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MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MAY 19TH, 2026. WE HAVE ALL MEMBERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER ALLEN AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. AND SINCE WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW[Review of Agenda]
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, PLUS WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TRAINING. WE CAN KEEP OUR. QUESTIONS AND STUFF TO THE 200 ZERO FOOT WHEN WE GO INTO THE MEETING AND KIND OF GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE[Reports on Prior City Council Meetings and/or Current Applications (as needed)]
FROM LAST MEETING, WE DID HAVE A. POSTPONE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 7TH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 21ST.OKAY. THEN FIRST ON OUR BUSINESS ITEM IS ITEM EIGHT THREE A, WHICH IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS. REVISED RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS FOR THE STREET LIGHTING. AND LOOKS LIKE COREY FREILICH. COREY. SO YOU'RE IS HE IS HE MAY BE HERE. HE WORKS UNDERNEATH COREY TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT IF NOT, I'LL COME UP. OKAY, THAT'S WEST JORDAN UPDATES AND STANDARDS REGULARLY. THIS IS FOR THE STREETLIGHT STANDARD. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS MORE THAN ONCE. I THINK THIS LAST TIME THAT WE DID IT, WE I THINK YOU DID IT AT THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR. HE'S AN ELECTRICIAN WHO SAID, PLEASE DO THIS AND WE'LL BE SAFER AND BETTER FOR PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY, IS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO YOU AND THEN GO TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE STILL STAYING WITH THE STANDARD AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF MY UNDERSTANDING TOO. SO OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. A, THE VALVOLINE INSTANT OIL CHANGE ON 5750 WEST 1700 SOUTH. AND IT LOOKS LIKE.
RAY. YEAH. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF THE NEW FURNITURE ROAD OUT THERE ON COMPREHEND DRIVE, SOUTH. AND THERE THE PROPERTY IS BEING SUBDIVIDED. SO IT WILL BE THERE WILL BE TWO LOTS. THERE'S ONE NOW, AND THIS WILL BE ON THE EASTERNMOST LOT. SO IT'LL BE ON THE CORNER OF SAN DIEGO SOUTH. SO IT'S FOR VALVOLINE INSTANT OIL CHANGE. IT'S GONE THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. THIS IS JUST FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SO OUR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SO YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN LAYOUT BUILDING ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE CHANGES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED AS PART OF THE ACTIVATING THE BUILDING IS PRETTY ATTRACTIVE. IT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. OKAY. AND SO IT'S JUST THE ONE BUILDING. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE SECOND LOT. WE DON'T. YEAH. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. NEXT IS ITEM FOUR B THE DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS PHASE SIX THROUGH TEN A 6637 WEST REYNOLD PEAK WAY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE MARK. YEAH. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST OF THE RESIDENTIAL FOR SUBAREA ONE OF THE DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS MASTER PLANNED AREA. SO THIS IS WHAT WAS FORMERLY JONES, THE JONES RANCH MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
IT'S CALLED DRY ISLANDS NOW. BUT BASICALLY THIS WILL FINISH OUT SUBAREA ONE AS FAR AS POTENTIAL GOES. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 175 TOTAL UNITS. SO 94 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 81 TOWNHOME UNITS. SO TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION. SO JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT LOT LAYOUTS, ROAD LAYOUTS, EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWING THE MASTER PLAN. SO AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN JUST FOR THE TOWNHOME SITE. SO THERE'S TWO TOWNHOME SITES THAT ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE JUST PRETTY MUCH JUST LOOKING AT BUILDING SETBACKS, OPEN SPACE AND BUILDING ARCHITECTURE AS WELL. SO THIS ONE ALSO WENT TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE BACK IN APRIL. OR NO MAJOR COMMENTS OR MAJOR CONCERNS. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. NEXT IS ITEM FIVE, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THE FIRST ONE IS
