[b. Discussion of Northwest Area Plan for the Area Between U-111, Mountain View Corridor, 6600 South, and 7800 South (Oneleven, Harper Pit, Senna Hills/HCA)]

ART INSTALLATION. OKAY. OUR NEXT. DISCUSSION IS A DISCUSSION OF NORTHWEST DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS FOR THE AREAS BETWEEN MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR AND U111 BETWEEN 6600 SOUTH AND AND TAYLOR NORTHWEST AREA PLAN. YEAH. HELLO. THANK YOU, COUNCIL CHAIR. SORRY, IT'S

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ME AGAIN. CAN WE CALL IT THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT? BECAUSE NORTHWEST QUADRANT. COME ON. WE GOT A SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. YEAH, I WAS VERY TEMPTED TO. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA THAT WAS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT JUST PREVIOUSLY. AND THE REASON WE WANTED TO BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE IN RECENT WEEKS AND MONTHS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROPOSALS IN THIS AREA. AND SO. WELL, I'M NOT NECESSARILY ADVOCATING THAT WE DO AN AREA PLAN FOR THIS. I JUST WANTED TO BRING EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN THIS AREA, AND PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER ON A MAP SO WE CAN KIND OF GET OUR HEADS AROUND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS AREA. SO HERE WE CAN SEE THE THREE PROJECTS IN THE MIDDLE THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. SO 111 THIS IS SORT OF APPROVED. THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT AT 28 ACRES TO IT. HERE IN THE MIDDLE IS HARPER PIT. THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROJECT. AND THEN DOWN HERE IS THE HCA PROPERTY. THEY'RE DOING AN NDA WITH THE HOSPITAL AT THAT. SO THAT'S ALREADY ACTIVE. NOW CAN YOU CAN YOU JUST SHOW THEM WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE AMENDMENT, THE 28 ACRES. CAN YOU SHOW THE COUNCIL WHERE THE I WILL OKAY, BUT BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S PROJECTS ALL AROUND IT THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED. SO MAPLE HILLS, JUST THAT. MAPLE HILLS DEVELOPMENT HAS 477 UNITS TRAINS OVER 3000 WOODSIDE. THIS IS UP IN SALT LAKE COUNTY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ANNEXING INTO WEST JORDAN. IT'S 818 UNITS AND THEN COPPER RIVER HERE 753 UNITS. SO THAT IS SKY RANCH. YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. IT'S NEXT TO A PARK. CAN YOU SEE THAT? YOU GUYS KNOW YOU SEE THAT PARK BEFORE? IT'S A GORGEOUS PARK. SO HERE IS WHAT ALAN BROUGHT UP.

SO WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IS RIGHT HERE. THIS PORTION HERE. SO WHAT THEY ARE ASKING TO ADD IS THIS RIGHT HERE. YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PREVIOUSLY. THEY HAVE SINCE COME BACK AND REDESIGNED THIS TRYING TO ADD MORE ELEMENTS TO BOTH SIDES TO INTEGRATE THE UNITS A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO WE HAVE SOME TOWNHOMES OVER HERE, MORE SINGLE FAMILY OVER HERE THAN WE SAW PREVIOUSLY. AND WE SEE THE INTRODUCTION OF SOME TOWNHOMES AND TWIN HOMES OVER HERE IN THIS AREA TO KIND OF TRY TO MIX UP THOSE UNITS A LITTLE BIT MORE, AS I THINK IT'S THE INTENT OF THE INTEGRATED HOUSING ORDINANCE. SO THE FIRST PHASE OF 111 WAS 53 ACRES.

THERE WAS 313 TOTAL UNITS. OF THAT, 92 WERE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, 22 TOWNHOMES AND OR TWIN HOMES, AND 199 TOWNHOMES. THE ADDITION IS 28.3 ACRES, AND IT'S 163 ADDITIONAL UNITS. SO OVERALL, THIS WOULD TAKE IT TO 476 UNITS. OF THAT, 162 WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, 54 TWIN HOMES AND 260 TOWNHOMES. YOU WILL SEE FROM PHASE ONE, THE DENSITY WAS ABOUT 6.6 UNITS PER ACRE. WHEN WE ADD THE ADDITIONAL 28 ACRES IN THE NEW PROPOSAL, THAT GOES DOWN TO 5.7.

