[Review of Agenda]
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YOU SAW A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH THE REZONE. THE REASON WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK. SO NOW THAT IT'S ZONED AS C TWO, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO DO AUTO SALES AND SERVICE OF THAT LOCATION. ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP BOTH LOCATIONS OPEN OR ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP BOTH OPEN. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID LAST TIME. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BUT I. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. NEXT IS COMPLETE MACHINE THERE ON 4343 WEST AND 70 AND SOUTH TAYLOR. YEAH. SO THIS ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE. THIS ONE IS COMING TO US BY BY WAY OF CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE. SO THE ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THEM AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE UNTIL THEY COME INTO COMPLIANCE. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS CONDITION IS FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE. THE FENCE THAT HE'S PROPOSING IS VERY BLUE. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS WHAT COLOR IT HAS TO BE, BUT THOSE FENCING STYLES ARE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE. APPROVE IT IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU CAN PROVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. CODE THAT SAYS METAL OR MASONRY FOR THOSE FENCES, DOES THAT MATCH THEIR LOCAL COLOR? IS THAT WHY? OR I THINK IT'S WHAT'S CHEAPEST.
OKAY. YEAH, HE ORIGINALLY WANTED THE CITY TO PAY FOR IT, BUT I TOLD HIM THAT WASN'T A REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD APPROVE. SO HE MIGHT BE PETITIONING THE CITY COUNCIL TO TRY TO PAY FOR HIS FENCE. BUT THAT'S STILL, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PAY FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE.
ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. I TOLD HIM I WANT TO TAKE THAT TO HIM UNLESS HE TOOK THAT OFF HIS REQUEST.
SO ALWAYS TELL HIM TO TAKE IT UP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. AND PHILOSOPHICALLY AND ESTHETICALLY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH METAL FENCING. AND IF YOU LOOK AT 5495 BAILEY PARK ROAD, THERE'S A METAL FENCE THERE. IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. AND THIS LOCATION IS A VERY HIGH VISIBLE LOCATION. SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN NOT LET THEM DO A METAL FENCE? BECAUSE THAT'S OVER TIME. IT'S JUST GOING TO LOOK TERRIBLE. SO IT IS ONE OF THE THE TYPES OF CODE SPECIFICALLY SAYS MUST BE THERE. SO I'M DEFAULT DUNCAN IF THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY NO. NO FENCE ISN'T ALLOWED. BUT THE CODE SAYS METAL OR MASONRY FENCE. YEAH. YEAH. I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE THEY'RE GOING TO CURSE US. YOU KNOW, YOU LET A METAL FENCE THERE AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. SO YEAH, EXACTLY. WHICH GRANDFATHER? TWICE. AT LEAST TWICE EVERY DAY. AND I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM. YEAH. SO IT WAS INTERESTING READING THROUGH THIS. JUST USED TO IT, RIGHT? DRIVING BY AND NEVER REALLY NOTICED THERE WAS OUTDOOR STORAGE OR THAT WAS FINE, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE. OH NO, I'LL NOTICE THE DILAPIDATED METAL FENCE. MUST BE A WATER SIGHT. I WONDER. BUSINESS LICENSE. GOOD FOR TYPICALLY A YEAR. OKAY, SO IT'S. HE HAS BEEN OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THIS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT NO ONE'S EVER BROUGHT IT UP. BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY HAVE RECENTLY, I'D SAY, SCALED UP OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT. AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT MORE PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT NOW. SO THERE'S A RANDOM DRIVE
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BY OR WAS IT BASED ON COMPLAINT? I BELIEVE IT WAS RANDOM DRIVE, I DON'T KNOW. IF YOU HAD 3 OR 4 IN THAT AREA IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS. SO THEY KIND OF TARGET THEM IN AREAS I FEEL LIKE. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. NEXT IS ALUMINA, AN 8399 SOUTH DUNLOP. DUNLOP DRIVE. TAYLOR.YEAH. SO THIS IS A R1 EIGHT ZONE. BUT ABOUT A YEAR AGO THEY CAME THROUGH AND GOT AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY ADD ON TOP OF IT, WHICH BASICALLY WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWED THEM TO RELAX DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IF THEY MAINTAIN THE SAME DENSITY AS THE R1 EIGHT ZONE. SO IT WAS APPROVED FOR UP TO 13 UNITS. THEY'RE SHOWING 12 CURRENTLY, AND THEY MEET ALL THE STANDARDS OF THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY ZONE. SO THEY ALLOWED THAT TO BE NARROWER LOTS DOWN TO 42FT. THEIR FRONT SETBACKS COULD REDUCE DOWN TO TEN FEET.