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TO ADOPT A LAND USE REGULATIONS, COMPLETELY REVISE THE VERSION OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE. GREG, YOU'RE UP AGAIN. IF YOU I DON'T KNOW IF EVERY. I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. MOST STANDARDS UPDATE EVERY FOUR BETWEEN THREE TO 4 OR 5 YEARS.SO THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE IS LIKE EVERY THREE YEARS, INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, THE SAME THING AWAY CENTERS EVERY FOUR. OUR STANDARDS WERE LAST GIVEN A MAJOR UPDATE IN OH SEVEN. SO THAT'S 19 YEARS. A LOT HAS CHANGED IN 19 YEARS. ADDITIONALLY, WHEN WE STARTED THIS, WE HEARD THE FEEDBACK THAT CAN WE MAKE THIS A LITTLE SIMPLER SO THAT IF YOU'RE WORKING IN THE CITY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO WE WENT FROM DIFFERENT BOOKS FOR EACH ONE. TRANSPORTATION THAT HAS LIKE 500 AND A SEWER THAT HAS 500 AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE SEPARATE BOOKS TO ONE BOOK THAT'S ALL TOGETHER. AND IT'S ABOUT 200 AND WELL, MAYBE IT'S 150, I FORGET. I'LL KNOW BY THE TIME OF THE MEETING. WE'VE REALLY SHRUNK THAT DOWN. AND WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS FOR CONTRACTORS, WE'VE TRIED TO PUT THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO BUILD WHAT WE'RE ASKED TO ON A DRAWING. SO IF YOU'RE A CONTRACTOR, YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DRAWING AND YOU'LL KNOW HOW TO DO IT. IF YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, WE HAVE A SECTION AS STANDARDS THAT SHOW YOU HOW TO DO IT, AND THAT'S A SEPARATE SECTION JUST FOR THEM. AND SO AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO MODERNIZE IT A LITTLE BIT. THERE WERE SOME PARTS IN THE OLD CODE THAT COMPETED WITH EACH OTHER. WE TRIED TO REMOVE ALL THOSE AND SIMPLIFY IT. MY ONLY HOPE IS THAT I HAVEN'T SIMPLIFIED IT TOO MUCH, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A CHANCE THAT LIKE LESS REGULATION IS BETTER THAN MORE REGULATION. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THIS UPDATE. I HOPE TO GET YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. SO FAR WE HAVE GONE, WE STARTED IT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE LET THEM LOOK AT IT. WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND THEN WE WENT TO DEVELOPERS. WE'VE HAD IT WITH DEVELOPERS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, AND I'VE ONLY GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK BACK FROM THEM. AND I FINALLY DECIDED, NOPE, OKAY, YOU'VE HAD YOUR TIME. NOW WE'RE COMING TO YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. AND THEN MAYBE IN JULY, I'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND, AND PUT THE FINAL THING OUT THERE. AND MY GUESS IS, AGAIN, WE WILL LOOK AT THIS AGAIN IN THREE YEARS AND WE'LL BE USING IT FOR THREE YEARS. WE'LL KNOW ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE WITH IT. THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THAT? ANY QUESTIONS? CITY COUNCIL? I BROUGHT THE BOOKS, BUT THEY'RE HARD TO BRING. I COULDN'T, SO I JUST HAVE NUMBERS FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT IS FIVE B AT 7800 SOUTH COMMERCIAL REZONE FROM A C M HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO A CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE. RAY. YEAH. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON NORTHWEST CORNER OF AIRPORT ROAD AND 7800 SOUTH. SO IT'S JUST RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE FROM THE AIRPORT PROPERTY ITSELF. THIS IS NEXT TO THE SUN. YES. IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE SUN.
IT'S THAT VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO THERE'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF ACRES THERE.
IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN DIVIDED INTO THREE LOTS. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C M, WHICH IS A HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONE, AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY A LITTLE DIFFERENT MORE INTO THE THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE C G ZONE, WHICH IS A LESS INTENSIVE USE THAN THE CMC. SO YOU'VE GOT THE SUN BELT, AND THEN THERE ARE A BUNCH OF OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONES OR LIGHT MANUFACTURING ZONE PROPERTY, EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE. THE EAST SIDE IS STILL IN THE AIRPORT SOUTH 7800 SOUTH. THERE'S A ZONED M ONE, BUT WE THINK THAT THE THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS TO TO SUPPORT THIS ON THE FUTURE LAND. REGARDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT'S LOCATED A BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU THINK OF THOSE. IT'S LIKE THE RESEARCH PARK. IT'S UP TO YOU.
