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EVERYBODY. COMMISSION PRE MEETING FOR APRIL 7TH, 2026. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE WOULD LIKE TO EXCUSE COMMISSIONERS GONZALES AND AKER WHO WILL NOT BE WITH US TODAY. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. AND FIRST ON OUR AGENDA IS MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MEETING? MINUTES FROM LAST TIME. NO. OKAY. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS. THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR ROCKY MOUNTAIN VALVES AND AUTOMATION. AND THAT LOOKS LIKE TAYLOR. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. THIS IS A SITE PLAN. PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR A LOT. LOCATED JUST OFF OF 5600 WEST. IT'S THERE NEXT TO THE ARCTIC CIRCLE AND COPPER HILLS HIGH SCHOOL. EXISTING LOT. AND IT'S BEEN KIND OF ABANDONED FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT'S ACCESS USED TO BE OFF OF 5600 WEST. BUT WHEN THAT ROAD GOT REALIGNED, THEY NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS OFF OF THAT. SO THEY CAN ONLY COME THROUGH THE SHARED ACCESS WITH ARCTIC CIRCLE. SO THAT'S BEEN A REAL DIFFICULT LOT TO GET ANY SORT OF COMMERCIAL ON. SO THEY'VE SETTLED ON IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'VE GOT A PROJECT WHICH SHOULD WORK REALLY GOOD THERE. AND YEAH, WE'RE EXCITED. YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ACCESS. AND NO, I DON'T MOST THEY ARE RETAILER, BUT THEY RETAIL PRIMARILY TO LIKE LARGE BUSINESSES AND MUNICIPALITIES. SO IT'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC FROM THE PUBLIC. AND SO WE'RE NOT EXPECTING A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC TO COME THROUGH THE SITE, ESPECIALLY NOT THE BIG SEMI TRUCKS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. THEIR, THEIR DELIVERY TRUCKS THAT WILL BRING STUFF AND LEAVE IS JUST A BOX TRUCK. SO NOT EVEN A FULL SEMI. OKAY.

THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I EVEN HAD WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT ONE BECAUSE I THOUGHT, YEAH, ARCTIC CIRCLE AND THAT'S OKAY. GOOD. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT? OKAY. THE NEXT WILL BE OUR. SANDRA'S PLACE ON 1490 WEST 8600 SOUTH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN.

MARK. YEAH. SO THIS IS A NEW SUBDIVISION COMING IN ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 8600 SOUTH AND 1500 WEST. SO THE LOT RIGHT NOW IS JUST A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THERE WITH A LOT OF VACANT LAND THAT THEY WANT TO TURN INTO A SUBDIVISION OF SIX LOTS, ALL FRONTING A PRIVATE LANE. SO AND THEN THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A ROAD DEDICATION ON THAT CORNER OF 86TH AND 15TH, JUST TO KIND OF FINISH THAT OUT AND DEDICATE THAT PORTION TO THE CITY AND FINISH OUT THE SIDEWALK. SO. YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARK? OKAY.

LAST ON THE AGENDA IS NATURAL'S TRAINING FACILITY AND TAYLOR. YEAH. THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIR.

THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR INDOOR RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S IN A C G ZONE. IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE ZONE. THE PROPOSED USE IS FOR A BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITY. SO PRIMARILY BATTING AND FIELDING WORK HOURS KIND OF WILL VARY BASED ON WHEN THEY NEED AVAILABILITY. CAN HAVE UP TO 14 PEOPLE THERE AT A TIME, BUT THEY INDICATE MOST OF THE TIME THEY'LL JUST BE 2 TO 4 PEOPLE THERE. SO LOOKING AT CONDITIONS, THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT NOISE AND EVERYTHING. SO WE'VE ADDED THE CONDITION THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, COMPLY WITH COUNTY HEALTH REGULATIONS AROUND NOISE. THERE'S A FEW CONDITIONS REGARDING MAKING SURE THE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN THE FACILITY ISN'T ATTACHED TO ANY OF THE NETS FOR THE BATTING CAGES, AND THAT THEY WILL BE PROTECTED FROM ANY BALLS SO THAT THOSE SYSTEMS AREN'T DAMAGED, AS WELL AS THE CONDITION THAT THERE IS ALWAYS A RESPONSIBLE ADULT AVAILABLE THERE. WELL, THE YOUTH ARE USING THE FACILITY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONER MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TAYLOR. THIS TIME, JUST TO LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW BEFORE WE START THE MEETING. THE MAYOR DID RECEIVE QUITE A FEW EMAILS ON THIS ONE. I KNOW EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE ONE EMAIL, RIGHT?

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THERE WAS ONE EMAIL THAT CAME BACK IN MARCH, LIKE MARCH 25TH. YES. SO ANYWAY, THERE WAS ONE THAT I SAW, BUT APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ONES TOO. SO ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A RECORDING IN PROGRESS. WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO THE WEST JORDAN

[Regular Meeting]

PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR APRIL 7TH, 2026. WE'D LIKE TO EXCUSE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ THIS EVENING, AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ZACHER AND ALLEN ON THE LINE. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND SCOTLAND IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THAT. IF YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND REPEAT THE PLEDGE AFTER ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY, FIRST ON THE AGENDA.

[a. Approve Minutes from March 17, 2026]

SECOND ITEM IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION OR ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, IF NOBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[a. Rocky Mountain Valves & Automation; 8689 South 5600 West ; Preliminary Site Plan; Brad Deaver (Rocky Mountain Valves & Automation) (Applicant)[Tayler Jensen/Nate Nelson/Angelica Haro #35261 Parcel 26-01-100-023-0000]]

OKAY, THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. NEXT IS THE CONSENT OR THE BUSINESS ITEMS. AND THIS FIRST ITEM IS ROCKY MOUNTAIN VALVES AND AUTOMATION 8689 SOUTH 5600 WEST. IT'S A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. AND BRAD DEAVER. IF YOU'RE NOT READY, JUST STATE YOUR NAME. BUT OKAY. YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TONIGHT. IT'S MY FIRST TIME ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, SO IF WE HAVE ANY TOUGH QUESTIONS, WE'LL SAVE THEM FOR THE ARCHITECT. AND IN MY FATHER BACK HERE WHO I GUESS JUST TO KIND OF INTRODUCE MYSELF, BRAD DEAVER AND ROCKY MOUNTAIN VALVE IS A FAMILY OWNED COMPANY. MY FATHER STARTED THE BUSINESS BACK IN 2008 BY HIMSELF AND STARTED IN A LITTLE ONE MAN OFFICE IN SANDY. AND FROM THAT POINT, WE'VE GROWN TO ABOUT 16 EMPLOYEES, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN SALT LAKE CITY OFF CALIFORNIA AVENUE, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC UP THERE, A LOT OF TRANSIENT PEOPLE. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO TO MOVE NOW THAT WE'VE WE'VE EXPERIENCED SOME GROWTH. SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT I'M A PART OF THAT BUSINESS AND, AND GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RELOCATE MAYBE TO LIKE A SAFER AREA. I'M A RESIDENT OF WEST JORDAN AND I LIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT WEST OF THIS LOT THAT WE'VE WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 8689 SOUTH 5600 WEST. SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ARCTIC CIRCLE RIGHT THERE, IT'S JUST A LOT RIGHT BETWEEN THE LDS SEMINARY BUILDING AND THE ARCTIC CIRCLE. AND SO I LIVE THERE AND I SAW THAT LOT AVAILABLE AND I THOUGHT, HEY, WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT IF OUR COMPANY COULD MOVE A LITTLE CLOSER TO HOME? I KNOW THAT'D BE IT'D BE GREAT FOR ME AND GREAT FOR A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OF JUST THE AREA WE'RE CURRENTLY IN. SO WHAT WE DO FOR BUSINESS IS WE SELL WATERWORKS, VALVES AND EQUIPMENT MAINLY TO COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS, WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION AND CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES. SO WEST JORDAN CITY IS A IS A CUSTOMER OF OURS. A LOT OF THE WATER CONSERVANCY DISTRICTS, JORDAN VALLEY WATER CONSERVANCY DISTRICTS, WE WE WHOLESALE EQUIPMENT TO THEM. AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE TRAINING AND OTHER AND OTHER THINGS. SO OUR PLAN AND OUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO BUILD ON THIS SITE AND PUT A OFFICE, RETAIL AND RETAIL STORAGE FACILITY THERE THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 16,000FT■!S OF COMBINATION BETWEEN BETWEEN THOSE THOSE THREE THINGS, OFFICE, RETAIL AND RETAIL STORAGE. CURRENTLY, THE ZONING IS PC PLAN COMMUNITY, WHICH BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE RELOCATION THAT'S HAPPENED WITH THE ROAD, THEIR GRISLY WAY. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUR INTENT IS TO PURCHASE THIS FROM THE CREDIT UNION THAT'S HAD