BUT IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEY HAD TO PROVIDE A 22 BY NINE FOOT PARKING PAD SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THEIR LOT. BUT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A WEIRD SHAPED PARCEL, WEIRD TRIANGLE, IT'S HARD TO DEVELOP OTHERWISE. THAT THAT TRIANGLE ON THE LOWER SIDE OF IT TO THE LEFT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME CELL TOWERS THERE. ARE THEY GOING TO BE IMPACTED? AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO.
NO NO OTHER FACILITIES BEING IMPACTED. SO THERE'S A CANAL, THERE'S A PARK, THERE'S TRACK STATION THAT'S ALL OFF OF THE PROPERTY. SO THEY'D HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WITHOUT IMPINGING ON THAT PROPERTY'S. YEAH. WHAT'S THE ACCESS TO THIS ARE I DON'T KNOW IF THE ACCESS TO THE TOWER IS, BUT IN THE COURSE OF OUR STUDIES OF THE THE ALPHA SURVEYS AND THE PROPERTY AND THE SURVEYS AND EVERYTHING, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY EASEMENTS OR ANYTHING TO PROCESS PROPERTY. BUT. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THESE ARE ALL CITY CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS. THE FIRST ONE IS POWERS AND DUTIES OF LAND USE AUTHORITIES AND APPEAL AUTHORITIES. CLARIFYING WHAT RIGHTS ARE UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE LAW. JUDGES ARE AUTHORITY AND BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE CODE. AS FAR AS THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONCERNED, IT USED TO BE ABLE TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE ONLY THING THAT APPEALED TO IS FAMOUS. WELL, THEN THAT'S CHANGING AS WELL. SO THE FEES, INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE COUNCIL WILL GO TO THE ALJ. YEAH. AND THEN THERE'S THEN THE THE DEFINITION UPDATE, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS, IF YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN FREQUENTLY, THEN YOU CONSIDER A CODE AMENDMENT TO, TO DEAL WITH IT. AND IF SOMEBODY KEEPS TRYING TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU AT LEAST HAVE THE THOUGHT THAT INDICATIVE OF THE NEED FOR A CODE CHANGE. I WAS FINDING THAT I WAS WRITING NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE CODE, LISTING OUT ALL THE LAND USE TITLES, YOU KNOW, FIVE, EIGHT THROUGH 15 AND 17. AND I FIGURED, WHY SHOULDN'T I? WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST WANT A DEFINITION? SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING HERE IS JUST SAYING LAND USE TITLES. AND THEN WE, WE KNOW IT MEANS ALL THOSE TITLES THAT WE'VE ADOPTED AS NIGHT USE REGULATIONS, AND ESPECIALLY WHERE OUR CODE NOW HAS THE FLOATING TERMS, WHERE IF YOU HOVER OVER IT, IT GIVES YOU THE DEFINITION RIGHT THERE WITHOUT THEM TO GO LOOK AT IT. THAT'S ANOTHER CHANGE THAT'S IN THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? KAYLA, YOU WANT TO DO THE SECOND ONE MANUAL FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS JUST REINFORCES THE FACT THAT THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS ARE LAND USE REGULATIONS. AND IT ALSO PUTS IN. THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPMENT. AND IS THERE A CLARIFYING. OF THE STATE LAW AND GIVE US MORE OR LESS OR ALERTING EVERYONE THAT THEY ARE THESE REGULATIONS, RIGHT. YEAH. IT IS COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW AS WELL, WHERE ALL OF A LOT OF CITIES WERE NOT ADOPTING THIS LAND USE REGULATIONS, WHICH THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING, GO TO THE COUNCIL, GET IT APPROVED, JUST AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY PART OF OUR CITY CODE, THERE'S STILL LAND USE REGULATIONS AND STATE LAW.