YOU HAVE BIG BUILDINGS SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF OPEN SPACE. THE AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ABOUT 11 ACRES IN SIZE, BUT A BIG CHUNK OF THAT IS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE SUN BELT. THERE'S A UDOT FACILITY THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM. NONE OF THESE ARE REALLY VISIBLE RESEARCH PARK. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHAT IS A
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CONSISTENT LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY? WE THINK THAT 7800 SOUTH IS IT SERVES JUST A LOT OF RESIDENTS TO THE WEST. IT'S IT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE IN THE CITY. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT GOING WITH THE C, THE CG ZONING WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE I THINK IT JUST ADDS FOR BETTER INTEGRATION OF THOSE USES OR KIND OF A TRANSITION OF THOSE USES FROM 7000 SOUTH IN TERMS OF THE VISIBILITY, THE APPEARANCE OF THAT. PLUS, I THINK THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CG ZONE ARE BETTER ORIENTED TOWARDS SERVING RESIDENTS. SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIT FOR THAT. THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY JUST AFFECTS THOSE THOSE THREE LOTS.THEY WILL BE SUBDIVIDED THE PROPERTY IN FOUR LOTS IN THE FUTURE. SO JUST GOT A CONCEPT PLAN. I THINK THAT WAS INCLUDED. SO. ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAY. OKAY. NEXT IS THE SUGAR FACTORY ON CREEK TOWNHOMES, 1790 WEST SUGAR FACTORY ROAD FROM REZONE FROM A 1.78 ACRES TO A CC DASH F CITY CENTER FRAME. AND IT LOOKS LIKE MARK. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING FROM A CC F TO A CC R. SO SO BASICALLY A CITY CENTER FRAME TO A CITY CENTER RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH. SO THERE'S, THERE'S BASICALLY TWO PARTS TO THIS. THE FIRST IS THE REZONE ONE FROM THAT CCF TO CCR. AND THEN WITH IT BEING IN THE CITY CENTER ZONE, THAT REQUIRES A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE MAJOR THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT, BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING FROM AMENITIES TO ARCHITECTURE TO FENCING, PARKING, THAT KIND OF THING. SO, SO IT'S PRETTY DETAILED. AND AT LEAST FOR RED ZONE ANYWAY, BUT BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS 23 TOWNHOMES JUST DOWN HERE. IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE KRAMER LAW OFFICE IS ON THE ROAD, IT'S BASICALLY JUST PRETTY MUCH BEHIND THAT, AT LEAST THE SOUTHWEST OF THAT. SO IT'S KIND OF IN A REALLY NARROW, LANDLOCKED. HIS PROPERTY. SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS JUST KIND OF A SINGLE DRIVEWAY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT WITH TOWNHOMES KIND OF ON THE PERIMETER. AND THE BINGHAM CREEK ALSO RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY. SO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, THEY'LL HAVE KIND OF THEIR MAIN SIGNATURE OPEN SPACE, WHICH WILL BE KIND OF A MINI PRIVATE PARK WITH SOME BENCHES AND GAZEBOS LANDSCAPED, AND THEN A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS ACROSS THE CREEK. SO, SO YEAH, FOR TONIGHT, WE'RE WITH THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT BUILDING ARCHITECTURE AND THAT THAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE DESIGN ■REVIEW COMMITTEE BACK IN NOVEMBER 2025.
SO THERE'S A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT. I'LL GO OVER IN THE MEETING. SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN INCLUDED. SOME HAVE BEEN TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT. THEN THERE'S ALSO A FEW ITEMS WITH FENCING AND LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THAT A LOT OF PLANNING COMMISSION WEIGH IN ON AS WELL.