SO THE OVERALL DENSITY OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE BEING REDUCED WITH THIS. MOVING ON TO HARPER PIT, THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING FOR. INTEGRATED HOUSING ZONE, THERE'S 405 DWELLING UNITS ON JUST UNDER 68 ACRES, 203 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, 62 TOWNHOMES, 108 CONDOS, AND THEN 32 MANSION HOMES. SO THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY CONDOS, BUT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE ONE BIG HOUSE, WHICH WOULD HAVE 6 TO 8 UNITS INSIDE OF THEM. NEIGHBORING. YEAH, DEBRIEF THEY USUALLY HAVE.

AND SO. SO THOSE ARE, THEY'RE SHOWING THEIR MANSIONS WITH SIX HOMES. YEAH. THEY'RE TOWNHOUSES.

THEY'RE TOWNHOUSES THAT LOOK LIKE ONE BIG HOUSE. SO THOSE ARE THESE PINK ONES. THEN THE PURPLE WOULD BE THEIR STACKED FLATS, CONDOS NEXT TO THEM OUT OF THE CORRIDOR. THEY HAVE SOME DIFFERENT COTTAGE CONCEPTS HERE FOR HOUSES. SO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON SMALL LOTS. AND THEN THESE ARE MORE TRADITIONAL 5 TO 8000 SQUARE FOOT WARTS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. THIS IS GIVING YOU A CLOSER LOOK. CENTER HILLS. I THINK WE LOOKED AT THIS. THERE'S NOT PARKING IN THIS. WE ALREADY HAVE SIENNA HILLS. I KNOW THERE'S THEY'RE OPEN TO NAMES IF WE HAVE SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE WE DID MENTION THAT SIENNA MOUNTAIN VIEW HILLS IS A BOWMAN'S ARROW.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NAME, BUT WE HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FOR THAT. AND WE ALL KNOW WHERE IT IS. IT'S THE ARROWHEAD. WOULD HE LIVE HIS. THIS DOES HAVE 399 UNITS. OF

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THOSE, 49 WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, 250 TOWNHOMES AND 100 CONDOS. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS 9.44 DOING IT HERE. SO WE LOOK AT REGIONAL ROADWAYS HERE. SO WE CAN SEE AT THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM. THAT'S 70TH AND 74TH. THOSE ARE BOTH COLLECTOR ROADS. ON OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT OR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. BOTH OF THOSE WOULD HAVE BRIDGES WHICH GO OVER THE CORRIDOR. THEN WE HAVE 6400 WEST. THAT'S THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD, WHICH WOULD RUN DOWN TO 78 AND THEN UP THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN COLLECTOR ROADS IN THE AREA 67 AND 64. SO 67 STOPS BEING A COLLECTOR AND MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AT THIS POINT. SO THEY'RE JUST SHOWING THIS AS A LOCAL ROAD HERE. AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC CALMING. AND THEN THIS IS YOUR NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR THROUGH 111, WHICH THEY WERE REQUIRED TO BUILD WITH THEIR FIRST PHASE. THEN YOU GET TO SEE THAT STREET'S ALREADY PAID. IT IS. LOOK AT REGIONAL TRAILS, THE ORANGE ONES YOU SEE ON HERE. THOSE ARE TRAILS THAT ARE PAVED THAT ARE OVER TEN FEET. THE RED ONES ARE SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS THAT ARE 5 TO 8FT. SO YOU CAN SEE. A PRETTY GOOD TRAIL CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT HERE IN 111, EVERY SINGLE DOOR YOU CAN GET TO ON A, ON A SIDEWALK OR A TRAIL. IT'D BE SIMILAR HERE IN THE OTHER TWO. I DIDN'T SHOW ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN HARPER, BUT THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC ROADS, SO THOSE WOULD ALL HAVE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS ON THOSE AS WELL.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AND A FIVE FOOT TRAIL? YOU MENTIONED BOTH SO WELL, IT WAS TRAILS OR SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE TRAILS ARE NOT NEXT TO A ROAD. SO LIKE ESPECIALLY IN 111 WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR ALLEY LOADED, YOU HAVE YOUR TRAIL ON THE INTERIOR. IT'S NOT A SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT'S ON THE SIDE OF SOMETHING. EXACTLY.