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LAND USE DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT ACT SAYS WE HAVE TO ADOPT THEM THAT WAY. SO AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, BUT WE JUST NEED TO HAVE OUR CODE SAY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. CURRENTLY. OKAY.LAST CITY CODE, TEXT AMENDMENT, SUBDIVISION RELATED CHANGES INCLUDING STREET DEDICATION, PLATS, BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENTS, CONSOLIDATION OF LOTS, SINGLE PARCEL, NOT IN A SUBDIVISION. THIS JUST BRINGS US UP TO DATE WITH WHAT THE NEW STATE CODE IS. YEAH, A FEW OF THE THINGS ARE THE STATE LEGISLATURE WAS REAL KEEN ON INDICATING WHAT SUBDIVISIONS ARE AND WHEN AND IF. IF YOU'RE NOT ADDING TO THE NUMBER OF LOTS OR PARCELS, IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION. SO IF YOU HAVE ONE PARCEL AND SPLIT IT INTO TWO LOTS WITH A SUBDIVISION, THAT'S A SUBDIVISION. BUT IF YOU'RE PLATTING ONE PARCEL TO BECOME A LOT, SO TO SPEAK, THAT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE YOU WENT FROM 1 TO 1. YOU HAVE IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU'RE INCREASING THAT AS A SUBDIVISION, WHICH KIND OF MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU DIVIDE, HOW CAN YOU DIVIDE SOMETHING AND NOT HAVE MORE, RIGHT. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THEY WERE KEEN ON IN THE LEGISLATURE WAS A PLAT FOR A ROAD OR STREET IS NOT A SUBDIVISION, WHICH I KIND OF GET, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW PROCEDURES FOR DEALING WITH STREET DEDICATION, PLAT VERSUS SUBDIVISION PLAT. SO WE'RE MAKING IT CLEAR IN OUR CODE, THAT SUBDIVISION. I MEAN, A STREET PLAT IS NOT A SUBDIVISION PLAT, BUT WE USE THE SAME PROCEDURES TO DEAL WITH IT. SO THEN WE'RE COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW AND NOT MAKING IT TOO COMPLICATED EITHER. SO IT'S KIND OF A FUNNY NUANCE, BUT AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER NOTION OF SOMETIMES PEOPLE CONSOLIDATE LOTS. AND SO WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT A SUBDIVISION, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD PROVISION IN OUR CODE FOR LARRY AND I WORKED ON A FEW YEARS AGO, WE APPROVED FOR BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENTS. LIKE IF YOU HAVE TWO LOTS AND YOU WANT TO ADJUST THE LINE BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS, THAT'S A A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.
AND. IF YOU GO IN THEORY FROM THREE LOTS TO TWO BY READJUSTING LINES, THAT IS IN A SENSE A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT AS WELL, RIGHT? ANYTIME YOU'RE GOING SAME NUMBER OF LOTS AS STARTING AND ENDING WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF LOTS OR FEWER, THAT'S A LOT OF ADJUSTMENT. SO OUR, THIS CODE AMENDMENT WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S THE SAME SET OF PROCESSES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE SAME NUMBER OF LOTS AFTER THE ONLINE ADJUSTMENT OR A FEWER NUMBER.
SO AGAIN, JUST MAKING PROCESSES CLEAR WITHOUT CREATING A WHOLE NEW SET OF PROCESSES, RIGHT.