BUT THOSE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARK? OKAY. LAST IS ITEM D THE DIAZ LOT AT 8305 SOUTH 2200 WEST AND IT IS REZONED FROM 0.43 ACRES FROM A P DASH F PUBLIC FACILITY ZONE TO AN R1 EIGHT SINGLE FAMILY ZONE, 800 ZERO SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM, AND MARK 0.43 OR 4.3 .43. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. YEAH, IT'S NOT. AND THAT THAT INCLUDES THE CANAL. SO THAT DOES IT DOES.
OKAY. SO YEAH. SO THIS IS A REZONE OF A REALLY SMALL PARCEL JUST SOUTH OF THE SWIMMING POOL FACILITY ON 2200 WEST. I WAS SAYING THERE'S THE, THE PROPERTY. WELL, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ACTUALLY CONSISTS OF TWO PIECES. RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTY MAPS ARE BASED ON OUR
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RESEARCH ARE INCORRECT. SO THE APPLICANT'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE SOUTH JORDAN CANAL COMPANY TO BASICALLY BUY THE LAND THAT THEY. SO THE CANAL COMPANY OWNS THE CANAL ITSELF, AND THE APPLICANT OWNS THE REST OF IT. SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY RECONCILE WITH THE COUNTY MAPS TO BASICALLY HAVE THE CANAL PROPERTY DEEDED OVER TO THEM. AND SO THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THAT. AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'LL ACTUALLY HAVE MAINTENANCE EASEMENT FOR THE CANAL COMPANY TO CONTINUE MAINTAINING THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW. IT'S DEEDS HAVE BEEN SIGNED. IT REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE RECORDED. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE DETAIL THAN YOU WANTED TO KNOW. BUT THIS IS JUST A WEEK. REZONE NO AMENDMENTS TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. JUST REALLY TO BUILD JUST ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS A LITTLE BIT TIGHT, LIKE I SAID, WITH THAT CANAL COMPANY, BUT BY ACQUIRING THAT CANAL, IT MAKES THE SETBACKS. BASICALLY, YOU CAN BUILD A HOME REALLY CLOSE CLOSER TO THAT ONE HOME. THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE. IT'S JUST A FRONTAGE PROPERTY ON THE CANAL, I WOULD ASSUME, RIGHT? NOT THAT CANAL OR THEY WANT. YEAH. SO THEY'RE. YES. THE HOUSE THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD WILL BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE BANK JUST BECAUSE THAT IF THEY THE CANAL BECOMES PART OF THEIR PROPERTY, THEN THE SETBACK WOULD BE FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BASE. THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO DO SOME SPECIAL ENGINEERING, BUT A LOT OF THAT'S THROUGH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARK? ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DUNCAN ON THIS ONE. I AM A LONG SHOT POTENTIAL BUYER FOR THIS PROPERTY. I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THE SELLER AT ALL, BUT I KNOW OF THE PROPERTY. I KNOW IT'S CURRENTLY FOR SALE AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING IT. SHOULD I HOLD MYSELF OUT OF THAT? OUT OF THIS BECAUSE OF THAT? THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU DISCLOSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.THE REST COMES DOWN TO BEST PRACTICE. BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE THAT YOU WOULD RECUSE YOURSELF FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSION OR VOTE ON IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. IT'S NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED. AT A MINIMUM, JUST DISCLOSE EITHER AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE 6:00 MEETING OR WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED, JUST TO MAKE THAT SAME DISCLOSURE. OKAY, PERFECT.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I FIGURED I SHOULD ASK. OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO ON TO TRAINING WITH DUNCAN? OKAY. CALVIN, YOU'RE SUPER QUICK BECAUSE I
