Jun 02, 2026 Committee of the Whole

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BIG BITE OF CHIPS, YOU START RECORDING FOR ALL THE WORLD TO HEAR. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. IT IS JUNE 2ND, 2026, AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO BEGIN THIS COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. WE HAVE HERE IN PERSON FOUR OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAVE MYSELF, VICE CHAIR, WIGDAHL. WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SHELDON AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. WE EXPECT TO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER JACOB ONLINE AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS. COUNCIL MEMBERS LAMB AND WHITELOCK HAVE

[a. Property Tax Impact Schedule for Fiscal Year 2027]

IT PASSED IN THIS YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND BY DOING SO, PLACE NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR TAXING ENTITIES CONSIDERING A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. NOW, WHILE NOT REQUIRED. OH OOPS. THE CITY IS CHOOSING TO FOLLOW A BEST PRACTICE FROM THE UTAH LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS, WHICH RECOMMENDS INCLUDING THE PROPERTY TAX IMPACT SCHEDULE AS A SEPARATE AGENDA. TIME. IN ANY MEETING, THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET IS DISCUSSED. THIS WORK SESSION RIGHT HERE WILL INCLUDE A DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET, AND THE CITY IS CONSIDERING A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. THE COUNCIL ACCEPTED THE PROPERTY TAX IMPACT SCHEDULE AT THE MAY 5TH COUNCIL MEETING, AND IT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THIS ITEM IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY ACTION BY COUNCIL. ANY RECORDING OR OTHER USE OF THIS WITHOUT EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL IS PROHIBITED. WITH

[b. Discussion of the Fiscal Year 2027 Tentative Budget]

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IT. THEY'RE AVERAGING A LITTLE OVER THAT. WHAT WE CAN CALCULATE ABOUT 1500 CUSTOMER SERVICE CALLS A MONTH, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THEIR CELL PHONES AND THE TEAMS CALLS THAT THEY GET AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO CINDY FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE ALSO COMES OUT TWO DAYS A WEEK. AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THOSE CALLS. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THEY GET AROUND 2000 CALLS PROBABLY WITH THOSE CLOSE TO THAT EVERY MONTH. SO A LOT OF THAT IS TIME NOT HELPING US, WHETHER IT'S WITH CONTRACTS OR INVENTORY, PURCHASING A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. SO WE STRONGLY SUPPORT DENISE AND HER REQUEST FOR THAT. WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AT ALL OR. YEAH, NOT ALL THE WAY WARMED UP YET. THAT PART TIME PERSON ISN'T BUDGETED HERE THOUGH. SO THIS IS THERE'S TWO REQUESTS THAT MY DEPARTMENT ONE IS A PASSPORT OFFICE. AND THAT IS WHERE THE TWO PART TIMERS ARE GIVEN UP FOR THE FULL TIME. SO THE PART TIMER AT PUBLIC WORKS IS UNDER YOUR THE CURRENT PART TIMER THAT SERVES OUT THERE A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK. YES. GOT IT. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BEFOREHAND AND SAID, WE CAN OFFER A PART TIMER. I CAN'T DO IT PERMANENTLY BECAUSE THAT PART TIMER COMES BACK WHEN WE GET TOO BUSY AND CITY HALL, BUT OCCASIONALLY SHE'LL SIT OUT THERE AND HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE PHONE CALLS, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE LIKE, OH, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FULL TIME. SO THEY CAME TO US WITH THE REQUEST, AND I ENDORSED THAT REQUEST. AND AND WE PUT IT IN TO ASK FOR BUDGETING, BUT IT WAS A REQUEST THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING FROM THOSE DIRECTORS. WE'RE JUST SUPPORTING IT AS WELL. OKAY. THANKS. OKAY. LET ME GO BACK TO THAT. WHAT'S THAT? CAN WE GO BACK? YEAH. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CUSTOMER FACING SIDE, THE TAXPAYER FACING SIDE, AND I JUST SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF IT TO THE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. NO,

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I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT. IS THAT THROUGH C WORKS? NO, IT'S THROUGH A WHOLE DIFFERENT SYSTEM. SO WE TRIED THROUGH CITY WORKS. IT WASN'T POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT THIS NEW SIGN ALSO. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE RIGHT NOW IT IS 610. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZACH JACOB IS ONLINE. AND ONE THING I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS UPCOMING YEAR. SO WE HAVE PLANTED A LARGE, VERY LARGE, ABOUT A 20 FOOT BEAUTIFUL FIR TREE RIGHT ALONG 70TH, 78TH SOUTH AND CEMETERY. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET POWER AND LIGHT IT UP AS A CHRISTMAS TREE THERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOX WITH FREE ORNAMENTS FOR PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CHRISTMAS TIME TO BE ABLE TO COME AND RIGHT REST IN PEACE OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO KNOW TO A LOVED ON THE TREE. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING COOL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS YEAR. IT'S ON THE GROUNDS OF THE CEMETERY. YEP. LIVE TREE. THAT'S A LIVE TREE. YES. SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL YOU'LL SEE IT THERE. NOW IT'S GOT A LOT OF COUPLE OF STAKES IN IT. AND THEY SAID IT'S GORGEOUS. AND THIS IS ALL THE INDIRECT COSTS THAT YOU HAVE. YEAH. THAT AND THE THE SOFTWARE. YEAH. I WANTED TO ASK YOU SEE THAT JUMP FROM 52,000 TO 92,000. THE ANNUAL FEE FOR SOFTWARE WAS THERE. AND THEN THERE ALSO THE RISK MANAGEMENT FEES. SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT JUMP WASN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO JUST SOMETHING. IT WAS MOVING SOME OF THE COST TO THE CEMETERY FROM RISK MANAGEMENT, AND THEN THEN ADDING SOME OF THAT SOFTWARE THERE. BUT ALL THE OTHER COSTS ARE REALLY CONSISTENT, HONESTLY. SURE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IN PAST BUDGETS SESSIONS, I RECALL SOME DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLY NEEDING TO RAISE THE COST OF BURIAL AND PLOT PURCHASE OF A PLOT AND THAT KIND OF THING. IS THAT IS THAT STILL IN THE WORKS? IS THAT WE WE JUST DID OUR WITH THE COLUMBARIUM. I WANT TO SAY WE DID ADJUST THOSE RATES AT THE SAME TIME, BUT I COULD BE MISTAKEN SO I CAN FIND OUT. I KNOW WE'RE FAIRLY LOW ON THE LOW END, BUT THE HARD PART IS THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SPACE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. SO HOW IS THE SELL OUT THAT SUCH A WEIRD QUESTION TO ASK, BUT HOW IS THE CAPACITY OF THE COLUMBARIUM? OH WELL, AS FAR AS WHAT? HOW IS IT GROWN? OR, YOU KNOW, JUST PEOPLE OR WHAT DOES IT HOLD? YEAH, YEAH. WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF IT? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I SAID, THIS IS WEIRD. OH, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE? YEAH. OH, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. AND THEN HOW MANY HOW MANY MORE CAN I. I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE NEED ANOTHER ONE? NOT AT THIS POINT, NO. IT HOLDS. IT HOLDS QUITE A BIT. I HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

SORRY. YEAH. THOSE LAST YEAR. BUT HAS IT BEEN SOMETHING THAT ONCE IT WAS ANNOUNCED WE'VE SEEN. OH YEAH. A LOT OF INTEREST. WE HAVEN'T. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW. I CAN GET NUMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PER WEEK WE AVERAGE BUT STILL A NEW THING THAT WE JUST AGAIN, IT WAS LATE FALL THAT THAT GOT PUT OUT. SO YEAH, THE NUMBERS AND GET TO YOU. I'VE KEPT MEANING TO ASK ABOUT THAT HOW IT'S BEING RECEIVED. AND WE DO KNOW, I MEAN, THROUGH THE CONFERENCES AND JUST THROUGH TALKING WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS, CREMATION BURIALS ARE VERY MUCH ON THE

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CAN YOU EXPAND ON THE MANAGEMENT PIECE? SURE. SO RISK MANAGEMENT FOR THE PREMIUMS FOR WORKERS COMPENSATION, UNEMPLOYMENT, AS WELL AS PREMIUMS FOR PROPERTY INSURANCE AND THE INSURANCE FOR EQUIPMENT, ETC. IT USED TO BE JUST EXPENSED IN THE GENERAL FUND UNDER NON-DEPARTMENTAL, AND IT WAS ONE BIG NUMBER. SO IF YOU LOOKED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, IT WOULD SAY LIKE $1.3 MILLION OF PAYMENT TO THE RISK MANAGEMENT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF RISK MANAGEMENT ISN'T LIKE MY DEPARTMENT. I HAVE HARDLY ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE UNDER RISK MANAGEMENT. IT'S TYPICALLY PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE, FIRE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO THIS YEAR WE CREATED AN ALLOCATION METHOD BASED ON CLAIMS BASED ON WHAT THEY OWN, BASED ON THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS, AND DISTRIBUTED IT TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. SO IT'S EQUAL TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. IT'S JUST SHOWN IN DIFFERENT PLACES. IT'S JUST PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEAH. IT SHOWS THE TRUE COST OF THE SERVICES THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT BETTER. OKAY. WHEN IT'S ONE LUMP SUM AND NOT DEPARTMENTAL, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRUE COST OF OPERATING THE CEMETERY INCLUDES BECAUSE THE RISK PORTION OF IT'S VERY YEAH, IT'S JUST THAT $40,000 JUMP. AND I REALIZE THERE ARE OTHER THINGS INVOLVED. I'M LIKE, OKAY, I WANT TO KNOW. YEAH, YEAH. LIKE HALF THAT JUMP IS REALLY A TRANSFER FROM NONPROFITS. IT'S ALL GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THOUGH. I MEAN, ABOUT 18,000 OF IT IS TO SOME SITES. AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. WHAT'S NEXT ON YOUR TOUR? THE FUN ONE I GET. WELL, ACTUALLY THEY'RE ALL FUN EVENTS.

SO WE ARE REQUESTING WE CURRENTLY HAVE A INTERN PART TIME THAT THE SEASONAL INTERN THAT HELPS US THROUGHOUT THE SEASON WITH OUR NUMBER OF EVENTS AND A LOT OF THE PLANNING THAT GOES ON IN THE WINTER TIME WHERE WE HAVE REQUESTED TO MAKE IT JUST A YEAR ROUND, PART TIME POSITION. IT ALSO HELPS A LOT OF OUR OUR EVENT STAFF, IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO ALL OF OUR FIELD SCHEDULING. SO ALL OF THE YOUTH RECREATION LEAGUES IS RUN THROUGH THE EVENTS DIVISION AS WELL. AND IT'S ONE OF OUR FULL TIME POSITIONS RIGHT NOW. AND NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ARTS BUILDING, IT'S YEAR ROUND AS WELL. IT'S RIGHT THROUGH THERE. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT SEASONAL INTERN AND THAT'LL BE A PART TIME POSITION.

THAT'S WHAT THAT REQUEST IS FOR. AND THEN ALSO BEAT DAYS. SO LOTS OF PROBABLY LOTS OF QUESTIONS ON BEAT DAYS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW. LET ME ALSO EXPAND ON AN INTERN TO A PART TIME POSITION. WHILE THERE'S NO COST DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT'S 1040 HOURS, IT'S USED DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT? YOU CAN HIRE AN INTERN FOR FOUR MONTHS AND WORK THEM FULL TIME. OR YOU CAN HIRE A PART TIME PERSON AND WORK THEM 20 HOURS A WEEK, ALL YEAR LONG. AND THAT'S WHAT CORY WAS ASKING FOR, IS SOMEONE THAT CAN BE THERE CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND KNOW THEY HAVE A CONSISTENT POSITION VERSUS, HEY, YOU'RE HERE FOR FOUR MONTHS FULL TIME. YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE THREE INTERNS TO SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE YEAR PLAN. ONCE THEY'RE DONE, YOU TOSS THEM AWAY FOR FOUR MONTHS AND YOU'RE OUT FOUR MONTHS AND YOU'RE OUT. NO, I LIKE ONE FOUR MONTH PERIOD. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRANSITIONING THAT TO A CONSISTENT 20 HOUR A WEEK. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT INTERNS AS A GREAT WAY TO GO, BUT SOMEONE GETTING PAID BY THE CITY, I THINK, PUTS A LITTLE MORE EFFORT INTO IT AND HAS MORE SKIN IN THE GAME. SO AND SO. THE JUMP FROM 803,000 TO 903,000. THAT'S THE 100,000 FOR EIGHT DAYS. YES. CORRECT. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY KEEPING THE EXACT SAME BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR FOR YOUR EVENTS. THERE'S A FEW EVENTS WHERE WE'RE EITHER GOING TO NOT DO AS OFTEN OR SOME COST SAVINGS OR WE OR POSSIBLY GET A DISCONTINUED, SUCH AS THE CRAFTS AND CRAVINGS AND SOME OF THESE SMALLER EVENTS. SO WE CAN FOCUS ON LARGER, THESE LARGER EVENTS. AND WE'LL ALSO SHIFT THAT MONEY A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEEKDAYS. BUT IT'S ALSO OUR GOAL WITH IT BEFORE WEEKDAYS IS TO GET AS MUCH SPONSORSHIP AS POSSIBLE. BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN'T SHOW. IT'S HARD TO GET SPONSORS FOR AN EVENT THAT'S NOT APPROVED OR PLANNED REALLY. RIGHT. SO SO THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO IS TO COVER SOME OF THAT OR I SAY ALL OF IT WITH SPONSORSHIP. WELL, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AS THAT GOES, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE EVENTS THAT CAN MAKE MONEY AS WELL. I THINK, TOO, THAT THIS $100,000 IS KIND OF THAT RAMP UP, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE AN EVENT, GET YOUR WORD OUT AS TO WHAT YOUR VISION IS FOR THE EVENT AND THAT KIND OF THING BEFORE THE EVENT OCCURS. BUT THE EVENT'S SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST OF 2027, SO THERE'LL BE SOME INVESTMENT AT THE BEGINNING TO GET THE WORD OUT, SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING, AND THEN ALSO PURCHASE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WILL SUPPORT THAT EVENT, BUT THAT THE ACTUAL

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WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED AT LEAST ONE EMAIL. WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT. AND SO THIS COULD BE THE ONE THAT GETS THE MOST. AND IT IS ABOUT A FIFTH OF THE INCREASE. SO WHAT I'D LIKE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL COULD LOOK AT AND HOW WE HANDLE THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO AND PROBABLY FOR, FOR YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL WHAT MIGHT BE A PROS AND CONS OF IF WE TOOK THAT 100,000 AND INSTEAD OF HAVING IT IN THE BUDGET AND THE TAX INCREASE, MAKE IT PART OF A RESIDUAL KIND OF THING WHERE WE JUST TAKE THE MONEY AND, AND TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET, BUT STILL HAVE THE MONEY. SO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. SO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF RESERVES IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WOULDN'T HURT THE RESERVES TOO MUCH, RIGHT? TO TAKE IT OUT OF RESERVES AND NOT ACTUALLY BUDGET IT AS A TAX INCREASE OR AS AN ONGOING REVENUE INCREASE, ESPECIALLY NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE OVERALL. YOU COULD FUND THE FIRST YEAR OF OF THE EVENT IN 2028 USING SOME OF YOUR RESERVES AS WELL, UNTIL YOU GOT TO THE POINT, RIGHT? YOU COULD BRING THAT TAX INCREASE DOWN. IT WOULD SAVE ABOUT $1.79 PER HOUSEHOLD TO TAKE THIS EVENT OUT OF THE PROPERTY TAX IMPACT SCHEDULE. AND AND IT WOULD TAKE IT OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PIECE, RIGHT? AS SOON AS YOU TOOK IT DOWN AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT WILLING TO GIVE THIS UP. WE'RE NOT WILLING TO PUT IT INTO A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE YET. SO YOU COULD SAY OUR DECISION IS TO FUND IT, BUT OUR DECISION IS TO FUND IT WITH RESERVES AND NOT TO A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. SO THERE'S A PRO THERE IN THAT. YOU LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, YOU'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT IT. YOU DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT IT IS YET. SO DO YOU WANT TO PULL AN ONGOING REVENUE STREAM FOR THAT EVENT YET. RIGHT. THE CON IS, IS THAT IF IT BECOMES A LARGE EVENT, SOMETHING THAT IS EXPECTED BY YOUR PUBLIC OR YOU FEEL LIKE AS A COMMUNITY IDENTITY RESOURCE, THIS IS A GOOD EVENT TO HAVE, IT MIGHT COST $350,000, RIGHT? THE WESTERN STAMPEDE IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. ARE YOU WILLING THAT YEAR, LIKE IF YOU COULD PROBABLY DO THIS AND MAYBE EVEN THE FIRST FULL YEAR, BUT AFTER THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE PULLING A TRIGGER THAT SAYS WE'RE WILLING TO DO A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE TO LIFT THE FULL AMOUNT. AND SOMETIMES THAT BECOMES STICKER SHOCK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE LIKE, I MEAN, WE'RE DOING AN EVENT FOR $350,000. THIS IS KIND OF RAMPING IT UP AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH $100,000 AND SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET, WHAT KIND OF SPONSORSHIPS WE CAN GET, WHAT KIND OF REVENUE THIS BRINGS FORTH THAT KIND OF THING. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIFT IF YOU HAVE TO LIFT AGAIN QUITE AS MUCH. SO THE PRO IS YOU CAN TAKE IT OFF NOW, BUT YOU WOULD END UP LIKELY HAVING TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE UNLESS WE HAD ANOTHER ONGOING REVENUE STREAM THAT WOULD FILL THAT GAP. WOULDN'T WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES TO THE 350,000 ANYWAY? SO LIKE, EITHER WAY, THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. IT'S A SMALLER RAISE IF YOU'VE ALREADY RAISED IT 100,000 THIS YEAR. YEAH. THEN YOU'RE ONLY RAISING IT 250. IF YOU IF YOU TOTAL, YOU NEED 350.