AND I THINK THE VERY LAST THING WE'RE DOING THERE IS INTERNAL. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN MY TRAINING, BUT INTERNAL REFERENCES, BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR CODE. AND RATHER THAN CHANGING THEM AND PULLING THEM IN, WHICH IS ONE OPTION, WE'RE AT LEAST LISTING THEM WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S SUBDIVISION RELATED, SAYING, HEY, THAT'S OVER THERE AND THAT'S OVER THERE. SO AT LEAST THERE'S A LIST.
EVERYTHING THAT'S A SUBDIVISION PLAT. A STREET PLAT, A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT OR WHATEVER IS EITHER IN THAT CHAPTER OR OF THE OR TITLE OF THE CODE, OR IT SAYS WHERE YOU CAN FIND IT, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A THE NEXT BEST THING. SOMETIMES IT'S LESS COMPLICATED TO KEEP THINGS WHERE THEY ARE, BUT JUST REFERENCE IT FOR SURE. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO $24 MILLION.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO DUNCAN. OKAY. SO I'LL PASS THESE OUT. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF. SO I COULD HAVE PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN. WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE DEALING WITH TEXT AMENDMENTS. I THOUGHT THE TIMING WAS GOOD, WHERE WE HAVE THREE TEXT MEMOS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF TIMES, YOU HAVE TWO SETS OF RULES. ONE SET OF RULES IS YOUR A LAND USE AUTHORITY. AND YOU LOOK AT CONSIDER AND POTENTIALLY APPROVE
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APPLICATIONS, RIGHT? SO USE EXISTING REGULATIONS OR CITY CODE OR STANDARDS, WHATEVER YOU USE THOSE TO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY APPROVE ACTUAL APPLICATIONS. SO AN EXISTING ONE. THE SECOND SET OF THINGS THAT YOU DO IS YOU CREATE THE LAW, RIGHT? THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET EITHER THROUGH A ZONE CHANGE OR CHANGING. AMENDING THE CITY CODE IS PROBABLY THE MAIN THING THAT YOU DO IN THIS AREA. AND SO THEN AND IN THAT AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DISCRETION, RIGHT, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL STAFF A LOT OF TIMES WILL USUALLY COME UP WITH A DRAFT, BUT THEN YOU CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES, RECOMMEND WHATEVER YOU WANT, AND YOU CAN EVEN INITIATE CHANGES, RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE FOUND TIMES WHERE THERE'S A NEED, ESPECIALLY AS THAT'S, I THINK ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF YOU HAVING THOSE TWO SETS OF ROLES IS SOMETIMES IN YOUR APPLICATION APPROVAL ROLE AND USE AUTHORITY ROLE, YOU RECOGNIZE A NEED WHERE THE CITY CODE COULD BE BETTER OR DOESN'T ADDRESS A TOPIC, OR SHOULD ADDRESS IT DIFFERENTLY. SO THEN YOU CAN PUT THAT OTHER HAT ON AND CONSIDER THE CHANGE IN THE CODE TO MAKE IT WORK BETTER FOR THE FUTURE. RIGHT? SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT HAT ON OF AND OF COURSE YOU DO THAT UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THESE CRITERIA, RIGHT? AS YOU SEE THE STAFF REPORTS, IT'LL ALWAYS GO THROUGH THOSE FEW CRITERIA, LIKE, DOES IT FIT WITH THE GOALS OF THE GENERAL PLAN? AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S A STAFF ANALYSIS, WHICH I THINK IS HELPFUL, RIGHT, FOR YOU TO KIND OF DECIDE, YOU KNOW, IS, DOES IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO CONSIDER? BUT THAT BEING THE CASE, WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS TODAY WAS JUST WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT ROLE OF LOOKING AT TEXT AMENDMENTS, WHAT ARE THE KIND OF THINGS YOU CAN BE THINKING ABOUT, RIGHT? TO COME UP WITH THE BEST DRAFTING. AS YOU'RE DOING THAT. RIGHT. AND WHAT I