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KNOW WE GOT TO FINISH 5 OR 10 MINUTES BEFORE WE ARE SO SET UP THE MEETING. JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS TODAY. ONE, SUPER QUICKLY, ONE QUICKLY, SUPER QUICK IS ON NOTICING PUBLIC NOTICING FOR ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, FOR REPORTS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN OUR CURRENT METHODS. A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS NOT JUST BEING COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW, BUT TRYING TO USE TECHNOLOGY THE BEST, BE MORE EFFICIENT, GIVE BETTER NOTICE, DO BETTER WITH EVERYTHING WE DO, MINUTES, YOU NAME IT. AND OUR PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES FOR, YOU KNOW, WITHIN 300FT. THE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE USED TO GO OUT IN AN ENVELOPES FOLDED AND STUFFED IN AN ENVELOPE TOOK A LOT OF TIME. PEOPLE WE FEEL LIKE, ARE NOT AS LIKELY TO OPEN AN ENVELOPE AND READ IT. THIS IS AN EXTRA LARGE, LARGE POSTCARD THAT WE USE NOW. IT'S A HALF A SHEET OF CARDSTOCK. IT'S PERFORATED DOWN THE MIDDLE. WE TURN IT IN HALF THIS SIDE. THE ADDRESS GETS PRINTED ON IT, THE CITY LOGOS THERE, AND I'LL PASS THIS AROUND. BUT THIS WAS ONE FROM ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT MEETINGS. BUT IT JUST HAS ALL THE MAIN INFORMATION. SO IF YOU KNOW, IF I LIVED WITHIN 300FT OF THAT APPLICATION, I'D RECEIVE THAT. I WOULD KNOW IF I WAS INTERESTED. THEY REALLY NEAT THING ABOUT THAT CARD IS, IS IN A, IN A QUICK GLANCE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY THE TYPE OF APPLICATION WHERE IT'S LOCATED. THERE'S EVEN A LITTLE MINIATURE MAP, BUT THEN THERE'S A QR CODE, RIGHT? THERE'S A WEBSITE AND THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS MORE INFORMATION, THEN THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY ACCESS THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, EVEN IF IT'S TWO IN THE MORNING ON THE WEBSITE OR A LITTLE USING QR CODE OR DIRECTLY ON THAT WEB PAGE. SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MAY NOT KNOW HOW DID THEY GET THAT NOTICE? THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. COOL THING. IT WORKS GREAT. ANOTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON IS NOT JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO THE MEETING, BUT THEN THE MINUTES AFTERWARDS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT RECENTLY. IT'S NOT JUST[00:20:03]
THE WRITTEN MINUTES, IT'S THE RECORDING. ALAN ANDERSON TALKS A LOT ABOUT RECENTLY, COUNCIL STAFF DIRECTOR THAT ABOUT HOW THE RECORDINGS WORK. RIGHT. AND YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR TECHNOLOGY AND YOUR INTEGRATED INTO USING PRIME GOV, WHICH HAS THE WHOLE PACKET OF INFORMATION FOR THE MEETINGS. IT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC ALSO TO ACCESS A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. GREAT RESOURCE.IT'S TIED IN WITH SWAG. AND REMEMBER THAT GIVES KIND OF A VERBATIM LOOK, YOU KNOW, WORD FOR WORD WHAT'S INVOLVED IN EACH MEETING, WHETHER IT'S PLANNING COMMISSION, COUNCIL OR EVEN SOME OTHER MEETINGS. THAT'S ONE OF OUR RECORDS OF A MEETING, RIGHT? THE AUDIO AND VIDEO PLUS THE SWAG IT. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S THE WRITTEN MINUTES. AND SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO JUST GO RIGHT TO THE LAW. THAT'S PARTLY WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
WHAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR THE LAW? WHAT'S IDEAL, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF ETHICAL ISSUES OR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, RIGHT? THERE'S ALWAYS THE LEGAL MINIMUM AND THEN THERE'S THE IDEAL OR AT LEAST BEST PRACTICE. MAYBE IDEAL IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT BEST PRACTICE. SAME THING WHEN IT COMES TO MINUTES. EVEN THOUGH RECORDINGS ARE A HARD, FAST RULE, WE WANT TO KEEP 100% OF THE RECORDING, RIGHT? WE CAN'T CUT OUT ANYTHING. SO IF THE MEETING IS 30 MINUTES LONG, IT'S A 39 MINUTE