RIGHT. I SEE, SO I GUESS IT'S DEPENDING ON YOUR FINANCIAL STRATEGY, RIGHT? IF YOU WANT TO LIFT A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME, WHICH HAS BEEN OUR STRATEGY ONGOING, RIGHT, TO JUST GENTLY LIFT THAT TAX UP SO THERE'S NOT AS MUCH OF A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYER. BUT YEAH, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? RIGHT? DO YOU TAKE AWAY THE EVENT? DO YOU PUT IT INTO RESERVES OR DO YOU USE RESERVES? OR DO YOU LIFT A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME. THAT WOULD BE YOUR DECISION. SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IN THE COUNCIL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE.

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TO RESERVE. I THINK IF WE TOOK OUT 50 AND HALF AND HALF IT, IT PUT US ALMOST RIGHT AT 2% RIGHT CLOSE TO THAT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD SAY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE YOU MIGHT LOOK AT ON THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE NINTH, IF IF THERE IS A BIG HULLABALOO ABOUT THIS. YEAH, THAT IS A HARD THING, BUT IT IS A THING WHERE. THIS YOU SAID ABOUT 170 $101.79 PER HOUSEHOLD, RIGHT. IS WHAT THIS TAX INCREASE DOES FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, FOR THE WHOLE YEAR ON AVERAGE, FOR FOR JUST THIS, OUR TAX INCREASE IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE UNDER $9 WITH THE WITH WHAT WE HAVE. THE WHOLE THING IS A LITTLE UNDER $9 WHERE, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS CLOSE TO A FIFTH OF OF THE BUDGET. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, $1.80 PER HOUSEHOLD, WHICH MAYBE WE TOLD EVERYONE, IF YOU COME TO BEAT DAYS, WE'LL GIVE YOU A COUPON GOOD FOR $1.80 WORTH OF BEATS. I'M KIND OF. NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT YES. CORBIN. SORRY, COUNCIL. JUST A REMINDER. ALSO FROM THE RETREAT, THIS STEMMED FROM THE DISCUSSION OF RETREAT IN JANUARY AND THE PLAN IN THE SUMMER OF 2027 IS WE RAMPED DOWN SOME OF THE WESTERN STAMPEDE ACTIVITIES AND SHIPPED THEM OUT TO BE. SO IT'S NOT. KEEP DOING EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING AT WESTERN STAMPEDE AND AT BEAT DAYS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFT. MOVING THE CARNIVAL FROM THE WESTERN STAMPEDE OUT TO BEAT DAYS, MOVING SOME OF THE OTHER ANCILLARY ACTIVITIES FROM WESTERN STAMPEDE OUT TO WESTERN STAMPEDE WOULD STILL BE THE RODEO, THE PARADE, THE FIREWORKS. PROBABLY SOME VENDOR FAIRS, AND STILL A LOT OF THE OTHER. A LOT OF THE STUFF IS A SHIFT, NOT WHOLESALE. AND THEN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING, WHERE'S YOUR CARNIVAL? JUST YOU WAIT. YEAH. A WEEK LATER, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO ONE THING I, I DO, AND WE BROUGHT THIS UP A LITTLE BIT BACK IN OUR RETREAT, BUT IT'S COME A LITTLE MORE TO THE FOREFRONT NOW, AN EVENT LIKE THIS OUT IN THE WEST AND IN A DIFFERENT THING. AND I THINK NOT BEING TIED TO THE RODEO, WHICH MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE DOING MORE, WE'RE KIND OF DOING THE SAME. BUT NOW IT HAS MORE OF A LOOK OF OF MORE, AND ESPECIALLY IN ANOTHER LOCATION WITH THE CITY. I THINK IT GIVES US A BETTER LOOK AS A CITY. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THIS KIND OF THING STARTS SHOWING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL BUSINESSES COMING IN, ALL THESE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON, TRYING TO HAVE THEM ALL AT ONE TIME. NOT ONLY DOES IT TAX OUR EVENTS TEAM, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF MAKES IT A YEAH, YEAH, IT KIND OF YEAH, NOW WE CAN SEPARATE, WE CAN DO THESE THINGS. I THINK ALSO WHAT I LIKE, AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I DON'T THINK ANYONE LOOKED AT THE CARNIVAL AS A PRIDE OF WEST JORDAN, BUT A BEAT DAY IS, IS SOMETHING WE CAN OWN AND HAVE PRIDE IN THAT THIS IS OUR, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER CITY HAS A SOMETHING DAYS WE HAVE THIS PLUS THE WESTERN STAMPEDE. AND I THINK IT KIND OF GIVES US SOMETHING THAT THAT MAYBE WE CAN EVEN START LOOKING AS THIS BEING MORE OUR SIGNATURE EVENT, EVEN MORE SO THAN THE, THE RODEO, BECAUSE THIS CAN BE, LIKE I SAID, WEST JORDAN CENTRIC INSTEAD OF WESTERN STAMPEDE, WHICH DOESN'T ONLY AS PART OF WEST JORDAN AND ITS NAME. SOME OF THE OTHER REASONS FOR THE COST INCREASE STEMMING FROM THE RETREAT WE HEARD ABOUT THESE DAYS, BUT ALSO. COUNCIL EXPRESSED A LOT OF INTEREST IN MUSIC BEING GETTING MORE MUSIC ACTS. WE'VE WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE REACHED OUT. MUSIC IS EXPENSIVE, THOUGH. IT'S SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF THROWING THESE EVENTS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET BIGGER ACTS. AND SO WE'RE STARTING WITH SMALL AND HOPING TO GET SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME LOCAL ACTS. BUT OUR HOPE IS AS THE YEARS PROGRESS THAT WE WILL, IT COULD BE A BIGGER EVENT WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO GET SOME BIGGER AND BIGGER BANDS, BUT THAT WOULD BE JUST FOR ME. AND I WOULD AGREE. YOU START SMALLER. I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, I'M ON THE THE ARTS COUNCIL IN MIDVALE. I HAVE A BUDGET OF LIKE $10,000 TO DO NINE CONCERTS. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. I KNOW IT'S PRETTY EASY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I DO? I GO TO, WELL, THEY WERE TRYING TO BRING IN BANDS FROM ALL OVER AND THEY WOULD GO, THIS IS THE BIGGEST BAND IN COLORADO SPRINGS. AND I WAS GOING, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO IN MIDVALE, UTAH. SO WE JUST STARTED GETTING UTAH BANDS. AND I WOULD GO, I'VE GOT THIS MUCH IF YOU

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BUT WE BUILD IT AS A BEST OF UTAH CONCERT. SO IT'S IT'S ALL AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE BANDS TO. DO YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BEST OF UTAH? BE ON THIS POSTER THAT SAYS YOU'RE PART OF THE BEST OF UTAH. I ALSO MADE THEM BRING THEIR OWN SOUND AND SOUND PERSON. SO WE OUR AV COSTS WENT WAY DOWN OFF OF THAT. SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN THAT, AND I'M WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND HELP YOU WITH ALL OF THAT AND TELL YOU ALL THE BANDS THAT THAT I DEAL WITH, BECAUSE I TURN AWAY ABOUT 25 BANDS EVERY YEAR THAT WILL DO THE SHOW FOR LESS THAN $1,000. SO. ALL RIGHT, CORBIN, THANKS FOR THE REMINDER THAT THIS WAS A SHIFT THAT WE DID ASK FOR THIS. YEAH, I DID REMEMBER THAT.

WE ASKED FOR IT. I DID REMEMBER THAT WE ASKED FOR IT. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S SMART FOR US TO DO SOMETHING OUT ON THE WEST SIDE. YES WE ARE. THAT'S WHERE OUR CITY IS REALLY GROWING. SO THAT'S GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? NO, I THINK THAT I DO THINK THIS WILL BE THE ONE THOUGH THAT WILL HAVE TO BE. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, COREY? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE ASKED AND SOMEONE SEEMS TO BE SORT OF DOUBTING THE VALUE OF ONE OF THESE DAYS OR OF ANY EVENT REALLY, IT'S HARD. I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROFESSIONALLY AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT THE DATA AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR US? SO TO ME, IT TIES ALL TO THAT CITY IDENTITY AND THAT WHETHER YOU WANT TO FULFILL THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IT. AND ESPECIALLY TO ME, THE GROWING WEST SIDE, IT'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY AS, HEY, WE NOW HAVE KIND OF OUR OWN EVENT OUT HERE. AND, AND IT'S A YOUNGER PART OF OUR POPULATION. SO OUR HOPE IS THAT THEY'LL LOOK TO IT AS NOW THEY'RE BECOMING A PART OF WEST JORDAN, BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND HELP OUT IT AND MAKE IT BIGGER SO THEY CAN SAVE SOME OF THOSE COSTS. BUT I KNOW EVENTS IS TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NEED. YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE THEM. BUT TO ME, IT'S IT ALL COMES BACK TO JUST THAT SENSE OF PRIDE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND IT CAN, IF YOU BUILD IT RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MEASURE THOSE DOLLARS THAT HAVE TO BE CHANGED OVER. BUT IF YOU DO EVENTS SUCCESSFULLY KIND OF HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACT ON THE LOCAL GAS STATIONS AND RESTAURANTS. SO THAT'D BE SOME OF OUR HOPE. I DO THINK WHEN YOU SAY WE DON'T NEED EVENTS, I DO THINK WE NEED EVENTS. I DO TOO, BUT I'M SAYING, YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLENTY PEOPLE WHO SAY, I NEVER GO TO THE EVENTS. AND THAT'S THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T DRIVE ON PROBABLY 60% OF THE ROADS HERE IN WEST JORDAN. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD ONLY PAVE THE ROADS I DRIVE ON. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE A CITY AND WE NEED THAT. AND I DO THINK THAT EVENTS, LIKE YOU SAID, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES FROM THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE THE IDEA OF DAYS BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOWS WE'RE TAKING PRIDE IN OUR CITY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL APPEAL TO PEOPLE LOOKING TO PLACE A BUSINESS IN WEST JORDAN. IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD QUANTIFY IT AND SAY, YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE DAYS, INCREASED COMMUNITY SENSE OF COMMUNITY BY X PERCENT. AND AND IS THAT NEW CAPABILITY? JIM WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT THERE'S A SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE THAT IT'LL TELL YOU, LIKE IF AN EVENT WENT ON, IT'LL TELL YOU

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YOU REALLY WANT THOSE BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE BY SKYNET? IT IS CRAZY. BUT YEAH, SO WE'LL WE'LL BE ABLE AFTER WE DO THE FIRST EVENT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME. I LIKE THIS, BUT I, I DO THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AS A COUNCIL KNEW IF WE FELT WE NEEDED TO DO SOME KIND OF THING, THAT THAT'S AN AREA WE COULD LOOK AT. THANKS, BOB. THANKS, COREY. FACILITIES.

JUST A COUPLE. ONE THING TO HIGHLIGHT LAST YEAR WE USED TO. FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW, BUT WE. WE CONTRACT CONTRACTED OUT OUR CUSTODIAL SERVICES FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. LAST YEAR WE PROPOSED JUST WITH THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT, BRINGING THAT STAFF IN-HOUSE THAT WE CALL OUR FOR OUR FACILITY SERVICES REPRESENTATIVES TEAM, BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM DOING A LITTLE MORE THAN CLEANING THE SETUPS. AND, AND IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY FANTASTIC. I THINK OTHER PEOPLE CAN SAY IT'S BEEN BETTER THAN THE CONTRACTED SERVICES, AND WE'RE GETTING MORE WORK OUT OF IT THAN DEALING WITH THE CONTRACTOR. SO IT'S BEEN A REAL GOOD, GOOD BONUS FOR US. SO THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THAT LAST YEAR. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS ON FACILITIES? SORRY. NO, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. SO HERE IS A BUDGET WITH PARKS IN 2026. WE GOT A LOT OF SOME NEW PARKS EQUIPMENT WHICH WE APPRECIATED. WE GOT A BACK TRAILER THAT HELPS SPEED UP A LOT OF OUR WORK. WE'RE ABLE TO SHOW THAT AND OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENT NIGHT. WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL FULL TIME PARKS MAINTENANCE WORKER DUE TO THE GROWTH, PARTICULARLY ON THE WEST SIDE, PRIMARILY AROUND THE PARK. THIS IS WHERE THAT EMPLOYEE WOULD BE WORKING. WE'VE HAD TO REPURPOSE SOME OF OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES BECAUSE AS WE GAINED MORE DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S MORE PARK STRIPS, THERE'S MORE SPACE THAT NEEDS TO MAINTAIN. SO ALL OF THAT LITTLE BY LITTLE IS ADDED UP. BUT NOW, BY ADDING RON WOOD OUT THERE AND THE GROWTH OF THE WILLOWS PARK, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL FULL TIME PARKS WORKER. WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A PARKS PLANNER. CURRENTLY I HAVE A PROJECT PARKS PROJECT MANAGER.

HE RIGHT NOW HAS ABOUT HAS 19 PROJECTS THAT HE'S OVERSEEING, ACCORDING TO THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT STANDARDS. GOOD. A GOOD PROJECT MANAGER CAN HANDLE ABOUT 4 TO 6 MODERATE PROJECTS AND 2 TO 3 SMALL YEAR. SO HE'S GOT A LOT ON HIS PLATE. SO THE PLANNER IS GOING TO HELP WITH A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT DESIGN WORK IN THE PARKS PROJECTS, SO THAT TYLER IS ABLE JUST TO WHEEL THE PARKS PLANNER, WILL DO THE RFPS, THE CONTRACT WORK WITH PURCHASING AND JOE AND GET THAT CREATED. AND THEN TYLER IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER. ONCE IT'S AWARDED, HE'LL BE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WORK, BUT A LOT OF THE FOCUS AS WELL IS ON PARK STRIPS AND STREETSCAPES. WE'VE HEARD YOUR YOUR ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES IS CITY ESTHETICS. AND THAT'S A LOT OF CITY ESTHETICS IS PARK STRIPS AND THE ROADSIDE WEED MANAGEMENT AND THE OPEN SPACE THAT EVERYBODY DRIVES BY. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DESIGNS OF PARK STRIPS. SO WE HAVE SOME THAT WE HAVE SOME PARK STRIPS THAT THE TREES ARE WATERED BY THE HOMEOWNER ORIGINALLY. AND SO THAT IS NO LONGER A GOOD PRACTICE. AND SO WE HAVE TO COMPLETELY REDO THOSE PARK STRIPS. BUT THAT ALL THE TIME THAT TAKES DESIGN, IT TAKES PLANNING. AND YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT REALLY DO THAT. SO WE NEED BUT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT AS IT GROWS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN DESIGN THOSE PARK STRIPS, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE ON STANDARDS.

BUT THEN THEN WE CAN HAVE THE PLANS READY TO START IMPROVING ON THOSE PARK STRIPS, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF WE'RE DOING A LOT OF FLIP THE STRIPS AGAIN, WHICH REQUIRES, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND REMOVE SOD IN A LARGE STRIP AND CHANGE THE IRRIGATION REQUIRES DESIGN. SO WE USUALLY HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY FOR THAT. BUT NOW WE'LL BE DOING A LOT OF THAT KIND OF WORK WITH THIS PLANNER. SO AND AS PART OF THAT REQUEST, WE ARE GIVING UP. YOU'LL SEE.

I'M SAYING WE'LL GIVE UP 3120 SEASONAL HOURS TO HELP COVER THE COST OF SOME OF THAT POSITION. IT'S MY BELIEF WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR MANAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY IN PARKS. THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK, HELPING ME WITH ADMINISTRATIVE THAT THE PLANNER CAN DO. SO I BELIEVE THAT OUR SEASONAL STAFF, WE HAVEN'T MANAGED THEM GREAT BECAUSE IT'S HARD 34MI■!S. SOMETIMES YOU DONT EVEN SEE THEM. AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE THEM NOT MANAGED REALLY EFFECTIVELY AND WORKING PRODUCTIVELY LIKE THEY SHOULD. SO WE BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT BY GIVING UP THOSE HOURS AND GETTING THE PLANNER, OUR MANAGERS WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND TRAIN MORE AND SPEND MORE TIME IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF HOURS TO GIVE UP ABOUT THREE SEASONAL POSITIONS. AND ONE OF THOSE SEASONALS IS WE ACTUALLY USE THIS. LAST YEAR, WE HIRED OUR FIRST PUBLIC SERVICES INTERN, SEASONAL INTERN, AND SHE'S BEEN PHENOMENAL. SHE'S HELPED TO DO QUITE A FEW DESIGNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON AS FAR AS SHE'S HELPED OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SO IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS. SO IT'LL BE AWESOME. JUST ONE OF THOSE THAT ONE OF THOSE THREE SEASONALS WILL BE BACK. SO REALLY TWO SEASONALS YOU DON'T SEE A DIP IN SERVICE LEVEL

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I MEAN, YOU GUYS WERE IN INDIANA, DID YOU HOW ARE THEIR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS? THEY DON'T HAVE ANY. SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE OUR PARKS WORKERS TO THAT CITY'S PARKS. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NCPA. THEY JUST GOT BACK TO US LAST WEEK ON ALL THOSE NUMBERS. ONE THING THAT REALLY STICKS OUT, THAT REALLY STICKS OUT IS WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF POCKET PARKS COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, AND IT'S MUCH EASIER TO MANAGE 210 ACRE PARKS THAN TEN TWO ACRE PARKS, ESPECIALLY OVER 34MI■!S. CAN YOU EXPLAIN POCKET PARKS? YEAH, POCKET PARKS. THEY'RE THE SMALL LITTLE, LITTLE PARKS THAT YOU SEE. MOST OF THEM DON'T EVEN HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD OR PARKING LOTS. A LOT OF THEM ARE. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY, IF A PLAYGROUND IS ON OUR SCHEDULE TO BE REPLACED 25, 30 YEARS, WE REPLACE THE PLAYGROUND. BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH THAT PLANNER IS THAT PLANNER AND I WILL OKAY, IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE, BUT THIS IS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD. LET'S WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, GO OUT AND GIVE OPTIONS. DO YOU WANT A PLAYGROUND OR NOW IS IT AN AGING NEIGHBORHOOD? DO YOU WANT A WALKING PATH OR MAYBE A COMMUNITY GARDEN OR SOMETHING? BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE WE JUST REPLACED WHAT'S THERE. SO THE PLANNER WOULD HELP IN THAT REGARD. A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS, OR MAYBE IT'S A PARK THAT'S NOT USED PROPERLY. GREAT. WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THOSE? DESIGN IT FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOBODY THAT DOES THAT ON STAFF. IT'S JUST KIND OF PLUGGING. SO AND GIVE ME AN IDEA, JUST BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH WORK A FULL TIME MAINTENANCE WORKER WOULD DO.