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SOME SOME CHANGE OF HEART AS FAR AS PUTTING A BRANCH OR A LOCATION THERE. SO PLANNED COMMUNITY, WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE WE FIT WITHIN THAT ZONING AS A SMALL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AND IN THAT RETAIL IN THE OFFICE PLANT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, WE FEEL LIKE WE STILL MEET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS THERE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TAKEN INTO RESPECT THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SEMINARY BUILDING. AND WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF PUT THE BUILDING AS FAR AWAY AS WE CAN FROM SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING HOMES AND SCHOOL AND PLACE IT ON THE NORTH SIDE AS FAR AS POSSIBLE TO KEEP IT KIND OF AWAY FROM THE FROM THE RESIDENTS. OUR BUSINESS HOURS ARE, ARE PRETTY STANDARD, 8 TO 5. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET SOME TRUCKS AND SOME CITIES THAT COME IN FOR SOME DELIVERIES FROM CONTRACTORS, BUT WE'RE NOT WE DON'T DO A LOT OF BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. PARKING WOULD BE SCREENED FROM GRIZZLY WAY FROM 8200 SOUTH BY THE NEW BUILDING, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE ANY OF THE PARKED CARS OR TRUCKS FROM THE ROAD. YOU WOULD SEE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, COREY THE ARCHITECT, AND BEN AND I, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD SOME INTENTIONALITY AS FAR AS THE DESIGN. THE BRICK GOES ON THE, ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT TO MAKE IT LOOK ATTRACTIVE FROM THAT, FROM THAT GRIZZLY WAY, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DAY IN, DAY OUT CUSTOMERS, WE STILL WANT TO MAKE THE BUILDING ATTRACTIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY WELL WITH, WITH A VERY ATTRACTIVE BUILDING. PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY. VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WOULD CONNECT THROUGH THE ARCTIC ARCTIC CIRCLE DRIVEWAY OFF OF 5600 WEST. SO THIS IS THIS IS OUR PLAN. THIS IS THIS IS OUR INTENTION. WE'D BE PROUD TO MOVE OUR BUSINESS INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND PROUD TO, TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR BUSINESS WITH THE THE HELP AND SUPPORT OF WEST JORDAN. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE ONE JUST ONE. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS GREAT. DO YOU HAVE YOU ALREADY HAVE LIKE AN EASEMENT ACROSS THE ARCTIC CIRCLE PROPERTY OR HOW DO YOU GET ACCESS THROUGH THERE? I THINK THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING EASEMENT AND DRIVEWAY THROUGH THAT PROPERTY THAT CONNECTS ONTO THIS, THIS LOCATION, THIS PROPERTY, THIS LOT ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ARCTIC CIRCLE. SO WOULD IT BE THAT SHARED DRIVEWAY? BUT IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING EASEMENT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, WE'LL CALL YOU UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU. TAYLOR. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. I THINK BRAD DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE PROJECTS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL. I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT THESE USES ARE ALL PERMITTED USES IN THE PC ZONE. SO NOT ONLY ARE THEY APPROPRIATE, BUT YES, OUR ZONING SAYS THEY'RE APPROPRIATE THERE AS WELL. WE DID TAKE THIS TO OUR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS WELL. NEXT STEPS FOR THIS, IF IT GETS APPROVED TONIGHT WOULD BE A FINAL SITE PLAN, WHICH IS A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL AS WELL AS A BUILDING PERMIT, WHICH IS A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS WITH RECOMMENDED MOTION IS ON THE BOARD, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES JUST TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND. AND IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, STAR NINE. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP FOR COMMENT. AND OUR MOTIONS TO THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH, IF THERE IS NO COMMENTS OR OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A SITE PLAN FOR ROCKY MOUNTAIN VALVES AND AUTOMATION, LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 8689 SOUTH, 5600 WEST, SUBJECT TO ALL REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL. OKAY, COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. WELCOME TO WEST JORDAN. OKAY. NEXT IS SANDRA'S PLACE AT 1490

[b. Sandra’s Place; 1490 West 8600 South; Preliminary Subdivision Plat (6 lots on 1.47 acres); R-1-8 Zone; Wixom Investments, LLC/Brandon Wixom (applicant) [Mark Forsythe/Nate Nelson/Angelica Haro/Mike Jensen; #35168; parcel 21-34-480-016]]

WEST 8600 SOUTH OF PULMONARY SUBDIVISION. PLAT SIX LOTS ON 1.47 ACRES AND R1 EIGHT ZONE.

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AND IT LOOKS LIKE BRANDON WIXOM. THANK YOU JERRY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD SIX LOT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THAT CAN. IT COMPLIES WITH THE CURRENT ZONING. IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED BY OR FOR APPROVAL BY THE STAFF. MY NAME IS BRANDON WIXOM. I'M WITH WIXOM INVESTMENTS. AND YOU MENTIONED THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY IS 1490 WEST 8600 SOUTH. WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE STAFF THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR INPUT AND THEIR HELP. THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

I'LL JUST COVER A FEW THINGS. THE GENERAL PLAN, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE. IT'S ALREADY ZONED R18 AND IT'S BEEN APPROVED THAT WAY.

IT'S LOW DENSITY. IT FITS THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE WELL AS FAR AS ACCESS AND TRAFFIC. YOU CAN COME IN FROM 8600 SOUTH OR 1500 WEST, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A PRIVATE LANE THAT WILL GO BACK TO THE DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS OF THE OF THE SIX LOTS, IT MEETS THE FIRE AND THE CITY STANDARDS. WE'VE, WE'VE MET WITH EVERYBODY AND TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND IT WILL HAVE MINIMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT IF THERE'S ONLY SIX HOMES, UTILITIES AND DRAINAGE. THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS HERE. ALL THE UTILITIES ARE IN DOWN 8600 SOUTH. THEY ACTUALLY JUST PUT YOUR CITY PUT A NEW WATER LINE IN. SO EVERYTHING'S IN THE STREET. WE'VE DESIGNED TO THE CITY STANDARDS. WE'RE AWARE OF SOME EXISTING CONCERNS THE AREA HAS REGARDING DRAINAGE. THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST AND THE SOUTH THAT I THINK THERE'S SOME SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. WE SPECIFICALLY HAD ENGINEERS LOOK AT THIS AND WE DESIGNED IT IN A WAY TO MANAGE OUR STORMWATER ON SITE. WE HAVE RETENTION AND DETENTION INCLUDED, AND ALL THE OVERFLOW IS DIRECTED TO 1500 WEST TO THE SYSTEM THERE. SO IT WON'T EVEN IMPACT ANYBODY, ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT ARE HAVING OTHER ISSUES FROM, FROM SOME TYPE OF DRAINAGE. WE'VE REVIEWED THIS WITH THE CITY PLANNER AND THE CITY ENGINEER, AND IT APPEARS THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH IT. WE'RE WILLING TO MEET ANY OF THE CITY STANDARDS AND COMPLY WITH ANY CONDITIONS THAT WE GET. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR SANDERS PLACE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. ANDERSON? THE DRAINAGE QUESTIONS ARE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP. IS THAT THE IS YOUR GROUND HIGHER THAN THEIRS? AND SO THEY'RE WORRIED THAT YOU DRAIN DOWN ONTO THEM. YEAH, WE COULD HAVE THE ENGINEERS DISCUSS A BIT, BUT BASICALLY THERE'S A LOW AREA IN THE BACKYARDS. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO REDIRECT THE ROAD. SO ALL THE THE DRAINAGE THAT FALLS ON THE PRIVATE LANE AND THE FRONT YARDS AND DRIVEWAYS WILL ALL GO SOUTH AND TOWARDS 1500 WEST. THAT WILL ALL GO THAT DIRECTION AND THE OVERFLOW WILL RETAIN IT. AND THEN THE OVERFLOW WILL GO INTO THAT SYSTEM. AND THEN IN THE BACKYARDS WE ACTUALLY HAVE, WE'RE RETAINING ALL OF OUR WATER THERE TOO. SO IT WILL NOT IMPACT ANYTHING TO THE EAST. AND WE'RE RAISING UP THE GROUND A LITTLE BIT IN THE BACK SO THAT WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY, THANKS. SO THERE IS A RETENTION BASIN THERE THEN THAT YOU YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE FURTHER DRAINAGE OR. YEAH. SO IT'S MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. AND I DO HAVE MY ENGINEER HERE TONIGHT THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE HIM COME UP AND WE COULD ASK THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY QUESTION IS IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL DRAINAGE SYSTEM OTHER THAN JUST DIVERTING WHATEVER IS HIGHER TO THE 15TH WEST. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE A, A HOLDING POND OR SOMETHING THERE THAT YEAH, THERE'S A FEW WE CAN GO BACK TO THE, DO WE HAVE THAT ON ANYTHING MARKED? OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. SO THERE AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME ON THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TOO. THIS IS DEL. LET'S HAVE HIM DEL BENCHMARK ENGINEERING. SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD SOME SUMPS AND STUFF GOING OVER THERE WITH THE OVERFLOW INTO THE IRRIGATION LINE, STORM DRAIN LINE. BUT WE'VE MODIFIED THE PLAN SO THAT ALL THE WATER FROM THE PRIVATE LANE, THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE FRONT OF THE FRONT OF THE HOMES ARE ALL GOING TO DRAIN TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SYSTEM ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT SOUTHWEST LOT. AND THEN THAT WHEN THAT IF THAT OVERFLOWS THE 100 YEAR STORM, IT'LL GO INTO THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM IN 1500 WEST. SO THE ONES ON THE EAST NOW ARE JUST SWALES TO HOLD THE BACKYARD WATER IS ALL IT IS. OKAY. SO YEAH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP

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AFTER. THANK YOU. OKAY. MARK. YES. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO REALLY QUICK JUST TO GO OVER THE ZONING, AS MR. WIXOM SAID, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN R1 EIGHT ZONE. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR. LAST NOVEMBER. AND IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE, WHICH THE APPLICANT PLANS TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON SIX LOTS. IT REQUIRES 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUMS AND LOTS THAT ARE AT LEAST 75FT WIDE. SO GOING TO THE SUBDIVISION PLAN HERE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND ON THE LOT SIZE. SO THESE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY RANGING FROM 9000 TO 10,000FT■!S. IN FACT, MOST OF THEM EXCEPT FOR ONE IS OVER 10,000FT■!S. SO A LOT OF THAT'S REALLY KIND OF NEEDED FOR THE FOR THIS, THE PRIVATE LANE THERE, BUT THEY'RE A LOT, EXCUSE ME, THERE LOT WIDTH IS ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM OF 75FT. SO THESE RANGE FROM ABOUT 98 TO 110FT. IT'S A BIT WIDER. THEN THE BUILDING SETBACKS ALL THOSE ARE GOING TO BE FROM THE PROPERTY LINES, INCLUDING THE FRONT PROPERTY LINES, WHICH PRETTY MUCH RUN THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE PRIVATE LANES. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL IN THAT REGARD, JUST SINCE THE PRIVATE LANE IS BEING ESTABLISHED THROUGH EASEMENT, RATHER THAN A PARCELED OUT PARCEL. AND THEN THE PRIVATE ROAD THAT'LL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY AN HOA, IT'S GOING TO BE 26FT WIDE FROM GUTTER TO GUTTER. AND THEN WITH A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE WEST SIDE THERE, THAT'LL ACTUALLY TIE INTO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK. THERE'LL BE A VERY, VERY SMALL SECTION OF PUBLIC SIDEWALK BUILT DOWN IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. SO THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AND FINISHED OFF TO COMPLETE THAT SECTION OF OF THE 8600 SOUTH AND 1500 WEST INTERSECTION THERE. OTHER THAN THAT, FIRE DEPARTMENTS LOOKED AT THE PRIVATE LANE AND FOUND IT TO BE BE COMPLIANT WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS. THEY DO REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE OF THE NARROW WIDTH, THAT IT'S GOING TO NEED TO RESTRICT PARKING TO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, SO AT LEAST ONE SIDE WILL NEED TO HAVE NO PARKING SIGNS. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS KEPT CLEAR IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.