CAME UP WITH WAS, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THE TOP OF MY LITTLE TRAINING MATERIAL THERE, THE QUESTION I FOUND MYSELF ASKING A LOT AS I WAS PREPARING FOR TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU MOST OFTEN INITIATES THE CITY CODE TEXT, RIGHT? AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S POLICY GENERATED, RIGHT? THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE SAYS, HEY, WE REALLY NEED THIS THING, WHATEVER IT IS. OR THEY TELL THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE COUNCIL ON ITS OWN THINKS OF IT.THERE ARE CERTAIN TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COUNCIL INITIATED. RIGHT. AND WE HAD ONE RECENTLY. THE MOST RECENT CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE, WHICH YOU HAD ONE OF YOUR LAST MEETINGS THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH COUNCIL AND MAYOR INITIATED. RIGHT, LARRY. SO COMPLETELY. YEAH. ELECTED OFFICIAL INITIATED. AND SO BUT BY STATE LAW, THEN THEY STILL HAVE TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU RIGHT BEFORE THEY CAN TAKE ANY FINAL ACTION, WHICH THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE NEXT WEEK. MOST LIKELY THEY'RE CONSIDERING THAT FINAL DRAFT WEEK TODAY. SO THAT'S ONE WAY. AND THEN THE SECOND THING I'VE LISTED THERE IS I CALL THEM FUNCTIONAL ADJUSTMENTS, RIGHT. ESPECIALLY BASED ON EXPERIENCE WITH PAST APPLICATIONS. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER THAT MAYBE I THINK ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I'VE THOUGHT OF IS YOU GET THERE'S MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST THE APPLICATIONS COMING TO YOU. IT MIGHT EVEN BE THOSE COMING TO THE APPEAL AUTHORITY. BUT I THINK YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF APPLICATIONS DEALING WITH FENCES, RIGHT. AND YOU'VE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD BECAUSE OF THE PASSAGE OF TIME, CHANGES IN MATERIALS, CHANGES IN HOW CONTRACTORS BUILD AND MATERIALS THEY USE, MAYBE THOSE THINGS MADE SENSE 20, 30 YEARS AGO, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH NOW. MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T GET THAT RIGHT. OR I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD WHERE PEOPLE GET VARIANCES FOR LARRY THAT THAT WHAT'S THAT? OH YEAH. BURYING POWER LINES. AND MAYBE MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE RECONSIDER SO THAT WE'RE NOT FLOODING THE AUTHORITY WITH A BUNCH OF APPLICATIONS FOR VARIANCES FOR REGARDING BURYING POWER. NOT NOT THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY THE CASE OR NOT, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING A LOT, THEN YOU AT LEAST CONSIDER IT. MAYBE YOU'LL DO ANYTHING RIGHT. BUT ESPECIALLY IF IT SEEMS TO BE REPETITIVE, SEEMS TO BE NOT WORKING OR WHATEVER. AND. AND MAYBE THAT STAFF SOMETIMES KNOWS THAT. A LOT OF TIMES THOUGH, I THINK IT'S YOU BECAUSE SOMETIMES AS STAFF, WE GET USED TO JUST PROCESSING
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APPLICATIONS AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE. SOMETIMES WE MIGHT MISS THE OBVIOUS, RIGHT? YOU'RE JUST SEEING APPLICATIONS ONCE THEY'VE COME THROUGH AND THEY'RE PREPARED, MAYBE IT'S POTENTIALLY MORE OBVIOUS TO YOU THAT, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S A TREND HERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT STATE, THAT SAME THING THAT THE GUY THAT DRAFTED THE DOCUMENT IS NOT THE BEST KIND OF PROOFREAD THE DOCUMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF PHENOMENON. IT'S AN EXTRA SET OF EYES THAT. AND SO THAT'S PART OF YOUR ROLE, RIGHT? THAT YOU CAN INITIATE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADJUSTED. AND