NOBODY'S EVER EXPLAINED THAT TO ME. EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS JUST WINKED AND NODDED AND SAID, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING. I MEAN, THEY KIND OF ARE THE SAME THING, BUT. AND THEN AS WE CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE EXISTING TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS IN OTHER PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS WHICH IS CONNECTED TO. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REGIONAL AMENITIZED OPEN SPACES. SO THERE ARE OPEN SPACES THAT ARE NOT SHOWN IN GREEN HERE, BUT THESE ARE WHERE THEY HAVE AMENITIES OF SOME SORT. SO YOU CAN SEE THEY FOR THE MOST PART, DO FLOW TOGETHER FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST OR EAST TO THE WEST, THROUGH THE CENTER OF 111. AND THEN WE HAVE THE MAPLE HILLS PARK, WHICH IS ALREADY EXISTING, AND THEN THE TRIANGLE PARK AND THE CLUBHOUSE POOL AREA IN SEVEN HILLS. LET ME SEE NOW, WHAT YOU MEAN IS. YEAH. SO JUST SOME OVERVIEWS HERE. I PUT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY AND TOGETHER. THIS IS EXCLUDING THE SKY RANCH ANNEXATION. IF ALL OF THE PROJECTS, THE THREE THAT WERE PROPOSED, WERE APPROVED AS IS, THAT WOULD BE JUST OVER 6300 DWELLING UNITS AND A 5.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OVER THOSE 1100 ACRES. WE INCLUDE THAT IN AN AREA. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS ACTUALLY GOES UP TO ABOUT 7150. THE DWELLING ACRE GOES DOWN SLIGHTLY TO 5.6 OVER ABOUT 1275 ACRES. AND THEN THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE KIND OF COMING THROUGH APPROVALS. THEY MAKE UP JUST UNDER JUST OVER 190 ACRES, 1280 PROPOSED UNITS FOR AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 6.68. SO THEY'RE MORE DENSE THAN THE EXISTING PROJECTS THE PREVIOUS. YEAH.

GOOD. I WANT THE COUNCIL TO FOCUS ON THIS IS A LOT OF INTENSE USE OUT ON THAT WEBSITE.

HILLS IS ALREADY BUILT OUT, RIGHT? YES. IS WHAT, A THIRD OF THE WAY BUILT OUT MAYBE AT THIS POINT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE HALF. SO SOME OF THESE ARE ALREADY IN. WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, RIGHT. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT BITING THIS ALL AT ONE TIME. RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ENTITLE 7000 MORE UNITS. YEAH. RIGHT. SO A LOT OF THIS IS IN BEING BUILT OR BUILT ON MAPLE HILLS HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. YES. AND IT'S BEEN FINISHED FOR A WHILE. BUT IT'S STILL NICE TO SEE IT ALL TOGETHER. YEAH, WE WANTED TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE APPLICATIONS HAVE ALREADY NYC

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IN SENATE, HILLS AND NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. YOU'LL TALK INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT HARPER PIT AND 111 PHASE TWO ON THOSE. BUT WHAT LEADERSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICE AND COUNCIL STAFF FELT IS THAT IF THERE WAS THIS BROAD OVERVIEW DISCUSSION, YOU COULD SEE HOW ALL THE PIECES FIT TOGETHER INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT EACH PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY, HOW DO THEY ALL HOW DO THEY ALL INTERTWINE AND FIT? SO THAT WAS THE GOAL OF TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH THIS.

AND WE ARE LEADERSHIP DOES WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL MAYBE GO LOOK AT IT AS A TOUR.