SO ONE THING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD KNOW THAT, AGAIN, WITH THIS BEING A PRIVATE LANE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THOSE IN LIEU OF A PUBLIC ROAD, AS LONG AS THEY MEET CERTAIN CONDITIONS. SO ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS IS THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE FEEL THIS IS. IT'S SURROUNDED BY PREEXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO THERE'S REALLY NO CONNECTION TO ANYWHERE ELSE AS FAR AS ROADS ARE CONCERNED. AND THEN AGAIN, THAT SECOND CRITERIA IS THAT IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO PUBLIC ROADS. SO IN THIS CASE, IT WOULDN'T. THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT WOULD NEED TO MEET SOME SORT OF TOPOGRAPHICAL HARDSHIP, WHICH WE FEEL IT DOES. SO THERE'S TWO SCENARIOS THAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT PUBLIC ROADS, WHICH THE WAY THE ROAD 8600 SOUTH AND 1500 WEST ALIGN WITH EACH OTHER, IT REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A PUBLIC ROAD TO BE BUILT, AT LEAST NOT WITHOUT TAKING A CHUNK OF THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY EITHER TO THE WEST OR TO THE SOUTH, WHICH BY DOING SO, IT ACTUALLY BRING THOSE LOTS OUT OF CONFORMANCE IN TERMS OF LOT SIZE AND LOT WIDTHS. SO, SO WE FEEL THAT A PRIVATE ROAD IS REALLY THE, THE ONLY OPTION HERE AS FAR AS FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY ORDINANCES. SO THAT AND NOT SEVERELY IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORS. SO AND AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS ARE CONCERNED, THE APPLICANT WOULD JUST NEED TO APPLY FOR OUR FINAL MAJOR SUBDIVISION. THAT'S ALL REVIEWED AND APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, GET THE FLIGHT RECORDED AND START ISSUING BUILDING PERMITS FOR HOMES, HOPEFULLY. SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, THE PRELIMINARY MAJOR SUBDIVISION AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH? OKAY. SO CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT GRAPHIC THAT SHOWED THE SWELL? AND WHERE WOULD THOSE BE LOCATED? AGAIN,

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JUST FOR MY EDUCATION HERE. I'LL TRY AND DRAW IT FOR YOU. OKAY. OH, RIGHT THROUGH THERE.

OKAY. WE'LL JUST HAVE THE BACKWATER, THE ACTUAL WATER FROM THE STORM DRAIN OR FROM THE ROAD OR FROM THE PRIVATE LANE AND THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE FRONT OF THE YARDS WILL GO THAT LAST ONE, LAST ONE IN THE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT LOT. AND THEN WHEN IT, IT'LL GO INTO THERE, IT'LL HOLD THE STORM AND THEN IT'LL OVERFLOW INTO 1500 WEST STREET. OKAY. SO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE SWALES? SO THAT WOULD BE THE HOA. WELL, LET'S SEE, THE SWALES WOULD BE ON THE PRIVATE LOT. SO MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD BE ON THE HOMEOWNERS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALL THE LANDOWNERS TO MAINTAIN THAT. SO THEY'LL BE PROHIBITED FROM PLANTING PLANTS IN THOSE SOILS. YEAH. AS LONG AS IT HAS TO MEET, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE SWALES. SO YEAH, THERE'LL ALSO BE A 15 FOOT STORM DRAIN EASEMENT THERE AS WELL. SO IT'S WHILE IT TECHNICALLY WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO BUILD A STRUCTURE, IT WOULD BE SEVERELY DISCOURAGED AS FAR AS MESSING WITH DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE CITY IF THEY WERE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO BUILD SOMETHING BACK THERE. YEAH, I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, LIKE PLANTING TREES AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN THE SWALE ITSELF, WHICH WOULD HINDER THE MOVEMENT OF WATER OR THE RETENTION OF WATER? SO WHAT WHAT COMPELS THE HOMEOWNERS TO MAINTAIN THOSE SWELLS? SWELLS? EXCUSE ME. SO IT'S LARGELY JUST THAT THAT EASEMENT. BUT AS FAR AS PLANTING TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT WE AS A CITY CAN DO TO, TO STOP THAT. BUT IF IT CREATES SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE ISSUES, WE CAN CERTAINLY STEP IN AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO REMEDIATE THAT. OKAY, THERE'LL BE TWO TWO SUMPS CONNECTED BY A PERFORATED PIPE UNDERGROUND. SO A LOT OF THE WATER WILL BE UNDERGROUND. THE SWALES ON TOP WILL JUST DIRECT THE WATER INTO THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM, AND THEN THAT'LL OVERFLOW DIRECTLY INTO THE STORM DRAIN. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND ON THE PHONE. STAR NINE THERE'S A TY JOHNSON ONLINE THAT'S RAISED HIS HAND. OKAY, MR. JOHNSON. ALL RIGHT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES WE CAN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. FANTASTIC. I'M A HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNER TO THE EAST OF THE WHERE THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY IS GOING IN. AND A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT TO CLARIFY. THE HOMES ALL AROUND HERE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING AROUND ARE ALL ALMOST A HALF ACRE AND BIGGER. SO REALLY, THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOVE SIX HOMES INTO A LOT. SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE 3 TO 4. AND I'M SURE YOU PICKED UP ON THAT BY THE ROAD GOING IN AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ISSUES AND ONLY PARKING ON ONE SIDE. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS THERE IS AN IRRIGATION DITCH THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT ACTUALLY IS CULVERTS AND COMES THROUGH MY BACKYARD AND THEN POPS IN THROUGH AUTOMOTIVE CIRCLE AND RUNS DOWN AS THIS BEING ADDRESSED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AS WELL. AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? OKAY, WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. ARE YOU DONE OR ARE YOU? YEAH. I'M DONE. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR MOTIONS. AND I DON'T KNOW, MARK, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT COMMENT, I'LL DO MY BEST SINCE I'M NOT A UTILITY ENGINEER, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM FROM OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS THAT THAT IRRIGATION LINE IS A PRIVATE LINE. WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHO MAINTAINS THAT, BUT YEAH, AS FAR AS AS FAR AS THAT LINE GOES AND AS FAR AS THIS SUBDIVISION IS CONCERNED,

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THEY'RE REALLY PRETTY MUCH LEAVING THAT ALONE, LEAVING IT AS IS. SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A PLAN TO MAYBE TIE IN THE STORM DRAIN AND PUNCH IT OUT TO FURTHER TO THE EAST, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST TOO COSTLY AND TOO INTRUSIVE ON THE NEIGHBORS. SO IF WE FIGURE THE BEST SOLUTION WAS TO JUST RUN EVERYTHING DOWN TO 1500 WEST AND IT IS ALREADY ZONED AS A18, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I JUST I MEAN, AS A AS A COMMENT, I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC'S CONCERN, BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT SINCE IT'S ALREADY ZONED R18, THAT WAS A THAT WAS A CITY COUNCIL DECISION, NOT A PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION. SO AS LONG AS IT MEETS OUR OR MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR R18, WE'RE YOU KNOW, OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON THE THE LOT SIZES. BUT I WILL NOTE THAT AT LEAST FROM GOOGLE MAPS, IT DOES LOOK LIKE HE'S CORRECT THAT THE ONES TO THE EAST APPEAR TO BE HALF ACRES, BUT THE ONES TO THE SOUTH, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HALF ACRES. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S KIND OF A MIXTURE THERE OF SOME SOME THIRDS HALVES AND MAYBE EVEN QUARTERS. SO BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS A CITY COUNCIL DECISION, NOT US. CORRECT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO PUT THEIR $0.02 IN. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I WILL MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY MAJOR SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR SANDRA'S PLACE, LOCATED AT 1490 WEST 8600 SOUTH IN AN R1 EIGHT ZONE. WITH THE CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. MR. ANDERSON. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. AND, CHAIR, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, A LOT OF TIMES IN PAST MEETINGS, YOU'VE INDICATED THAT IF NOBODY VOTES NO, IF THEY'RE ONLINE, YOU'VE GOT TWO COMMISSIONERS ONLINE, THEN THEY'RE DEEMED TO HAVE VOTED YES. THAT'S STILL YOUR INSTRUCTION TONIGHT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YOUR PRACTICE SHOULD HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR.

I'M SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT. BUT YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CARRIES POSITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS. SIX NOTHING. OKAY. NEXT IS THE NATURALS TRAINING FACILITY 8901

[c. Naturals Training Facility; 8901 South 1300 West; Conditional Use Permit (CUP); C-G (General Commercial) Zone; Chris Anderton (Applicant)[Tayler Jensen/Mike Jensen, #35325 Parcel #27-02-152-016-0000]]

SOUTH 1300 WEST. A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE. AND CHRIS ANDERSON. YEAH.

HOW ARE YOU. GOOD. SO THE, THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ON 8901 SOUTH 13TH HUNTER. IT'S THAT USED TO BE HAGA MATTRESS. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MATTRESS FOREVER, WHAT I WAS TOLD BEFORE ANYWAY, BUT IT'S DIVIDED INTO FOUR PARCEL OR FOUR SUITES, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. AND IT ONE IS A RECOVERY CENTER, ONE IS A VACUUM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS A AUTOMOTIVE PLACE. SO WHAT WE WANT ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS TO DO.