WHAT, LIKE GIVE US A LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE JUST. WELL, IT'S DIFFERENT. IT VARIES. LIKE I SAY, OUR PARKS IS SPREAD OUT, NOT JUST WITH PARKS AND GREEN SPACE MANAGEMENT, BUT YOU HAVE URBAN SPACE MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE WE HAVE TO HAVE SPECIALISTS TO MANAGE THE SPLASH PAD BECAUSE IT REQUIRES GETTING A CERTIFICATION AND CHEMICAL FILTRATION AND ALL THAT. SO IT'S DIFFERENT. WE HAVE SOME TO MAINTAIN THE BALL FIELDS ALL DAY. BUT WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING YOU'RE LOOKING TO BUY. GET ONE. OH IN THIS POSITION. OH I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THIS POSITION WILL BE MAINLY AT THE NEW BUILDING, THE ROUNDWOOD PARK. THEY'LL DO ALL THE ADDITIONAL NINE ACRES. WE'RE GETTING AN ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELD, BUT IT STILL REQUIRES MAINTENANCE. YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE SILICA SANDS. AND THOSE RUBBER BEADS YOU SEE POP UP. YOU CAN'T JUST THROW THEM DOWN. YOU HAVE TO. IT'S LIKE A VACUUM THAT GOES AND SUCKS THEM UP, WASHES THEM, PUTS THEM BACK DOWN, AND YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THEM OVER TIME. SO THERE STILL IS MAINTENANCE. AND SO THEY'LL BE OUT THERE. AND THEN AS WE ADD THE WHEELS PARK, WE'RE CONTINUING, WE'RE PURCHASING MORE RAMPS THERE. AND THEN WE'LL JUST, WE'LL HAVE OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE THOSE, PUT THEM THERE RATHER THAN PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO IT. BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CARPENTERS UNION TO HELP US WITH THAT. AND AS I JUST I WANTED TO JUST YEAH, YEAH, GET THAT OUT. SO IT'S ON PUBLIC BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEELS PARK MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHERE SOMEONE GOES, I HAVEN'T SKATEBOARDED IN 40 YEARS. WHY DO I NEED TO BE PAYING FOR THESE KIDS TO DO IT? BUT IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT BECOMES A LANDMARK TO A CITY AND BECOME SOMETHING TO A GREAT MANY PEOPLE. AND HAVING SOMEONE WHO'S DEDICATED TO JUST MAKING SURE THAT IS WELL MAINTAINED AND THAT THE PARK IS THERE IS IMPORTANT. SO THERE'S ANOTHER HOPE IS CROSS OUR FINGERS. WE GET THE REC CENTER BECAUSE AS PART OF THE. OUR OFFER TO THAT IS TO MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE REC CENTER. SO THIS POSITION WOULD ALSO DO THAT AS WELL. SO ALL RIGHT, SO THE. 150 2000 IS TWO FULL TIME POSITIONS. YES. BECAUSE IT'S THE RESTRICTED PROPERTY AND A PORTION OF THE THE PARKS PLANNER. AND IT'S JUST A PORTION OF THE PARKS PLANNER BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED SEASONAL HOURS. YES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER JACOB IS ONLINE. HE WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS. IS HE ABLE TO SPEAK, MR. ANDERSON? YEAH. HANG ON. JUST HOLD ON. THERE HE GOES.

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SO I DIDN'T SAY HOUSE. THAT SOUNDED VERY QUESTION AS A HOUSE. I TALKED, I TALKED, OUTSOURCE IT. OUTSOURCE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. I WOULD SAY IN-HOUSE. CRUZ WHATEVER WE DO, I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS GOING TO QUESTION THAT OR NOT. I'M GLAD YOU POINTED THAT OUT. LET ME TELL YOU, BEFORE CARY'S CREW TOOK US OVER, WHEN WE WERE OUTSOURCING IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW I BECAME A CONTACT, BUT I BECAME A CONTACT FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL GROUP, PROBABLY THE MAYOR. BUT THEY STARTED. THEY WERE CALLING ME ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, JUST REALLY DISCOURAGED THAT THEY WERE PAYING A FEE EVERY MONTH ON THEIR UTILITY BILL AND DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT THEY WERE GETTING THE SERVICE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE. AND SO THE MAYOR AND I WENT OUT AND MET WITH THEM AND TOURED THE AREA AND LISTENED. AND THIS IS EVEN, I THINK IT WAS EVEN BEFORE CORY CAME ON. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST DECIDED THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION. AND HE BROUGHT THAT IN-HOUSE. AND HONESTLY, I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A PHONE CALL SINCE. SO IT HAS MADE THE RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF SOMETHING BETTER, THAT THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS SOMETHING. AND HIS TEAM AND THE TEAM HE PUT ON THAT WAS ZACH ROLLINS, WHO'S NOW OVER THE CEMETERY. HE JUST TOTALLY WENT OUT AND MET WITH RESIDENTS AND FOUND OUT WHAT THEIR DESIRES WERE FOR THAT COMMUNITY AND REALLY JUST MET THAT NEED, WHICH IS WHY HE GOT PROMOTED AND SOMEONE THAT WORKED AT THE CEMETERY SWITCHED JOBS AND CAME OVER INTO THIS ROLE. BUT I, I APPRECIATE THE WORK HE'S DONE BECAUSE HONESTLY, IT MADE THAT COMMUNITY APPRECIATE PAYING THAT KIND OF THAT EXTRA FEE OR AN HOA FEE, SO TO SPEAK, FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE AREA. IT'S DONE A GOOD JOB AND NO MORE OUTHOUSES, NO MORE. YEAH, WE CAN DO MORE KIND OF SHOWS THAT I'M SORRY. AND WE HAVE NOT DONE A FEE ADJUSTMENT IN THIS AREA. WE HAVEN'T NEEDED TO BECAUSE THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS SET UP AS IT DEVELOPS, THE FEE FOR COMMERCIAL ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO THE RESIDENTIAL FEES AS WELL BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU IMPROVE AN AREA, EVERYTHING GROWS AT THE SAME TIME. LIKE THEY ALL HAVE AN IMPROVED LAND VALUE, WHETHER IT'S SMITH'S GROCERY STORE, BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THAT AREA, OR WHETHER IT'S APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S IN THERE, OR WHETHER IT'S MULTI-FAMILY HOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THEY ALL CONTRIBUTE TO THE ASSESSMENT TO BEAUTIFY THAT AREA AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL. AND I THINK WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA, YOU CAN REALLY NOTICE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD TO HAVE A FEE ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TO MANAGE RESERVES NOW. SORRY FOR STEALING THE THUNDER HERE, BUT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN WE PUT OUT HAD A CAPITAL PROJECT EVERY LIKE FIVE YEARS THAT WOULD MAKE ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA. I WENT A LITTLE HIGH ON THAT PROJECTION AND THREW IT INTO ENDING RESERVES THAT WERE NEGATIVE, AND I SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT. SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE HIGHLAND SPECIAL DISTRICT, TAKE THE CAPITAL PROJECT OUT, AND THEN WE'LL ASSESS WHEN A CAPITAL PROJECT COULD BE DONE. AND IT COULD BE A PAVILION WHERE THEY WANT A PAVILION. IT COULD BE AN

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WHO COULD HELP WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? A PARK PLANNER, YEAH WE DID. WELL, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THE IMPROVEMENT WE DID THIS LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST ONE. AND WE ACTUALLY TOOK OUT, WE SENT A QR CODE TO THE RESIDENTS THERE, TOOK OUT FLIERS SO THEY COULD VOTE YOU WANT, AND WE GAVE THEM LIKE SIX OPTIONS. DO YOU WANT A PLAYGROUND, AN RC PARK, A BIKE TRACK, A PERGOLA, A WALK? AND THEY ALL VOTED, BUT THE MAJORITY VOTED FOR PLAYGROUND.

AND THEN WE GAVE THEM THREE DIFFERENT PLAYGROUND OPTIONS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO VOTE ON WHICH PLAYGROUND THEY WANTED. SO THEY GOT A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION THROUGH THAT, THROUGH PAYING THROUGH THAT HIGHER SERVICE. AND SO, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE PLANNING TO, WE'RE PLANNING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY THERE TO DO SOME TYPE OF PAVILION OR PERGOLA AT ONE OF THE EXISTING PARKS IN THE UNITED STATES. LAZY RIVER. SO LAZY RIVER. THIS VERSION, RIGHT? SO ME TAKING OUT THAT ONE LARGE PROJECT IN 2031 KEEPS THOSE RESERVES UP. AND THEN AS THE COUNCIL CONTINUES TO DEVELOP WHERE THAT AREA DEVELOPS, WE CAN PUT ANOTHER PROJECT IN. BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE IT OUT. IS THIS WHERE'S THE IT'S THE BOUNDARIES. IT'S IN YOUR IN YOUR BUDGET. OKAY. IT'S IT'S NEIGHBORHOODS KIND OF NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE SMITH'S AT 78, SOUTH 56, WEST 56, AND THEN SOUTHWEST OF THAT SPACE ON BOTH SIDES OF MOUNTAIN. GOT IT.

NO CAPITAL PROJECTS. THERE'S A LOT IN PUBLIC SERVICES THAT GO ON. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT EACH OF THESE. IF YOU WANT ME TO HIGHLIGHT YOU TO ALL OF THESE, OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, OR IF YOU'RE SEEING THEM IN RED AND CROSSED OUT, THANK YOU. THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE EITHER REMOVING THEM FROM THE BUDGET. SO WHEN WE DO A FINAL AMENDMENT TO THIS BUDGET, OR YOU GUYS HAVE FIGURED OUT WHAT YOUR FINAL BUDGET WILL BE, WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO REMOVE THAT. AND CORY CAN TALK TO THEM, BUT YOU'LL SEE THEM ON THE NEXT SLIDE AS WELL. YEAH. THIS ONE.

SO WHEN WE COME TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, IT'S USUALLY IN MARCH AND APRIL. AND, AND WE DO OUR PROPOSALS AND ESTIMATES, ESPECIALLY FOR PROJECTS. IT COULD BE HALF THE PROJECTS CAN ROLL OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR ON GETTING ESTIMATES AND WHEN THEY'LL COME IN. BUT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND SO WE'D ASK THE MONEY WAS A MATCHING GRANT. SO WE WERE ASKING FOR 200,000 MATCH. BUT THEN JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE FOUND OUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE GRANT. SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE, IT'S NO LONGER NEEDED. THIS IS THE BIG PROJECT. THE BOY. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE? THE MAYOR'S. IT'S SO THAT IS ACTUALLY A GRANT WE RECEIVE AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL GRANT, THAT AMOUNT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S TO MOVE THE RIVER LITERALLY TO MOVE THE JORDAN RIVER IN OUR SECTION OF THE CITY WHERE IT'S GOT THE BIG BEND. YEAH, IT'S WHERE WE HAVE AN ENGINEERING TEAM AND CONTRACTOR GOES TO SOUTH JORDAN, BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IT'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S BEEN UNDER DESIGN. IT TOOK A LONG TIME, A VERY LONG TIME TO GET THE GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH A LOT OF THE IT'S NOT A CITY PROJECT, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S A WEIRD IT'S A WEIRD PROJECT, BUT WE MANAGE IT. IT'S ONE OF THE. MANAGE THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT CONTRIBUTED TO BY OUR TAXPAYERS OUTSIDE OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROJECT, ALL THE FUNDING SOURCES HAVE COME IN THROUGH GRANTS, AND WE DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY UNLESS WE GET GRANTS. OH YEAH. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S ANY.

AND IT'S CALLED MEANDERING THE RIVER. SO WE DID INCREASE THE ASK FOR THE DOG PARK THAT WAS IN OUR EXISTING BUDGET. WE GOT DESIGNS AND AS WE MET WITH ADMINISTRATION, OUR TEAM, WE FELT IT JUST WASN'T ADEQUATE FOR WHAT WE WANTED. WE ALSO LEARNED BINGHAM CREEK TRAIL IS GOING TO BE WOULD BE GOING RIGHT THROUGH THAT SAME PROPERTY. AND SO WE HAVE TO IN ORDER TO REDESIGN AND GET IT, WE NEEDED TO INCREASE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PROGRESS ON IT. AS SOON AS WE LEARNED ABOUT THE CREEK TRAIL, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY THERE HAD TO STOP AND DO THAT. THAT'S A PROJECT, RIGHT? CORRECT. STATE. BUT IT WAS A DOT. IT'S TYING INTO THE STATE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. OKAY. SO I'M TALKING TO THE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S. THIS WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS WALL AT VETERANS PARK. YOU HAVE THE LITTLE WHERE THE RODEO IS AND ALL THE GRAVEL THERE, RIGHT ON THE COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST A BIG DIRT PLOT. SENIOR COMMUNITY ON ONE SIDE OF OF. ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. THEN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR PLUM CREEK JUST TO DESIGN A FINISH THAT PARK, IT NEEDS DESIGN JUST AROUND THE BACK EDGE. REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF NEW PROJECTS.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WRAP UP A LOT OF OUR BIG ONES. SO WE DID ASK FOR AS MANY THIS YEAR. YEAH.

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YEAH, YEAH. WE MADE HIM AWARE OF IT. SO WE'RE DOING YEAH, YEAH. WE'RE DOING WE'RE DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO FOR THAT BRIDGE TO REPLACE THAT BRIDGE GOING OVER 78. THERE'S ALSO SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSION ON HOW WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT FLOODING. WE HAVE A BIG BRIDGE BACK BEHIND THE. THE ART CENTER. I'M TALKING THE TRAFFIC BRIDGE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. WE'RE PUTTING TRAIL ABOVE THE ROAD. THERE CURRENTLY IS A BRIDGE GOING IN AT 78 BRIDGE. WELL, THE JORDAN RIVER TRAIL. JORDAN OVER. THE. RYAN. YEAH. THAT'S CONFUSED. YOU TWO ARE TALKING TWO SEPARATE THINGS, I THINK. RYAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL GO OVER THE RIVER, OVER THE WATER NORTH OF 78. YES, COUNCILMAN. SHELDON, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CAN WE USE THE SPAN, THAT BRIDGE SPAN THAT WE GOT FROM SOUTH JORDAN YEARS AGO TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH OVER 78 TO CREATE A JORDAN RIVER TRAIL CONNECTION WITHOUT HAVING TO GO UNDER 78 FLOODS. WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, SWIMMING BRIDGE. SO YES. SO YEAH, WE ARE EXPLORING SOMETHING THAT IF IT WORKS, IT'S WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER AND ENABLE THAT TRAIL TO BE CONTINUOUSLY USED. SO WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERS AND AREN'T. AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT'S MUCH CHEAPER AND STILL FREE TO FREE FOR TRAFFIC. IT'S FINE. WATER IS TRYING TO GET IN THERE.

REENACTMENTS PLUS POTENTIAL FUTURE WIDENINGS. I THINK THAT BRIDGE THAT SPAN MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE ADEQUATE. THAT'S IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ENOUGH. YEAH. SO WHAT, WE'D END UP HAVING A TEMPORARY BRIDGE THAT COST. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS ORIGINALLY, YOU'LL SEE WHY THAT'S CROSSED OUT. IT WAS JUST COST US THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECT HASN'T GONE UP. JUST OUR ESTIMATING BY YEAR END WAS INCORRECT. SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO NEED 5 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR FROM THE PROJECT. BUT NOW WE NEED 8.4. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SPEND. BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID THIS LAST YEAR WE HAD 11 MILLION IN THE BUDGET. IT'S STILL AN $11 MILLION PROJECT. WE JUST DIDN'T SPEND WHAT WE ESTIMATED AT THE TIME WE DID THIS. WE HAD SOME DELAYS IN THE PROJECT. IT'S STILL. EVEN THOUGH I PUT 8.4, YOU NEVER IT'S JUNE 2ND. THERE STILL COULD BE DELAYS. YOU NEVER KNOW. BUT WE'RE DOING IT. WE ALWAYS DO OUR BEST AND JOE'S AWESOME AND KEEPING CONTRACTORS TO TRY TO NOT INVOICE US FOR THAT. SO WE SHOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE. IT'S THE SAME FOR ROUNDWOOD PARK. IT'S AT WILL'S PARK. WE HAD TO DELAY A LOT OF THAT PROJECT AS A CONSEQUENCE OF ALL THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. SO AGAIN, THE PROJECT DIDN'T AMOUNT DIDN'T INCREASE. IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT. AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT IS WITH GRANT FUNDING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, RIO TINTO AS WELL. LONGWOOD PROPERTY CLEANUP. THIS IS THE YOU'LL SEE IT'S IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER CORRIDOR. IT'S THE OLD. IT WAS USED FOR THE LEGACY HORSE. IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF GARBAGE. IT'S GOING TO. WE'RE GOING TO PAY A CONTRACTOR TO CLEAN IT UP. AND THERE'S ALSO A LARGE GARBAGE AND DIRT PILES THAT'S BEEN THERE. THAT COMMUNITY HAS JUST USED. IT'S KIND OF A DUMP. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS TO CLEAN AND HAUL ALL OF IT AWAY. IT'S A BIG THEY'RE HAVING SOME REALLY ACTIVITIES OUT THERE. YEP. YEP.

IN THAT AREA. SO CLEANING THAT UP. AND SO IT'S IT'S A LOT TO CLEAN UP. IT'S IT'S NECESSARY.