SO WE'LL BE ON A BUS. BUT I WALKED PAST IT. WE'RE WORKING ON SETTING SOMETHING UP, PROBABLY IN A WEEK FROM NOW, SOMETIME NEXT WEEK BEFORE WE HAVE THE MEETING ON THE 13TH.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY AND HOW ALL THESE PIECES WILL FIT TOGETHER AS YOU DISCUSS THESE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ADD THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT DOES, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, MAPLE HILLS? WHAT DOES FIVE AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE FEEL LIKE? RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING, OKAY, HOW DOES THAT FEEL? WELL, WE'VE GOT A PRODUCT RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN WALK AROUND IN MAPLE HILLS. DO YOU INCLUDE THE TERRACE HILLS IN WITH MAPLE HILLS? THE TOWNHOMES, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY MAPLE HILLS, I GUESS, TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT ACTUALLY HAD MAPLE HILLS IN THE PLAT. SO I'M NOT SURE. IF YOU SAY MAPLE HILLS AT 5.49, WE GO MAPLE MAPLES THERE, I KNOW THAT, YEAH, MAYBE MAPLES. THERE'S A LOT MORE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE MAPLE. YEAH. MAPLE HILLS IS LIKE R1 12 CORRECT? YEAH. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S RIDICULOUS. IT'S HUGE HERE. SO IT WAS ACTUALLY. SO YEAH, THE MAPLES IS IS MUCH BIGGER. AND THEN JUST ONE LAST KIND OF ANALYSIS THAT WE DID THAT WAS FUN JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT. SO IF WE INCLUDE THE ANNEXATION AREA, 7100 NEW HOUSEHOLDS, IF WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT, IT'S 63 NEW HOUSEHOLDS OR HOUSEHOLDS IN THIS AREA. SO WE LOOK AT WHAT THAT POPULATION WOULD BE FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. IF WE LOOK AT 2.8 PEOPLE PER UNIT, THE SMALLER ONE, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER 18,000. FOR THE 7000 IT'S ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE. SO JUST JUST FOR CONTEXT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BLUFFDALE TO HIGHLAND, THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING QUADRANT, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY. YES. CORRECT. AND THEN IN FUTURE BUDGETS THAT WILL DEAL WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE IMPACT FEES, IMPACT FEES AND ROADS AND PLOWING AND AFFECTS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. THIS IS WHERE NEW GROWTH AND TAX INCREASES DIFFERENTIATE. THIS IS NEW GROWTH. SO THAT WAS JUST FOR INFORMATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR. YEAH. ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO PUT AMENITIES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE WITHOUT HAVING PEOPLE HAVING TO GET IN THE CAR TO DO EVERYTHING? OR IS IT JUST HOUSING ONLY? NO, THAT'S THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. SO WE HAVE LET ME GO. SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS 111. THIS WHOLE AREA IS SHOWN AS BEING FUTURE COMMERCIAL, AS IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL PODS WHICH ARE PLANNED WITHIN HERE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE HOSPITAL COMES IN DOWN HERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE ROOM FOR OFFICES AND RETAIL. SO THEY HAVE RETAIL DOWN HERE. THEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL PADS HERE, HERE. LET ME SHOW TAYLOR. CAN YOU SHOW LIKE SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU MAY BE AWARE OF OTHER OTHER THINGS? PEOPLE I KNOW THERE'S A CHURCH HERE THAT I CAN SEE. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY A CHURCH RIGHT THERE. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TEMPLE OVER HERE AND THERE'S A CHURCH AND THERE WILL BE A CHURCH IN OAK OR WEST, BUT YOU CAN'T QUITE SEE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS A POTENTIAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE IN TERRAIN SCHOOL HERE. SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SKYBRIDGE OR SOMETHING GOING OVER 111 SOMETHING POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY. EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE SIGNALIZED. ACTUALLY, WE DO HAVE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS HERE AND HERE AS WELL. THERE WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO DRAW THOSE LINES. BUT YEAH, BUT SHORT ANSWER NO GROCERY STORE. HERE'S GROCERY STORE WILL SOMEDAY BE ON 111 AND 78. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST APPROVED THE SITE PLAN, A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR GROCERY STORE AT 78 AND 111. YES, THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS

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SOMETHING DEAD CENTER, RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE MOST DENSE AREA THERE, TO JUST MAKE IT MORE OF A, OF A LIVABLE SPACE INSTEAD OF JUST A PLACE TO GO HOME AND SLEEP. WHICH PARTS, I GUESS. YEAH, THERE'S PARKS AND YOU CAN WATCH TV AND YOU CAN WATCH TV. SO YOU NEED SOMETHING LIKE A GROCERY STORE. IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND? YEAH, I THINK A GROCERY STORE WOULD BE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE. CONTAINER PARK. WHERE'D HE GO? BUT THE GROCERY STORE ON THE 111 AND 78 CORNER DOWN ON THE YOU GOT THE CAR AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SMITH'S. SMITH'S IS RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, BUT YOU'RE NOT A GROCERY STORE IS NOT GOING TO GO BUILD THAT CLOSE TO TWO OTHER GROCERY STORES. YEAH, YEAH. YOU MIGHT EVEN LIKE A CONVENIENCE STORE. SMITH'S AND. THIS SITE RIGHT THERE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER CORNER SPOT THAT YOU'RE POINTING AT, THAT 1/70. BUT WHERE'S KAITLYN'S COSTCO? THAT'S FARTHER WEST.

THAT'S REALLY FAR WEST. IT'S GOING TO BE UP ON TOP OF. COSTCO'S. IT'S SOUTH OF THEM.

IT WOULD BE SOUTH. YEAH. THE COVID-19 COSTCO. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE WE HADN'T REALIZED THIS SCALE. IT'S INFORMATIONAL. RIGHT? SO AS THESE SPECIFIC PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD, THE COUNCIL CAN COME BACK TO THIS. I DO ONE THING I ACTUALLY DIDN'T PUT IN HERE, BUT I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE UTILITIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT. AND WHEN 111 PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED, THEY HAD TO GET ALL OF THEIR STORMWATER AND SEWER AND EVERYTHING HAS TO CROSS OVER HERE TO GET DOWN TO THE PLANT. RIGHT. AND THERE'S VERY LIMITED PLACES WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY CROSS. SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS. AND WE HAVE LINES GOING THROUGH HERE. SO THOSE LINES ARE IN PLACE. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO. WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE AS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS TOGETHER. THAT'S KIND OF ALREADY BEEN BAKED IN. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THE ROAD NETWORKS DO LINE UP AND THE UTILITY NETWORKS IN A LOT OF CASES ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO SERVICE ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS TOGETHER BECAUSE NONE OF THEM CAN STAND ON THEIR OWN.

THEY HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER SO WELL. THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE PROJECTS AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT APPROVALS. THE ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO WORK TOGETHER, ACTUALLY. THIS MAP WAS PROVIDED BY THE THREE ENGINEERS THAT GOT TOGETHER TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND SEND IT OVER TO US, WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE ONE I TRIED TO COBBLE TOGETHER USING PHOTOSHOP. SO I APPRECIATE THE ENGINEERS. ENGINEERS. YEAH, IT'LL BE COOL TO BE TO SEE THIS ZOOMED OUT A LITTLE BIT AND TO KIND OF OUTLINE THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S 18000 PEOPLE JUST TO KIND OF SEE IT ALL BECAUSE THERE ISN'T REALLY A SPOT HERE WHERE I CAN SEE TERRAIN. AND OSCAR WEST, DID YOU HAVE OVER WEST ON THERE? DID YOU INCLUDE OVER WEST? NO, NO, YOU SHOULD HAVE. BECAUSE THAT'S TWO THIRDS BUILT OUT NOW TO PROBABLY. YEAH. THAT'S AN OLD MAP ON THE WEST SIDE OF 111 FROM THE EXISTING MAPLES IS.