WE CALLED IT NATURALS TRAINING FACILITY BECAUSE MY, MYSELF AND MY PARTNER ROBERT WINTERHALDER, WE COACH A GIRLS TEAM AND A BOYS TEAM AND THEY'RE CALLED THE NATURALS. SO WE JUST SAID WE'D HAVE A HOME PLACE FOR THEM TO GO AND TRAIN. AND THEN WHEN WE FIRST RENTED IT, WE JUST THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND JUST USE IT FOR PRACTICE IN THE WINTER, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN USING THE BASEBALL FACILITY AND IN MIDVILLE THE BASEBALL HOUSE, AND IT WAS WAY OVER RUNDOWN AND TOO MANY TEAMS AND TOO MANY PEOPLE, AND THE EQUIPMENT WAS SORT OF LIKE, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THIS OURSELVES? SO WE DECIDED TO, WE FOUND THIS LOCATION THROUGH BRAD AND WE IT'S PERFECT LAYOUT. SO WHERE WE COULD, WE WENT AHEAD AND WENT IN AND PAINTED IT AND PUT IN A PAD ON THE TURF ON THE FLOOR OR PUT. NETS JUST MADE IT ALL SAFE FOR THE KIDS. SO IT'S PRIMARILY FOR 10 TO 18 YEAR OLDS, BOYS AND GIRLS, AND BOTH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL. YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR. THERE'S A LOT OF THEM AROUND. THERE'S THE HIT HIT LAB IN WEST JORDAN DOES THE SAME THING, BUT IT'S ABOUT HALF THE SIZE. IT HAS THE SAME. IT'S LITERALLY ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SETUP. IT HAS TWO CAGES AND A IT HAS A 20 BY 20 SECTION THERE. THERE'S THE ONE IN MIDVILLE, THE BASEBALL HOUSE DE BATS. THERE'S QUITE A FEW. THERE'S JUST NOT ONE REALLY, BESIDES THE HIT LAB IN WEST JORDAN. SO THERE'S JUST A TON OF TEAMS AROUND HERE. AND REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS IN THE WINTER. SO IN THE WINTER, IF THESE BOYS AND GIRLS WANT TO

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KEEP IF THEY WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, THEY GOT TO PLAY ALL YEAR LONG. THEY HAVE TO KEEP PRACTICING. SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOME SPORTS WHERE YOU DON'T JUST GO A COUPLE MONTHS AND WORK ON YOUR CRAFT, TAKE IT OFF AND COME BACK IF YOU'RE GOING TO. IT'S SUCH A COMPETITIVE MARKET THAT FOR BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS THAT THEY NEED TO TRAVEL, TRAIN TO THE WINTER. SO WE.

THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS TO. SO THAT BOYS AND GIRLS CAN TRAIN IN THERE. WE'RE NEW TO THE WHOLE THING WITH. I'M NEW TO THE, THE THE TRAINING FACILITY. I'M NOT NEW TO BUSINESS. I OWN A RESTAURANT, A MOTEL IN ROOSEVELT. I SOLD THAT A YEAR AGO. I HAD THAT FOR 19 YEARS. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I RAN MY OWN BUSINESS. AND SO I RETIRED AND MY DAUGHTER HAD IS A 17 YEAR OLD AND PLAYS ON THE NATURALS TEAM THAT'S OUT OF MURRAY HERE. SO I THOUGHT, WELL, I HAVE THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY, SO LET'S, LET'S DO IT. WE WE MADE SOME MISTAKES.

I'LL SAY THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WE HAD TEAMS IN A TEAM IN THERE PRACTICING AND THEY RAN THE STEREOS TOO LOUD. AND SO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND CAME AND COMPLAINED, TALKED TO ME. I SAID I'D ADDRESS IT. I GUESS IT HAPPENED AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT TEAM AND ROB IN THERE. SO THEN WE JUST REMOVE THE RADIOS. SO IT'S JUST WHEN KIDS ARE HITTING, THEY WANTED TO LISTEN TO MUSIC.

SO REMOVE THE RADIOS. WE WE REALLY TRIED TO PUT A LOT INTO THE BUILDING JUST TO CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT BETTER SO THAT WE CAN KEEP, KEEP OUR YOUTH ACTIVE AND KEEP THEM AWAY FROM DOING OTHER THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING AND BE. AND, AND MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE THE MAX, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE IS 10 TO 12 KIDS WITH 2 TO 3 COACHES. A LOT OF THE TIME IT'S JUST 2 OR 3 PEOPLE, A COACH AND A KID, AND THEY'RE JUST WORKING ON HITTING IN THE CAGE OR GROUNDERS. AND SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR THE YOUTH TO WHERE THEY CAN KEEP THEM ACTIVE IN THE WINTER, MOSTLY IN THE SUMMER, PROBABLY WE'LL HAVE HARDLY ANY BUSINESS BECAUSE EVERYONE'S OUTSIDE IN THE FIELDS. SO AND SO WE HOPE TO SEE IF WE HOPE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO DO THE TRAINING FACILITY IN THERE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ANDERSON? ARE YOU TAKING THE ENTIRE BUILDING OR JUST ONE SECTION? JUST ONE SECTION OF IT.

SO THE, THE IT'S DIVIDED INTO THERE'S A HE, A TAYLOR PROBABLY HAS THE MAP, BUT IT'S TURNED A LITTLE BIT SIDEWAYS. BUT THERE'S, IT'S THE BUILDING ITSELF IS ABOUT THE, THE BACK PART OF THE WAREHOUSE IS 12,000FT■!S. I THINK IT'S IN 400 SQUARE FOOT PARCELS. AND WE HAVE THE ONE ON THE VERY LEFT SIDE THAT HAS ITS OWN DOOR, AND IT'S A 4000FT■!S. IS THERE MUCH NOISE FROM THE BASEBALL ACTIVITY APART FROM THE STEREOS? NO. OKAY. NOT THERE'S MORE NOISE FROM BARBECUES IN THE BACKYARD OF NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE THAN THERE IS FROM THE NOISE IN THE THE FACILITY IN THERE. OKAY. AND THE NEIGHBORS, THE THE NEIGHBORING UNITS, HAVE THEY EVER COMPLAINED? THEY DID ABOUT THE STEREOS? AND THAT'S WHAT WE ADDRESSED IT. IT WAS OVER A MONTH AGO. WE JUST TOOK IT OUT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT EVEN. IT'S NOT WORTH TO MAKE EVERYONE UPSET ABOUT MUSIC. THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T HAD IT IN THERE SINCE.

OKAY, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. WE'LL CALL YOU UP IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE. THANK YOU. TAYLOR. GREAT. THANK YOU CHAIR. YEAH, JUST GOING ON THIS, IT IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE IN THE C G ZONE. THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT RECREATION.

THE CONDITIONAL USE IN THE ZONE AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED. THERE WERE SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE IN THE PAST. AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT WITH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS, BUT ALSO WITHDREW THOSE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAD FOUND OUT. YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND WE NEED TO GO AND GET THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING THIS COME FORWARD TODAY FROM THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION. THEY INCLUDE A BUSINESS PLAN. AND I JUST KIND OF PUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN HERE. I BELIEVE THE WHOLE DOCUMENT WAS REFERENCED IN THE PACKET THOUGH. BUT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 8 TO 10 P.M. THEIR AVERAGE ATTENDANCE IS 9 TO 12 KIDS WITH 2 TO 3 COACHES. THEY INDICATE ABOUT 70% OF THE TIME IT'LL BE OCCUPIED. THEY'LL BE JUST 2 TO 4 PEOPLE THERE. SO WORKING ON HITTING, PITCHING AND FIELDING. AND THE PRIMARY HOURS OF OPERATION, YOU SEE 3 TO 9. SO KIND OF AFTER SCHOOL DURING THE WEEK, AND THEN 9 A.M. TO 6 P.M. ON SATURDAYS, AND THEN JUST INDICATING THAT ALL PARKING WILL HAPPEN WITHIN THAT PAVED PARKING LOT ON THE SITE. AS MENTIONED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE INSIDE THE

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NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS WHICH WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL.

CONDITION ONE IS THAT WE JUST COMPLY WITH THE SALT LAKE COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE FROM 10 P.M. TO 7 A.M. CONDITION NUMBER TWO, IS THAT A RESPONSIBLE ADULT, WHETHER THAT'S A COACH, PARENT, GUARDIAN OR TRAINER NEEDS TO BE LOCATED ON THE SITE WHENEVER IT'S BEING USED BY YOUTH. AS OUTDOOR RECREATION IS PROHIBITED IN THE CG ZONE, WHERE CONDITION THAT NO OUTDOOR TRAINING OR USE IS ALLOWED HERE, AND THEN CONDITIONS FOUR THROUGH SEVEN ARE REALLY FROM OUR FIRE SAFETY DEPARTMENT. JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE PROTECTS THE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN THERE, AND THAT THERE'S NOTHING HUNG FROM THOSE FIRE LINES WHICH COULD JEOPARDIZE THE SAFETY OF THE FACILITY. IF APPROVED TONIGHT, THE NEXT STEPS WILL JUST BE A BUSINESS LICENSE, WHICH IS A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE SEVEN CONDITIONS LISTED AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. MR. ANDERSON, IT'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING.

WHEN YOU FIGURE THE PARKING, YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT THERE ARE THE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NUMBER OF YOUTH WE WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 CARS FOR COACHES AND MAYBE A COUPLE KIDS, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE DROPPED OFF AND LEFT. OKAY, THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. BEFORE I OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING, DO YOU JUST WANT TO ON THE RECORD, WE DID GET ONE EMAIL WITH THE NEGATIVE RESPONSE AND THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE THE MINUTES. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND. WE'LL HOLD ON THE LINE. WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THE PEOPLE HERE FIRST. YEAH. MY NAME IS STEVE SMITH AND I LIVE AT 1287 WEST 8830 SOUTH. I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA AND ALL MY NEIGHBORS DO TOO AS WELL. OUR CONCERN WAS WE FEEL LIKE IT WAS SNUCK IN UNDER THE RADAR, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN OPERATING FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS. AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS FOR ME IS THEY PUT UP THIS HUGE LIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT, WHICH LIGHTS UP THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE, AND I HAVE THIS REALLY GREAT LIGHTING AT NIGHT THAT MAKES MY PLACE REALLY ENJOYABLE. AND RIGHT NOW JUST EVERYTHING GLOWS BRIGHT WHITE. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. ANOTHER ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS A LOT OF THIS WAS GOING ON. I HAD A 30 YEAR OLD APPLE TREE THAT'S BEEN CUT OUT OF MY PROPERTY WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION TO ME. I TALKED TO CHRIS ABOUT IT ON THE PHONE AND NO ONE'S CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY. I WAS GONE OUT OF TOWN. I CAME BACK, CHOPPED, GONE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REPLACE A 30 YEAR OLD APPLE TREE. THEY'VE ALSO CUT VINES OFF OF MY FENCE ON MY PROPERTY, NOT PROPERTY LINE, BUT MY PROPERTY. SO THIS IS GOING ON. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A DRAINAGE PROBLEM OVER THERE. THEY PUT A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, HEDGES IS HUGE AND THEY PUT A BUNCH OF EXTENDED RAIN GUTTERS OUT RIGHT AGAINST THE FENCE LINE. AND EVEN THIS LAST RAINSTORM, A HUGE PUDDLE FORMED AND WATER WAS COMING INTO MY BACKYARD, RUNNING ACROSS MY LAWN FLOODED PART OF MY POND. SO THERE'S JUST SOME CONCERNS. I KNOW PARKING IS A CONCERN.