YEAH. IMPORTANT CLEANUP. DEFINITELY. ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL INITIATIVES THAT CALLED OUT OR GET CALLED OUT ARE THE ARTERIAL BEAUTIFICATION AND THE TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN. YOU INCREASE THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THAT FORWARD, CONTINUING TO INCREASE OUR TREE REPLACEMENTS OVERALL. AND OBVIOUSLY THE LAST SLIDE

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AND YEAH. DO THEY I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG WE'LL LEAVE IT ON. BUT YOU FILL THEM WITH WATER. THEY DO COME AND FILL THEM, BUT THEY, THEY SOAK THE WHOLE AREA. WE HAVE A CREW THAT GOES THROUGH WITH A WATER TRUCK. I'M NOT SURE. I JUST KNOW THEY SOAK THE WHOLE AREA. SO BUT YEAH, OUR TREES HAS BEEN A LOT OF THE REASON THOSE TREES WERE THE MAIN REASON THOSE TREES ARE USUALLY MISSING ON THOSE MAIN ROADS IS 90TH WAS A LOT OF THE FIBER COMPANIES THAT COME THROUGH ADDING IN THOSE JUST CUT THROUGH THE ROOTS. AND OVER TIME, IT'S JUST HARD TO KEEP THE TREES ALIVE WHEN THEY'RE HIT BY CARS. SO.

BUT YEAH, WE PLANTED, I THINK IT WAS 59 TREES JUST ALONG A COUPLE BLOCKS IN 90TH SOUTH. SO TRYING OUR BEST WITH CITY ESTHETICS. IT'S A GOOD ONE. THIS ISN'T ME, BUT WE CAN TALK TO IT. I CAN SPEAK TO THIS, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, TAKING OUT THE FIRE, THE FIRE AND POLICE LOGISTICS BUILDING. WE'RE GOING TO WATCH INTEREST RATES CLOSELY.

IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFINANCE THE NBA BOND AND GAIN A FAVORABLE POSITION THROUGH REFINANCE, THEN WE'LL DO THAT REFINANCE. AND THAT CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE THIS LOGISTICS BUILDING. WE'LL PURSUE IT WITH YOU, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET FOR NOW. OKAY. WAIT. GO BACK. THE FIRE STATION LANDSCAPING CHIEF MAXFIELD HAS ONLY BEEN ABLE TO DO A PORTION OF THE PROJECT, ALONG WITH PARKS AND LANDSCAPING, A COUPLE.

OF THE FIRE STATIONS. SO HE'S ASKING, INSTEAD OF THE 60,000 ONGOING LANDSCAPING.

BUDGET TO GET THE FIVE STATIONS DONE, HE'S ONLY HE'S MOVING SOME OF THE FUNDS FORWARD BECAUSE HE'S JUST NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEND THEM. SO YEAH, WE HAVE I DON'T TOUCH TO THAT. WE HAVE AWESOME FIRE DEPARTMENT. NOT MANY CITIES THAT WHAT'S WHAT'S THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS WE WERE GOING TO IMPROVE ALL THE LANDSCAPING AT THE FIRE STATIONS AND DO THAT WITH OUR PARKS CREW OR CONTRACTED OUT. BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF TALENT AMONG THEIR FIREMEN. A LOT OF THEM DO LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDE. SO THEY OFFER TO KIND OF TAKE THAT PROJECT ON. THEY ALREADY DO A LOT OF THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE. THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL, YEAH, I SAW THEM OUT THERE WORKING. YE I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU'VE SUPPORTED PUBLIC SERVICES A LOT. I, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS COME OUR WAY AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND WE TAKE IT SERIOUS AND WE WANT TO WE WANT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR US. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NOW, I GUESS I KNOW IT'S THE TWO MINUTES LEFT FOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WHAT IS IT BRIAN YET? OR IS BRIAN LAST. STREETLIGHTS OKAY? YEAH. YOU GOT STREETLIGHTS. COREY. WHAT THE HECK? OH, JEEZ. SORRY, I SAW TRANSPORTATION. WELL, THAT'S YOU. I.

KNOW, I JUST READ BRIAN. THE TWO STREETLIGHTS. OUR STREETLIGHT CREW. YES. ANY QUESTIONS? SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A CHANGE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY WITH STREETLIGHTS AND PARENTHESES GOING TO GRADUALLY RETRAIN THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND. HB 425 PASSED THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR, AND STREETLIGHTS WERE IDENTIFIED SPECIFICALLY AS A TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME TO THAT. I THINK I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE. THE HB 425 ALSO REQUIRES US TO MAKE THAT FEE NOT BE A FLAT FEE THAT'S JUST DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE CITY, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH TRIP GENERATIONS OR SOME SORT OF METHODOLOGY THAT COULD SUPPORT THE FEE BEING DISTRIBUTED TO DIFFERENTLY TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES. SO WE'LL BE PERFORMING THAT STUDY THIS YEAR, BUT THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE CHANGE. AND THAT'S WHY COREY WAS LIKE, THIS IS A BRIAN THING, BUT IT'S A IT USUALLY LOOKS DIFFERENT IN MY BUDGET. HOW DO. YOU HOW DO YOU

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YEAH. ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICK, MULTIFAMILY WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN SINGLE FAMILY. SURE. OUR STREETLIGHT CREW THIS LAST YEAR, IT'S BEEN A GOAL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO CONVERT ALL OF OUR STREET LIGHTS TO LED. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY 100% BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW. WE'RE ABOUT 99.9% HAVE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT THIS LAST YEAR, OTHER THAN OTHER THAN THE ANNEXED AREA THAT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING THERE BECAUSE THEY HAD QUITE A FEW. BUT IN DOING SO, WE RECEIVED ON THAT FIRST MONTH THAT IT WAS ANNEXED TO PUBLIC WORKS. I RECEIVED 2 OR 3 CALLS FROM FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE ANNEXED INTO THE AREA. JUST SAYING THANK YOU. WE'VE NEVER HAD STREET LIGHTS WORKING AND SEEING LED LIGHTS WAS A GOOD IMPROVEMENT FOR THEM, SO THEY DID A LOT THIS YEAR. HAVE YOU BEEN MAKING ANY STRIDES ON THEFT? WE'VE MADE A LOT OF STRIDES, SO WE'VE.

STARTED PURCHASING THESE COPPER LIDS THAT THEY. THEY HAVE TO BE MANUFACTURED IN EAGLE MOUNTAIN BECAUSE EVERY BOX IS DIFFERENT. BUT YEAH, IT'S A CONTRACTOR DOWN THERE NOW, COINCIDENTALLY EAGLE MOUNTAIN. BUT HE STARTED MAKING THESE BECAUSE HE, HE MAKES THEM AND THEIR DESIGNS THAT WE CAN GO SCREW THEM ON OUR EXISTING BOXES. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY JUST, THEY BREAK THESE BOXES AND THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO TEAR. BUT WE FOUND ALL THAT WE'VE WE'VE I THINK WE'VE INSTALLED. LAST I CHECKED, IT WAS OVER 170 AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE VANDALISM OR THEFT SINCE IN ANY OF THOSE BOXES THAT WERE INSTALLED. AND A LOT OF OUR BOXES, LIKE WE'D REPLACE IT IN TWO WEEKS LATER, IT WOULD BE HIT AGAIN. SO WE STARTED OUR CONTINUAL AREAS OF THEFT, AND SINCE WE'VE INSTALLED ONE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE ONE THEFT USING THOSE BOXES. THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE OVER 10,000 BOXES SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO WE'RE SLOWLY TRYING WITH OUR EXISTING BUDGET, ADDING THEM MORE AND MORE. AND IT'S BEEN GREAT. SO IT HAS DROPPED. IT'S DROPPED A LOT. THERE'S BEEN A NOTICEABLE DROP, ESPECIALLY SIX MONTHS. YEAH, IT WAS OUT WEST. THERE WAS A LOT IN THE INDUSTRIAL AND NEW DEVELOPED AREAS. AND SO LIKE I SAID, WE WENT THOSE WERE OUR HEAVY IMPACT AREAS. SO WE INSTALLED THOSE. THEY HAVEN'T SEEN AS MUCH. DID YOU ALSO REPLACE WITH ALUMINUM WIRING? AND WE DID. WELL. WE'VE STARTED REPLACING WITH ALUMINUM WIRING. I'M NOT GOING TO GET ANOTHER.

SORRY, I CAN'T ANSWER SINCE WE'RE ON RECORD, THE BOXES MIGHT SAY THAT THERE'S ALUMINUM WIRE IN THERE, BUT. WE HAVE BEEN REPLACING IT WITH ALUMINUM WIRE. BUT BUT WE DID PUT ON THE BOX THAT IT SAYS ALUMINUM WIRE SO THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BREAK INTO IT ALSO. BUT THAT MAKES SENSE. JUST DIDN'T WANT TO REBUILD IT. NOBODY WANTED TO KNOW. LIVE INSIDE. WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. YEAH, WE'VE THOUGHT OF IT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. A RABID BAT IN THIS BOX.

HERE'S THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THE STREET LIGHTS. SO THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE STREET LIGHT FUND. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE KEEP ABOUT A 25% OF THE REVENUES AS A RESERVE, BUT CONSISTENTLY ARE USING IT TO ADD NEW STREETLIGHTS IN THE AREAS, AND THEN ALSO TO REPLACE AND MAINTAIN THE STREETLIGHTS WITH, YOU KNOW, NICE PAINT OR WIRING OR LED ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO AND WE HAVE TWO AND WELL, THREE, TWO ELECTRICIANS AND AN INTERN, RIGHT? THREE. NO, NO, WE HAVE THREE ELECTRICIANS. WE DON'T KNOW. HE'S AN APPRENTICE, APPRENTICE, APPRENTICE ELECTRICIAN. SORRY. SO TWO OF THE ELECTRICIANS AND THE APPRENTICE ARE IN THE STREET LIGHT FUND. THE MASTER ELECTRICIAN IS IN THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT OF THE GENERAL FUND, BECAUSE WE NEED THOSE SERVICES TO STILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE. AND ONE THING, ANOTHER PICTURE, EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS WITH THE PARKS PLANNER.

SO KEVIN, HE'S OUR MASTER ELECTRICIAN. HIM AND TYLER CRAWFORD I, WE ATTEND WEEKLY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MEETINGS. THIS IS ANYTIME YOU HAVE A GAS STATION, ANYTHING'S GOING IN.

WE LOOK TO MAKE SURE IT'S MEETING OUR SPECS AND STANDARDS. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THOSE MEETINGS TO VERIFY. THAT WILL GO TO OUR PARKS PLANNER, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW KEVIN AND TYLER TO. THEY'LL THEN BE OUT ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK. SO THE PLANNER WILL BE TRAINED ON ALL OF THOSE AND BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND MAKE SURE IT MEETS OUR SPECIFICATIONS. SO THEN OUR ELECTRICIANS CAN BE OUT DOING THE ELECTRICAL WORK. SO JUST ANOTHER PLUG FOR THAT.

THE STREET LIGHT FUND IS ESTIMATED TO HAVE A 4% RATE INCREASE PER YEAR EVERY YEAR MOVING FORWARD, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE RESERVES RUNNING. NOW THERE WE GO. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, GO RIGHT AHEAD, COUNCILMAN JACOB, I HAD A HAND. ON THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE THAT WE HAVE READING THE THREE FUND THAT I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA THAT THAT KIND OF OPENS THE DOORS TO HAVING TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEES SO THAT WE CAN BETTER TAKE CARE OF OUR ROADS, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE PROJECTION THERE AT ALL. IS THAT BEING CONTEMPLATED? I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A YEAR AGO AND THEN WE SAID, OH, WAIT, THE

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HOWEVER, THIS FUND, BECAUSE OF THE NEW LEGISLATION, IS HIGHLY, HIGHLY SCRUTINIZED AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST NOT TO TRANSFER ANYTHING TO THE GENERAL FUND FROM THIS FUND MOVING FORWARD. SO WE'LL BE LOSING. WE LOST ABOUT 70 TO $80,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE FROM THIS, REDUCING THIS TRANSFER OUT. OKAY. OKAY. ABOUT THAT. YES.

THAT THE MAYBE IT'S JUST THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S INCREASED SCRUTINY ON THIS FUND, WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING SOMETHING NAUGHTY. AND I WOULD AGREE THE WAY THAT WAS PHRASED, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN DEFENSIBLE THIS WHOLE TIME. AND I THINK IF IT WAS DEFENSIBLE THEN AND IT WAS THE RIGHT IDEA PHILOSOPHICALLY, THEN IT SHOULD BE DEFENSIBLE. NOW, I BELIEVE PART OF THE LEGISLATION WILL NOT ALLOW US TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE GENERAL FUND FROM ANY KIND OF UTILITY TRANSPORTATION FEE.

THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT. YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YEAH, THE STATE AUDITOR IS ALL OVER THIS ONE, AND THE LEGISLATION IS PRETTY RESTRICTIVE. SO IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR LEGISLATION, BUT NOT MUCH IS. SO BUT WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUSTIFY IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO IN THE WATER AND THE STORMWATER. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS, CERTAINLY THE REASON WE TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND IS BECAUSE THE DELIVERY OF THE UTILITY IS USING OUR RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT. AND THE POWER POLES FOR THE STREET LIGHTS ARE IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEY'RE USING THAT RIGHT OF WAY TO DELIVER THE SERVICE. AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT OF WAY BASED ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE STREET LIGHTS. SO I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY JUSTIFIABLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE LEGISLATION MIGHT RESTRICT US A BIT IN THAT. RESTRICTED BY LEGISLATION. THAT'S ONE THING. IF IT'S WE DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT DOING SOMETHING JUST FINE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. NO, I FEEL CONFIDENT IN OUR TRANSFERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN JACOBS. COREY TOOK ALL THE TIME. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, LET'S GET STARTED. I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE COREY STAY THOUGH. I KNOW WE'VE HE'S ALREADY IN THE PARKING LOT. PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATION. COREY SPOKE EARLIER. WE DO ENDORSE THE ADDITION FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE PUBLIC WORKS. WE EACH HAVE AN ADMIN. AND HONESTLY, THE ADMIN SPENDS MORE TIME ANSWERING CALLS AND DOING THINGS THAT AREN'T BENEFICIAL TO HELPING US. SO THAT POSITION IS IS NEEDED. COREY SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE CHEAPER TO HAVE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSON THAN HAVING ADMIN TAKE CARE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. WELL, AND THEN THEY CAN, THEY CAN HELP OUR DEPARTMENTS TO. THEN HOLD THEM BACK. BUT I GOTTA SAY, CITY WIDE, WE ARE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LEAN ON ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF OUR CITY AND THE OVERALL STAFFING THAT WE HAVE. WE WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITY DEPARTMENTS WITH MORE THAN ONE ADMIN ASSISTANT, AND WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS WITH ZERO. WE WENT THROUGH COVID. THAT WAS ONE AREA WHERE WE DRAMATICALLY REDUCED ACROSS THE BOARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO COMPENSATE WAS WE'VE REDUCED THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECEPTIONIST SUPPORT. THAT'S DEPARTMENTAL SPECIFIC. BUT TO SUPPORT A CITY WIDE THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICE HAS GROWN. THIS IS JUST ONE MORE STEP IN THAT. TRYING TO KEEP THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT IN EACH DEPARTMENT LEAN, EFFICIENT FOCUS ON THE DEPARTMENT. BUT HAVING A

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SINCE GREG HAS SOMETHING TO. GISIT INDIRECT COSTS FOR ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE UTILIZE WITH GIS, 70% CHANGE. NOT A LOT OF CHANGE THERE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? I, I HAD A VISIT WITH THEM REGARDING THE REPORT. A PROBLEM FUNCTION ON THE WEBSITE, AND DURING THAT VISIT I GOT THE KIND OF A VIBE THAT THEY'RE SHORTHANDED AND RELYING TOO MUCH ON INTERNS TO, TO A POINT THAT THAT IS TRUE. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN THAT DIVISION.

WE'LL REQUEST ANOTHER EMPLOYEE PROBABLY NEXT YEAR FOR THAT DIVISION ALSO. CORBIN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH. SORRY, I WANTED TO WAIT TILL YOU'RE DONE. OH, SORRY. NO YOU'RE GOOD.

AND THEN THERE'S A 7% INCREASE THERE. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON, WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE STAFF, THE PARKS PLANNER POSITION THAT COREY'S ASKED FOR.

ALSO, IT'S ANTICIPATED WE'LL DO SOME OF THAT GIS WORK THAT PARKS LEANS ON GIS FOR. SO YEAH, I WOULD LIKE ANOTHER STAFF POSITION. I'M TRYING BEFORE BEFORE WE COME TO YOU SAYING WE NEED ONE MORE STAFF POSITION. WE'RE TRYING A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO BALANCE WORKLOADS THERE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE PARK PLAN. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE GIS TOTALLY BUYS THAT OR AGREES.

THAT KIND OF REMAINS, BUT I THINK IT ALL GOES HAND IN HAND. I MEAN, IF THE IF OVER TIME, THE, THE BURDEN ON THEIR STAFF IS REDUCED. YES. I MEAN, UNLESS THEY'RE BEING DISHONEST, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ADMIT THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO GET REALLY, REALLY GOOD INTERNS, DONE A GREAT JOB IN GETTING THAT OUT. REALLY AMAZING WORK FOR US. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRAINING THOSE INTERNS. I DO, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING. THEN THEY'RE GONE, RIGHT? I MEAN, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE BENEFITED FROM IN TERMS TO. SO FOR SURE, DO WE PAY THOSE INTERNS OR. YEP. JUST NOT A LOT. JUST THE FOUR MONTH RATE. YEAH. STREETS. DO WE HAVE THAT. DO YOU HAVE THAT TABLE. IT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY.

SO LAST YEAR THANKFULLY WE GOT ANOTHER CONCRETE CREW. THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. IT'S HELPED IMMENSELY. AND I GUESS IN THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO INCREASE THIS YEAR. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY INCREASE. FELT VERY FORTUNATE TO GET THAT LAST YEAR.

AND IT'S BEEN AMAZING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CREW ON THE EQUIPMENT. HERE WE GO. YEP.