GROWING LIKE CRAZY TO. BUT YOU KNOW, TERRAIN OVER WEST THE MAPLES FROM 78 NORTH. YEAH. 78 NORTH. AND THEN FROM WHAT MAYBE 56 WEST OR 1956, BUT MAYBE THE POWER CORRIDOR. POWER CORRIDOR WEST BECAUSE YOU INCLUDE YOU INCLUDE WEST, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER WHAT, 800 UNITS OR 700 UNITS IN THERE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER 1000 PEOPLE OR SORRY, 1600 PEOPLE. YEAH. TERRAIN IS THE SANDBOX. YEAH. YEAH. SO I MEAN, THAT WOULD JUST BE IT WOULD JUST BE KIND OF COOL TO SEE THAT AS A THING. HANG ON ONE SECOND. OH, SO ALAN GETS THE BIG BUCKS. YEAH. SO ONE THING WE NEED TO START DOING IS MAKING SURE AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, BUT WE NEED TO CONTINUE MAKING SURE UDOT IS READY TO BUILD THOSE BRIDGES. BECAUSE BEFORE WE KNOW IT, THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE UP TO THE BRIDGE ON EITHER SIDE. AND UDOT'S OBLIGATION IS TO CONSTRUCT THE BRIDGE. ONCE THE ROADWAYS ARE BUILT UP TO THE BRIDGE SITE. IT ALREADY IS, AND IT'S ONE OF THE FOUR, RIGHT? WELL, THE EAST SIDE'S ON BOTH TOP AND BOTTOM AND ON 70TH

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ISN'T. AND THE ROAD GOES KIND OF UP THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE APPROACH LIKE 74, RIGHT. 74 HAS THE APPROACH ALL THE WAY. YEAH. AND SO WE NEED WE NEED TO KEEP PRESSURING UDOT TO SAY, HEY KEEP THIS ON YOUR RADAR, KEEP THIS ON YOUR, GET THIS ON YOUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT 15 YEARS OUT. NO, THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS COMING FAST IN THIS AREA. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S ONE OF OUR TASKS. YEAH. AND WE'LL HAVE THEM ENGINEER THESE BRIDGES TO HOLD CARS TO. OH THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S REALLY GOOD. STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THE FIRST TRY. ON THE FIRST TRY, FIRST TRY. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PUT THE BRIDGE IN, THEN YOU JUST HAVE THE TWO APPROACHES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KID ON A MOTORCYCLE. EVEL KNIEVEL. YEAH. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO ADVANCE PAST YOUR CHARTS. THAT ONE, WOULD YOU DRAW A LINE AROUND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR THAT I CAN'T? SO FROM WHAT I HEARD, THOUGH, IT'D BE ESSENTIALLY FROM THE AIR OVER FROM HERE UP. YEAH. FROM THE SMITHS ON THE CORNER.

WELL, NOT QUITE ACTUALLY. RIGHT FROM THE FURNITURE WAREHOUSE OR FURNITURE ROW. OKAY. DON'T GET MAD AT ME FOR THAT POWER LINE. YEAH. THE POWER LINES, FURNITURE ROAD. YEAH, YEAH.

GOSH, INCLUDE THE INCLUDE SIENNA HILLS AND THE IVORIES THERE AND JESSICA'S HOUSE AND THE SMITHS. AND HE'S GOT ANOTHER COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE. HANGING IT WHERE WE ARE. I HEAR WE ARE GETTING WE ARE ORDERING SOME WEST JORDAN BRANDED SHOEHORNS JUST SO WE CAN GET THEM ALL IN THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF TAYLOR MENTIONED IT. I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT THE THE PORTION UP AT THE TOP THAT IS THE ANNEX TO BE ANNEXED AREA THAT IS ALL ENTITLED BY SALT LAKE COUNTY SO FAR, RIGHT? RIGHT. CORRECT. YEAH. MOST OF THEM ARE BUILT UP THERE, 800 AND WHATEVER THEY'RE BUILT LIKE 745 OR ISSUED 745 BUILDING PERMITS. SO YEAH, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE BUILT OUT AND THEY PROBABLY GOT A THIRD AND A HALF DONE, PROBABLY. AND SO, CHAIR, IF I MAY, YES, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAYBE NEXT WEEK I'LL WORK WITH EACH OF YOU, BUT MAYBE MEET AT THE PARK AND JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY HERE OF THE AREA SO THAT YOU'RE PREPARED ON THE 13TH WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE 111, PHASE TWO AND THE HARPER PIT PROPOSALS FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. AND THEN WE CAN POSSIBLY LOOK AT OTHER AREAS LIKE THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OR OTHER PARCELS THAT SOME THAT LEADERSHIP AND THE STAFF ARE WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER. ONCE WE GET THE FINAL TOUCHES PUT TOGETHER. GREAT.