THAT SIDE OF THAT PARKING LOT ONLY HAS A TOTAL OF LIKE SIX PARKING SPOTS, AND IT'S BEING SHARED WITH THE REHAB CENTER. AND THE WHOLE REHAB CENTER HAS BEEN A REALLY PROBLEM FOR US, TOO. I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT GO ON THERE RIGHT NOW TOO. I HAVE PEOPLE IN MY FRONT YARD, LIKE DOING DRUGS. I HAVE A HOMELESS PERSON LIVING ON THE SIDE OF MY FENCE. NOW. WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE SNEAKING AROUND THE SIDE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ADDRESSED AND THAT WE CAN ALL BE REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS.

YOU KNOW, I, I WANT IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I JUST WANT IT TO BE CONSIDERATE FOR THE REST OF US. THE LIGHTING, THE WATER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS I'M DEALING WITH AND THE LOSS OF MY PROPERTY WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.

DOES SOMEONE COME IN AND CUTTING MY TREE OUT ON MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS REALLY ODD, YOU KNOW, FOR 30 YEARS. AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT A VALUE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW AM I GOING TO GET THAT REPLACED? YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY KIND OF LITIGATION OR ANYTHING. I REALIZED IT WAS PROBABLY A MISTAKE, BUT IT'S BECAUSE NO ONE CAME FORWARD IN THE FRONT AND TALKED TO ANYBODY ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE SO, THANK YOU. YOU BET. ANYBODY ELSE?

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT. SORRY. MY NAME IS BARBARA. THIS IS MY HUSBAND, DAN. WE LIVE DIRECTLY EAST AT 8856 SOUTH 1240 WEST. WE HAVE KIND OF A BIG LOT. SO WE HAVE A PRIMO SPOT THAT WE ENJOY IN THE BACK QUITE A BIT FROM THE BACK OF OUR HOUSE TO THE BACK OF THEIR BUILDING IS 50FT, BUT MY PROPERTY LINE ENDS AT 49FT, SO THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 4.5FT OF PROPERTY BEFORE THEY HIT THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN IT'S A HUGE BUILDING. AT LEAST 20 SOMETHING FEET. IT'S SHEET METAL. IT'S INTERESTING. THEY'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME INTO IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO SOUNDPROOF IT. AND WE DIDN'T GO OVER JUST ONCE OR TWICE. WE WENT OVER MULTIPLE TIMES. THE MESSAGE WAS NEVER SHARED FROM ONE OWNER TO THE NEXT TEAM, AND THEN FROM THAT TEAM TO THAT TEAM, EVERYONE SEEMED TO HAVE A DOOR CODE AND THEY WOULD JUST LET THEMSELVES IN, TURN THE MUSIC ON AND GET TO WORK. FINALLY, FIFTH TIME WE FINALLY MET THE SECOND OWNER AND THAT WAS WHEN WE ASKED, WILL YOU JUST PLEASE TELL EVERYBODY EVERY POSITIVE INTERACTION OR CHANGE HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF OUR PERSISTENCE IN THE MATTER? AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE ABOUT MY CONCERNS. FIRST OFF, IT'S NOT A SOUNDPROOF BUILDING. IT'S A SHEET METAL BUILDING, AND IT'S NOT MADE FOR ANY KIND OF MUSIC OR ENTERTAINMENT. ENTERTAINMENT IS SOMETHING THAT IS LISTED ON THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT DEEPLY. THEY HAVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAID THAT THEY'LL DO PARTIES, THEY'LL DO YOGA CLASSES, THEY'LL DO THIS AND THAT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST A SOFTBALL IN THE WINTER. THE PLAN ON MAKING MONEY WITH THE FACILITY 12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. THEY ALSO HAVE SAID ON SOCIAL MEDIA, TO THEIR SPONSORS AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THEM MONEY TO SHOW UP, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A OUTDOOR BATTING CAGE FACILITY. AND COINCIDENTALLY, THE THE PROPERTY JUST DIRECTLY NORTH, WHICH IS PROBABLY 4.5FT AWAY FROM MY TWO FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS HERE, THEY'VE CLEARED THAT OUT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD FIT FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING NEGATIVE IMPACTS. THE BUILDING IS TOO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCE AND IT'S NOT SOUNDPROOF. EVEN INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT IS LOUD. NO, YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. SORRY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ON THE LINE? ALL RIGHT. SO MY NAME IS DAN, AND I'M HER HUSBAND. AND WE LIVE AT 1240 WEST. WE'RE JUST TO THE EAST, AND WE HAVE MASSIVE EXPOSURE TO THIS BUILDING. THIS BUILDING IS 20, 20 PLUS FEET TALL. AND LIKE MY LOVELY WIFE SAID, IT'S NOT SOUNDPROOFED. AND WE HAVE HAD WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY PEOPLE VISIT OUR HOUSE AND TALK ABOUT HOW QUIET AND HOW PEACEFUL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS. AND THIS IS INSANE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIKE THE ANALOGY I LIKE TO USE TO DESCRIBE IT IS WHEN I JULY DAY AND I PULL A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THE, THE BASS MUSIC. BUT IF YOU ARE, THAT'S WONDERFUL. BUT I'M JUST THERE FOR A MINUTE. I CAN ENDURE IT FOR JUST A MINUTE. THE BANGING WHERE YOU FEEL IT INSIDE YOUR BODY. BUT I CAN'T DO THAT ALL, ALL, ALL THE TIME INSIDE MY HOUSE. SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO GO OVER THERE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES. AND THEY JUST DIDN'T DO IT ON THEIR OWN. THEY HAD THE AUTHORITIES GOT INVOLVED AND WENT OVER THERE AND SHUT IT DOWN. SO I'M FEARFUL THAT THIS IS THIS IS JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS FOR THESE GUYS TO COME IN UNDER THE RADAR, KIND OF CONVINCE YOU THAT IT'S GOING TO BE JUST SOME KIDS OVER THERE HAVING A GOOD TIME, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO ESCALATE AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN. OKAY. THE LIKE MY WIFE SAID

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THEY NEED TO THEY NEED TO SOUNDPROOF THE BUILDING WITH SOUND DEADENING, LIKE WHAT PEOPLE DO FOR ROCK BANDS. AND THEN THAT WAY I, THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT OVER THERE.

THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. I WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. I'VE BEEN, I'VE PAID MY TAXES IN THIS STATE FOR 27 YEARS AT THAT SAME PROPERTY. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU GUYS WOULD HELP ME OUT AND, AND I GET IT THAT I DRIVE ON BEAUTIFUL ROADS AND, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY'S WENT TO ALL THESE OTHER OTHER ENTITIES, BUT COME ON, HELP ME OUT HERE. THIS IS A SPECIAL CASE. AND THESE GUYS ARE BUTTED UP AGAINST. IT'S A VERY RARE SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE BUTTED UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD GIVE IT ITS DUE DILIGENCE AND THINK ABOUT IF YOUR HOUSE, IF YOU LIVED IN MY HOUSE AND YOU WERE THERE. OKAY. AND OH, AND BY THE WAY, I WENT OVER AND TALKED TO THE RECOVERY CENTER AND THEY, THEY'RE USING THEIR CLIENTS ARE USING THE RECOVERY CENTER PARKING LOT SO THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THEIR, THEIR CLIENTS. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, I THINK THAT WHY THEY'RE CLEARING OUT THE NORTH SIDE, WHY THEY CLEARED OUT ALL THE GARBAGE IS TO MAKE THAT A PARKING AREA. SO HOPEFULLY I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE OR. OH. I LIVE ON 8830 SOUTH, 1263 WEST, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO DUNBAR.

BASICALLY. I'VE HEARD I THOUGHT IT WAS A PILE DRIVER. I THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING CONSTRUCTION ON 90TH. AGAIN, FROM JUST THE BALLS HITTING THE BACKSTOPS, WHICH YOU CAN HEAR IT PLAIN AS DAY INSIDE THE HOUSE, NOT JUST OUT. YOU'RE SITTING THERE GOING, WHAT IN THE HECK IS THE NOISE? SO IF THEY DO ONE THING, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLEANING UP THE SIDE YARD.

IT'S BEEN FOREVER SINCE IT'S EVER BEEN CLEANED OUT, BUT WE'VE COMPLAINED ABOUT FOR PROBABLY 20 YEARS THAT NOBODY'S CLEANED IT OUT. SO I WANT TO, SIR, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS US SO WE COULD HEAR YOU. WELL, HE'S THE ONE THAT FINALLY GOT IT DONE. WE'VE CAME HERE. WHEN THEY DID THE RECOVERY, WE COMPLAINED ABOUT CLEANING OUT THAT SIDE YARD. NOTHING HAPPENED BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS ON THE COMMITTEE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE HAGGIS. SO I JUST WANTED TO TELL HIM THANK YOU FOR CLEANING IT OUT. AND IT'S GREAT FOR THE KIDS. JUST THE NOISE POLLUTION. IF YOU GO FROM 8 TO 10:00, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, I'M GOING TO BE SITTING IN THERE HAVING A CUP OF COFFEE, LISTENING TO THE BANGING ALL DAY. SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE? OH. I'M GERALD JAMESON. I LIVE ON 1211 WEST 8830 SOUTH. I'M WONDERING HOW COME THEY CHANGED THE THE NOISE ORDINANCE FROM THE TIME FROM FROM 6:00 TO 10:00 WITHOUT INFORMING ANYBODY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVEN CHECKED INTO IT HERE. I THINK IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE, THAT CONDITIONAL USE. CONDITIONAL USE IS NO, NOTHING'S OPEN AFTER SIX. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT HERE RIGHT NOW TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO THIS IS SO THAT YOU CAN VOICE YOUR OPINION. THANK YOU. AND I'M OKAY. I'VE NOTICED. OKAY. ON THE IT'S IT'S THE OTHER BUSINESS OVER THERE FOR THE DRUG REHABILITATION AND ALL THAT. I'VE NOTICED THERE'S WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE NOW IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT. I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS. IT'S REALLY CONCERNING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NAME IS CHRIS HARRIS, 1275 WEST, 8830 SOUTH. I THINK I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE FOR A WEEK AND A HALF. WE JUST MOVED IN AND SO I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERNS BECAUSE JUST WHAT I'VE

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HEARD, I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ANYTHING HERE YET, BUT JUST WHAT I'VE HEARD, I'VE CONCERNS.