RECORDING, RIGHT? AND BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MINUTES, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY. LIKE I SAY, SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO JUST SEE WHAT THE LAW IS. THE LAW FITS ON FRONT AND BACK OF ONE PIECE OF PAPER. SO IT'S TWO PAGES. WHAT'S INTERESTING. SO IT'S FAIRLY CONCISE. AND REALLY THE FIRST PAGE IS MOST OF IT. BUT THESE THIS CODE SECTION AND UTAH CODE ARE, ARE THE RULES FOR ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR ALL PUBLIC BODIES. RIGHT. AND I'LL WRAP THIS UP IN MY REMARKS. SO IT APPLIES TO COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION BOARDS ALL ACROSS THE STATE. RIGHT. AND AND WHAT IT BASICALLY DOES IS IN THAT VERY FIRST PART, ON THE FIRST PAGE, IT SAYS, WRITTEN MINUTES OF AN OPEN MEETING SHALL INCLUDE. AND YOU'VE GOT JUST THOSE FEW THINGS. THAT'S THE LEGAL MINIMUM, RIGHT? AND THEN AND AT LEAST THE SUBSTANCE IN BRIEF OF WHAT EACH PERSON SAYS, WHETHER IT'S A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC BODY, MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OR THOSE THAT COME AND PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC HEARING. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE TRUE LEGAL MINIMUM IS YOU COULD JUST HAVE A LINK TO THIS PERSON, COMMENTED LINK, AND THEN YOU CAN GO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAID. THIS PERSON COMMENTED LINK. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PLACES DO THAT, BUT THAT'S POSSIBLE. IT COULD JUST BE A FEW WORDS. SOMETIMES PEOPLE GO MORE IN DEPTH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, SO AS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AS MUCH AS SOMETIMES WE THINK. AND OF COURSE, THAT IS THE OFFICIAL ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BOULDER. THE MINUTES ARE THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THE MEETING. RIGHT. BUT THEY'RE NOT THE COMPLETE RECORD. BUT IT IS THE OFFICIAL RECORD. SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TOO, IN THIS CONTEXT IS WHAT WHAT IS BEST IN THIS INSTANCE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION? IDEALLY, I THINK IN MY MIND IT'S NOT OVERLY LONG. A SWEET SPOT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST A LINK, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING REALLY VERBOSE. A LOT OF TIMES WE WE GET USED TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE NEED. AND FRANKLY, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD MORE THAN WHAT WE NEED, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS. AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S SOMETIMES LESS IS BETTER BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MEETING. CAN LOOK AT A SHORTER SET OF MINUTES, SEE THE NAMES THAT THAT STICK OUT OF WHO MADE COMMENTS, GO RIGHT TO WHATEVER THOSE COMMENTS ARE OR RIGHT TO THE DECISION. AND IF THEY WANT TO KNOW MORE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REST OF OUR TECHNOLOGY, THAT'S PRIME GOT TO SWAG IT. THEY CAN GO FIND OUT MORE DETAIL THAT WAY, RIGHT? ANYWAY, ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT. I KNOW WE'VE GOT TO GET INTO THE MEETING. SO HOW WOULD WE IMPLEMENT THAT. I THINK WE'RE KIND OF SORT OF DOING THAT ALREADY. I THINK SOME OF OUR MINUTES ARE MORE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. RIGHT. SO I THINK MAINLY JUST YOUR FEEDBACK AS WE
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GO ALONG, MAYBE TO GIVE KAREN, IF YOU'RE STILL GETTING, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU NEED, THEN WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. AND THEN LARRY'S GOT SOME COMMENTS. SO, SO EVERYONE, THIS IS ANNA. SHE'S OUR NEW PLANNER. WELCOME, WELCOME. SECOND WEEK. SO DON'T SCARE HER OFF. IS THAT WHY WE DIDN'T MEET ON CINCO DE MAYO? SO SHE ACTUALLY HAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT SHE'S WORKING ON. SO BE KIND TO. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.