WELL, I MOVED OUT THERE. IT WAS ALL FIELDS EXCEPT FOR MY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS THE ONLY THING OUT THERE. SO THERE'S A QUESTION I HEARD. THIS COUNCIL WANTS STAFF TO PURSUE A UNIFIED NORTHWEST AREA PLAN OR CONTINUE REVIEWING THESE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS. WELL, ACTUALLY, I THINK JUST REVIEW THEM A SEPARATE APPLICATION. THIS WAS REALLY KIND OF AN OVERVIEW TO SEE HOW THEY ALL FIT TOGETHER. THEY ALREADY HAVE APPLICATIONS IN PROCESS. SO IT'LL BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'LL DISCUSS WITH THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. THIS IS THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED PROPOSALS. THIS IS JUST HOW DO THEY HOW DO THEY INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I'LL MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE ACTUAL AREA PLAN FOR SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THE TRAIN TRACKS ARE ALL COMING OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.

THEY ARE. I KNOW THE BRIDGE OVER U 111 IS OUT FOR A WHILE, BUT I THINK THERE'S I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STILL TRAIN TRACKS IN THERE. NO, THEY'VE REMOVED THEM ALL. OKAY. SO THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW TRAINS WILL NOT BE. I WOULD HOPE. STILL THEY'RE STILL THERE ON THE SYCAMORE SIDE BEHIND THE SYCAMORES. IT'S A PROCESS. THEY'VE GOT TO REMOVE THEM AND DO SOME REMEDIATION. AND SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING IS. 15 YEARS AGO WE TOOK FAMILY PICTURES ON THE THROUGH. I GOT A REALLY COOL QUESTION. IT HAPPENS FASTER HERE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING. YEAH CHAIR, IF I MAY. TAYLOR, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. YOU SAID THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING PERMITS IN THE COUNTY AREA HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR THIS AREA. WHAT ABOUT THE AREA JUST NORTH OF THAT? BECAUSE THIS PARCEL WILL BE ANNEXED INTO WEST JORDAN AS WELL. DO YOU. THAT'S ENTITLED.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT PARCEL IS ALSO EXCUSE ME BEEN ENTITLED BUT THEY HAVEN'T STARTED ANY CONSTRUCTION YET. DO YOU KNOW I'LL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY AGAIN. THE COUNTY PLANNING WHO I CONTACTED THE THE ONES AT SKY RANCH ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HE WAS AWARE

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OF. OKAY, SO JUST WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THEY'RE MOSTLY BUILDING PERMITS PULLED, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SKY RANCH PIECE ONLY? YES. THERE'S ALSO THE TO THE WEST OF 111 THERE THAT WE'RE ANALYZING IT TO MARY'S HOUSE. RIGHT. THAT'S PART OF SKY REFUGE ON THE OTHER SIDE. DO YOU WANT 11? THAT'S CALLED SKY RANCH TWO. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE BOTH SKY RANCH. OKAY. SO WE ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE OKAY WITH THIS? WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION, NOT A VOTE. CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S JUST IT'S MORE INFORMATIONAL. NOT EVEN REALLY NO DIRECTION. YOU'LL TALK ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. THERE ARE ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR OR FROM STAFF. NOPE.