MY WIFE AND I ARE RETIRED AND WE JUST WANT PEACE, THAT'S ALL. AND IF THE NOISE IS GOING TO BE TROUBLESOME OR ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE AROUND US. SO I'M CONCERNED JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I WISH HIM TO HAVE GREAT SUCCESS IN HIS BUSINESS. BUT IF THERE'S A NOISE PROBLEM, HE JUST NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SO IT DOESN'T BOTHER US OR WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT BOTHER US NEIGHBORS BECAUSE. JUST VOICING MY CONCERNS. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP FOR COMMENT AND OR MOTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. FIRST OF ALL, THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY MAINTAINED BY THE SALT LAKE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT HAS BEEN A 10:00 TIME ZONE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, PROBABLY EVEN BACK WHEN I WAS A KID, WHICH WAS MANY, MANY MOONS AGO. BUT THE CITY HAS NO ORDINANCES AS FAR AS THAT. THAT'S ALL RUN THROUGH THE SALT LAKE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND AS FAR AS THE LIGHTS, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT THE LIGHTS CANNOT PROTRUDE ONTO THE OTHER PROPERTIES. AND I DON'T KNOW, TAYLOR, CAN YOU MAYBE ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, CHAIR.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE LIGHTS. IF THOSE ARE NEW, THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH A BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS FOR RUNNING THE ELECTRICAL WHERE WE COULD CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT MEETS CITY COMPLIANCE. SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT GO OVER AND CHECK OUT. AND IF THEY ARE THERE AND THEY WEREN'T PERMITTED, THEY'LL NEED TO REMOVE THOSE UNTIL THEY GET THOSE PERMITTED. THAT'S SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, IDEALLY EVERY BUSINESS WOULD COME IN, GET THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE, CONDITIONAL USE BEFORE THEY OPEN. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WASN'T THE CASE HERE.

AND SO AS IT GOT BROUGHT UP TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEN REFERRED OVER TO PLANNING, WE'RE NOW GOING AND TRYING TO RECTIFY SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, WHICH IF WE WOULD HAVE COME THROUGH BEFORE WE COULD HAVE ADDRESSED MAYBE BEFORE IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS A NUISANCE TO THE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. FORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT IN THE PAST.

AND OUR OUR JOB MOVING FORWARD IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE AND WE MITIGATE THOSE AS BEST WE CAN, WHILE COMPLYING WITH OUR CODE AND MAKING SURE THEY DO. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE CONDITIONS COULD WOULD MEAN A REVOCATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS LICENSE. AND SO THIS WOULD HELP US TO TRACK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THE COMPLIANT WITH THOSE CONDITIONS, I GUESS. SO I TRY AND ADDRESS ALL THE QUESTIONS I REMEMBER FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING I FORGOT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. YEAH, I WROTE DOWN THE LIGHTS, WHICH YOU CAN CHECK INTO FOR US AND THE NOISE, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF BEEN ADDRESSED TO MY KNOWLEDGE. THEY'VE GOT THAT HANDLED AS FAR AS WITH NETTING AND THEY'VE REMOVED THE THE MUSIC, THE BANGING ON THE SIDE SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE WITH THE NETTING TOO. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF OUR CALL, RIGHT? AS FAR AS THE PROTECTION OF THE. YES, WE DO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR NETTING. AND DUNCAN MIGHT WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AS WELL. BUT THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WE HAVE TO MITIGATE CONDITIONS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND NOISE IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT. FORTUNATELY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN FULLY ADDRESSED. WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT IT'S PERFECTLY QUIET, BUT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY WHERE WE NEED TO MITIGATE THOSE PROBLEMS. AND LEANING ON THE COUNTY HEALTH NOISE ORDINANCE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT, AS IS THE NETTING. NO. THAT'S ACCURATE. THE CONDITIONS DON'T HAVE TO FULLY ELIMINATE THAT AS YOU KNOW THE ADVERSE EFFECTS, BUT SIMPLY MITIGATE THEM. AND THE ADVANTAGE TO THE COUNTY HEALTH ORDINANCE IS IT'S A UNIFORM STANDARD THAT WE APPLY TO ALL BUSINESSES. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW THAT'S BEEN MADE UP. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ADDRESSED. AND AS FAR AS THE OTHER STUFF, YEAH, WE'RE NOT I MEAN WE CAN'T MAKE EVERYTHING TOTALLY 100% SILENT, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED ONTO THE. ITEMS THAT

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ARE SUGGESTED FOR THE PERMIT, LIKE TAYLOR SAID, CAN BE REVOKED AND THAT THEY CAN END UP GETTING THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE PULLED. NOW, AS FAR AS THE THEFT AND STUFF LIKE THAT OF YOUR TREES AND STUFF, I WOULD CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE AREA FOR THAT. AND THEY CAN KIND OF TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ON THAT PART OF IT. AND THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED. AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONAL. NO OUTDOOR SPORTS WILL BE ALLOWED THERE. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I SAW TOO. AND AS FAR AS THE WATER, IT'S I DON'T THINK THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM HAS CHANGED ANY SINCE IT WAS HAGAR'S MATTRESS.

YEAH. SO. NOT SURE. OKAY, LET'S. SO REGARDING DRAINAGE SITES ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN STORMWATER. WE GO THROUGH, AS WE DID EARLIER WITH SANDRA'S PLACE AND WE ADDRESS THOSE STORMWATER FOR AN EXISTING STRUCTURE LIKE THIS, IF THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE OR IF IT'S CAUSING FLOODING ON A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE A CIVIL ISSUE FOR THEM TO WORK OUT. BUT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING YOUR STORMWATER AND GETTING IT TO A STORMWATER SYSTEM. SO CIVIL ACTION BETWEEN THE PARTIES WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO HANDLE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT. ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I WAS FIRST I TAYLOR, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NETTING REAL QUICK WITH YOU. SO I SEE THAT WE HAVE CONDITIONS SIX AND SEVEN THAT TALK ABOUT NOT ALLOWING NETS TO BE HUNG FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE BUILDING, BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY SEE A CONDITION OF REQUIRING NETS TO BE INSTALLED. WAS THAT INTENDED TO BE IN THERE? NO IT'S NOT. WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND THAT. REGARDING THE NOISE COMPLAINTS, OUR RECOMMENDED CONDITION IS COMPLYING WITH THE SALT LAKE COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE. THAT DOES ALLOW FOR NOISE. IT HAS A DECIBEL LIMIT. I DON'T KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IF THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THAT, THEN THEY'D BE A VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THE NETTING. I BELIEVE THE CONDITIONS ARE MORE FOR SAFETY OF NOT HAVING THOSE BALLS GO TO TO OTHER BATTING LANES OR FROM HITTING THE THE FIRE SAFETY EQUIPMENT THERE. SO THE NETS AREN'T ADDED FOR A QUIETING PURPOSE. THEY'RE ADDED FOR SAFETY. OKAY, I KNOW THE NETTING CANNOT BE HUNG FROM THE FIRE SYSTEM. THAT'S DEFINITELY A CODE VIOLATION. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY, CHIEF JENSEN? YES. SO SO BASICALLY THE THE NETS ARE GOING TO BE BASED FOR HITTING. AND THEN THE METAL COVERS REALLY ARE PROBABLY FOR THE ERRANT THROWS.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE THEY WOULD HAVE THE NETS ANYWAYS. BUT YEAH, NOTHING CAN BE HUNG FROM ANY SORT OF LIFE SAFETY SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE FIRE SPRINKLERS. SO. SURE. AND MAYBE THIS IS A, WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL. BUT IF, IF THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL, YOU KNOW, FULLY NETTED CAGES, THEN THAT WOULD PREVENT THE BALL FROM HITTING THE WALL. SO AT LEAST THE GENTLEMAN WHO EXPRESSED THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT I, I HEAR THE THUD AND THE POUNDING. IF THERE'S A NET THERE, THEN THAT WOULD PREVENT THE BALL FROM HITTING THE WALL. SO, I MEAN, I'D BE INTERESTED TO IF YOU KNOW, IF THE CHAIR WANTS, I'D BE INTERESTED IN BRINGING THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS TO TO EXPLAIN TO US THAT ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTION TO THAT? OKAY, OKAY, LET'S DO THAT.