THE LAST OF THE THREE MAIN REASONS WHY CITY CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS GET BROUGHT FORTH IS. UTAH CODE COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? THE LEGISLATURE SAYS YOU NEED TO DO THIS, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO DO THAT, RIGHT? IN FACT, AS LARRY WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER, ALL THREE OF THESE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE VERY LARGELY THERE BECAUSE OF THAT. AND WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF, OKAY, WHILE WE'RE ADJUSTING TO STATE LAW, THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT SUBDIVISION IS THIS, BUT NOT THAT, OR THE COUNCIL CAN'T BE AN APPEAL AUTHORITY FOR THIS STUFF. AT THE SAME TIME, WE GO IN AND ADD SOME DEFINITIONS OR WE ADD SOME CLARITY, BUT THAT WAS STILL KIND OF THE PRIMARY REASON, RIGHT? THAT WHY WE'RE DOING IT. SO THAT'S HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL TO, TO REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE PART OF THAT INITIATING PROCESS IF AND WHEN YOU WANT TO BE OR THINK IT'S NEEDED. BUT THEN ONCE THE DRAFTING HAPPENS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAIN GUIDELINES AND GOALS? RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE THERE. AND. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, AND ESPECIALLY AT THE DIRECTION OF CURRENT OF THE PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS, SIMPLIFIED LANGUAGE IS, IS, IS ALWAYS A GOOD GOAL, RIGHT? AS WE'RE DRAFTING. AND, AND AGAIN, SOMETIMES THE DRAFTERS ARE NOT THE BEST PROOFREADERS OFF THE STAFF IS DRAFTING. YOU GUYS CAN HELP HELP US MAYBE MAKE SOMETIMES THINGS MORE CONCISE, FEWER WORDS LESS. WHEN I WAS FIRST MARRIED, MY WIFE ALWAYS ACCUSED ME OF TAKING TOO LONG TO SAY THINGS. AND. AND I USED TO ALWAYS SAY, WELL, WHY SAY SOMETHING IN 20 WORDS WHEN 200. BUT DO JUST FINE, YOU KNOW, AND BUT I REALIZED THAT. YEAH, MAYBE I SHOULD CHANGE THAT DOWN. SURE. AND I THINK OVER TIME I'VE GOTTEN BETTER. BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS LANGUAGE BACK INTO THESE TRENDS, RIGHT? AND IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES WE JUST GET UNNECESSARILY WORDY, MAYBE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT BACKFIRES ON US.SO IF YOU EVER SEE ANYTHING THAT JUST, FRANKLY IS NOT SIMPLIFIED, THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON ISN'T GOOD. UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T NEED TECHNICAL LANGUAGE, RIGHT? JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT. WHICH LEADS ME TO NUMBER TEN AT THE VERY END. HOW IS THE CODE BEST USED? WHICH IS LIKE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE? RIGHT. AND REALLY, FOR ME, PURPOSE OF THE CODE IS NOT JUST FOR US AS CITY OFFICIALS TO USE IT, APPLY IT TO APPLICATIONS, BUT IT'S, IT'S NEEDED FOR THE APPLICANTS, IT'S NEEDED FOR THE PUBLIC. AND, AND IF THE PUBLIC CAN'T GET AT IT, READ IT, UNDERSTAND IT, USE IT, THEN WHAT GOOD IS IT? RIGHT. AND IF WE'RE IF PEOPLE ARE. AND I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CODE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE, AND I BELIEVE PUBLISHING MAYBE SOMEBODY, IF THEY'RE BORED TO DEATH AT TWO IN THE MORNING, CAN GET ON AND LOOK AT OUR ENTIRE CITY CODE. THEY CAN SEE OUR GENERAL PLAN, THEY CAN SEE ALL THE MASTER PLANS, THEY CAN SEE THE STATIONARY PLANS. THEY IF THEY STILL NEED MORE TO READ EVENTUALLY HERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE NEW UPDATED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS ON THERE. PLANNING FOR ANYBODY TO READ THAT REALLY WANTS TO. RIGHT. BUT THE BEAUTY OF IT IS IT'S THERE. IT'S AVAILABLE.