THAT'S GREAT. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM 24 TO 25 THE INCREASE IN CONCRETE THAT WE POURED. PUMPS,

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AND THAT WAS A NEW FUNDING SOURCE AS OF LAST YEAR. BUT THE FOURTH OF THE FOURTH SALES TAX WAS ALSO DEDICATED TO TRANSPORTATION. BUT WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED, THE CITY NEEDED IT TO FUND THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. AND IT DOES FUND THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. ALMOST ALL OF THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. SO BUT THAT FOURTH OF THE FOURTH, IF YOU COULD RAISE PROPERTY TAX A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE LESS DEPENDENT ON THAT SALES TAX SOURCE, WHICH IS DEDICATED TO TRANSPORTATION, AND DIVERT THAT SALES TAX INTO PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE. EVEN IF YOU DID A QUARTER OF A PERCENT OR A HALF A PERCENT EVERY YEAR OF PROPERTY TAX TOWARDS REDUCING OUR DEPENDANCE ON THAT FOURTH OF THE FOURTH SALES TAX AND BRINGING IT OVER INTO PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE IN THAT BY 2032, YOU WOULD HAVE IT OVER THERE, AND THEN YOU COULD CONTINUE WITH THE SAME PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT YOU KIND OF HAVE TODAY. BUT I FEEL LIKE TO REALLY GET CAUGHT UP AND TAKE LIKE A 10% INCREASE OR SOMETHING. YEAH. SO I. SIMILARLY, COUNCILMAN JACOB BROUGHT UP THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WATCHING IT CLOSELY, WATCHING OTHER CITIES DO THAT. BUT THAT IS THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, A GRADUAL INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAX TO OFFSET THAT OR AN IMPLEMENTATION AND A GRADUAL INCREASE OF THAT TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE. THOSE ARE THE TWO DIALS YOU CAN ADJUST. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE AN ADJUSTMENT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A REAL CRANK UP THE DIAL UP TO 11. IT IT COULD I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS, RIGHT? YOU COULD THE FIFTH OF THE OR NOT THE FIFTH OF THE FIFTH. THE ONE TIME FUNDING WE'RE GETTING OF $1.1 MILLION FROM THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE NEXT 15. IT WAS 15 YEARS. NOW THERE'S LIKE TEN YEARS LEFT. THAT INFLUX WAS MEANT TO BE

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AND WE'RE GETTING MORE YEARS OUT OF THE ROAD WITH THE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS WE'RE USING. SO IT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. FLEET MANAGEMENT. FIVE ADDITIONAL WE ADDED ADDITIONAL POLICE VEHICLES AND THE TILLER TRUCK TILLER TRUCK HAS BEEN ORDERED. IT'S A FOUR YEAR BUILD.

SO WE'LL GET THAT IN 20. 20. WE DID THAT CONTRIBUTION IN HALVES. YEAH WE DID IT IN TWO YEARS.

TWO YEARS. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT WE WON'T TAKE IT. WON'T BE READY FOR FOUR. YEAH YEAH. FY 26 ADDITIONAL AGAIN CONTRIBUTION FOR POLICE AND TILLER TRUCK AND THE COST RECOVERY SET TO ALLOW 2 MILLION IN RESERVES. SO WHEN I'M SAYING THAT I SET THIS REVENUE, SO BRIAN MANAGES THIS PIECE OF THE BUDGET AND I KIND OF MANAGE THE REVENUE PIECE OF THE BUDGET. SO WE LOOK AT HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE OUT THERE. WHAT WAS WHAT WERE THEY PURCHASED FOR? AND THEN WE PUT AN INFLATION FACTOR ON IT BECAUSE THEY NEVER ARE GOING TO, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST STRAIGHT LINE DEPRECIATE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEN A VEHICLE NEVER COSTS WHAT YOU BOUGHT IT FOR FIVE YEARS, 5 OR 10 YEARS AGO. SO WE PUT AN INFLATION FACTOR ON THAT. BUT REALLY THE GOAL IS, IS THAT THE REVENUE WILL ALLOW A $2 MILLION RESERVE TO JUST SIT THERE, RIGHT? SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE VEHICLES AS WE NEED TO AND NOT NOT HAVE TOO MUCH RESERVE, BUT HAVE ENOUGH RESERVE. SO THIS VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN CAN FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RESERVE LEVELS ARE, WHAT VEHICLES ARE AVAILABLE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

SORRY. NO YOU'RE GOOD. THE NEW PURCHASES THIS YEAR, YOU'LL SEE IN STREETS. WE'RE ASKING FOR A SIDE CAST SWEEPER FOR OVERLAY OPERATIONS ON THAT FACILITIES TRAILER, CROSSING GUARD PARKS PLANNER. WE ARE ASKING IN FLEET FOR A NEW TIRE BALANCING MACHINE AND NEW TIRE MOUNTING MACHINE. OURS IS WORN OUT AND IT CAN'T WITH THE NEW F-550 WE'RE BUYING NOW, IT'S NOT ABLE TO MOUNT THE 19.5IN TIRE, SO WE HAVE TO SEND THOSE OUT TO GET MOUNTED AND BALANCED WITH. THE NEW MACHINE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN-HOUSE. REPLACEMENTS PLAN. WE'VE GOT 4 MILLION THIS YEAR, AS DENISE SAID, A MILLION FOR UPFITTING THE NEW VEHICLES. AND THEN WE HAVE A MILLION FOR LEASED EQUIPMENT. THAT'S ALL THE YELLOW STILL, ALL THE BACKHOES, FRONT END LOADERS, SKID STEERS, THE MINI TRACK UNITS, THOSE ARE LEASED. SO EVERY THREE YEARS WITH THE USE OF THAT EQUIPMENT GETS EVERY THREE YEARS WE GET A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO REPLACE THAT WITH. AT LEAST WE ALWAYS HAVE DEPENDABLE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE. IT'S NOT SITTING IN THE SHOP.

NOT ONLY THAT, THEY MAINTAIN IT, WHICH IS HUGE BENEFIT. HERE'S THE FLEET MANAGEMENT FUND.

DENISE TALKED ABOUT. FY 2030 IS WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE POSSESSION OF THE TILLER TRUCK.

HOPEFULLY BEFORE THEN IT. YEAH. THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RESERVES AND RESERVES OVER THE

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OH, I SEE FY 25, WE THAT'S WHEN WE DOUBLED WENT FROM 4 MILLION TO $8 MILLION FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE TO IMPROVE OUR PCI. AND THEN IN FY 26, WE DEDICATED AN ENGINEER TO THE. TWO. WE HAVE TWO ENGINEERS NOW THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH DEDICATED TO ROAD MAINTENANCE. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE PCI STANDS FOR? AGAIN, PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. SO PCI GOES FROM 1 TO 100. WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PCI IS ABOUT 70. I MEAN GRADE IS 100 RIGHT. YEAH.

THAT'S A NEW ROAD. AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GAUGE THE REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A PCI ON ALL THE ROADS IN THE CITY. WE HAVE A SEVEN YEAR ASPHALT MAINTENANCE PLAN NOW AND OUTLINES WHAT ROAD WE DO EVERY YEAR BASED ON PCI. IF PCI GETS TOO LOW, THEN THE ROAD HAS TO BE REPLACED. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THAT'S WHY IT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME, NOT HAVE THAT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. TO JUST SO ONCE THE PCI GETS TOO LOW, IF THAT IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ALLOCATE ENOUGH TO PUT SOME KIND OF SURFACE TREATMENT ON THAT ROAD BEFORE IT GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL SEE ROADS JUST LEFT TO. FLAT. YEAH, DON'T OVER OR AGAIN, UNTIL WE CAN ACTUALLY ALLOCATE FUNDS TO REBUILD IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THERE'S NO SURFACE TREATMENT THAT IS GOING TO WORK ON A ROAD IF IT'S TOO LOW ON. SO SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH IN COUNCIL MEMBER LAMB'S NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, YEAH. IF YOU JUST SAY, OKAY, ONCE YOU CAN GET THAT ALLOCATED ON THE BUDGET TO OVERLAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. YOU DON'T APPLY A SURFACE TREATMENT BECAUSE IT'S JUST A WASTE AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? YEAH. IF THAT HELPS. SO YEAH. OH GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION. I KIND OF HINTED AT THIS WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE, BUT IS THE SEVEN YEAR PLAN THAT YOU MENTIONED WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE, IT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT. IT WAS IT WAS STILL A DECLINING LIKE, LIKE THE AVERAGE PCI FOR THE WHOLE CITY, RIGHT? WAS GOING FROM 65 TO 35. EVEN WITH THE SEVEN YEAR PLAN OR WHATEVER IT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE OR IF THAT WAS EVEN THE RIGHT MEASUREMENT. BUT THERE WAS A YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A KIND OF A TIME CHART AND PCI NUMBER GOING DOWN OVER TIME.

CORRECT. AND, AND I'M WONDERING IF THE CURRENT PLAN IS THAT STILL THE SAME? IT'S IT'S SIMILAR, BUT WITH THE INCREASED FUNDING COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO MORE.

IT WILL HELP. BUT WE'RE WE'RE STILL BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, BUT WE ARE DOING BETTER. AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE OR SO, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A PCI ANALYSIS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS JUST TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THE INCREASED FUNDING AND SEEING IF WHAT WHAT DIFFERENCE WE ARE MAKING WITH THE PCI. BUT LIKE CORBETT SAID EARLIER, TOO, WE'VE WE'VE OPENED UP THE TOOLBOX. NOW WE HAVE WE'RE DOING SURFACE TREATMENTS TOO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A BIG HELP IN THE FUTURE. MOVING FORWARD, YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENCE WITH PCI IN DOING THOSE SURFACE TREATMENT SURFACE TREATMENTS, BUT IT IS I CAN'T SAY IT'S 100%, BUT IT IS A LOT BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE WITH THE INCREASED FUNDING. RIGHT? COUNCILMEMBER? OH, SORRY, I WAS JUST COUNTING. SO SORRY SORRY SORRY, SORRY. THEN IN FY 26 WE BOUGHT A MASTIC MACHINE AGAIN. THAT'S ANOTHER TREATMENT WE CAN DO. YOU'LL SEE ON CERTAIN ROADS YOU'LL SEE IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE TRAVEL LANES WHERE THE TRAVEL LANES WHERE THEY SEEK OR WHERE THEY THEY START GATHERING OR FALLING APART. WE CAN GO IN AND LAY MASTIC NOW, WHICH HAS WORKED OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL. IT'S VERY DURABLE. SO WE CAN LAY THEM DOWN AND GIVE US MORE TIME ON THAT ROAD FOR US TO GET THERE, TO DO THE PROPER REPAIRS. BUT THIS MASTIC HAS BEEN

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WHEN WE GO IN AND DO AN OVERLAY, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MILLING MACHINE THAT GOES ON OUR SKID STEER TO GET THE EDGES. AND WE HAVE TO. WE MILL IT ON THE EDGE AND THEN WE TAKE THAT OFF AND WE PUT A LITTLE BROOM ON THE SKID STEER. THIS IS TAKES A LOT OF TIME WHERE THIS. WE CAN FOLLOW BEHIND THE MILLING MACHINE AND IT SIDE CASTS. IT KICKS IT OUT. SO THE SWEEPER CAN, THE BIG SWEEPER CAN COME AND CLEAN IT UP. JUST AN EFFICIENCY THAT I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT WITH THIS. AND I THINK WE'LL LOOK BECAUSE IT SLOWS DOWN THE OPERATION. I LIKE THE NEED TO HAVE THE LONG TERM PLAN WITH THE CURRENT FUNDING FOR SUSTAINABLE THROUGH 2032. LET'S SEE, HERE'S THE THE ENDING RESERVES. SO YOU CAN SEE WE GET DOWN TO LIKE $62,000 PRETTY TIGHT. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT. AFTER THE TILLER, RIGHT. WHAT'S THAT. I'M SORRY.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE. YEAH. THIS IS ALL PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE CLASS C ROADS IS THE MONEY WE GET FOR PAYMENT ON THAT THAT I KNOW YOU'RE I HAVE TWO BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SHOP EVERY DAY. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO FUND. I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE, NOT DURING BUDGET, LIKE DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS, BUT AS A WORK SESSION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGY TO MOVE FORWARD. I GUESS THAT'S MY CONCERN IS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY COME TO ANY CONCLUSIONS. NOW, THIS IS A BIG ONE COMING UP. YEAH. CAPITAL PROJECTS, TOTAL PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE. WE HAVE $9 MILLION AND WE HAVE 18.4 MILLION SLATED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IN FY 26 OR 27. SORRY. SO HERE'S THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECTS. WE'RE WORKING ON DESIGN. WE'RE WORKING WITH ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER TO GET COSTS ON BURYING POWER IN A CERTAIN SECTION OF WHERE WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'LL CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT. IT'LL STILL BE ABOVE GROUND POWER. THIS SECTION WILL BE CLEANED UP. SAFE SIDEWALK MONEY. THAT'S THE MONEY WE USE TO DO A LOT OF SIDEWALK WORK. IS THAT A GRANT? NO, THAT'S THAT'S GENERAL FUND MONEY THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR TO FUND IT. AND THEN PASTOR HAS A PROJECT. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE, I THINK A WHILE BACK. HE'S DOING A SIDEWALK INSTALLING A SIDEWALK OR SIDEWALK MISSING CURRENTLY FOR SAFE WALKING. IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GRANT HE RECEIVED CENTER PARK DRIVE TRAIL. WE'RE DOING A TRAIL AROUND CENTER PARK DRIVE. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS GRANT MONEY BEHIND IT. THIS IS OUR. THIS IS REIMBURSABLE. ONCE WE GET THE TRAIL INSTALLED. SO THIS IS THE BRIDGE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER 1700 SOUTH. WE HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS WITH THIS. THIS ONE'S BEEN A TOUGH ONE.

WHEN YOU RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO NOW FOLLOW THE BUILD AMERICA BY AMERICA POLICY.

AND IT'S BEEN TOUGH. THIS PROJECT. THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, THE SUB USED TO CONSTRUCT THE BRIDGE, DIDN'T BUILD AMERICA BY AMERICA PARK. SO NOW THE BRIDGE IS STUCK IN SOUTH CAROLINA UNTIL THEY CAN RETROFIT THE BUILD AMERICA. IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THOSE RULES, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN COME BACK AND PULL THE PROJECT, AND THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR THAT PROJECT. SO THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 6 OR 7 MONTHS BEHIND. THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE CHARGED. THEY'LL BE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BECAUSE IT'S DUE. BUT YEAH, THE ABUTMENTS ARE IN.

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PROBABLY GOING UP THE HILL. YEAH. WEST SIDE OF THE PARK. THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. 90 SOUTH HIGHWAY PROJECT. THIS IS THE CONNECTION THERE AT DUCK RIDGE AND CONNECTING TO BINGHAM.

AND FIND YOURSELF THE 1.9 MILLION IS OUR. SHARE IN THE PROJECT. WE HAVE A LOT OF.

WE'RE GETTING FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THIS ESTIMATED PROJECT TO DO THAT CONNECTION. ESTIMATED COST OF 16 MILLION. AND THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE BECAUSE WE HIRED AN ENGINEER TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GETTING GOOD ESTIMATES ON THAT 8200 SOUTH, 600 WEST ROUNDABOUTS ON THE PROJECT LIST.

NOW, TRAFFIC WARRANTS ARE TELLING US WE NEED TO PUT THE ROUNDABOUT IN NOW. THEN WE HAVE ANNUAL TRAFFIC INSTALLATION FUNDING 325 EVERY YEAR. TRAFFIC SIGNAL MAINTENANCE IS OUR CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT'S OUR CONTRACT COSTS. AND THEN THE UDOT. WE'RE GETTING UDOT FUNDS TO HELP WITH THE 5490 WEST SOUTH ROUNDABOUT. THAT WAS IN THE PROJECTS. WE STILL HAVE TO DO DESIGN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? DID YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE DOING A PROJECT ON 1300 WEST? JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE THAT ACTUALLY PHASE TWO HAS STARTED. THEY'VE GOT TRAFFIC SET UP AND THEIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SET UP AND THEY'RE MOVING. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT ONE FINALLY UNDERWAY. AND WE'RE WORKING ON PHASE THREE RIGHT NOW. DESIGN, PROPERTY ACQUISITION. AND THEN THERE'S THE 8 MILLION THAT WE WERE GIVEN FOR PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE AGAIN THIS YEAR. THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR HAVING THE INCREASED FUNDING. THEN 6700 WEST 90 SOUTH HIGHWAY 22 ON WEST CANAL ROAD PROJECT. WE'RE DOING A. WE JUST GOT A STUDY BACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. WE HAVE A CANAL ROAD THAT GOES ALONG, ASPHALT ROAD THAT GOES ALONG THAT SERVES A FEW RESIDENTS ALONG 20 OFF OF 2200. WELL, THAT CANAL BANK IS ERODING AND THE ROADS WASHING OUT. SO WE GOT A STUDY DONE ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO THAT PROJECT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS ONE WE MIGHT BE COMING BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT, BECAUSE COSTS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE. THEN THE YEARLY MANHOLE MAINTENANCE BUDGET WE GET EVERY YEAR 335,000. THAT'S TO GO THROUGH THE CITY AND THEN MAINTAIN MANHOLES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ERODING OR LOWERING OF MANHOLES WHEN WE PAVE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I KNOW WE'VE UTILITIES USE SOME OF THIS TOO, AND WE HELP THEM GET THE MANHOLES, REHAB THE STUDY, THE PCI ANALYSIS I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE PUT IN $100,000 FOR A THREE YEAR STUDY.

I THINK THAT'LL BE SUFFICIENT TO HAVE A THREE YEAR STUDY OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH PCI, AND THAT WILL HELP, I THINK, STEER US IN THE DIRECTION THE WE NEED TO GO. AND WE TALK FOR FUTURE FUNDING, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE ADDITIONAL. ANOTHER, WE HAVE 5000 FOR MISCELLANEOUS STUDIES THAT COME UP THAT WE NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT FOR BRIDGE PROJECTS, 500 $0 IN. WE'VE GOT SOME BRIDGE REPAIRS WE NEED TO DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY ON THE SMALLER BRIDGES. UDOT DOES THE INSPECTIONS, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THE REPAIRS.

WE'VE GOT INSPECTIONS BACK AND WE'VE GOT TO START ON A FEW MINOR REPAIRS ON BRIDGES. AND THEN THIS $180,000 IS THE 1700 SOUTH 11TH WEST BRIDGE. THAT'S THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WE WANT TO WE'RE DOING TO, TO SEE HOW WE CAN WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT BRIDGE AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE.