SO THERE'S THERE'S TWO CAGES AND THEY SLIDE IN THEIR COMPLETE THEY'RE 12 BY 12 BY 40, AND THEY COMPLETELY GO TO THE GROUND AND THEY HAVE ABOUT THREE FOOT OF OVERHANG. SO THE BALLS HIT INTO THE NET, ONE OUT OF A COUPLE HUNDRED WILL COME OUT AND MAYBE HIT THE WALL IF THAT VERY RARELY. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR. THEY'RE SPECIALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT. THERE'S A NETS. SO THAT'S THE NETS FOR THE CAGES. BUT EVEN ON ABOVE THAT WE PUT ANOTHER NET SO THAT YOU ARE FIVE FEET FROM THE ROOF. AND THERE'S ALSO THERE'S A DIVIDED WALL ON ONE SIDE AND A DIVIDED WALL ON THE OTHER SIDE. WHEN YOU COME IN, WE PUT A NET THERE AND A NET THERE AS WELL. SO THE ONLY PLACE THEY HIT THE BALLS ARE IN THE BATTING CAGES. SO IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A NET AND THEN ANOTHER NET TO HIT THE WALL. IT'S VERY I'M HONESTLY SURPRISED TO SAY THAT THEY HEAR THEY HEAR THAT. BUT IF THEY DO, I I'M VERY SURPRISED. BUT AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE, I DIDN'T TOUCH THE DRAINAGE AT ALL. WE DIDN'T DO A SINGLE THING TO THE DRAINAGE EXCEPT FOR CLEAN UP THE SIDE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WAS HORRIBLE. WE CLEANED UP

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ALMOST FOUR TONS OF GARBAGE, TWO TONS OF STEEL AND METAL THAT. WE TOOK IT TO THE RECYCLING FACTORY AND ALMOST TWO TONS OF GARBAGE. AND WE'RE TALKING. THERE WAS SOMEONE LIVING ON THE SIDE. THERE WAS A WHOLE BATHROOM AREA SECTION WHERE SECTION OF FECES THAT SOMEONE WAS LIVING, AND THERE WAS A BIG COVERED BOX THAT SOMEONE WAS STAYING IN. AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE PEOPLE FROM THE RECOVERY CENTER AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. THAT'S WHY WE CLEANED IT UP. OKAY. ORIGINALLY, WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO A BATTING CAGE THERE. THEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT, BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP US FROM CLEANING IT UP. WHEN YOU WALK UP TO THE BUILDING AND WE'VE CLEANED UP ALL OF THE PARKING LOT, YES, WE DID CUT THE VINES ON THE BRICK WALL ON THIS SIDE. WE DID NOT CUT ANYTHING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STEVE'S FENCE AT ALL. YOU COULD GO LOOK AT IT. IT'S CUT PERFECTLY ON A LINE AS FAR AS A TREE. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE TREE. THAT TREE HASN'T BEEN THERE FOR AT LEAST 2 OR 3 MONTHS. SO WE DID HAVE LUMEN, AT&T AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER COMPANIES COME TO EVALUATE FOR INTERNET AND ACCESS. AND THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE INTERNET IS. SO I WOULD GUESS YOU COULD PROBABLY CHECK WITH ONE OF THEM TO GET ACCESS IF THEY CUT SOMETHING TO GET ACCESS. BUT THERE'S A POLE THERE AND ALL THREE OF THE ELECTRICAL BOXES ARE IN THAT CORNER WHERE THAT TREE WAS CUT DOWN. SO IT WAS CLEANED UP, BUT I DIDN'T TOUCH THE I DIDN'T TOUCH THE TREE. SO. AND AS FAR AS THE WATER, I PROMISE I DID NOT DO ANYTHING WITH. THE BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE FOR 100 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT'S BEEN. WE DID NOTHING WITH THE DRAINAGE. ME AND MY PARTNER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THE. IT DRAINED AND IT DRAINED OFF BEFORE. MAYBE NOW THAT WE'VE CLEANED IT UP, IT'S NOT GETTING STUCK IN EVERYTHING I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE DRAINAGE.

OKAY. SORRY. THE OTHER TWO CONCERNS THAT STUCK OUT IN MY MIND IS THERE'S THE PARKING LOT LIGHT, AND THEN THE CONCERN ABOUT HOSTING EVENTS AND YOGA CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS ADVERTISED. SO YEAH, WE, WE SAID WE WERE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TO SO WE COULD DO LIKE A YOGA OR EXERCISE OR SOMETHING IN THERE, WHICH WOULD BE AGAIN, 10 OR 12 PEOPLE TO 15 PEOPLE, WHATEVER. BUT DOING EXERCISE OR TRAINING. AND IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED THE NATURALS TRAINING FACILITY. THE LIGHT I, STEVE TALKED TO ME LAST WEEK ABOUT THE LIGHT. IT'S IN THE SAME SPOT AS THE OLD LIGHT WAS. SO THERE WAS A LIGHT THERE, BUT IT DID NOT WORK. SO IF YOU WENT THERE AT NIGHT, IT IS PITCH BLACK, COMPLETELY PITCH BLACK. YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. SO WE REPLACED THE LIGHT ON THE SAME ELECTRICAL, THE SAME SPOT AND IT IS BRIGHT. IT LIGHTS UP THE PARKING LOT. WE HAVE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT THERE AND HE DID LOOK AT IT AND HE SAID IT'S NOT BAD ENOUGH. BUT I TOLD STEVE, WE WILL ADJUST THE LIGHT DOWN SO THAT IT GOES JUST MORE STRAIGHT DOWN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE A BAD NEIGHBOR. I JUST WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT THE. AND THE REALITY IS WE PUT CAMERAS IN AND I'VE SEEN NEIGHBORS ON THAT SIDE OF THAT BUILDING THAT ARE IN HERE TODAY. SO. AND THEY KNOW THAT AND I'VE ADDRESSED THAT WITH THEM TOO. SO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING OVER AND THEY TAKE METAL OUT OF THE SIDE AND SCRAP IT, OR THEY'RE DOING OTHER THINGS, WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ON THAT PROPERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT I'M NOT HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT NEIGHBORS COMING ON OUR PROPERTY. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT ON THE SIDE CORNER THERE HAVE BARBECUES AND PARTIES ALL THE TIME AND THAT IT GOES LATE INTO THE NIGHT. LOUD MUSIC. AND SOMEONE CALLED IN A COMPLAINT. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A STEREO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MUSIC. AND THE MUSIC WAS COMING FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. SO I ADDRESSED THAT WITH THE CODE.

ENFORCEMENT SAID, GO TALK TO THE NEIGHBOR. RIGHT. AS FAR AS PARKING, YOU SAID THERE'S 15 STALLS WE SHARE. THERE'S SIX ON THIS SIDE, SEVEN ON THIS SIDE, FOUR IN THE THING, AND TWO ARE HERE. WE SHARE. THE ENTRANCE IS WITH A VACUUM COMPANY. THE VACUUM COMPANY IS NEVER THERE.

THEY'RE USUALLY THERE 1 OR 2 DAYS A WEEK, SEVEN EIGHT IN THE MORNING THEY UNLOAD. ALL THEY DO IS STORE VACUUMS, PERIOD. THEY ARE 100% OKAY WITH US USING THE PARKING SPOT. HAGGIS TOLD US THAT PARKING ON THIS SIDE IS OURS. WE DID HAVE PEOPLE THAT PARKED ON THE OTHER SIDE. SORRY, I GOT CAUGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS THE RECOVERY CENTER PARKING. THAT LADY FROM THERE CAME TO BRAD. BRAD CAME TO US, TOLD US OKAY WE WENT TO AND SAID WE WILL PARK ONLY ON THIS SIDE. SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THE RECOVERY PEOPLE. THERE'S THREE SPOTS EVERY DAY. THE RECOVERY PEOPLE PARK THERE. ONE IS THE OWNER OF THE RECOVERY AND A BLACK SUBURBAN. AND SO WE KNOW THE PEOPLE AND WE WENT AND TALKED TO HIM. THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT

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PARK ARE FROM THE NEIGHBORS ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT WILL PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT. SO TELL ME, HOW COME THEY PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT, BUT WE CAN'T PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT? SO I'M NOT.

I'M NOT HERE. I WASN'T HERE TO COME TO TRY TO NEIGHBORS OFF AND TRY TO MAKE THEM UPSET. I'M JUST HERE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE YOUTH AND AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MY DAUGHTER. MY PARTNER HAS A 12 YEAR OLD SON THAT HAS A BOYS BASEBALL TEAM. WE CAN WE'VE WORKED WITH WEST JORDAN BASEBALL. YOU CAN TALK TO THE PRESIDENT OF WEST JORDAN BASEBALL. WE'VE SPONSORED THEM. THEY CAME THEY CAME IN ONE TIME AND DID A CLINIC WITH COACHES AND STUFF. THEY LOVE IT. EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY LOVES IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE KIDS. AS FAR AS THE NOISE, I'M SORRY WE TOOK THE MUSIC OUT. I DIDN'T CHANGE THE DRAINAGE AND I JUST I'M JUST IN AWE. SO BUT OKAY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. SORRY TO INTERRUPT IF YOU'RE NOT DONE. NO, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. MAYBE PUT SIGNS ON YOUR PARKING STALL SAYING THIS SPOT BELONGS TO YOUR YOUR BUSINESS. AND SO I ALREADY HAVE BOTH SIGNS MADE, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THEM UP WITHOUT GETTING APPROVAL FIRST. SO I HAVE THE SIGNS I WILL GO TOMORROW AND THEY SAY NATURALS PARKING LOT ONLY. AND ONE GOES ON THE SIDE OF THIS WALL, WHICH IS THE RECOVERY CENTER. IT'S A PROFESSIONAL NICE MADE SIGN. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE GOES ON THE BRICK WALL. SO IT SAYS BOTH SIDES.

THEY WILL BE UP AS OF TOMORROW MORNING. IF THEY GET APPROVAL. THAT'D BE A SUGGESTION TO HELP WITH THE PARKING ISSUE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THE THINGS THAT COULD HELP MITIGATE THAT. AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THE LIGHTING. YEP. I'LL ADJUST THE LIGHT AND I'LL HAVE THE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE HAVING SUCH AN ISSUE. IF IT WAS DEAD, NO LIGHTING AT ALL. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU TURN IT ON, I GET IT. AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HELP.

IT'S ALSO HELPED WITH THE PROBLEMS THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT, ABOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND THE DRUG PEOPLE THERE, BECAUSE WE CATCH THEM ALL THE TIME TOO. EVERY WE CATCH THEM AND ASK THEM TO LEAVE. AND THAT'S WHY WE CLEANED IT UP. AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, YOU CAN CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY CAN HELP YOU REMOVE THOSE PEOPLE ALSO.

AND THAT GOES FOR THE NEIGHBORS TOO. SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR. JUST. YES, NO. OKAY. JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS, WE'VE GOT KIND OF A REALLY NARROW LINE THAT WE CAN DO. BASICALLY, OUR JOB HERE AS COMMISSIONERS IS JUST TO HELP MITIGATE IT. LIKE I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, WE CANNOT ELIMINATE ALL OF THE NOISE. BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS ALONG AND, AND AS LONG AS WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE MITIGATIONS AND THERE'S A LIST TOO THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW, AND IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE LIST, THEN THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE WILL BE REVOKED. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS CLEAR WHAT OUR ROLE IS, AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO GET ALONG BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL NEIGHBORS. WE ALL LIVE HERE IN WEST JORDAN.