RIGHT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO MAKE IT READABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE. RIGHT. AND, AND PART OF THAT, I THINK, IS THAT NUMBER FIVE IS, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN EXAMPLES IN SOME OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS TONIGHT THAT THE DEFINITIONS, LIKE I SAID, WE CAME UP WITH THAT DEFINITION OF OF LAND USE REGULATIONS. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO INTERESTING ALL THE TIME IN TERMS OF THINGS.
LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT'S GOING TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, THAT LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. LARRY.
AND THE DEFINITION FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE FOUND WE WERE USING THAT WORD A LOT. HERE'S WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT WORD PHRASE, THAT THERE ARE TWO WORDS WHICH I THINK IS HELPFUL, RIGHT. MAKES IT CLEAR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND, AND THEN LIKE I SAY, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CONSOLIDATE SIMILAR PROVISIONS OR DO INTERNAL
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REFERENCES LIKE ANY, LIKE I SAY, YOU NOTICE THAT PROBABLY WITH THE NOT JUST THE SUBDIVISION ONE WHERE WE TRIED TO HAVE A REFERENCE TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS A SUBDIVISION TYPE PROCESS, BUT ALSO IN THE OTHER ONE, WE NOTICED AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH. MAKING IT CLEAR THAT WE ADOPT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS FOR SEWER AND WATER STREETS AND HOW THEY BUILD THEM. AS WE'RE MAKING IT CLEAR THOSE ARE ADOPTED AS LAND USE REGULATIONS, WE NOTICED THAT WE HAD SOME OF THE SAME STUFF IN LIKE THREE DIFFERENT PLACES IN OUR CODE. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE GOT RID OF ONE OF THEM, REDUCED A SECOND ONE AND REFERRED BACK. AND SO PRETTY MUCH FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE NOW. BUT SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS WITH SOME OF THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS SOMETIMES IS WHEN YOU SEE LOTS OF STRIKEOUTS AND WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON AND WHY THAT SECTION DISAPPEAR. SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CONSOLIDATE, GET IT ALL IN ONE PLACE, DO SOME INTERNAL REFERENCES. AND SOMETIMES NUMBER EIGHT, THERE ARE REFERENCES TO THE UTAH CODE, RIGHT. AND A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL SAY, WELL REFER TO A LOT OF NOTICES. TITLE TEN CHAPTER OR YEAH, TITLE TEN, CHAPTER 20 IN THE UTAH CODE. AND WE'LL SAY OR SUCCESSOR PROVISION BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE RENUMBER IT.RIGHT. BUT BUT AT LEAST I THINK IT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES ONE WAY OF SIMPLIFYING IS WE DON'T NEED TO REWRITE EVERYTHING IN STATE CODE. WE CAN JUST SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THIS STUFF IN THE STATE CODE AND HERE'S HOW WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS, THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE STATE CODE IS, BUT THERE'S A PROCESS FOR IT, I THINK MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE SIMPLE. IT ALLOWS SOMEONE TO GO GET MORE INFORMATION. AND BECAUSE USUALLY THEY HAVE THE LINKS WHERE YOU CAN JUST CLICK THAT LINK STATE CODE OTHERWISE. BUT AND THE LAST THING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW AND YOU'VE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN IT, BUT WE HAVE A STYLE GUIDE THAT'S ESPECIALLY DRAFTING ATTORNEYS PAPER MAINLY, BUT, BUT IT'S JUST THE, THE METHODS FOR HOW WE NUMBER THE SECTIONS, WHAT WE CAPITALIZE AND DON'T CAPITALIZE SPELLINGS OF CERTAIN WORDS. SO IT'S AT LEAST FAIRLY CONSISTENT. WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT YOUR ROLE? WHAT YOU'RE DRAFTING IS WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. WE'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO IT. WHAT QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY. NOTHING THAT CAME UP IN THE THREE, SIX SETS OF TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT I THAT TIES INTO. ALL RIGHT. NOW, NEXT TIME WE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL
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