ON THE BRIDGE OF 78TH BY GARTNER. COUNCIL. JUST A REMINDER TO LAST WEEK, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WALL ON 1300 WEST. PER DIRECTION. WE'LL ADD A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT

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YEP. THE SIDEWALK WILL BE PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT. YEAH. SO WE'RE CITY PROJECT WILL BE THE WALL IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YES. WE'LL WE'LL GO AHEAD OF THE PROJECT ON PHASE THREE. PUT THE WALL IN AND THEN THEY'LL BUILD THE PROJECT WILL BUILD UP TO THAT WALL PARK STRIP. SOME AREAS HAVE PARK STRIP, BUT WILL DEFINITELY BE CURB GUTTER SIDEWALKS. COOL. IT'LL BE NICE ONCE IT'S DONE. YEAH. 15 YEARS. I'M KIDDING. IT FEELS LIKE IT. YEAH, YEAH. SOLID WASTE RIGHT NOW. CURRENTLY WE HAVE A WE HAVE ONE MORE YEAR LEFT ON OUR RENEWAL WITH OUR CURRENT HAULER.

THE RFP IS OUT. WE'VE WORKED WITH PURCHASING TO. WE'VE GOT TO GET NEW PROPOSALS BECAUSE ALL OF OUR RENEWALS ARE DONE. SO JULY TIME FRAME WILL BE GETTING THE PROPOSALS BACK.

WE'LL REVIEW THOSE AND THEN BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN. DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN JUST OPTIONS AND RFP? YEAH, THERE'S A THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND ONE WAS IS WITH THE SEASONAL CAN. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A HOT TOPIC THROUGHOUT THE CITY SINCE WE GOT RID OF GREEN WASTE. IT'S NOW SEASONAL CAN THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT AWAY FROM GREEN WASTE AND CALLED IT A SEASONAL CATTLE, LOT OF RESIDENTS ASSUMED THAT IT WOULD BE PICKED UP ALL YEAR ROUND, WHICH IT'S NOT. WE'RE STILL ON A SEASONAL SCHEDULE.

WE'VE PUT IN AN ADD ALTERNATE TO THE WITH THE PROPOSAL TO GO KEEP IT AS IT IS SEASONALLY TO.

OR ONE OF THE ALTERNATES IS TO PICK UP WEEKLY OR TO DISCONTINUE IT. SO WE. WE'LL SEE WHAT HOW THAT LOOKS WHEN WE GET THE PROPOSALS BACK. ANOTHER ALTERNATE. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ADD ALTERNATE? WE ADDED I CAN'T REMEMBER WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY RECYCLING. YES, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS WITH OUR RECYCLING TONNAGES AND TALKING TO THE DIFFERENT HAULERS, IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF TO GO TO A WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY SERVICE JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY TONNAGES RECYCLING.

BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT THE THE PROPOSALS COME BACK AS. IF I MAY, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF BUDGET POLICY AND PROCUREMENT HERE WITH THIS WITH THIS EXAMPLE. STAFF, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, BRIAN. JOE. THE SOLID WASTE DIVISION AND PUBLIC WORKS PAUL, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WRITING THE RFP AND ISSUING THE RFP TO FIND A VENDOR TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE. THEY PUT IN THESE AD ALTERNATES. SHOULD WE, YOU KNOW, GO TO BIWEEKLY RECYCLING OR WEEKLY RECYCLING? THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION. THAT'S PROCUREMENT, FINDING THE RIGHT VENDOR. THERE'S NO LEGISLATIVE POLICY, BUDGETARY IMPACT ON THAT. THAT'S FINDING THE BEST PRICE, THE BEST VALUE FROM THE VENDOR, HOWEVER. WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS PROCUREMENT PROCESS. THE TEAM WILL DETERMINE, WE THINK THIS VENDOR CAN PROVIDE THE BEST ALTERNATIVES FOR US. BUT WHICH ALTERNATIVE IS SELECTED? WHICH OF THOSE AD ALTERNATES IS SELECTED? THAT'S A COST OF SERVICE. THAT'S A BUDGETARY IMPACT. THAT'S A LEVEL OF SERVICE POLICY DECISION. THAT'S WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL. AND THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON IS IT WORTH SAVING A DOLLAR A MONTH ON THE SOLID WASTE FEE TO GO TO BIWEEKLY RECYCLING OR NOT? SO THERE WILL BE A POINT AT WHICH WE THINK WE KNOW THIS VENDOR PROVIDES THE BEST VALUE. NOW, COUNCIL, WHAT'S THE POLICY DECISION? AND THEN THE BUDGETARY IMPACTS AROUND WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE DO WE WANT TO PROVIDE AS IT RELATES TO WEEKLY VERSUS BIWEEKLY RECYCLING AS IT RELATES TO THE SEASONAL CANS AND SO ON? SO YOU WILL YOU WILL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN THE FINAL DECISION. IT WON'T BE IN SELECTING WHO THE VENDOR IS, IT WILL BE IN SETTING THE SERVICE LEVEL. AND THEN HENCE THE BUDGETARY IMPACTS. WHEN YOU SAY THAT ALL THE TENANTS FOR RECYCLING, DOES THAT MEAN RESIDENTS AREN'T RECYCLING? YEAH, YEAH. IT'S JUST IT'S SO LIGHT TOO. RIGHT. SO WE'RE WE'RE PICKING IT UP WEEKLY AND

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? AGAIN, HERE'S THE ENDING. RESERVES. GETTING A 5% RATE INCREASE EVERY YEAR, BUT JUST HOLDING RESERVE STEADY. ALL RIGHT GREG THERE WE GO. YOU BEAT COREY.

WELL I WASN'T ASKING FOR THE WORLD COREY. TAKE OFF. YEAH. I WANT YOU TO SCRATCH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOTHING LIKE THAT. YOU'RE READY FOR THE LAST ONE HERE. I WAS BORN READY. RIGHT.

THANKS FOR LETTING US BE HERE TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS. LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT A LITTLE THINGS. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING AND ENGINEERING. IF YOU REMEMBER, LAST YEAR WE ADDED A WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM MANAGER. I THINK THAT SHE'S WORKING OUT REALLY WELL. WE'RE SEEING HER WORK WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS LIKE HOA'S AND WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DROUGHT MANAGEMENT GROUP.

WHAT'S HER NAME? WHAT IS THE WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM MANAGER'S NAME? HER NAME IS CINDY MORALES. CINDY. YES, I KNOW EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT. FIRST TIME I WENT TO TYPE AN EMAIL, I PUT IN C AND I'M LIKE. WHY NOT? SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. I REALLY LIKE HAVING HER HERE.

THEY'RE IN THIS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OTHER CHANGES. THERE IS CHANGES TO THE INDIRECT COSTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN, BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE STAYING STEADY.

THEY'RE GOING TO ADD A CLOUD SEEDING FUND. CLOUD SEEDING FUND. WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT.

JUST OVER WETLANDS. YEAH. SHE HAS APPLIED FOR SOME GRANTS FROM JORDAN VALLEY WATER CONSERVANCY DISTRICT THAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR. I THINK WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SOMEWHERE AROUND $770,000 WORTH OF GRANTS. SO IF WE DO GET THOSE, WE WILL GET BACK MORE THAN HALF OF HER SALARY JUST IN GRANTS. AND WE HAVE APPLIED FOR THOSE THERE ABOUT THOSE. AND NOW YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE FUNDED THAT POSITION, THAT WAS PART OF THE INTENT WAS RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN GET PART OF THIS POSITION PAID BACK THROUGH GRANTS FROM JORDAN VALLEY, BUT WE WILL NEED TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND WE HAVE APPLIED FOR THOSE. WE JUST ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM JORDAN VALLEY. THOSE YOU COULD ONLY APPLY FOR THOSE IN MAY OF EVERY YEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID JUST. OKAY, HERE'S THE WATER FUND. IF YOU LOOK ON THIS FUND. THE WATER SALES ARE WELL IN EXCESS OF. THANK YOU. THERE ARE THE OTHER SIDE. SO I'M WONDERING EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS FUND IS GROWING. AND SO IF YOU SEE HERE WE'RE ADDING PROJECTS IN THIS

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THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO AMEND IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE ACCIDENTALLY, BECAUSE THE VERBIAGE IN IN OUR SYSTEM, SAID MP THREE, WE PUT IT UNDER ZONE THREE AND IT WASN'T IT WAS MASTER PLAN THREE, MASTER PLAN. SO WE CALLED IT ZONE THREE TANK IN FISCAL YEAR 2029, 2030 AND 2031. IT'S A $13 MILLION PROJECT. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED ZONE FIVE SOUTH TANK. SO WE'LL AMEND THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IN YOUR PROJECT OR IN YOUR BUDGET TO SHOW THAT AS ZONE FIVE SOUTH TANK, WE IT WILL CHANGE THE FUNDING SOURCE TO BECOME 100% IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THE ZONE THREE TANK WASN'T 100% ELIGIBLE, IT WILL HAVE A CHANGE IN IN NET VALUE, AND IT WILL CHANGE THE RESERVES AND IT WILL RECALCULATE OUR DEBT SERVICE RATIO. SO ALL THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN. WE'LL GIVE YOU A NEW FIVE YEAR PLAN SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE GREG, CHANGES TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BECAUSE GREG DIDN'T SEE THESE BEFOREHAND, BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING LATE.

THESE LITERALLY WERE DONE AT 530. SO WE'RE SORRY IT WAS OUR FAULT. MY FAULT, NOT GREG'S. WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A FUTURE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO FUND SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE WATER, THE WATER FUND. WE NEED OUR LONG TERM WORK, OUR LONG TERM FORECAST OF UTILITIES SUBSIDIZES THE WATER UTILITY FUND FOR OUR WATER STORAGE TANKS. AND WE'RE ALREADY UPSIDE DOWN. SO WE GO FURTHER AND FURTHER, UPSIDE DOWN. OUR SERIES 2021 BOND FUND. THE FINAL PAYMENT IS IN JUNE OF 2030. SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS MIGHT BE THAT WE BOND FOR THAT ZONE FIVE SOUTH TANK, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED UP HERE FOR THE NEXT BOND BECAUSE THE DEBT SERVICE WILL HAVE GONE AWAY. WE'LL USE THE DEBT SERVICE AGAIN AND BOND FOR THAT AND PAY IT WITH IMPACT FEES AS THEY COME IN. BUT I'M NOT CONFIDENT. AND GREG ISN'T EITHER, THAT WE'LL EVER COLLECT ENOUGH IMPACT FEES TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT NEGATIVE BALANCE INTO ITS INTO BEING FLAT. SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO NEED TO ACCEPT AT SOME POINT THAT THE UTILITY HAS SUBSIDIZED THE THE IMPACT FEE, BECAUSE THE IMPACT FEE WAS TOO LOW PREVIOUSLY. IT IS NOT THE ONE THAT YOU YOU HAVE ADOPTED, BUT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY TOO LOW AND THREE IN THE HOLE. AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THE HOLE ONCE YOU'RE IN THERE. SO WE COULD BOND FOR THAT. ZONE FIVE NORTH TANK, WHICH BEGINS IN 2027, WE COULD BOND FOR THE ZONE FIVE SOUTH TANK, WHICH BEGINS IN 2030. SO WE HAVE SOME FINANCIAL STRATEGIES WE CAN TALK ABOUT AS A COUNCIL AND AS ADMINISTRATION, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR US TO DO THAT. SO I HIT THE BUTTON AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO, RIGHT. SO THIS ONE IS OUR NET CHANGE PER YEAR. THE RED LINE IS THE COMBINED EFFECT. THAT'S WHAT REALLY MATTERS WHEN YOU GO TO AN AUDIT, RIGHT. AND AN AUDIT, THEY'RE LIKE, WE JUST CARE ABOUT WHAT YOUR BOTTOM LINE IS. AND SO THEY REALLY DON'T BREAK OUT IMPACT FEE VERSUS THE UTILITY RESERVES. BUT WE DO THAT FOR YOU FOR POLICY AND FOR REPORTABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND FOR THE STATE AUDITORS. SO THE GREEN IS WHAT THE RESERVES ARE IN THE UTILITY. I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE NET CHANGE EACH YEAR. HOW MUCH OUR NET INCOME, RIGHT. REVENUE OVER EXPENSES FOR UTILITIES. THIS YEAR IT'S $5 MILLION. SO IN ESSENCE, WE ESTIMATE WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT $5 MILLION MORE THAN WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN OUR WATER PROJECTS. NOW THAT OR IN OUR WATER UTILITY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T NEED THAT $5 MILLION, BECAUSE WE HAVE HUGE PROJECTS COMING UP WITH WATER LINE REPLACEMENTS AND LEAD AND COPPER PIPES AND ALL THOSE THINGS. SO WE HAVE INTENT FOR THAT RESERVE. OUR WATER RATE IS AT THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT WE ARE COLLECTING QUITE A BIT MORE IN REVENUE THAN WE HAVE

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THESE ARE OUR RESERVE ESTIMATED RESERVE FUNDING BALANCES. SO THIS IS FISCAL YEAR 2027. THIS IS THE BUDGET YOU'RE ADOPTING. THE REASON I DIDN'T ASK FOR A WATER RATE INCREASE IS BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE WATER UTILITY ENDING RESERVES ARE BETWEEN 50 AND $60 MILLION IN THE UTILITY FUND. THEY ARE SUBSIDIZING THE IMPACT FEE FUND, WHICH YOU CAN SEE RUNS INTO THE HOLE EVENTUALLY AT $51 MILLION. SO YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT SUBSIDIZATION. I CAN'T BRING THE RESERVES IN THE UTILITY DOWN, BECAUSE THEN I WOULD BE IN THE HOLE AS A AS A HOLE, AS A WATER FUND. BUT HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY, OR MAYBE EVEN DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, WE COLLECT THE IMPACT FEES TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND BRING IT A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE HOLE, MORE THAN MAYBE EVEN OUR ESTIMATES. AND THEN THE RED LINE IS THE COMBINED BALANCE OF ALL OF IT, SO NO RATE INCREASES. I DON'T LOVE IT. I, YOU KNOW, ME, I LOVE TO LIFT THINGS A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME AND BE READY FOR. BUT I WASN'T SURE IF I FELT LIKE I COULD DO THOSE RATE INCREASES IN THIS BUDGET. WHEN WE'VE GOT 50 AND $60 MILLION IN THE UTILITY FUND AND RESERVES AND NO. WHILE WE HAVE A PLAN OR NEEDS FOR WATER REPLACEMENT LINES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THEM IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN TO SPEND. SO THAT WOULD BE WHY I DID. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT WAS WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS OR WHAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD DO. THE COUNCIL CAN SAY WE WANT TO DO A 2% RATE INCREASE NO MATTER WHAT, EVERY YEAR, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED. I CAN SUPPORT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I JUST I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET THAT THAT WOULD BE WISE. SO IS IT A LONG TERM PROBLEM THAT THE IMPACT FEES ARE? OKAY, SO WE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. IT'S A LONG TERM PROBLEM AT SOME POINT. AND GREG AND I HAVE TALKED MANY TIMES AND I'M LIKE, NO, NOT YET. SO EVEN WITH THE RESERVES SO HIGH, IT'S A PROBLEM. THE IMPACTS LIKE IT'S NOT GOOD PRACTICE TO KEEP ON. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY, EVEN IF WE FILL EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY SPACE OF OPEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL COLLECT IMPACT FEES ON, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WORLD WILL BE COLLECTING $51 MILLION WORTH. AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FORGIVE SOMETHING IN HERE. WHAT IT IS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT RIGHT NOW AS A CITY, RIGHT. WE HAVE. SOUTHWEST QUADRANT LEFT. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WATER. AND YOU HAVE WHAT IVAN HAS AND THAT'S IT. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE ONLY SO MANY UNITS, I IMAGINE AFTER YOU FINISH SOUTHWEST QUADRANT I'LL KNOW THE BUILD OUT UNITS FOR THE CITY CLOSELY, EXCEPT FOR SOME STATIONARY PROJECTS THAT WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. AND SO WE'RE REALLY LIMITED ON HOW MANY IMPACT FEES THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET. AND THAT'S WHY WE BOTH AGREE THE CHANCES OF US WORKING OUR WAY OUT OF THE HOLE WITH FUTURE IMPACT FEES, THIS PROBLEM IS THIS BECAUSE WE ARE FORGIVING THEM, OR EVENTUALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP DOING. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS THE IMPACT FEE. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT START OF WHAT IT WAS ADOPTED AT A DISCOUNT. IT WAS ADOPTED AS A DISCOUNT BECAUSE THE COUNCILS FELT THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME. AND I THINK YOU HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES EARLIER THIS YEAR.

RIGHT? YOU HAD A LOT OF CHOICES. THE COUNCIL'S THEN PICKED THE CHOICE THEY HAD. AT SOME POINT, THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE CHOICES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FELT. AND ULTIMATELY, THE RATEPAYERS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO FEEL THAT. SO NO, SORRY. WELL, GREAT. JUST. IN A PERFECT WORLD, IMPACT FEES PAY PERFECTLY FOR THE COST OF THE NEW GROWTH. WHEN WE GET IN A HOLE LIKE THIS, THE TANK STILL HAS TO GET BUILT. IT JUST MEANS THAT A TANK THAT SERVES NEW GROWTH IS PAID 60% BY THAT GROWTH AND 40% BY THE CITY AS A WHOLE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE

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THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS AND IMPACT FEE STUDY TOO, IS WE'RE PREDICTING AHEAD. YEAH.

RIGHT. AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. WATER TANK FOR ME BEFORE COVID COSTS $4 MILLION FOR A 3 MILLION GALLON WATER TANK ZONE, ZONE FIVE NORTH IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. IT'S A 4 MILLION GALLON WATER TANK. IT'S GOING TO COST FOUR TIMES MORE THAN COVID. SO BEFORE COVID, SO IT'LL BE CLOSE TO $12 MILLION. OKAY. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER, RIGHT? BUT IT'S STILL THAT WAY. CEMETERY WAS A 3 MILLION GALLON TANK. IT COST US 9 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH IN BEFORE COVID, IT WAS COSTING UNDER, RIGHT AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT UNDER. SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU HAD PLANNED ALL YOUR IMPACT FEES AND YOU PLANNED IT PRE-COVID COSTS, AND THEN YOU NEVER CHANGE ANYTHING. BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO TODAY, YOU'RE EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THIS, YOU WOULD BE IN THE. OKAY. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU TAKE THAT CHECK I GOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WASN'T REALLY FREE. NO, IT WAS NOT. BUT IT ALSO SHOWS. IT ALSO SHOWS US YOU AS A COUNCIL, LOOKING AT IMPACT FEES AT A MORE THAN JUST ONCE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE DOING. THAT PUTS YOU AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE AND SEE IF YOU CAN UPDATE THOSE TO REAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS QUICKER AND IT'S BETTER FOR YOU TO GET LESS IN A HOLE LIKE THIS. OKAY, SO KNOWING THIS, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I ARE NEW, CURRENT COUNCIL OR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN US, WHEN YOU SEE THIS AS, DOES IT MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU TO SAY NO, TO DISCOUNT IMPACT FEES AND OR IS THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR JIM. RIGHT.

