUSEUM'S GOTTA BE A SEPARATE MOCK. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL. ANOTHER SEPARATE LONG THOUGHT. YEAH. DEFINITIVE ACTION. I AGREE. AND NOT JUST WHEN REDO . SIGN OFF ON BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO WE BETTER. YEAH. ALAN, WE A JERK. DO WE HAVE ONE MORE? NO. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA HAVE ALAN PUT THE MUSEUM ON A WORK MEETING? IT'S COMING AS SOON AS UH, I HAVE A REQUEST ON THAT. YEAH. SORRY. . I HATE THIS 'CAUSE I'M CONFESSING ON HOW SLOW I AM WITH SOME ASPECTS OF MY JOB. UH, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE MUSEUM, MY TAKEAWAY WAS GETTING THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER. UH, I THINK BOB AND KAYLENE ARE ON THAT FROM THE COUNCIL. ROBBIE, A COUPLE STAFF MEMBERS WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE EXHIBIT TO GO ON THE NEW MUSEUM CONTRACT THAT IT OUTLINES THEIR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. YEAH, THAT'S ON MY TO-DO LIST. WE HAVEN'T OKAY. THAT'S PART OF IT. BUT I THINK WHAT BOB'S INDICATING IS A DEEPER YEAH. DISCUSSION. I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE WANT TO CALL THAT DOWN FIRST. YEAH. DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU GET IT ON HERE. I KNOW, I KNOW. UH, HOW ARE WE DOING PAUL? WE SORRY. LOSE OF SHOW OFF. ALSO A SUBSET OF ONE. IT COULD BE THAT COULD BE THE WEST. OKAY. VERY GOOD. YEAH. NUMBER ONE, DOWNTOWN CITY CENTER. NUMBER TWO, RODEO ARENA ENTRY NUMBER THREE. MAKE IT A WEST OR DESTINATION. YEAH. YOU COULD ARGUE NUMBER THREE IS A SUBSET OF ONE AS WELL. POSSIBLY. NO, BUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA COULD BE IN ONE PLACE AND UNIQUE SHOPS AND SOMETHING LIKE. YEAH. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT TOGETHER. YEP. LET'S BROADEN THIS. UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT ONE FOR A SECOND. WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE THINKING THIS WAY. UH, WELL WE PUT THIS, WE WERE THINKING ROAD MAINTENANCE IS THE MAINTENANCE, JUST THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ASPHALT ITSELF. THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS WAS ALL THE [02:35:01] THINGS THAT CAMP WAS TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY WITH ROUNDABOUTS ROAD SAFETY, UM, DEDICATED, UH, DEDICATED BIKE LANES, UH, LIMITING LEFT TURNS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LIKE INCREASED PUBLIC ROAD. . WE DIDN'T HEAR THAT YESTERDAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE LIST. BUT YOU CAN MAKE A CASE FOR IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT. WE DON'T DO PUBLIC TRANSIT. UTA DOES THAT. WELL, UH, WE LOBBY UTA FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE DON'T PROVIDE ANY, I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY FOR SLASH PAD. OUT OF THE THOSE THAT ARE UP THERE, THE EAST SIDE RESIDENTS REALLY WANT SLASH PAD IN VETERANS MEMORIAL. AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THAT HIGHER. I GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD BE PACKED EVERY DAY. LISA. WELL IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING THOUGH BECAUSE LIKE THINGS LIKE THE SPLASH PAD OR THE PUBLIC ARE BECAUSE PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR COMPARED TO DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN. YEAH. DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN. WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER SEVERAL YEARS. AND SPLASH PAD MENTIONS MEMORIAL. WE'RE TALKING SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND ONE TIME. I JUST WANNA BRING UP WHAT THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS. SO IT MAKES ME KIND OF SAD THAT IT'S NUMBER FIVE BECAUSE IT'S ESTABLISHED. I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS THAT IT'S NOT DOABLE. IT'S JUST THAT. AND THAT'S ONE FUNNY THING. WE DON'T, AND WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO ANY OF THESE. RIGHT? I KNOW. YES. AND YES. AND I THINK WHERE IT CAME UP THERE THAT, YEAH, THAT'S A DEFINITE NEED, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE, THE BIG PICTURE PIECE THINGS . BUT I AGREE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SPLASH PAD DATA LOT KIDS. THEY'RE ALL JESSICA, YOUR THOUGHTS? I HAVEN'T HEARD YOU SPEAK UP ON THIS. , WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR IMPRESSIONS WHEN YOU SEE THIS LIST? SO IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH HOW I PRIORITIZED. UM, YEAH, BECAUSE I REFLECTED THE SOCCER BECAUSE IT'S SO UP THE AIR. LIKE WHAT ANY OF US REALLY, THIS WAS CERTAIN, THIS WAS CERTAIN. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REPRIORITIZE IF WE HAD SOME CERTAIN AROUND WHAT THAT MEANT. OKAY. GOOD GATHERING PLACE ACCORDING TO THE YEAH, EXACTLY. AT THE BOTTOM WE DUNNO WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALSO LIKE HOW WE SURVEY ABOUT THE ARENA HAVING MORE THAN JUST THE RODEO THERE. WE'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS THOUGH. THAT CAN START. SPARK. WAS THERE SOMETHING LIKE DEVELOP, SORRY, I'M NOT SURE. CAN YOU SCROLL UP INTERRUPTING? SORRY. THANKS BOB. YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE DEVELOP THE DOWNTOWN SLASH CITY CENTER. WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? BUDGET IN 2026? WE DON'T, WHAT WOULD THAT YEAH, WE DON'T, IT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU'RE COMMITTING SOME VESTED FUNDS. OKAY. RIGHT NOW. AND START THE PROCESS WOULD BE, I MEAN VERY, IT COULD BE PROPERTY OFF LAND. IT COULD BE, UM, I'VE LOBBYIST OF GOING ACROSS THE STREET, ASSOCIATING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF WHERE THE PARKING LOT IT COULD BE LIKE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF START. LIKE WE'RE READY TO START. WE SHOULD FIND A PARKING LOT. THEY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, LIKE ZACH WAS SAYING YESTERDAY, WANNA GET THE BALL WRONG? GET SOME TRACTION ON SOMETHING. YOU NEED TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT MEANS. LET'S SEE A SHOVEL. WELL WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS THE MODEL THAT WEST VALLEY DID. THEY DIDN'T BUILD THEIR SAFETY AREA ONE NIGHT. IT WAS THIS, THIS, THIS. AND YEAH, REDEVELOPMENT IS REALLY HARD. AND IT IS A LONG TERM PROCESS AND LONG TERM COMMITMENT. AND IT GETS EXPONENTIALLY MORE HARD OR EXPONENTIALLY HARDER THE MORE PROPERTY OWNERS YOU HAVE. MM-HMM . AND UH, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE ONE BIG PROPERTY OWNER, SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT THOUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF SMALLER PROPERTY. PROPERTY . IT'S HUGE. SO WE, YEAH, WE DID HIRE SOMEONE TO HELP US START TOGETHER , JUST FOR LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AND UH, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT, SORRY, NOT EVEN TAXED. TAXED. RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND THEN WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS DISTRICT, WE NEED TO COLLECT A LOT MORE DATA ON IT. UM, AND THEN WE'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO'S ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER, PERFORM A DATA, SEE IT DEVELOPED AND WHAT THE GAP. BUT THE UH, FACT THAT IT'S NOT LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY IS NOT TAX DIRECT. WOULD THAT CREATE A HUGE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING? [02:40:01] YEAH. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH DEVELOPERS TO GO THROUGH AND SAY MONEY INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. WHAT IS THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE FUTURE? HAVE IT CURRENTLY AND IS THE BASE IS THE BASE YEAR IS SO LOW. YEAH. YEAH. SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY ZERO. IF IT BRINGS IN A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAX TAKE FROM ZERO TO 20 ZONE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S AN INCREMENT THERE. YEAH. LET ALONE GO INTO PO OR AN R THREE OR A PLAN COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER. BUT THE PROBLEM WOULD BE IS IF YOU DEDICATE THAT TAX INCREMENT AND IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE NO OTHER SUBSIDIZATION TO THAT. RIGHT? WELL, WE'RE NOT, WELL I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS IT TO BE ALL . NOT IT'LL BE A, IT'S GONNA BE A IT LOOKING AT THIS NUMBER. RIGHT. THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF EFFORT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT TO DO SOMETHING. IT'S GONNA BE A FOCUS OF OURS OVER THE NEXT YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. UH, ANY COMMENTS? ANY DISCUSSION, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY ARGUMENTS YOU WANNA MAKE ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS? I HAVE A QUESTION WAS ABOUT PAST, I GUESS CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE, HAVE RESIDENTS ASKED ABOUT THAT AREA A OFF ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT? LIVE AROUND THERE. DO YEAH. I LIVE IN THAT AREA. DO I THINK IN ALL HONESTY, THE PROBLEM IS IT'S BEEN THERE SO LONG. YEAH. THAT PEOPLE NOW JUST IGNORE IT. IF THEY GO BY, THEY DON'T REALIZE WHAT IT COULD BE. THEY WENT UH, I THINK AND IT'S SCHOOL DISTRICT OR SOMETHING ELSE. IF IT WERE JUST A BUNCH OF YEAH. A BODY OR SOMETHING, THEN THEY SCHOOL. BUT IT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THEY KIND GO. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT THEY ONLY OCCUPY THAT ONE. OR IS IT A WHOLE NO, I DON'T WANT THAT COMMENT BECAUSE WE OFTEN FOCUS ON THAT ONE THING LEGALLY THAT THE WHOLE PROJECT, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS WHAT, 40 ACRES, 20 ACRES SUPPORT LIKE 18, 20, 20 ACRES OUT OF WHAT I SEE AS A YEAH. 600, 600 ACRE. BUT THE DISTRICT IS THE RELATIVELY EASY BUSINESS OWNER. YEAH. THAT WAS MENTIONED. AND IT'S A GOVERNMENT ENTITY WHO WE CAN WORK WITH WHO WE'RE, WE'RE SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE TO. AND BY THE WAY, WHO BENEFITS FROM THE WE INCREASED PROPERTY TAX VALUES. YEAH. THEY GET A WINDFALL. YEP. YEAH. SO, OKAY. I DO WANNA APPLY MORE THAN JUST THEIR . I GONNA ASK THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT ZACH. 'CAUSE YOU MADE THE ARGUMENT YESTERDAY. YOU'VE MADE THE ARGUMENT IN THE PAST. I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE THAT WE GOT BROADEN OUR DEFINITION, OUR SCOPE, OUR THINKING ABOUT WHAT CITY CENTER AND OUR DOWNTOWN IS TO GO ALL THE WAY FROM THE CIVIC CENTER CAMPUS TO THE RIVER, THE WHOLE AREA BETWEEN 78TH AND 82ND FROM CAMPUS OR THE PARK OR INCLUSIVE OF THE CAMPUS ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER. THAT'S WHAT OUR PLAN IS. YEAH. WE THINK ABOUT CITY CENTER OFTEN AND DAVID'S EFFORTS, I THINK, CORRECT ME ARE WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON REDWOOD ROAD 80TH SOUTH SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY AND THAT NORTH, OR EXCUSE ME, THAT WESTERN TRACK STATION, RIGHT. THAT'S A, IN SOME WAYS THAT'S AN EASY PLACE TO START. AND IN SOME WAYS THAT'S A HARD PLACE TO START. UM, SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT STARTING OR HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF WE FOCUSED OR TRIED TO START SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THAT BIG AREA, MAYBE CLOSER TO GARDNER VILLAGE, UH, AND THE CEMETERY IN THE, THE RIVER? WELL WE LOOK AT THE, THE REDWOOD ROAD BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS LOOK AT, WE'RE DOING GHOST TOURS, THEN THAT'S THE BASE ACCESS IS THE REDWOOD ROAD. THAT'S WHY THAT SO MUCH. AND THAT'S WHERE UNFORTUNATELY REALLY THE REST OF IT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE RIVER, PROBABLY. UH, YEAH, PROBABLY RIGHT. THE, THE, THE, THE COMBINATION OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE OF TRACKS, WE, REDWOOD ROAD AND 78 SOUTH IS A REALLY GOOD DENSITY OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT MAKES SENSE THAT THAT AREA WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE COMMERCIAL AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THAT. UM, BUT STAY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF TRACKS. IT PROBABLY WILL BE A LITTLE MORE RESIDENTIAL. UH, BUT MAYBE, YEAH, MIXED. MAYBE WE, MAYBE THAT'S A PLACE TO START. MAYBE THE COMMERCIAL WOULD COME A LITTLE BIT EASIER IF WE UH, GET SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL WE COULD GROUP POPS THERE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, I'M TELLING YOU MY OWN WEAKNESSES. I THINK A LOT ABOUT CITY CENTER AND I TEND TO THINK ABOUT JUST ACROSS THE STREET AND MAYBE I SHOULDN'T BE. YEAH. WELL WE ALL DO THIS. WELL YEAH. IT'S GOTTA START SOMEWHERE. AND, AND I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH THE STARTING ANYWHERE. I'M HAPPY WITH THE STARTING. WELL IF WE BLEED DOWN FROM [02:45:01] GARDNER VILLAGE, WE'RE DOING THE, THE OTHER THING IS WE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE INCREASING THE VISIBILITY OF GARNER BUILDING, WHICH IS THE MAIN PART THING. SO, YOU KNOW THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING THAT MAYBE IT STARTS TO BLEED DOWN A LITTLE BIT AS WE START TO STILL, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO WAIT TILL WE DECIDE HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WE'VE WORKED SOME OF THESE DOWN WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON SOLVING DAVID THOUGHT, WELL I THINK TALKED TO THEIR FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT KIND OF TIP IS AVAILABLE? BECAUSE THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO START PERFORMANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR IT. AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST A REGULAR PROJECT. UH, SO WE WOULD NEED TO EITHER DO AN HTRZ, WHICH THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DO NOT LIKE 'CAUSE THEY DON'T GET A SAY IN IT. OR WE DO A TYPICAL REDEVELOPMENT AREA. AND BOTH THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY HAVE SAID THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO LOOK AT IT AND CONSIDER IT. AND SO, 'CAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TELL THE DEVELOPER, WE WANT EVERY DEVELOPER SAYS IF WE WANT TO FIVE PARKING GARAGE. SO WE START LOOKING AT SHARED PARKING. UM, SO REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS SOME WAYS DEFINE THE AREA FOR THE, FOR TIFF PURPOSES AND THEN PUT TOGETHER THE BUDGET AND THE, AND WHAT WE WANNA SEE IN THERE SO WE CAN START REALLY DRILLING DOWN ON WHAT WHAT DO WE WANT THAT TO BE. WE COULD DO THE LARGER AREA AS THE WHOLE PROJECT AREA. IN SOME WAYS THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEN YOU CAPTURE ALL THAT INCREMENT AS YOU GO FORWARD. AND THEN WE DECIDE, HEY, WITH THE FIRST TRANCHE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO FOCUS ON? WE FOCUS ON THE, JUST ACROSS FROM CITY HALL MAINLY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT UTA WHO'S A WILLING PARTNER IN THE DISTRICT, ARE BOTH WILLING PARTNERS THERE TOO. YEAH. THE CITY OWNS LAND. IT WOULD BE EASIER TO START THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE WILLING PARTNERS. ONCE YOU AND ALL THOSE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I GET A CALL SAYING, HEY, I HEAR YOU'RE TAKING MY LAND OR I HEAR YOU'RE GONNA BUY MY LAND. AND AS SOON AS YOU DO THAT VALUES, YOU KNOW, GO UP. SO I THINK WE NEED TO STRATEGIZE ABOUT THE PHASING, BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. THE, THE TRACKS AREA INTO AN HT RZ AND THEN DO THE REST OF CRA. UM, YEAH, I MEAN THOSE ARE BOTH VIABLE OPTIONS. IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE NO, AND THE COUNTY DON'T LIKE IT. THEY DON'T GET THE SAME. LET'S GET 'EM THE SAME. LET'S GO. I MEAN I'M, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY GOING TO MY FRIENDS ON THIS RULE BOARD AND SAYING, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS, WILL YOU PASS RESOLUTION ON BOARD THIS? IT'S NOT BINDING, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL, BUT WE'D LIKE YOUR BUY-IN COUNTY COUNCIL. IT'S LIKE THE SAME THING. YEAH. I I THINK WHAT THEY'RE REALLY, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IS WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO A-H-T-R-Z ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT US BEING PARTNERS. IF YOU WANT TO PARTNER, THEN LET'S DO A CRA FOR THE WHOLE THING SO THAT IT'S A JOINT EFFORT TEAM. BUT I MEAN IF HT IF WE DETERMINE THAT HCRG IS A, IS A BETTER TOOL FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH THAT THAT TO TELL YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT IF YOU DECIDE THAT'S BETTER, WE CAN STILL INVITE THEM TO, TO, TO VOICE THEIR OPINION. I KNOW WHEN THE, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PATIENT OF DATA CENTER, UM, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS HAVING THEIR CASE SCHOOL DISTRICT IT BOARD, I WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AS A COUNSELOR AND SAID, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, WE, YEAH I DON'T HAVE STAY THERE. AND WE DID. THEY DID. THE OTHER SCHOOL BOARD DIDN'T. COUNTY DIDN'T. I THINK TO GO BACK TO THE, YOUR POINT ABOUT I THINK THE NEXT STEPS ARE PUT TOGETHER THE BUDGET AND IF WE WANT TO DO THE WHOLE AREA THEN, THEN WE CAN PUT TOGETHER THAT AND WHAT WE NEED TO START DOING. WE TALK ABOUT HIRING SOME CONSULTANTS TO HELP LOOK AT STRUCTURE AND MAKE SURE THE ADEQUATE UTIL THAT, UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE ACQUISITION COSTS? WHAT'S THE TIP THAT'S GENERATED OFF THAT? SO WE'VE STARTED SOME OF THOSE THINGS BUT I THINK WE REALLY JUST NEED TO PROBABLY FOCUS ON WHAT'S THE THAT WE WANNA DO SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT. SO DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK COST TO GET THOSE THINGS? PUT A CONSULTING THE BUDGET, PUT THE OTHER CONSULTANTS. THEY'RE GONNA DO A STUDY ON HOW MUCH STUDIES SHOULD COST AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BEST GONNA COST CONSULTANT. ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IS SOME OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS IS PART OF THE BUDGET [02:50:01] COSTS BE HELPFUL WOULD BE TO GET, THINK MORE SO TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE THAN NOT JUST ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT EFFORT INTO IT. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEN WE DO THIS LITTLE ABORTION AND MAYBE THAT GETS DONE IN EIGHT YEARS, BUT THEN IN TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS OR SIX YEARS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THEY'RE LIKE, MAN, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT. BUT THEN IT FIT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE REALLY, UH, INVEST SOME TAXPAYER RESOURCES IN ACTS AS A CATALYST TO CREATE REDEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE TAXPAYER. UH, THEY MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT LIKE MAKING OUR UTILITIES CAN HANDLE IT. UM, I THINK WE NEED THAT . OKAY. OR JUST, JUST REAL QUICK FOR THE BENEFIT. JORDAN LANDING STARTED WITH A MOVIE THEATER AND TURNED INTO WHAT IT IS. ONE STATION STARTED WITH A HOTEL AND SO YOU'VE GOT UH, ANCHOR A PIECE TO GET US STARTED, BUT THEY ENDED UP FIND THE ENTIRE ERROR. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT POLL. ALRIGHT. WE THANK YOU. THIS HELPS US. THIS WAS A GOOD PRIORITIZATION EXERCISE. IT'S NODDING IN HIS HEAD. IT'S GOT, HE PUT US TO WORK ON THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S FRAMING AS DEPARTMENT HEADS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING, WE'RE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. UH, THESE NEXT QUESTIONS ARE, UM, ONE OPS AND YOU'RE GONNA HATE A COUPLE OF 'EM. UH, BUT IT'S INTENDED TO JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, COLOR TO SOME OF THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS. HMM. I TOLD YOU OF MUSEUM. THINK ABOUT AN ART CENTER. THEY'RE NEVER GONNA PAY FOR THIS. FOR THE INVESTMENT. YEAH. I DISAGREE. A PARK . RIGHT? RIGHT. THIS ISN'T INTENDED TO BE A DEBATE. GOVERNMENT EXISTS OR THINGS THAT DON'T. I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD CHARGE MISSION ALL PARTS. THIS ISN'T INTENDED TO BE A DEBATE ON WHETHER IT COULD OR COULD PAY FOR ITSELF. IT IS. WOULD YOU BE, WOULD YOU STILL BE SUPPORTIVE? ONLY FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. ALRIGHT. IS THAT EVERYONE? YEP. OKAY. YES. GREAT. OKAY. GO TO THE UH, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION. SORRY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE FIRST? YEAH, THAT FELT, UH, YEAH, THAT FELT PRETTY CLEAR DIRECTION. YOU WANNA IMPROVE THE RODEO ARENA. UH, EVEN IF IT MEANS SOME TAXPAYER SUBS TO IMPROVE IT, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT AS . OH YEAH. NOTICE THE WORD EVENT. THIS IS DIFFERENT. THE, THE OTHER ONE WAS ABOUT THE FACILITY. THIS IS ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT GO ON IN THE FACILITY. UM, 'CAUSE WE IMPROVE THAT FACILITY. IT'S KIND OF WITH THE INTENTION THAT THERE WILL BE MORE EVENTS THERE. BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PUT ON THOSE EVENTS OR TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE EVENTS? THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THAT'S THE DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF YOUR EVENTS. BE AN INDEPENDENT THAT ARE GOING TO YEAH, THEY'RE DEFINITELY USED TO BE AN INDEPENDENCE OPTION. WE INTENTIONALLY DIDN'T GIVE YOU THAT BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE WOULD PUT THAT. WHAT ELSE WOULD THAT EVENT ACCOMPLISH? DOESN'T BRING MONEY. COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S WORTH PUTTING MONEY INTO IT. NOT SEE, THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT PAYING FOR THEMSELVES SOMETIMES SIX PAID FOR THEMSELVES IN OTHER WAYS THAT MONEY DOES OUR, DOES OUR, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING. RIGHT? DO YOU VIEW THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AS NOT NECESSARILY BEING MONEY? RIGHT. WE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATION FROM YOU ABOUT BEING A DESTINATION, CREATING A SENSE OF IDENTITY AS THE FIREWORK SHOW EVER. BRINGING PEOPLE IN. NEVER. AND THOSE ARE ALL SUPER VALID REASONS TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS PUTTING ON EVENTS IN A RODEO ARENA, IF IT MEANS WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE EVENT HAPPENING, IT'S OKAY. 'CAUSE THE RETURN ISN'T DOLLARS. THE RETURN IS IDENTITY, SENSE OF COMMUNITY DESTINATION, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THREE QUARTERS OF 'EM SAY YES. WELL, AND AGAIN, THOSE THINGS DO PAY OFF IN THE LONG. WE BUILD THAT SENSE OF IDENTITY, WE BUILD THOSE THINGS. WE PRACTIC INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND PAYS OFF THE LONG TERM. AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE MARKETING EXPENSE. I'VE BEEN IN MARKETING FOREVER. YOU SPEND MONEY ON ADVERTISING, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE ALL [02:55:01] THE REVENUE AND CAN CONTRIBUTE IT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, YES, I BOUGHT THIS FOR CO COLA BECAUSE IT ADD ON THE BACK OF A MAGAZINE. RIGHT. YOU PUT THE MONEY IN SOMEWHERE, IT MAY COME OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF IT DOESN'T COME OUT IN THE SAME PLACE, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S COMING OUT. MEANS IT'S, IT'S BENEFITING IN OTHER WAYS THAT WILL PRODUCE REVENUE ON THEIR OWN LATER. COREY? SO I WAS JUST GONNA CHIME IN FROM FACILITIES AND EVENTS SIDE. 'CAUSE I, I LOVE EVERYBODY VOTED TO INCREASE YOUR FACILITY ITSELF. BUT IN MY OPINION FROM ABOUT THIS PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU'RE GONNA INVEST, INCREASE THE FACILITY, YOU'RE, THEY GO TOGETHER, YOU'RE GONNA WANNA INCREASE THE EVENTS. WHY DON'T A HUGE NICE FACILITY IF YOU'RE GONNA DECREASE THE EVENTS? WE, WE KIND OF HAVE BEEN HAVING THE ASSUMPTION. I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN STATED OVERTLY, BUT I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN HAVING THE ASSUMPTION, UH, IF WE INVEST IN THE RODEO ARENA, IT'S WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING MORE EVENTS AT THE RODEO. BUT THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO THINGS, PROBABLY THE TWO INVESTMENTS PROBABLY NEED TO GO TOGETHER. YOU INVEST MORE IN THE RODEO ARENA AND YOU INVEST IN PUTTING ON THE EVENT. UH, LET'S DO THE NEXT ONE. YEAH. OKAY. THIS WAS NOT ONE YOU BROUGHT UP, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE AS STAFF BROUGHT UP. UH, YOU WANT, WE SAW SOME HEAD NODDING. I KNOW I NEED TO, WE SAW SOME HEAD NODDING, BUT I WANT TO JUST GET SOME CLARITY 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE. DO YOU SUPPORT THE IDEA OF UH, STARTING IN 2027, AGAIN, NOT THIS SUMMER, BUT IN 2027 SPLITTING OUT CITY DAYS, UH, FROM WESTERN STAMPEDE DOING AN EVENT OUT AT RON WOOD PARK. UH, PROBABLY ANCHORING IT WITH THE CARNIVAL AND HAVING THE CARNIVAL NOT BE AT THE RODEO AND THE VETS, BUT MOVING IT OUT TO RON WOOD DOING SOME OTHER, THERE, THERE'S A STRANGE THING IN DRIVING THE GOLF CART A LOT DURING THE RODEO AND HELPING OUT PEOPLE. MANY OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A MM-HMM . ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LIBRARY TRACK CENTER. CORY, I THINK THAT'S PARTLY WHY CORY PITCHED THIS IDEA FIRST IS BECAUSE, YEAH, WE AS A CITY THINK OF IT AS ONE BIG EVENT, BUT THE ATTENDEES, IT'S KIND OF TWO SEPARATE THINGS. RODEO, THEY DON'T CROSS CROSSPOLLINATE. WE STRATEGICALLY FOLLOWED ON OUR GOLF CARTS. A LOT OF 'EM AFTER THE, THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY'RE GOING BUT THEY WERE WALKING TO THEIR CARS. YEAH. THERE WASN'T A WHOLE UP, THERE WAS PEOPLE WHO HAD NO IDEA. YEAH. AS MUCH AS I LOVE HAVING THE CARNIVAL VETERANS, IT'S NOT VISIBLE. TREES ARE TOO BIG. IT'S TOO FAR OFF THE STREET. IT'S, IT'S NOT. WHEN WHEN YOU HAVE IT AT LIKE, LIKE I KNOW OREM AT THEIR PARKING ON CENTER AND THEY, YOU CAN'T MISS IT, MAN, YOU, YOU ARE WITHIN THREE BLOCKS AND YOU KNOW, OUR, YOU COULD BE ON INSIDE OF THE LIBRARY NOT. SO I WANNA JUST SAY TWO THINGS ABOUT THIS. ONE THAT I THINK ABOUT LOCATION, THE WRONG WITH PARK, THAT'S NOISE AND PEOPLE PARKED ON THE STREET FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT? I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT. IS THAT GONNA BE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY NOISE CHAT? SO IMAGINE WHERE YOU LIVE AND SOMEONE PUT A CARNIVAL RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE, LIKE IT'S TO THE WRIST. THREE DAYS OF A LOUD CARNIVAL NOISE. YOU CAN MOVE THOSE RIDES PEOPLE MUSIC AND THEN THE ROAD RIGHT BEHIND THE PEOPLE WOULD DEFINITELY KNOW THERE WAS PEOPLE GONNA PARK ALONG THAT ROAD. AND YOU'LL DEFINITELY GET CALLED THE MAYOR DURING THIS EVENT. I CAN'T, I CAN'T GET IT OUT MONDAY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE GET 27. IT IS UH, BY 2027. BUT OUT THERE REALLY GOOD ONES. THOSE ARE NOISE. WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD ANSWER. I KNOW THAT COREY, IN THINKING ABOUT IT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A SIGNAL SHOULD WE START THINKING ABOUT THE PLAN, THE SITE PLAN, THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WE MAY GET INTO THE SITE PLAN FOR THAT KIND OF EVENT. REALIZE, HEY, THIS ONLY WORKS IF THE ROLLER COASTER'S ON THOSE SOCCER FIELDS RIGHT AGAINST THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S A DEAL KILLER. IF IT WORKS, THEN THE ROLLER COASTER, THE FERRIS WHEELS CAN BE PUSHED AWAY FROM THE HOMES. UH, YEAH. BY, YOU KNOW, BY THE WATER TANKS OR ON, UH, WARD PARK DRIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THERE'S SOME DISTANCE. MAYBE IT WORKS, BUT IT'S A REALLY VALID CONCERN TOO. YEAH, WELL I'M OKAY IF WE SEPARATE 'EM AND IT EVEN STAYS BOTH OF THEM STAY IN BEDFORD PARK. DIFFERENT KIND. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TIMES THOUGH. THEY, IT JUST ABOUT THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE WE'RE WANTING TO BRING NEW WEST SIDE MORE INTO IT. WHAT IF IT'S STILL DURING WEST? I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK YOU JUST HAVE THE CARNIVAL AT RON WOOD FOR ALL THE BENEFITS THERE. [03:00:01] SO THE WEST SIDE FEELS MORE INVOLVED. SORRY, MAYOR. AND THEN YOU KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE. OH, I THINK SEPARATES OUR EVENTS STAFF TOO. ONE OF THE, THAT IS A CHALLENGE. LOGISTICS DOING, UH, TWO EVENTS AT THE SAME TIME. DIFFERENT AREAS. RIGHT. I DO AGREE BEING ON THE WEST SIDE IS A, IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE PEOPLE OUT THERE JUST LIKE, WELL I DON'T WANT START OVER THERE. YOU, I WANT IT TO BE CLOSER TO ME AND, AND THE AREA GROWING OUT THERE. SO AS WE START THIS, MAYBE START SMALL, IT CAN GROW BIGGER AS THE, AS THE UH, POPULATION GOES ON THE WEST SIDE, THE BOUNCE HOUSE. AND YOU'LL GET BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF THAT FROM I CAN GET BOTH SIDES. SERVICE SIDE, RIGHT. THERE'LL BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT SAY, WHY CAN'T I EVER HAVE EVENTS OUT HERE? AND THEN THEIR NEIGHBOR SAYS, DON'T YOU DARE PUT EVENTS OUT HERE. THEY'RE TOO LIKE ARE NOT BOTH, ARE THEY NOT NOISE COMPLAINTS AND PARTS COMPLAINTS WHERE IT'S NOW? YES. OKAY. WELL THERE'S NO NOISE COMPLAINTS BUT THERE ARE. YES. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE 2200 TWICE AS MUCH PARKING CATEGORY. YEAH. RIGHT. IT IS THE SAME NUMBER. WHETHER THEY'RE ON THE WEST SIDE OR, WELL, AND IT'S THREE DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR. PART OF IT I CIRCLE TO, I HEAR IT EVERY NIGHT AND I'M JUST LIKE, OKAY, IT'S OUT. CAN I ASK, SO I WORKED AT COL HEIGHTS BUTLER DAYS. YOU'VE BEEN THERE IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO A HOME IN THE PARK. 10,000 PEOPLE. WE WERE A HUNDRED FEET FROM UH, RESIDENCES, PROPERTY LINES. WE NEVER HAD ISSUES. BUT WHAT WE DID DO IS WE WORKED WITH THE RESIDENT. UH, EVERY RESIDENT THAT WAS NEIGHBORING OF UH, NEXT TO THE CARNIVAL WOULD GET VOUCHERS FOR FREE. CARNIVAL TICKETS WOULD GET DIFFERENT THINGS. AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, THEY ENJOYED IT. THEY CAN SEE THIS STUFF AND, AND IT BECAME KIND ALMOST LIKE THEIR TRADITION TYPE THING. SO WE TURNED IT INTO A . SO WE DO HAVE, THERE, WE'VE ALSO GOT MORE, MORE SPACE AT . SO LOTS OF OPTIONS. SOME OF THIS THINKING CAME FROM IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE DONE KIND OF THREE MUCH SMALLER EVENTS OUT AT RON WOOD. WE, UH, DID THE INITIAL WHEELS PARK OPENING. WE DID THE BLOCK PARTY ON THE BRIDGE, WE DID THE BIKE PARK OPENING. THOSE WERE SO FUN. MM-HMM . THERE WERE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A BAND OUT THERE PLAYING. THERE WAS MUSIC. UH, THE PEOPLE COMING OUT WERE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE IT WAS OUT ON THE WEST SIDE. UH, AND SO WE JUST, WE LOVE HOW ROUNDWOOD PARK IS COMING TOGETHER AND IT'S BEEN SUCH AN AMAZING COMMUNITY. THIS IDEA OF A SEPARATE CITY DAYS WAS CATALYZED BY THE YOU ALL STAFF DEPARTMENT? IT WAS, YEAH. IT WAS COREY'S TEAM BRAINSTORMING. OKAY. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION. AS WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE WERE HEARING ABOUT, WE HAD A LITTLE INTERNAL DEBATE OF WHAT YOU MEANT AND WE THOUGHT WE BETTER ASK YOU. 'CAUSE WE, WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT EVENTS, MORE EVENTS, SENSE OF COMMUNITY, SENSE OF IDENTITY. AND WE WERE DEBATING, DOES THAT MEAN MORE EVENTS OR DOES THAT MEAN FEWER EVENTS BUT BIGGER EVENTS? I CAN'T MARK BOTH. I CAN WHAT? I BIGGER, WHICHEVER ONE YOU PICK. WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO THE OTHER ONE. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR KIND OF SOME, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE YOUR DRUTHERS OR IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE, WHICH, WHICH DIRECTION WOULD YOU PREFER? AND YOU CAN ARGUE, HEY, I WANT BOTH, I WANT SMALLER EVENTS AND THAT MORE BIGGER. WHAT THING? THE CATEGORY OF CIRCLE IS THAT LIKE, UH, SMALL AND TALL BALL, UH, CRAFT AND CRAVINGS. UH, VETERANS DAY, MEMORIAL DAY. UH, WE DO A LOT OF EVENTS. WE SAW 105 DIFFERENT EVENT DAYS. AND SOME OF THOSE ARE VERY STAFF INTENSIVE, BUT NOT GIANT ATTENDANCE. AND ATTENDANCE ISN'T THE FOCUS OF CERTAIN EVENTS. UM, LIKE VETERANS DAY, MEMORIAL DAY, UM, WE'RE KIND OF ASKING SHOULD WE KEEP ON THAT PATH OR ARE YOU SAYING, NO, NO, NO, WE WANT BIGGER ATTENDANCE. WE WANT EVENTS THAT ARE GONNA DRAW THE OUTSIDE COMMUNITY. THAT'S PROBABLY DIFFERENT LINE OF THIS WILL REALLY HELP YOU. PERFECT, PERFECT ANSWER. SORRY BOTH. THAT IS YES TO BOTH . ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? ? WELL, I, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FIND MORE, MORE EVENTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO THINK THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO THESE SMALLER KIND OF THINGS. BUT I, I DO THINK THAT WE CAN JUST LOOK AT WHAT OUR EVENTS ARE GONNA DRAW PEOPLE AND, AND GET THAT GOING. I, WE WORK, ONE THING I FORGOT TO TALK ABOUT, COREY SENT ME A THING 'CAUSE I HAD MENTIONED WORLD RECORD IN, UH, EASTER EGG HUNT. HE SEEMED [03:05:01] ME TO THINK THAT THE WORLD RECORD IN EASTER EGG HUNT IS UH, LIKE 501, 501,000 EASTER EGGS. WE USUALLY DO A LITTLE OVER 22,000, WHICH IS A TON. BUT IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT $64,000 WOULD GET US THAT MANY MORE EGGS AND PUT US ON A, ON A, BUT, UH, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, BUT IT GAVE YOU AN IDEA THAT, IT'S INTERESTING TO THINK THAT WE DO 22,000 ANYWAY. ARE THERE, I WOULD HATE TO SEE US GET AWAY FROM A VETERAN MEMORIAL. I THINK THAT SOME OF THOSE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DRAW, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE STILL VALUABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEND MESSAGE. THEY'RE CREATING, CREATING COMMUNITY ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT PEOPLE AND CROWDS AND ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S ABOUT MEMORIAL, MEMORIAL DAY, HONOR CAR SHOW. WHAT'S THAT MEMORIAL DAY WITH THE CAR SHOW? 'CAUSE OUR, MY FIRST YEAR AND I THINK EVEN BEFORE I GOT ELECTED, SO 20 APRIL 14TH, 14, 16, RIGHT. UH, OUR MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, WE, WHERE IT IS NOW, THERE WERE CHAIRS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SIDEWALKS IN THE PARKING LOT AND IT WAS FULL, IT WAS STANDING. RAMONA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHERE WE DID BREAKFAST. NO, NO, NO. THIS WASN'T AFTERNOON. WE HAD LEVELS THERE. I HAVE A PICTURE OF HIS, UM, HERE'S THE ANSWER RIGHT THERE. DIED. I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. UM, BUT I MEAN, SINCE THEN WE HAD BEEN THE ADAM SCUM. MAYBE THAT IS THE ANSWER RIGHT THERE. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, BEN MIGHT, BUT, UM, WE HAD, HE HAD PROBABLY 500 PEOPLE THERE AT MEMORIAL DAY WITHOUT A CAR. ARE THERE ANY EVENTS YOU FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. I CHANGED EITHER. ZACH. SORRY. I WANTED, SO WHEN I, SO WHEN YOU SEE YOU WERE SMALLER AND YOU IDENTIFY MEMORIAL DAY IS SMALLER. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SMALL. YEAH. AND THAT, THAT'S WHERE I, I WAS IN THAT SAME BOAT. YOU, UM, YOU, I HEARD SOME OF YOU MENTION, UM, I THINK IT IS CONSIDERATION, RIGHT? ARE THERE THINGS WE SHOULD STOP DOING? UH, ARE THERE EVENTS WE SHOULD STOP DOING IN YOUR OPINIONS? I HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE EXPENDING ON THEM AND THE ATTENDANCE. I SAY 105 EVENTS AND I NEED TO KNOW, ARE THEY MOSTLY FAMILY MEMBERS? THOSE DOING THE EVENT THAT ARE THERE OR ARE THEY GOOD QUESTIONS? NOT 105 EVENTS, 105 EVENT DAYS. SO LIKE EVENT, THE WESTERN STAMPEDE, THERE'S TECHNICALLY THREE OR FOUR DAYS THAT, SO SOME EVENTS COULD BE MULTIPLE DAYS AND A LOT OF OUR EVENTS. SO YEAH, I TELL YOU, I'M REALLY PROUD OF OUR EVENTS DIVISION BECAUSE THEY REALLY WORK HARD ON FINDING WAYS TO CO-SPONSOR TO PARTNER. LIKE ALL THE FIRST FRIDAY, WE GET A TON OF TRACTION. WE GET ABOUT 400 PEOPLE COMING, UH, EVERY TIME. WE DON'T ACTUALLY SPEND VERY MUCH MONEY ON THAT AND HAVE VERY LITTLE STAFF TIME BECAUSE IT'S PARTNERED WITH EXCELLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE LIBRARY AND THE COUNTY. AND IT'S AN EVENT, A MONTHLY CONCERT IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE NOT SOLELY RESPONSIBLE. SO I KNOW THAT'S AN UNFAIR PART. I HAVE, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS. UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE AN IDEA. YOU JEFF, WHAT I DID IN, IN MIDVALE, WE HAD THIS, UH, THE PRE CONCERTS ON FRIDAY NIGHTS, THESE CONCERTS IN THE PARK. AND THE BUDGET FOR IT WAS LIKE AT ONE POINT 35, $40,000 TO PUT ON NINE CONCERTS. AND THE PERSON WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT LEFT AND THEY PUT ME IN CHARGE. AND I SAID, WELL, LET'S DO THIS DIFFERENT. INSTEAD OF BRINGING IN THE HOTTEST BAND IN COLORADO SPRINGS TO UTAH THAT HAS NO FOLLOWING, WHY DON'T WE JUST GET THE UTAH BANDS THAT HAVE THE BEST FOLLOWING, CALL IT THE BEST OF UTAH AND DO IT THAT. AND THEN I TOLD ALL THE BANDS, WE'LL GIVE YOU $500 TO COME PLAY. AND THEY SAID NO. I JUST WENT TO THE NEXT BAND AND SAID, IT'LL GIVE YOU $500 TO COME PLAY. AND WE ENDED UP DOING NINE BANDS. MY MY BUDGET ENDED UP BEING, UH, AND SOME OF THEM DID IT FOR FREE. I, MY BUDGET WAS NOW $5,000. AND WE WENT FROM A TEAM OF EIGHT PEOPLE THAT CONTROL ALL OF THIS AND HAVING TO GET HOTEL ROOMS AND ALL OF THIS STUFF TO, I BECAME THE ONLY PERSON WHO WOULD COME TO THE EVENT, UH, AS A STAFF AND MAKE SURE THAT IT GOT SPLIT TOGETHER. UM, BUT IT WAS THE SAME BIG EVENT AS FAR AS THE CITY WAS CONCERNED, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S A MATTER OF JUST LOOKING AT THINGS. HOW CAN WE DO THINGS? THE ANSWER IS WE WANT 400 PEOPLE TO COME TO SOMETHING. NOT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS TO BRING 400 PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A MATTER OF LOOKING AT THINGS. WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT, WHAT CAN BRING THOSE AMOUNTS? [03:10:01] AND LOOKING AT, AT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, I, I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT OF EVENTS AND MAKE THEM, MAKE THEM BIG EVENTS, BUT JUST LOOKING AT HOW DO WE DO IT AND STILL WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER TO KIND OF . I WAS JUST GONNA COMMENT. THE QUESTION WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ANSWER BECAUSE I ACTUALLY EXACTLY RIGHT. IF THIS, IF 2026 HAD THE SAME NUMBER AND TYPES OF EVENTS, FIVE, I THINK WE'VE GOT IT. A COMMENTATION CO. DID YOU HEAR THAT? SORRY, WE'RE TALKING TEMPERATURE IN THE ROOM. MAYOR, BRING A JACKET. WE'RE ALMOST DONE. I KNOW. IT GOT COLD ALL OF A SUDDEN WITH WE'RE ALMOST DONE. UH, THIS THE LAST QUESTION OR SECOND TO LAST. ALL RIGHT, TWO MORE QUESTIONS. YOU'RE GONNA HATE IT. I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HATE ME FOR ASKING IT. NO, IT'S A YES NO, EITHER OR. AND YOU'RE ALL GONNA WANNA SAY IT DEPENDS. BUT IF YOU COULD ONLY SPEND $10 MILLION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHICH WOULD, WOULD YOU DO? SO RODEO IMPROVEMENT OR THE DOWNTOWN INVESTMENTS? AGAIN, IT'S NOT A, IT'S, YOU'RE GONNA HATE IT WHEN IT COMES. 50 50 IS THIS, UM, FOR ONE YEAR, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON THIS? YEAH. ONE YEAR FOR ONE. ONE, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY WE'RE COMMITTED, WE'RE GONNA TAKE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MONEY ONE TIME $10 MILLION TO GET ONE OF THESE TWO THINGS OFF THE GROUND. BUT YOU CAN ONLY PICK ONE OR TWO. ONE OF THE TWO. YOU CAN'T SPLIT IT 50 50. WHICH DO YOU? MILLION DOLLARS. I BUY YOU NOTICE THE PETTY THAT I PUT UP THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS. ALRIGHT. 10 MILLION. NOW THE OTHER ONE SAYS IF I A MILLION, MILLION DOLLARS, THE SUSPENSE, HERE WE GO. FOR ME, MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS GAME ON DOWNTOWN INVESTMENTS BUILDING UP WOULD EVENTUALLY, IF YOU COULD ONLY DO ONE DOWNTOWN INVESTMENTS WOULD EVENTUALLY GIVE YOU THE MONEY TO DO RODEO INVESTMENTS. BUILDING THE RODEO MAY NOT GIVE YOU THE MONEY TO DO HELP YOU WITH DOWNTOWN. HOW ABOUT THE EXACT SAME THING LIKE SUCCESS OF DOWNTOWN WILL BEGET SUCCESS WITHIN THE RODEO JUST BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY OF NOTHING ELSE. AND I DON'T LIKE $10 MILLION DOES MUCH FOR WELL, EITHER, BUT THAT WAS JUST THE QUESTION. THEY'RE BOTH IN THE STATIONARY PLAN. YEAH. YEAH. I, I CHOSE RODEO THINKING THAT 10 MILLION WOULD GO FURTHER ON SOMETHING THAT ALREADY HAS A LOT OF IMPACT IN WEST JORDAN. I THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER. 10 MILLION GO FURTHER. IF YOU QUESTION THAT WAY. I GET IT. WHEN I SAW THAT IF YOU HAVE 1 MILLION OR 10 MILLION, I, I STARTED THINKING, OH, IF YOU'RE DREAMING AND YOU JUST HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, WHERE DO YOU WANT SEE IT PUT? YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I 10 MILLION'S A LOT OF PROPERTY. I MEAN THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD HEAVY LIFT. AND I AGREED WITH BOB, THAT IS HOW LIFE OPEN. JUST BECAUSE DOWNTOWN INVESTMENT CREATES OPPORTUNITY FOR YEAH. BRINGS IN REVENUE DOWN. YEAH. DOWNTOWN INVESTMENTS WILL, WILL HAVE AN ROIA RODEO INVESTMENT HAVE LESS OF A IMMEDIATE . BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THEY WILL BOTH HAVE ROIS. YES. BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME IMMEDIATELY ATTRIBUTABLE. YEAH. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, JESSICA? YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY I VOTED FOR THE DOWNTOWN INVESTMENTS FOR THE SAME REASON. BUT ALSO I THOUGHT IF RESIDENTS START TO SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THAT. UM, AND I KNOW I, EVEN THOUGH THE STAMPEDE IS A HUGE PART OF, YOU KNOW, MUCH SHORTER AND I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT IT'LL, IT WOULD BE THE ROI WOULD BE FASTER AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY SEEP DOWN TO THE RODEO. SO THAT'S WHY PUT IT THAT WAY. THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. 'CAUSE ALL OF US WANT BOTH. YEAH. YEAH. WE JUST HAVE $20 MILLION. THERE YOU GO. UH, LAST QUESTION. SO, UM, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. I THREW THIS ONE OUT THERE. I DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS AND YOU'RE GOING TO WONDER THE SAME THING. BUT LET ME GIVE YOU A SCENARIO. YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION YOU DON'T KNOW. YEAH. , UH, YESTERDAY DAVID DOBBINS SHOWED THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT AND THE AIRPORT'S EFFORTS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR REINVESTMENT, UH, REDEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT. WE REALLY WANNA SEE THAT HAPPEN. WE THINK THAT'S PRIME COMMERCIAL SPACE. WE THINK IT'S GREAT. THE AIRPORT PROPER ISN'T US, BUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AIRPORT IS, SHOULD WE START DOING [03:15:01] SOMETHING TO TRY TO BE A CATALYST TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AIRPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE WEST OF JORDAN? LANDING BETWEEN JORDAN LANDING AND THE RUNWAY. YES. THERE'S LIKE, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. YEAH. BUT YES. OH, LIKE WE'RE ALREADY DOING KIND OF. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALL THE RAW ROUND YOU GET OUT THERE, YOU'LL BE AMAZED AT THE AMOUNT OF RAW GROUND BETWEEN LIKE THE HOTELS AND CANYON VIEW CREDIT UNION AND THE FIRE STATION AND THE RUNWAY. THAT'S THE LAND THAT THE AIRPORT HAS SAID WE WANT. WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS AREA DEVELOPING. IT'S OVER A HUNDRED ACRES. DO WE AS A CITY NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO START INCENTIVIZING AND ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA? MAYBE IT'S UTILITY UPGRADES, MAYBE IT'S A, AN INITIAL INVESTMENT IN THE ROAD SO THAT THE LAND ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD CAN DEVELOP. UM, ARE YOU, I HEAR THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD UP THE CROWDS . I WISH, I WISH WE . IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING THAT WE CAN'T GET BETTER, UM, COMMUNITY RETURN IN THE SOCCER COMPLEX LAND. BUT YOU COULD PUT SOCCER FIELDS. THEY'RE NOT IN THE PROTECTION ZONE. IF YOU PUT 'EM ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AREA, YOU COULD, YOU COULD. BUT THE AIRPORT REQUIRES IT TO BE AVIATION NATIVE ONLY THE NAVIGATOR POINT SOCCER. YEAH. THE NEAR, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. THERE'S TWO ZONES. IF YOU NOTICED THE DAY ORIENTATION YESTERDAY, THERE WAS THE EASTERN ZONE, WHICH COULD BE OPEN COMMERCIAL, THE WESTERN ZONE, WHICH REALLY BUMPS UP AGAINST THE RUNWAY, WHICH NEEDS TO BE AVIATION RELATED, BUT AVIATION RELATED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AVIATION RELATED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT RIGHT? SO SHOULD WE START KICKING IN SOME SO CONFERENCE CENTER. THAT'S RIGHT. ANY OTHER, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? ANY QUESTIONS FURTHER DISCUSSION? AIRPLANES, DEALERSHIP, AIRPLANES, DEALERSHIP, MILITARY. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING, RIGHT? THE FIRST AIR TAXI DEALERSHIP. OH, I LIKE THAT. COULD BE THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, APPS. FAVORITE TECHNOLOGY? THE, YEAH, THE AIR MOBILITY. UH, THE PEOPLE. YEAH, THE VERTICAL. UH, THE VERTICAL. I MAKE ELECTRIC HELICOPTERS. THAT'S WHAT I CALL, THEY ALREADY HAVE VERTICAL TAKEOFF AIRCRAFT. OKAY. NOW THAT WE WENT THROUGH THESE EXERCISES, I, THINGS WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT. ARE THERE, UH, ARE THERE THINGS LEFT UNRESOLVED BESIDES THE EVENT? MORE BIGGER EVENTS? WAS THAT THE LAST QUESTION? THAT'S THE LAST QUESTION WE HAVE. OKAY. I TAKE IT BY SILENCE NOW CHIEF, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS UNRESOLVED IN MY MIND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LIST. UM, I CAN INTERPRET WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT ROLE IS IN THESE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A REAL CLEAR DIRECTION ON THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL OR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE ENGAGING WITH THIS AND MORE, ALSO MORE IMPORTANT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. SO THIS IS A QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT AS YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT YOUR PRIORITIES, HOW DO YOU WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR EXAMPLE? I THINK AS WE GROW AS A CITY, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY INTENTIONAL. AT LEAST I DO AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT ON WHERE WE PUT OUR EFFORTS. IF CUTTING DOWN OUR RESPONSE TIMES IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, THEN, BUT REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT FOR US IS TO ADD A LOT OF PATROL STAFF. BUT IF PUBLIC OUTREACH IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, LIKE IT IS TO ME, THEN WE CAN CARVE OUT SOME SPECIALTY POSITIONS FOR THAT. UM, IF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU, HAVING SOME OF THOSE, UH, IDEAS FROM YOU ON WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF WE DON'T START THINKING ABOUT THOSE NOW, OR I ASSUME THAT WE'RE DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT US TO DO, THEN I THINK I CAN, IT, IT WILL TAKE SOME, A LONG TIME TO FIX THOSE ERRORS. 'CAUSE SOME OF THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS WILL TAKE YEARS TO BUILD ON. AND IF WE, IF I GO IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DRAW IT BACK. SO ANY INPUT THAT YOU, WE CAN HAVE IN FUTURE MEETINGS, UM, OR IF YOU HAVE SOME NOW I'M HAPPY TO MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A POLL SENT TO US. AND THE CHIEF'S QUESTION, THIS IS REALLY GOOD. IT'S KIND OF A, UM, MOST DEPARTMENTS AS WELL, RIGHT? SO MAYBE, MAYBE THERE DOES NEED TO BE FURTHER QUESTIONING OF THE COUNCILS. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO LISTEN TO YOU AND THEN TAKE YOUR, ALL THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS AND COALESCE THEM INTO QUESTIONS OF THE BODY. BUT AS DEPARTMENTS, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND, AND THE MAYOR AND I ARE PLANNING TO DO SOME PRESENTATIONS ON WHERE WE'RE AT AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND THAT MAY BE A TIME TALK ABOUT THAT AS, AS I EDUCATE YOU ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE I I THINK WE CAN GO. THERE'S DEFINITELY SUPPLY. WELL, I'LL SAY THAT IN THE PAST, POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A LARGE PART OF THESE RETREAT CONVERSATIONS. MM-HMM . AND I THINK IT'S TO YOUR CREDIT AND CHIEF TON'S CREDIT THAT YOU'RE NOT MOSTLY IS YEAH. THAT LIKE, SO LIKE WE'RE NOT, UM, [03:20:01] WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THE DEFICIENCIES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS. AND I WANT TO JUST KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T BECOME DEFICIENT IN AREAS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. IF I, IF I HAD MY ONE, THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF IS, IS YEAH, MORE TRAFFIC WORK, I THINK IS EVERYTH GONNA BE A BAD THING? I IF I, IF I GOT A COMPLAINT RELATED TO POLICE DEPARTMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, IT CRACKED DOWN ON BEATING MY STREET. I CAN GO THE STREETS IF YOU WANT. BUT THE HARD THING ABOUT THAT IS THE PEOPLE SPEEDING ON THE STREETS ARE THE ONES WHO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS CRACKED DOWN ON MY ANNOYING PD KIDS. I THINK THERE'S GO, WE ON THIS COUNCIL, WE, IT GOES BY WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE SPECIALIZED TALENT TEAM, WE ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOWLEDGEABLE. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THE MEMBER OF OUR TEAM THAT GIVES US, THIS IS WHAT I KNOW THIS CITY NEEDS AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON YOU A LOT. IT WOULD BE, I'M JUST GONNA SAY IT WOULD BE PRETTY EGOTISTICAL OF ME FOR YOU TO TELL ME THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. AND I GO, NO, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIX THIS THING THAT I HAVE REALLY NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING. SO WE RELY ON ALL THE HEADS THAT WE HAVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE AMAZING HAVE TO REALLY GIVE US AN INSIGHT TO WHAT WE NEED. WE CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS THAT, THAT MAYBE WE THINK WE KNOW OR, OR JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT AND BE READY FOR THIS. BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SAYING, 'CAUSE I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE THINKING, KNOWING THERE'S A BUDGET I'VE GOTTA GO UNDER AND THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO BE IN WITHIN THIS BUDGET, BUT HERE'S SOME THINGS I WISH I COULD DO AND WHY. AND, AND THEN WE CAN START TO LOOK AT GOING, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT IS IMPORTANT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAYBE ARE SOME OF THESE OTHER, WHAT'S THE LESSER IMPORTANT THINGS YOU HAVE? COULD MAY, MAYBE WE SLIDE SOME OF THESE AROUND. BUT, UH, I JUST THOUGHT THAT BECAME ONE OF THE MOST APPARENT THINGS TO ME WHEN I JOINED THE, THE COUNCIL WAS I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN A LOT OF THINGS. AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY OUTREACH, YOU AS IMPORTANT. BUT BECAUSE ZACH IS SAYING, 'CAUSE WE AS A COUNSELOR, WE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT OUTREACH. WHAT WE HEAR IS, MY NEIGHBOR IS SPEEDING ON MY STREET. YOU GET A COP THERE EVERY DAY TO, TO STOP THAT. AND IN MY MIND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT COSTS AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE NOT DOING WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR NEIGHBOR, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO TELL YOUR NEIGHBOR TO STOP SPEEDING DOWN YOUR STREET? AND I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE AND THEY, I, SO WHO'S THE NEIGHBOR? AND I'VE GONE DOWN AND GO, HEY, SO I'M HEARING YOUR SPEECH. COULD WE MAYBE TONE IT DOWN? AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT? I DON'T SPEAK. I'M JUST SAYING, CAN WE ALL TAKE A LOOK? AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS I COULD WORK ON WITH IT. MATT, I WANNA KNOW, I WANNA HEAR FROM YOU IN A THING. OUTREACH IS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHAT THAT IS GOING TO DO FOR OUR CITY AND KIND OF GO, OH, WELL THERE'S AN EXPERT TELLING ME WHAT'S GOING ON AND I CAN NOW GET THE WHY TO IT AND I CAN FIND, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S WHAT I'D LOVE TO SEE FROM ALL IS WHAT, WHAT IS THE THING THAT'S GOING TO, UH, WHAT'S GONNA MAKE OUR CITY BETTER? I'VE SAID I DIDN'T, I'M NOT ON THE COUNCIL. MY JOB ON THE COUNCIL IS NOT TO GET REELECTED. MY JOB ON THE COUNCIL IS TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY. YOUR JOB IS TO NECESSARILY REMAIN CHIEF. YOUR JOB IS TO, WHILE YOUR CHIEF MAKE THIS THE BEST DEPARTMENT WE CAN AND, AND EVERYONE TELL US WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS DEPARTMENT BE THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO HELP SUPPORT. AND, AND I AGREE WITH BOB THOUGH. SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T SHOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHLY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE SOMEONE'S BEEN KILLED, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . BUT, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT MY CAR JUST GOT BROKEN TOO. AND, BUT I THINK WE CAN HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I AGREE WITH BOB. I THINK WHAT WE WANT YOU TO KEEP FOCUSING ON THINGS THAT WILL KEEP OUR RESIDENTS FEELING SAFE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHETHER THAT MEANS WE NEED TO ADD MORE OFFICERS OR IF THAT MEANS TECHNOLOGY, [03:25:01] IF THAT MEANS OUTREACH, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN? AND BECAUSE I LOVE IT WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA WORKS AND THEY SAY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GREAT, THEY HELP ME DO THIS. THEY HELP ME DO THAT. AND, AND I DON'T WANT US TO EVER GO TO THE NEGATIVE WHICH WE SEE IN OTHER AREAS. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING, IT'S WORKING, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF EXPENDING THE FUNDS ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I DO JUST HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE TO COOKIES WITH C AND ALL THOSE LITTLE THINGS AND THEY HAVE FUN. DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO LESS CRIME IN THE FUTURE? BECAUSE THOSE CHILDREN HAVE HAD PLASTIC INTERACTIONS. I'VE SEEN MIXED DATA, SO I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. HAVE YOU SEEN THE SAME DATA WITH COFFEE WITH THE COP? BECAUSE I, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE SIMILAR BUT MORE LIKE FOR ADULTS. ADULTS. ADULTS. YEAH, BECAUSE I, THERE WERE FEW RESIDENTS THERE. I MEAN, IT WASN'T LIKE HEAVILY ATTENDED, BUT IT WAS A GOOD PLACE FOR LIKE, YOU HAD A CONCERN AS A RESIDENT TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AN OFFICER AND THEY WERE, I MEAN, I ASKED, UH, OFFICER BROEL A MILLION QUESTIONS AND HE WAS GREAT. SO I'M LIKE, I IMAGINE THAT HE WOULD TREAT A RESIDENT. I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT TOOL, BUT I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WELL, I THINK EVERYTHING IN THIS CITY, WE CAN GET BETTER TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW, LET US KNOW. BECAUSE USUALLY A RESIDENT GETS UPSET BECAUSE THEY THINK OUR CITY'S NOT DOING SOMETHING. SOMETIMES THE CITY JUST DOES NOT KNOW THAT THIS IS YOUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS YOUR NEIGHBOR'S, YOU KNOW, TRAILER OR WHATEVER. THAT IS NOT THE CITY'S NUMBER ONE CONCERN. IT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN, BUT LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IF WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB IN MAKING SURE OUR RESIDENTS FEEL, NO MATTER WHAT DEPARTMENT THEY NEED TO REACH OUT FOR, THAT WE'RE ALL HERE TO HELP AND WE ARE, THEN I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB TO GET THAT GOING AND GET THAT, UH, BETTER FEELING CITIZENS, OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. I DON'T, I'M NOT , UH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT'S RIGHT. MOST OF THE TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS I HEAR FEEL LIKE WE ASKED THE CHIEF QUESTION. WE WON'T, WE WON'T TODAY. WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND, AND THAT'S OKAY. UM, MY, MY ONLY HOPE WAS THAT IF THERE WAS SOME GOAL THAT YOU HAD IN MIND THAT I KNEW ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PLANNING TO COME HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU. I WANNA LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AS A DEPARTMENT AND WHERE, WHERE YOU ARE GOING AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU, MY GOAL IS FOR YOU TO CREATE THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND YOU TELL US WHAT THAT IS. , ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS OTHER DEPARTMENTS MIGHT WANNA ASK? YEAH, WE'RE CLEAR BEFORE YOU ARE DONE TODAY, WHICH IS TWO MINUTES YOU SAY ANY OF YOU WANNA ASK, MAKE IT REAL FAST. , THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT THE LEAGUE HAVE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT OR, OR TALK TO US THE SAME THING WHEN I JUST SAID WE NEED PRESIDENTS TO REACH OUT. I I WANT OUR COUNCIL TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT WE'RE APPROACHABLE, UH, AND LET US KNOW WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE. BECAUSE AS, AS I, I SAID, I NEED THIS CITY TO BE THE BEST IT CAN BE AND COMMUNICATION AND WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM IS WHAT'S GONNA MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KIND OF GET, TEND TO GET TUNNEL VISION ON ABOUT, AND I'M GLAD SHE BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE THERE ARE OFFICES, POLICE DEPARTMENTS, HUGE PART OF THE BUDGET, RIGHT. POLICE SUPPLIER ARE MORE THAN HALF THE GENERAL FUND. COMBINE THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS. WATER SO BIG, IT HAS ITS OWN FUND, RIGHT. PUBLIC WORKS IS MASSIVE. UH, WE KIND OF HAD TODAY AND THE QUESTIONS WITH A, WITH A BASE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE MOSTLY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND HOW WE'RE MOSTLY PROVIDING CITY SERVICES. AND SO WE'RE STARTING WITH THE STATUS QUO AND THEN SAYING YES AND YEAH. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE CRACK DOWN ON THE NEIGHBORS MEETING. IS THAT WE? THAT'S IT. LUNCH IS HERE. OKAY. UH, EVERYONE YOU WANNA ASK US IF THE PILLARS ARE STILL RIGHT? I I THINK WE COULD DO THAT REAL QUICK. YEAH. WITH THE TWO NEW PEOPLE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. NO, I, WE DEBATED THAT A LOT AS WELL. WE HEARD SO MUCH FROM YOU YESTERDAY IN THESE AREAS. WE KIND OF TOOK IT AS AN ASSUMPTION THAT YOU STILL LIKE THESE AS THE PILLARS, BUT ARE THESE THE RIGHT FIVE PILLARS FOR THE BUDGET? IT'S NOTHING DIFFERENT HERE. IS THERE [03:30:01] EMPLOYEES ALWAYS ENDS UP BEING THE SINGLE BIGGEST BUDGET ISSUE, RIGHT? COMPENSATION, UH, HEALTHCARE BENEFITS. UM, IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING OR IS THERE ONE OF THESE YOU WANNA DROP IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING ELSE? THEY'RE GOOD. I THINK EMPLOYEES, WE FOCUSED, AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE KIND LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT QUESTION. WE FOCUSED A LOT ON THAT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND SO THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE TO RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM . WE, THESE DEPARTMENT COMPENSATION, FIRE DEPARTMENT COMPENSATION CROSSING GUARDS BEFORE THE HEALTH CENTER. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE, FIVE YEARS THAT HAVE CHECKED A LOT OF BOXES IN THAT CALL, WHICH I THINK IS WHY THERE WILL ALWAYS BE, UH, EVERY YEAR THERE WILL BE ISSUE. WE NEED TO, EXCEPT FOR SCOTT WHO'S APPARENTLY NO, NO, I, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE JUST I, SO I'VE, I'VE GOT A NEW EMPLOYEE STARTING IN A COUPLE WEEKS AND THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL HOURLY PAY CUT WOW. TO COME TO WORK FOR HERE FOR WEST JORDAN BECAUSE THEY LOOKED AT THE TOTAL COMPENSATION, SPECIFICALLY THE HEALTHCARE AND, AND THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE OFFER THAT THEIR OTHER CITY DID NOT. SO , IT, IT, IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WELL, THERE'S THE THING, YOU PROVIDE GOOD STUFF, YOU GET GOOD EMPLOYEES. I MEAN, THAT'S, WE, UH, WELL AND UNDER DENISE, WE DO THE, THE STUDIES ON OUR PAY MM-HMM . AND THAT'S A ROUTINE EMAIL. SO WE HAVE THE BEST EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE THE BEST MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES IN UTAH. AND IT'S, IT IS, UH, IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN MAKING THIS ONE OF THE . YEAH. I DON'T THINK NONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES SHOULD FEEL THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING UNDER THERE THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO US. IT'S LIKE, THAT SAID, WE HAS BEEN A FOCUS AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A FOCUS. WELL, IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE AS WE BRING YOU THE BUDGET, RIGHT. WITH THE CHANGES FOR COMPENSATION OR FROM THE BENEFIT PLAN OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO YOU MIGHT NOT NEED TO PUT ANYTHING DOWN THERE, BUT WE'LL BRING YOU THE BUDGET AND THEN IT, THEN YOUR JOB IS TO TAKE IT FORWARD. AND JUST BY YOUR APPROVING THOSE CHANGES OR WORKING ON THOSE CHANGES, UM, REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO EMPLOYEES. WE PUT SYSTEMS IN PLACE NOW LIKE THE ABSOLUTELY. SALARY REVIEW AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT A, A DISCUSSION WE HAVE TO KEEP HAVING PUT THE SYSTEM IN PLACE AND IT KIND OF PROPERTY. YEP. RIGHT. 100%. NOT HEARING ANYONE MAKE A CASE TO DROP OR TO ADD OR CHANGE. OKAY. AESTHETICS, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE IT KIND OF FITS WITHIN THE UMBRELLA OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY. I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. APPROACH . UNLESS AESTHETICS MEANS SOMETHING, I HAVE THAT COMMENT AS WELL. ANY EMPLOYEES BETTER START LOOKING. UH, I KNOW AESTHETICS HAS BEEN KIND OF LIKE A BIG FOCUS OF LET'S IMPROVE HOW OUR HOW THE CITY GOES AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, ENTERING THE CITY, UH, MAKE, MAKING SURE ALL THE WALLS ARE THE SAME COLOR AND THE SAME MATERIAL. UM, HAVING CONSISTENCY AND CLEANLINESS THROUGH THE CITY. BUT I, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S WITHIN COMMUNITY IDENTITY. I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I COULD BE WRONG WITH MAYBE, MAYBE IT NEEDS, MAYBE IT NEEDS ITS OWN. I THINK THAT, UM, AESTHETICS IS SIMILAR TO EMPLOYEES. SECOND, I YOU'VE WORKED ON EMPLOYEES FOR MANY YEARS NOW. IT'S KIND OF GOTTEN THERE. AESTHETICS, YOU JUST KIND OF STARTED HITTING THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH NEW QUOTE POST OFFICE OR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM. YEAH. UM, MORE MONEY TOWARDS AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC ART. RIGHT. THOSE WERE HUGE MOVES OF AESTHETICS AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE JUST CONTINUING THAT AS WE BRING, AS YOU EXPECT THE BUDGET TO COME TO YOU ALREADY. SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO EMPLOYEES. IT'S SOMETHING WE EXPECT FUNDED, MOVING FORWARD TO MAYBE BE IMPORTANT TO BE IMPORTANT. I WOULD SAY IF WE MOVED IT UNDER SOMETHING WE MIGHT LOSE SIGHT OF IT. YEAH. YEAH. GOOD FOR THIS DRAWS ATTENTION TO IT AND, AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WE FUNDED TWO, UH, TWO YEARS AGO. TWO YEARS AGO. YEAH. AND, UH, YEAH, WE DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I STILL CAN'T, I THINK THAT THESE ARE REALLY, UM, GREAT FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND HAVE A REPORT, A RETURN AND REPORT TO YOU FROM, UM, FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT ALSO A RETURN AND REPORT TO THE RESIDENTS. SO AS YOU FILL OUT THAT ANNUAL REPORT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOCUS ON THESE ARE THE PILLARS THAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON AS IMPORTANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE LAST YEAR. [03:35:04] THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. YEAH. I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, UH, ABOUT DONE THEN. SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF EVERYBODY. I APPRECIATE THE, OUR STAFF THAT, UH, US HERE TO BE A PART OF THIS. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL TAKE AWAY SOME GOOD STUFF. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE BUDGET'S GONNA BRING AND I FORWARD TO THIS NEW YEAR. , JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH. WOW. BEING WILLING TO JOIN THIS WE CIRCUS THAT WE HAVE. THANKS. AND, UH, WE'VE GOT LUNCHES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, SO TO HAVE A LUNCH ON YOUR WAY OUT AND, UH, WE'LL SEND ALONG AN EMAIL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AWAY A BUNCH OF TICKETS, UH, FOR YOUR STAFF TO COME OUT TO OUR, UH, WASATCH IMPROV PLACE THURSDAY. SO NATIONAL. YEAH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.