AND SO THAT WAS BASICALLY MY $0.02 WORTH. AND ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OR COMMISSIONER ROBERTS. SO I'M A CONCERNED ABOUT A LOT OF THE, THE NOISE STUFF IN PARTICULAR.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO THERE, BUT THAT COMES BACK AROUND KIND OF FULL CIRCLE TO THE IDEA OF USING IT FOR OTHER EVENTS OR EVEN INVITING OTHER TEAMS TO USE THE FACILITY. AND SPECIFICALLY, CONDITION NUMBER TWO, ARE RESPONSIBLE. ADULT SHALL BE LOCATED ON SITE. IF THEY BRING IN ANOTHER TEAM WHO'S NOT THEIR TEAM, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THEM FROM BRINGING A BOOM BOX IN AND CREATING THE MUSIC ISSUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AGAIN, I'M CURIOUS, CAN WE GET MORE SPECIFIC ON SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS AND HOW SPECIFIC CAN WE GET TO KIND OF TRY TO RECTIFY SOME OF THAT? YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. I THINK FIRST, ANY CONDITIONS YOU'RE CONSIDERING ADDING, THERE WAS LANGUAGE IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE CODE ON WHAT FINDINGS WE HAVE TO MAKE TO ADD CONDITIONS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO ADDRESS BY ORDINANCE. SECONDLY, HAVING DONE CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THE PAST, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU WANT TO ADD, YOU CONSIDER HOW THEY ARE ENFORCED. IF A CONDITION IS NOT ENFORCEABLE. THEN IT'S NOT MUCH BETTER THAN HAVING IT. SO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO FORCE IT. AND IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ENFORCE WHEN WE'RE ADDING CONDITIONS. THANKS FOR THAT. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. I

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GUESS MY BIGGEST THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIFIC THING THAT I WAS THAT I WAS REFERRING TO, I'M THINKING THAT RATHER THAN SAYING A RESPONSIBLE ADULT, WE PROBABLY WANT TO SAY SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY HAS AUTHORITY OVER THE FACILITY SHOULD BE THERE ANYTIME SOMEBODY IS THERE AND SOMEBODY WHO CAN ENFORCE THE RULES, KIND OF THE SAME THING WE'VE DONE WITH EVENT CENTERS AND WHATNOT IN THE PAST, WHERE THEY HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY ON SITE AND SO ON. AND IF THAT'S ENFORCEABLE AND MEETS OUR REQUIREMENT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY EMPLOYED OR RELATED TO THE OWNERSHIP, WHO HAS ABILITY TO. ADDRESS COMPLAINTS AND ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, ENFORCE THEIR OWN RULES AND ENFORCE THINGS THEY'VE AGREED TO. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE APPLICANT IS SAYING, WELL, IT WASN'T US, IT WAS THE COACH OF THIS OTHER TEAM. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON. YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE SAME DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING WITH THE TREE SITUATION, WHICH I GET. DON'T THINK I'M POINTING FINGERS AT YOU BY ANY MEANS, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANT THERE TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE, LIKE NUMBER TWO IS NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH. SO CAN I CHIME IN ON JUST ONE CONSIDERATION? THE WAY I READ NUMBER TWO IS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO UPHOLD ALL THESE CONDITIONS AND WHETHER THAT'S HAVING ONE OF THEM THERE, OR IF THEY HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THEIR FACILITY THAT THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO IN ORDER TO USE IT, TO RENT IT. I THINK THAT'S UP TO THEM. BUT. IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONUS ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THESE CONDITIONS, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLYING WITH THESE CONDITIONS, THEN THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THAT'LL BE REVOKED AND THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE WILL BE REVOKED. SO RATHER THAN US TRYING TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO IT, I THINK WE SAY THESE ARE YOUR YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN. AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE AT RISK RATHER THAN US TRYING TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO THAT, LET THEM CRAFT WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THAT. FAIR ENOUGH. THANKS FOR THAT POINT. OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JUST JUST TO TAG ON TO COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, THOUGH. I MEAN, HE MAKES A GOOD POINT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICANT HAS REMOVED THE STEREO, IT DOESN'T. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY THAT SOUND IS PRODUCED. RIGHT. SO WHAT IF THERE WAS A CONDITION, AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT ANY AMPLIFIED MUSIC CANNOT BE LOUDER THAN TO EXCEED THE WALLS OF THE BUILDING? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE FOR COMMERCIAL USE ANYWAY. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T WANT A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING PLAYING THEIR MUSIC SO LOUD THAT I CAN HEAR IT RIGHT. ALL OTHER ALL OTHER NOISE SHOULD BE CONTAINED INSIDE OF THEIR BUILDING, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AMPLIFIED MUSIC. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT SORT OF A CONDITION? I'D HAVE DUNCAN ANSWER THAT, BUT I WILL SAY I LIVE ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY FROM THE STADIUM AND I HEAR THEIR MUSIC 100 NIGHTS A YEAR. NOW. THEY COMPLY WITH THE SALT LAKE COUNTY HEALTH ORDINANCE. BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO HEAR MUSIC OUTSIDE IN BUSINESSES DO HAVE MUSIC. ALSO, WHEN THERE'S CONSTRUCTION, YOU WILL COMMONLY HEAR BOOMBOX MUSIC AND, AND STUFF. AND WHEN IT'S WITHIN COMPLIANCE WITH SALT LAKE COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH LI LEEWAY WE HAVE TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THAT. I TURN NOW TO DUNCAN, THOUGH, FOR HIS. I'D BE CURIOUS TO DUNCAN'S THOUGHTS. I MEAN, THE BEAST. THE BEAST STADIUM I LOOK AT IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

I MEAN, THAT IS AN OUTDOOR VENUE AS OPPOSED TO AN INDOOR VENUE. BUT YEAH, THE THE COUNTY HEALTH ORDINANCE, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, FOR NOISE IS THE BEST WAY TO GO BECAUSE IT'S UNIFORM, IT'S APPLICABLE TO EVERYONE. WE HAVE HAD OTHER INDOOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

AND IN FACT, WE HAD ONE NOT JUST WITHIN THE LAST, ANOTHER ONE WITHIN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE EVER APPLIED ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE TO ANY OF THE OTHERS. SO THE THE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS IF THERE'S NO REAL DIFFERENTIATION, IT IT APPEARS LIKE WE'RE TREATING ONE IN THE CLASS, SO TO SPEAK, DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHERS WITH NO APPARENT DIFFERENCE. SO I RECOMMEND THAT YOU YOU NOT CHANGE PURELY BASED ON PUBLIC CLAMOR, SOMETHING THAT'S RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT IS CLEARLY DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHERS WITHOUT EVEN COMPARING WITH THE OTHERS THAT YOU HAVEN'T REQUIRED ANYTHING MORE FOR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. RIGHT. AND I THINK WE COULD STILL, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO WORD THIS, JUST MAKE SURE IT'S THE OCCUPANT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THEY CONTROL THE NOISE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FEEL THAT IT'S OKAY TO. DOES ANYBODY HERE KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE IS? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT WHAT IN THE COUNTY NOISE

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ORDINANCE PROHIBITS A ANY COMMERCIAL FACILITY. YOU KNOW, THE THE OLIVE GARDEN DOWN THE STREET FROM PLAYING MUSIC SO LOUD THAT THAT I HEAR IT. THERE'S A DECIBEL LIMIT. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT IT IS, TAYLOR? OKAY. YEAH. TAYLOR. I'LL LOOK IT UP. ACCORDING TO GOOGLE, IT SAYS FIVE DECIBELS ABOVE AMBIENT LEVELS AT PROPERTY LINES. AND SO THEN IF IT WAS LOUDER THAN THAT, THE POLICE WOULD BE CALLED AND A REPORT WOULD BE MADE. AND THEN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS IN DANGER OF BEING REVOKED. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S A REFERENCE TO IT IN OUR CODE. WE HAVE TO JUST CLICK THAT LINK AND IT TAKES US RIGHT TO THE COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE 60DB. 50DB. TOTAL, NOT ABOVE AMBIENT, RIGHT? SO 60 DURING THE DAY AND 50DB AT NIGHT AS A APPARENTLY AT LEAST THIS SYNOPSIS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. AND THOSE COMPLAINTS WOULD BE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED TO SALT LAKE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY ACTUALLY ENFORCE THEM INSTEAD.

RIGHT. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. HOW DO WE GET HOW DOES THE CITY GET NOTIFIED OF A NOISE VIOLATION THAT WOULD PUT THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT RISK? IT MIGHT COME THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF SO, THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD REFER IT TO THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY WOULD COORDINATE BACK WITH US. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR. UNLESS THEY ENFORCED IT, WE COULD PROBABLY ENFORCE IT HERE. THERE'S PROBABLY TWO MECHANISMS. ONCE THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT DETERMINES THAT THERE IS A VIOLATION. SO YEAH. CODE ENFORCEMENT CONSISTENTLY IS IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY, WHETHER IT BE NOISE, DUST. WE WE COMMUNICATE FREQUENTLY. NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, OUR CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT GETS NOTIFIED AND WE PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO COUNTY OFFICIALS AND THEY'LL GO OUT AND AND SO IF THEY'RE FOUND IN VIOLATION, WE GET THAT DOCUMENTATION AND WE FOLLOW THE RELOCATION PROCESS. MR. HOLLINGSWORTH, JUST FOR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE, YOU CAN GO TO SALT LAKE COUNTY.GOV, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND FILE A NOISE COMPLAINT THROUGH THE WEBSITE. SO THERE'S AN OPTION THERE FOR YOU TO. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MR. HOLLINGSWORTH I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT. INDOOR FOR NATURALS TRAINING FACILITY ON APPROXIMATELY 0.86 ACRE SITE LOCATED AT 8901 SOUTH 1300 WEST, SUBJECT TO ALL CONDITIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL. OKAY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE A SECOND ON THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, I ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES SIX. NOTHING. THANK YOU. AND I HOPE THAT HELPS THE THE CITIZENS TO LIKE WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO EACH OTHER.

SO AND THAT IS OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.