THERE'S NOTHING EASY ABOUT WATER, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, OR IMPACT FEES. YOU'RE GOING TO BALANCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES AND GOALS AGAINST THE WATER FUND, AGAINST THE THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROJECTS RELATED TO GROWTH STRICTLY FROM IMPACT FEES.

THAT'S A POLICY DECISION. AND THERE'S THERE'S NOT A WRONG ANSWER. THERE'S JUST HARD QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE POSED TO YOU IN THOSE AREAS. YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO BALANCE CONSERVATION AND CHARGE THE THE FEES FOR WATER AGAINST THE POLITICAL PRESSURE TO KEEP THE COST OF WATER LOWER. WATER IS HARD BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE COMPETING PRESSURES. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY TOO, IS TOMORROW'S IMPACT. FEE PAYERS ARE ALSO GOING TO BE MY RATEPAYERS AS SOON AS THEY GET IN THEIR HOME, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGE TO HAVING MORE RATEPAYERS AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT A SIMPLE QUESTION THAT YOU'VE ASKED. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, AS COUNCIL, YOU GUYS FACE HARD QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. CAPITAL PROJECTS. THERE ARE GOING TO BE $17 MILLION PROPOSED IN WATER. I THINK. ZACH. ZACH. YEAH. CAN YOU BACK UP ONE SLIDE? THAT FIVE YEAR THING? WHAT WOULD THE EFFECT BE ON THIS SLIDE. AND BASICALLY WATER REVENUES IN GENERAL, IF WE HAD A COUPLE OF REALLY WET YEARS. MY ASSUMPTIONS FOR WATER SALES ARE BASED ON NOT OUR HIGHEST YEAR, BUT OUR AVERAGE YEAR. SO APPLYING OUR AVERAGE SALES TO OUR CURRENT FEE

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THAT WILL ALSO CHANGE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE IMPACT FEES, IMBALANCES. YOU CAN'T COUNT ON THAT. RIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO THINK OF. THINK ABOUT IS ONE THING THE WATER BOARD DOES IS THEY HAVE A THEY CALL IT A REVENUE STABILIZATION FUND. IT'S BASICALLY A PORTION OF THEIR RESERVES THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A DRY YEAR, YOU DUMP MORE MONEY.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE HIGHER THAN AVERAGE SALES, YOU DUMP MORE MONEY INTO THESE RESERVES.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LOWER THAN AVERAGE SALES, YOU PULL MONEY OUT OF THESE RESERVES. THEY CALL IT THE REVENUE STABILIZATION FUND. AND TO STABILIZE REVENUE, IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE. MY MY THOUGHT WAS WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY PULL MONEY ASIDE AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR REVENUE STABILIZATION FOR WHAT, YEARS OR DRY YEARS OR, YOU KNOW, DRY YEARS WHERE THE GOVERNOR AND THE WATER DISTRICT AND THE CITY ALL SAY, HEY, REDUCE YOUR LOAD BY 10%. THAT SHOULD REDUCE OUR WATER SALES BY 10%, HOPEFULLY. RIGHT. SO SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD JUST WANT TO CONSIDER AS WE DO THIS IS THAT REVENUE OR NOT REVENUE, BUT FUND BALANCE IN THE WATER FUND IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN FUND BALANCE IN A SOLID WASTE FUND OR GENERAL FUND OR SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE WE ACTIVELY TRY TO SELL LESS. WE CONSTANTLY PREACH CONSERVATION. WE ACTIVELY TRY TO TO, TO TELL PEOPLE NOT TO USE AS MUCH. AND SO THE RESERVES PROBABLY NEED TO BE HANDLED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE EVEN IN A WET YEAR WHERE WE DON'T SELL AS MUCH OR IN A SUPER DRY YEAR WHEN WE TELL PEOPLE NOT TO USE AS MUCH, AND THEREFORE WE DON'T SELL AS MUCH, OUR EXPENSES DON'T REALLY CHANGE A LOT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, OUR NEED, OUR, OUR WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS. AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS THAT THAT FUNCTION, THEY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT WITH HOW MUCH WATER IS FLOWING THROUGH THE PIPES, BUT THEY DON'T CHANGE AS MUCH AS THE ACTUAL SALES DO AS THE REVENUE DOES. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE, AS WE DO THIS AND WE, WE SEE A LARGE FUND BALANCE. THERE WE GO. OH, SHOOT, HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE DO WE ACTUALLY NEED IN THIS? AND WHAT SHOULD OUR PRACTICE BE? AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS THAT, WELL, THIS IS THE ONLY FUND WHERE WE TELL PEOPLE, HEY, TRY TO SPEND LESS, TRY TO GIVE US LESS. WE DON'T DO IT ON SEWER. WE DON'T DO IT ON STORMWATER. WE DON'T DO IT ON ON SOLID WASTE. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE ONLY FUND WHERE WE DO THAT. AND SO IT'S GOT TO BE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE THAT WATER PURCHASES ARE ABOUT 30, 30 TO 35% OF THE RATE, RIGHT? SO THE RATE REPRESENTS THE RECOVERY OF OUR STAFFING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THAT.

AND ABOUT ONE THIRD OF IT GOES TOWARDS THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF WATER FROM JORDAN VALLEY. YEAH, THAT'S ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, NOT ON THE REVENUE SIDE. RIGHT. CORRECT. RIGHT. THE REVENUES OF THIS FUND ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY. THE REVENUE IS ALL A RATE. BUT I'M SAYING THAT THE RATE IS MADE UP OF ONE THIRD OF THE RATE WOULD REPRESENT THE EXPENSE OF ONE THIRD. ONE THIRD

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WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE SOUTH VALLEY WATER IS GOING TO BE SOUTH VALLEY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY WILL BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PLANT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO WHEN THEY FINALLY PULL THE TRIGGER ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A HUGE SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM OR TO OUR RESIDENTS OF HAVING TO RAISE RATES SO MUCH. IF YOU SAW LAST YEAR, JORDAN BASIN, I WANT TO SAY RAISE THEIR RATES 20% IN ONE YEAR. WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO AVOID SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO DENISE HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT JUST ADDING 5% EVERY YEAR SO THAT WHEN THOSE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS DO COME IN AND MOSTLY THERE'S THOSE ARE FOR FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS AND FOR THERMAL DRYING. BUT WHEN THOSE COME IN, THAT'S WHEN THIS INCREASE WILL REALLY MAKE GOOD SENSE. AND THEY TOLD YOU HOW MUCH IT WILL COST WHEN THEY MAKE THOSE. OR WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST ESTIMATING WE HAVE I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BRING THIS UP IN HERE. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU STICKER SHOCK. YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT AS PART OF THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. AND YOU JUST SET THE STAGE. JUST SAY THE BAND AID OFF. IT'S SOMEWHERE. AND AND YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THIS.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOR THE WHOLE, FOR THE WHOLE PLANT, WHICH WE'RE ABOUT 50%, RIGHT? SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 180 MILLION AND 250. YEAH. SEWER SEWER PLANTS ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. JORDAN BASIN JUST DID ONE OF THEM, HALF OF THEIR IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEY SPENT 400 MILLION. GOOD QUESTION. IS FOR OTHER CITIES TOO. YEAH. WE WON'T BE THE ONLY OH NO. WE ARE LIKE 70% OF IT. SO SANDY GOES INTO THIS. MIDVALE GOES INTO THIS. THERE ARE SOME OTHER LITTLE PLACES I REALIZE WE WERE 70%. WE ARE THE LION'S SHARE, THE LARGEST. AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF JORDAN BASIN THAT'S IN THERE, BUT THEY'LL BE PHASING THEMSELVES OUT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IN THE FUTURE WE WILL BE A LARGE PART OF THIS.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THE RATES AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT INCREASES SO THAT WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, WE'LL HAVE SOME RESERVES. MOST LIKELY THAT'LL BE A BOND. BY THE WAY THEY THEY WON'T COME ASK EVERYBODY FOR THAT MONEY ALL AT ONCE. MY GUESS IS THEY WILL ASK FOR A BOND. SOME OF THEM HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY IT IN CASH. THEY ARE VERY FLUSHING CASH. SOME OF THOSE SMALL DISTRICTS HAVE A TON OF CASH. IT'S THE CITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BOND THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BOND. AND AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE DEBT THAT WE PAY BOND PAYMENTS TO SOUTH VALLEY WATER.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE NOTE OVER HERE. OUR DEBT TO SOUTH VALLEY WATER WILL BE PAID OFF IN 2031.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING HARD TO HOLD THEM OFF FROM SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND FROM BONDING AGAIN UNTIL WE'RE PAID OFF, SO THAT THEN WE CAN TAKE ON MORE DEBT IN A SIMILAR FASHION. AND SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PLEASE JUST DO WHAT THEY NEED TO UNTIL 2031, WHEN OUR DEBTS ARE PAID OFF. THERE'S SOME ALSO SOME THINGS ABOUT HOW SEWER FEE, WHAT SEWER FEES ARE AFFECTED BY. AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR RESIDENTS ON LEAK ALARMS, WHICH WE HADN'T

[02:15:04]

OKAY. SO THIS IS ONE THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS IN JUNE OR JULY. WE'VE GOT THE RATE STUDY MOVING FORWARD FOR BOTH WATER AND SEWER, AND WE'D LIKE TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL IN A NON-BUDGET KIND OF SITUATION. RATES TYPICALLY CHANGE IN OCTOBER, SO WE HAVE SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THOSE STUDIES AND DECIDE WHAT KIND OF STRATEGY YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. BUT ON THE SEWER SIDE, OUR OPERATIONS AND OUR COSTS DON'T FLUCTUATE WITH USE REALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR REVENUE FLUCTUATES WITH USE, BUT OUR ACTUAL EXPENSE DOES NOT FLUCTUATE. WE HAVE TO PAY THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT WHETHER WE TAKE GIVE THEM SEWAGE OR NOT.

SO OUR FEES, OUR FEES DON'T ADJUST WITH OUR ACTUAL USAGE. SORRY, WE'RE BRINGING YOU A RATE STUDY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO LOOK AT IS, AND WE'VE HAD THE COUNCIL LOOK OUT IN THE PAST, IS A FLAT SEWER RATE VERSUS A USAGE SEWER RATE. SO AS A COUNCIL, WE'LL BRING BOTH NUMBERS TO YOU. WE'LL TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD AFFECT. BUT THE MAJORITY OF SEWER COMPANIES JUST CHARGE A FLAT RATE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FLUCTUATE, RIGHT. SO WE'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION FLAT RATE FOR RESIDENTIAL NOT FOR COMMERCIAL. YEAH. THANK YOU. NOT FOR ANYONE THAT'S METERED. IT WOULD NOT BE FLOWERY. IT WOULD BE A FLAT RATE FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO WE'LL BRING YOU THAT INFORMATION AND A RATE STUDY. BUT WE JUST WANT YOU TO KIND OF BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF CHART THAT WE JUST SHOWED YOU ON THE NET CHANGE, MEANING REVENUE TO EXPENSE AND THE UTILITY VERSUS THE IMPACT FEES. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE IMPACT FEES ARE GOING NEGATIVE EVERY YEAR, AND THAT'S BASED ON THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PAYING ON THAT DEBT SERVICE FROM THAT SOUTH VALLEY SEWER.

SO A LOT OF THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT WAS PLANT EXPANSION, WHICH HAD DIRECT NEXUS TO IMPACT FEES. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S GOING DOWN. AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT QUICK CHANGE FROM A NEGATIVE TO A POSITIVE IN 2032, BECAUSE THAT DEBT COMES OFF. BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL ISSUE MORE DEBT AND IT WILL FLIP IT BACK UPSIDE DOWN. THAT BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, THAT DEBT WILL BE UTILITY BASED AND IT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPMENT BASED BECAUSE OUR PLANT IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY. THE CAPACITY WE NEED, IT WOULD NOT BE ADDING NEW CAPACITY.

THEREFORE IT WOULD NOT BE IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE. OKAY, SO THE SEWER IMPACT FEE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT RIGHT. LIKE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABOUT RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

WE'LL PAY SEWER OFF. YEAH. SEWER MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY ITSELF OFF. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO GO THE NEXT ONE REAL QUICK. AND THEN THESE ARE THE RESERVES I LIED SORRY THOSE NET CHANGES DIDN'T DO IT. DARN IT. NO YOU'RE FINE. THIS IS OUR RESERVES AGAIN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT IT. I WASN'T EVEN THINKING. I WAS THINKING OF JUST THE NET CHANGE. BUT NO, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE AFTER THIS YEAR WILL BE NEGATIVE NINE OF $13.9 MILLION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COLLECT WHAT WE BELIEVE IS ABOUT $18.2 MILLION OVER THE LIFETIME, BUT IT WILL BE WAY BETTER THAN THE WATERFRONT. IT WILL NOT BE $51 MILLION. SO BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RESERVES AND THE SEWER FUND, BECAUSE I AM INCREASING THE RATE A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME OR RECOMMENDING TO YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AT 5%, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT THOSE RESERVES ARE INCREASED IN THE UTILITY FUND AND YOU'VE GOT SOME HEALTHY RESERVES IN THERE.

[02:20:03]

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THAT PIPELINE REPLACEMENT ON SOUTH. THERE ARE ALSO SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS WHERE PIPELINE REPLACEMENT MANHOLES. WE HAVE SOME PIPES THAT ARE VERY, VERY OLD. I DON'T SEE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH CLAY PIPES OR WITH PLASTIC PIPES, BUT OUR CITY FOR A WHILE USED CONCRETE PIPES AND THAT H2O GAS, IT JUST FEEDS ON CONCRETE. SO I'M SEEING PROBLEMS WITH THAT. I'LL PROBABLY COME TO YOU WITH ANOTHER PROJECT AT SOME POINT, A 90TH SOUTH, WHERE I SEE A PIPE THAT IS, WE'RE SEEING UNUSUAL WEAR IN THERE, SO IT'S EASIER TO FIX A PIPE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S IN THE GROUND. THAN AFTER AND AND INTACT AND WHEN IT'S NOT, WHEN IT STARTS TO BREAK APART, WE HAVE TO DIG IT UP AND REPLACE IT. BUT IF IT'S STILL THERE, I CAN PUT A LINER, I CAN PUT A PLASTIC LINER HERE. JUST LIKE ROADS. YEAH, JUST LIKE THE ROADS. IF WE TAKE CARE OF THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE REGULARLY, IT KEEPS THE OVERALL COSTS DOWN THAN PUTTING IT OFF, PUTTING IT OFF AND THEN HAVING A BIG EXPENSE. SO THAT'S THE SYSTEM MAINTENANCE FOR PYTHON. ANIMALS ARE FOR US TO FIX THOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO DIG UP EVERY CREDIT. OKAY, SO STORMWATER FUND AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A BIG CHANGE IN THIS. I DON'T SEE A FEE CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.

AGAIN NO RATE CREASES. WE HAVE MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS. BUT AS YOU SEE. UNTIL WE GET TO 23 AND 2020 2032 WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. SO HERE'S THAT NET CHANGE AGAIN. AND AS YOU NOTICE HERE WE ALSO HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH OUR. NOT AS BIG AS ANY OTHER FEES. AND AS YOU NOTICE HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ON THIS. OH THIS ONE'S GOOD ACTUALLY. YEAH. THIS IS A GOOD ONE. IF YOU LOOK HERE, HERE'S OUR RESERVES. NOT SO BAD. $7 MILLION IS NOT A BAD PLACE TO HAVE FOR OUR STORMWATER FUND.

WELL, AND I THINK IT'S YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT. WITH THE 3.5 MILLION ATTORNEY.

YES. LET'S GO TO THIS ONE. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT. SOME OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS, RIGHT, ARE DETENTION DETENTION FACILITY AT 111 AT BARNEY'S CREEK, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN SO THAT WE CAN BETTER PROTECT THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE EAST OF SR 111. TERRAIN IS ALSO PUTTING IN A LARGE SYSTEM PROJECT. THEY'RE PUTTING IN A 48 AND 54 INCH PIPE DOWN 74 FROM SR 111 ALL THE WAY TO MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR. WE HAVE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT FROM WHAT'S IN YOUR BOOK THAT CHANGES IT FROM TWO AND A HALF TO THREE AND A HALF. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE ORIGINAL COST WE HAD WAS WHAT WE HAD IN A MASTER PLAN. THE 3.5 MILLION IS THE COST WE GOT FROM THE CONTRACTOR. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRE-COVID VERSUS POST-COVID HERE. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. THIS IS AN IMPACT FEE PROJECT. SO IT WILL BE PAID FOR OUT OF OUR IMPACT FEES, WHICH WE DO HAVE EXTRA IN OUR IMPACT FEES RIGHT NOW. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS OUT HERE? OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. LAST ONE IS THE IT

[02:25:08]

SO WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED IT LAST WEEK AND IT WAS FOR THE HALF $1 MILLION. SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT. BUT YES, WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF INVESTMENT INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SORRY, THE COST OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE GOING LIKE THIS. YOU MENTIONED DUE TO THE CYBER ATTACK. THAT'S ALSO DUE TO SOME CRITICAL INVESTMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY CITY WORKS. WE MADE A BIG INVESTMENT IN CITY WORKS THAT STARTED 12, 15 YEARS AGO WITH THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON CITY WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC UTILITIES, AND THEN WE DOUBLED DOWN ON THE PLL SIDE FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO DO ALL OF OUR PERMIT LICENSING PLAN REVIEW CITY WORKS LAST YEAR WORKED. WE MADE A BIG COMMITMENT TO GO FORWARD WITH WORK DAY TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE VALUE PROPOSITION TO THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, BUT AT AN EXPENSE BY PUTTING IN WORK DAY AND YUNA AND ALL OF THE BUDGETING, THE BUDGETING, FINANCE, UTILITY, HR SOFTWARE, THAT WAS A BIG ADD AND WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY BIG ADDS IN TECHNOLOGY WITH POLICE. BETWEEN THE BODY, THE BODY CAMERAS, THE EVIDENCE TRACKING, THE THE FUZES, WHICH IS IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH IS THE COORDINATED EFFORTS OF ALL THE CAMERAS, AND THEN THE AI ASSISTED POLICE REPORT. ALL OF THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE, IN ADDITION TO THE CYBER ATTACK, WE MADE INTENTIONAL TECHNOLOGY INCREASES AND INVESTMENTS. BUT IT ADDS UP. IT'S EXPENSIVE. WE ARE ALSO REPLACING OUR UTILITY BILLING SYSTEM AS WELL. SO ALL OF THOSE ADDS HAVE ADDED UP TO A PRICE TAG, BUT THEY'RE INCREASING OUR SERVICE LEVEL AND BRINGING US TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE CENTURY. I'M JUST KIDDING. IN THIS DECADE. SO THE ASSESSMENTS ARE COMING IN FROM ALL OF THE FUNDS. THAT'S THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE IT FUND. AND THEN OPERATIONS IS ALL OF THE PERSONNEL, OPERATIONS, EQUIPMENT, SOME OF THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN WE CALL OUT PARTICULARLY THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. SO THIS YEAR, OUR COMMUNICATION SYSTEM IS OUR CELL PHONES, ALL OF OUR PARKS, ALL OF OUR RADIOS, THAT KIND OF THING WE'RE BRINGING IN. WE'VE ASKED FOR A CONSULTANT TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR IN THE IT FUND TO EVALUATE THAT USAGE. AND WHAT'S THE BEST USAGE FOR US? WHAT ARE THE BEST PLANS FOR US TO USE? WHO NEEDS A CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE VERSUS A STIPEND? THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE'LL BE EVALUATING THAT. AND WE'RE HOPING TO FIND SOME SAVINGS THERE IN THE FUTURE. EQUIPMENT AND MINOR PROJECTS IS OUR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR THINGS LIKE THE SIMPLIVITY SERVER AND OTHER SERVERS OVERALL IN IT. AND THEN OUR CONTRACTS AND LEASES. THAT'S OUR BIGGEST, OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE. AND THAT IS THE CONTRACTS FOR ALL OF THE SOFTWARE THAT SUPPORTS THE CITY OVERALL. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ABOUT $4 MILLION NEXT YEAR. AND THEN SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION IS THE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS FOR THESE ONE TIME IMPLEMENTATIONS

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SO. ANYWAY. SOMETHING I'VE BEEN CONSIDERING AND WONDERING ABOUT IS THE ADDITION OF THE FULL TIME STAFF MEMBER IN THE PASSPORT OFFICE. I KNOW YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. I'M INTERESTED IN THAT, YES. WE'RE WE'RE REMOVING. AS IT'S BEEN PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR TO TWO PART TIME POSITIONS AND ADDING ONE FULL TIME POSITION. AND I THINK THAT FULL TIME POSITION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I REACHED OUT, SENT AN EMAIL TO SLOAN. SHE SAID THAT THE ONE FULL TIME POSITION HAS A LOT MORE STABILITY TO THE OFFICE. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE.

[02:40:01]

SO I'M JUST GOING TO PROPOSE TO THE OFFICE AND COUNCIL MEMBER. JACOB, IF YOU'RE STILL LISTENING, I HAVE I'M PROPOSING THAT WE. WE KEEP ONE OF THOSE PART TIME POSITIONS STILL ELIMINATE ONE OF THEM. WE KEEP KEEP ONE OF THOSE PART TIME POSITIONS AND OF NEW FULL TIME POSITION, JUST TO HAVE A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE AND TO, AND TO REALLY MAINTAIN THE HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT HAS. OUR PASSPORT OFFICE HAS COME TO BE KNOWN FOR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GOOGLE REVIEWS ON OUR PASSPORT OFFICE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE TOP THERE. WE'RE WE'RE A MODEL AGENCY. YEAH. AND, AND THAT WOULDN'T INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. NO, WOULDN'T AT LEAST NOT. I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD ASK THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW OVER HERE, BUT THE THE PASSPORT OFFICE IS A NET POSITIVE TO THE CITY, RIGHT. SO THEY THEY BRING IN MORE MONEY THAN THEY SPEND.

IT WOULD STILL INCREASE BECAUSE OF WHATEVER MONEY PAID. BUT NOW, WHEN DID YOU TALK TO MISS SLOAN ABOUT THIS IDEA OF. I WENT AND ASKED HER ABOUT IT TODAY IN HER OFFICE, AND SHE TRIED TO STAY NEUTRAL ABOUT IT. YEAH, I DID THE SAME. I TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT AS WELL, AND SHE WAS LIKE, WE CAN GET BY WITH THE, THE FULL TIME. BUT SHE DID SEEM TO. BUT IF YOU GAVE US MORE, WE HAVE. SO I'M INTERESTED ABOUT THAT. WE CAN LOOK INTO POSSIBLY THAT. AGAIN, THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE CAN DO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE. PROCESS WISE, IF WE. IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WOULD THAT BE ON THE BUDGET NEXT WEEK OR WOULD THAT BE PART OF SOMETHING WE HAD DURING THE UPCOMING MONTHS? YEAH. SO LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT BUDGET AND WHAT YOU'RE SORRY, ZACH. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER JACOB. SO WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING ON THE NINTH IS ADOPTING A RESOLUTION WITH INTENT TO EXCEED THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, RIGHT? THAT'S GOING TO SAY WHAT YOU

[02:45:01]

LIKE IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL OPINION ON, THEN WE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE BUDGET FOR THAT. SO THINGS THAT THE, THE STAFF HAVE SAID, TAKE OUT THAT TRAIL GRANT, OR WE'LL NEED $8.4 MILLION FOR THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS INSTEAD OF FIVE. LIKE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY NOT BUDGET IMPACTFUL BECAUSE WE'RE REDUCING THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, INCREASING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. THERE'S NO INCREASE OR DECREASE TO THE PROPERTY TAX IMPACT SCHEDULE, BUT THAT BUDGET WILL STAND AS AN OPERATING BUDGET ON JULY 1ST. AND ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE PROPERTY TAX IMPACT SCHEDULE WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE SPENT. SO YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE ADOPTING WELL CAN BE CHANGED OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, AND YOU CAN AMEND THE BUDGET AT ANY TIME OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, I MEAN, NEXT 12 MONTHS. BUT THAT WHAT YOU ARE ADOPTING BECOMES AN OPERATING BUDGET. THE ONLY THING THAT IS UNTOUCHABLE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THAT PROPERTY TAX IMPACT SCHEDULE. AND THOSE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE SPENT AFTER JULY 1ST. OKAY. AND YOU WON'T UNTIL UNTIL THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PROCESS IS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST. YEAH. SO YOU WON'T ADOPT A BUDGET, YOUR NEXT MEETING, THEY'LL BE DELIBERATIONS. AND ON THE IN DURING THAT MEETING, WE WILL GIVE YOU WORKSHEETS DURING THIS NEXT WEEK THAT WILL SAY, THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT ARE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, RIGHT. BUT THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO DIRECT US DURING THAT MEETING IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF CHANGE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE, AND THEN WE WILL BE ADOPTING ON THE 23RD.

IS THAT RIGHT? THE NINTH WE ADOPTED TENTATIVE. OKAY. AND THE 23RD, WE ADOPT THE INTERIM.

OKAY. SO CHANGES DURING THAT. TWO IS WHAT AUTHORIZES THE TENTATIVE IS FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. THE INTERIM IS WHAT AUTHORIZES EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST. YES. OKAY. SO OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY NOT AN OPERATING BUDGET UNTIL ADOPTING THE INTERIM BUDGET, RIGHT. WHICH WILL BE JUNE 23RD. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME THAT DELIBERATION NEXT WEEK WILL BE CRITICAL BECAUSE WE NEED TIME TO LIKE MAKE ALL THE CHANGES ON OUR SIDE. THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN, WHAT IS IT, THE MAYOR'S BUDGET THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN AFTER JULY 1ST? THAT IS NOT ON THE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ADVANCE NOTICE. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL, AND WE DO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY. SO GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER JACOB, IF YOU WANT TO TALK JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T OVERRUN YOU. KNOW YOU FIVE MINUTES AGO NOW, BUT I'M SORRY. NO, I WANTED OKAY, THIS IS ALL VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND GOOD TO KNOW. I WAS GOING TO CHIME IN ON ON COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON'S PROPOSAL ON THE PASSPORT OFFICE. AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THIS.

THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE SHORT TERM. OH, BUT LOOK AT COST MORE. OR YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE LONG TERM OF OH, BUT LOOK, IT SAVES MONEY IN THE LONG RUN OR IT MAKES US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. OR IT PROVIDES US WITH BETTER SERVICE OR WHATEVER.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU CAN SAY, YEAH, A FULL TIME PERSON, YOU GOT TO PAY THEM BENEFITS. AND SO IT COSTS MORE THAN TWO PART TIME PEOPLE. THAT'S TRUE. BUT YOU'RE ALSO REPLACING THEM LESS OFTEN. YOU'RE SAVING TURNOVER EXPENSE, YOU'RE SAVING TRAINING EXPENSE, YOU'RE SAVING, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION IN SERVICE LEVELS AND ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS. AND IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. AND THIS KIND OF THING POPS UP ALL OVER THE BUDGET. THE MORE YOU DO THIS, THE MORE YOU SEE THIS EXACT KIND OF TRADE OFF AROUND EVERY CORNER. AND YOU SEE THAT IT'S SOMETIMES WORTH IT TO BUY SOMETHING NOW THAT COSTS A LITTLE MORE, IN THIS CASE, AN EMPLOYEE BENEFITS OR WHATEVER FOR THE FUTURE SAVINGS AND THE FUTURE IMPACT THAT IT WILL HAVE

[02:50:04]

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, WELL DONE, POINT THAT OUT, AND IT'S EXACTLY, EXACTLY RIGHT. THANK YOU. BUT ONE THING THAT. WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO MISS SLOAN. SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE STRESS LEVELS AND THE MENTAL HEALTH OF HER ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE THAT SHE CURRENTLY HAS.

SHE FEELS LIKE THAT PERSON IS SUPER VALUABLE TO THEIR TEAM. AND I DON'T I KNOW IT'S A MAN.

I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME, BUT SORRY, HIS NAME IS ARNOLD AND HE IS SUPER VALUABLE. SHE'S. I ASKED HER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU LOST HIM IF HE WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND SHE SAID IT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THEIR TO THE PASSPORT OFFICE. SO MY THOUGHT IS IF WE GIVE THEM A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM IN ONE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE, THAT'S JUST PART TIME, THAT IT MIGHT HELP ARNOLD TO, TO NOT FEEL AS MUCH STRESS TO, TO FEEL LIKE HE'S GOT THAT THE CITY HAS HIS BACK. IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO COME TO WORK ONE DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE DIDN'T MENTION THAT SHE FELT LIKE HER STAFF MEMBERS ARE UNDER A GREAT DEAL OF STRESS. YEAH. I THINK GOING THROUGH THIS BUDGET, I DON'T AND I HAVEN'T TO ANY BUDGET WE'VE HAD. I DON'T SEE THIS THESE FRIVOLOUS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ASKS GO THROUGH. I, I TALKED TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SAID, I NEED YOU TO TELL ME WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MAKE THIS CITY RUN.

WELL, NOT JUST LIMP. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THEY'VE DONE THAT HERE. WAS THERE ANY MORE YOU NEEDED TO SAY, ELLEN, ON SOME STUFF? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE ONE OTHER CRITICAL PIECE THAT BECKY KIND OF ALLUDED TO ON THE NINTH IS YOU WILL SET THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE RATE, WHICH THE MAYOR'S BUDGET PROPOSED, 2.26. SO IF YOU'RE THINKING, AS EARLIER TODAY BEAT DAYS AND MAYBE FUNDING THAT OR DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH THAT PROPERTY TAX RATE, ONCE YOU DEFINE THAT ON THE NINTH, THAT IS SET, YOU CAN GO BELOW, BUT YOU HAVE A CEILING. YOU CAN'T GO. THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING EARLIER, WE DON'T NEED TO JUMP, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE THAT'S A TRIGGER WE CAN PULL LATER. YOU COULD EVEN JUST SAY WE WANT TO GO TO 3%. AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY THAT, RIGHT. I MEAN, IT COULD BE CIP FUNDING OR IT COULD BE WHATEVER. IF YOU WANTED TO SET THAT A LITTLE HIGHER SO THAT YOU HAD TIME TO.

BUT WITH THAT, IF WE DECIDED LATER THAT WE WANTED TO ADD THAT HALF. YEAH, THAT'S THAT THAT PERSON THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE UNLESS WE TOOK SOME OTHER STUFF OUT. SO SOMETHING I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS IT APPROPRIATE NOW FOR ME TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR A VOTE ON ADDING THAT TO THE MAYOR'S BUDGET, KNOWING THAT WE COULD ALWAYS TAKE IT AWAY IF WE DECIDE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ASK OR NOT, YOU KNOW, BUT, WELL, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TALKED. YOU WON'T BE HERE. YEAH. SO IT WON'T BE HERE NEXT WEEK REAL QUICK. CORBIN, WHAT YOU SAID YOU NEED TO SAY AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH. REMEMBER, IT'S COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A MAIN MEETING. SO, YOU KNOW, IF

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THAT HELPS US AS STAFF. MY ASK COUNCILMAN SHELTON IS IF YOU ARE THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET IS BALANCED. IF YOU ARE ASKING TO ESSENTIALLY ADD A HALF A HALF A POSITION TO THE PASSPORT OFFICE FROM WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, IT'D BE ABOUT $25,000 EXPENSE. YOU NEED TO KEEP IT BALANCED WITH THE $25,000 REVENUE. SO IT'S EITHER $25,000 MORE IN THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, OR THAT'S $25,000 CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT BUT IN YOUR PROPOSAL, MY ASK IS KEEP IT BALANCED, RIGHT? RECOGNIZE THERE'S AN ADDED EXPENSE, THERE'S GOT TO BE A CUT OR NOT REVENUE SOMEWHERE TO GO WITH IT. SO IF WE JUST TOOK IT OUT OF CORBIN'S SALARY, I WAS JUST THINKING THE BALANCE RIGHT AWAY. THESE ARE KIND OF TOUGH DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICES. SO WITH THAT, TAKE IT OUT OF MYSELF. MAYBE WHEN WE LOOK AT IS HAVING YOU TELL US WHAT THAT WOULD BE, WHAT THAT WOULD INCREASE THE THE RATE TO. AND THEN THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL COULD TALK ABOUT ON THE NINTH, YOU'LL BE LEADING THAT. I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILOR SHELTON IS FOR THAT. I WOULD BE FOR THAT. AND SO YOU CAN JUST SEE WHAT OTHER. I AM NOT YET CONVINCED. YEAH. NO THAT'S FINE. I THINK TWO FULL TIME OFFICE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR COULD BE ENOUGH. I'M ESTIMATING IT WOULD GO FROM 2.26 TO 2.38. SO WE'LL HEAR HOW THE OTHERS CAN GO ON THAT. I JUST SAID COUNCILMEMBER SHELTON AND I WILL BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING. AS FOR MY MY THING, SINCE I WON'T BE THERE, THE MAIN THING I GAVE YOU WAS THAT I THINK WE COULD DO LATER WITH THE. IF WE FEEL WE NEEDED IT AS SOMETHING. THERE ARE. THAT WAS ONE WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PULLED OUT OF RESERVES. IT WOULD MEAN THE UPPER INCREASE.

BUT I ALSO FEEL IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE AND BEAT DAISIES AHEAD, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE OKAY WITH IT GOING. YEAH, THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD. YEAH. SO AND IT IS GOING TO INCREASE IF WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKELY COULD INCREASE, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND NEXT YEAR REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO THIS YEAR. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THAT REGARD. BUT AGAIN, I LEAVE THAT AS. SOMETHING. WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, SOMETHING WE HAVE THAT WE CAN USE IF NEED BE. A LOT OF THAT WILL COME DOWN TO WHAT YOU HEAR THE NIGHT THAT THE COUNCIL MEETING, IF THERE'S MUCH IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE WOULD KNOW THAT THEY CAN COME TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH. OH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG THING ABOUT WHAT THE NINTH IS FOR. AND I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WONDERING WE WERE GOING TO GET AND HARDLY ANYONE SHOWS, BUT WE JUST WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA. SO. OKAY. NOTED. YEAH.

WELL IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PLUS A COUPLE, I THINK THERE'S THE ONE FEE WAIVER THAT HAS TO BE DONE. THERE'S A COUPLE LAND USES.

THERE'S FEE WAIVER, AND THEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF BUDGET STUFF. AND WE CAN PROBABLY GO OVER THAT MORE IN LEADERSHIP MEETING ON FRIDAY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON, IF YOU'RE HERE FRIDAY, YOU CAN COME TO THE MEETING AS WELL ON FRIDAY. ACTUALLY, I'M LEAVING FRIDAY. WELL I'M NOT I TAKE AWAY YOUR INVITE. MY DAUGHTER'S MOVING TO ARIZONA. OH, IT'S THE BIG MOVE. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ELSE THAT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ON THIS AS WE GET READY FOR THIS? I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE, COUNCILMEMBER. JACOB, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING ON REMOTELY AS WELL. YOU KNOW, PROVIDING SOME GOOD SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ANY OF US. WE'RE ALL KIND OF NEWBIES, THE FOUR OF US HERE. AND I APPRECIATE AGAIN, THE STAFF FOR BEING HERE, INCLUDING OUR COUNCIL STAFF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THOSE THAT HAVE TO BE HERE. BUT I THINK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE. SEE, NO FURTHER WORK TO BE DONE. I

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