[c. Continued Discussion and Staff-Led Planning Efforts for the Southwest Quadrant (SWQ) Regarding Residential Density and Development]

THANKS. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS A CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF STAFF PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT REGARDING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND SCOTT AND AND. TAYLOR. YEAH, HE WILL BE COMING BACK. OKAY. AT LEAST I THINK SO. YEAH. THERE HE IS. SO JUST IN TIME. LET ME ACTUALLY THIS IS A IT'S A GREAT SEGUE. WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE? WHAT MAKES SOUTHWEST QUADRANT IN THIS AREA PLAN DIFFERENT? THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE YOU GO. PAUL. YEAH. JOIN US. THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT IS ALL DESIGNATED ON OUR GENERAL PLAN AS ONE BIG AREA. RIGHT. FURTHERMORE, THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED ONE ZONING TOOL, THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT ZONE, TO DEAL WITH THE WHOLE THING.

WHICH IS GREAT IF YOU READ THE THE DETAILS OF THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT ZONE, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE USE TABLE, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S A HUGE LAUNDRY LIST OF WHAT YOU WHAT IS PERMITTED OR CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED IN THAT PART OF THE CITY. SO. I'LL GO BACK. SO BECAUSE IT'S SO FLEXIBLE AND BECAUSE THIS, THIS ZONING TOOL ENCOMPASSES NEARLY 1000 ACRES, IT'S BEEN CHALLENGING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND FOR STAFF TO, TO REALLY GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION AS TO WHAT APPLICATIONS, WHAT TYPE OF APPLICATIONS THE COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT. AND SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE ALL MET WITH YOU ONE ON ONE. AND WE, WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING ROUGHLY 80/20 MIX RATIO OF, OF INDUSTRIAL THERE WE GO OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO, TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S WHERE THE 80/20 COMES FROM. ONE THING, ANOTHER THING THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL AT OUR LAST MEETING IS THAT THIS RATIO SHOULD INCLUDE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, THE WASATCH ELECTRIC RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT WE HOPE TO GET FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT ARE THESE THREE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE THE VISION. WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, COUNCIL, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE HEARD YOU EXPRESS IN OUR MEETINGS ABOUT THE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS AND COLLECTIVELY AS A GROUP IN THE PAST, WE'RE GOING TO CONFIRM THE GENERAL LOCATIONS WHERE THIS RESIDENTIAL, THIS, THIS 20% SHOULD BE LOCATED BASED ON OUR CODE AND BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED. AND THEN BASED ON THE DIRECTION IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, MIXED USE ZONING TOOL IN CODIFIED IN ORDINANCES, THE DENSITY RANGES FOR EACH OF THESE LITTLE SUB PODS. SO TAYLOR'S WORKED HARD WITH OUR ENGINEERS TO COME UP WITH SOME GRAPHICS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE CLEAR AND PROVIDE SOME, SOME GOOD POINTS OF DISCUSSION. THE ROAD NETWORK, THIS IS OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. IT SHOWS THE LOCATION AND THE SIZE OF THE ROADS. SO AGAIN, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF GOOD FRAMEWORK FOR FUTURE PODS AND LAND USES RIGHT HERE. THIS IS 90 SOUTH. THIS IS U111 STOKESLEY. THE GENERAL ALIGNMENT OF STOKESLEY DRIVE.

YOU CAN NOTICE AS 90TH GOES FURTHER WEST, OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN

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CONTEMPLATES PULLING IT SOUTH AND ACTUALLY BENDING AND ALIGNING WITH THIS EXISTING SERVICE ROAD ON KENNECOTT PROPERTY. BUT YOU CAN ALSO NOTE YOU ALSO NOTICE THAT AS IT GOES FURTHER WEST, IT GOES FROM AN ARTERIAL TO A COLLECTOR ROAD. AND JUMP IN HERE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD. SO HERE'S THE APPROXIMATE PLACEMENT. AGAIN BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL, THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS. YEAH. AND I'LL SAY FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL, BUT ALSO OUR READING OF THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT ORDINANCE, WHICH RESIDENTIAL IS A SECONDARY USE AND IT'S A BUFFER USE. AND SO I THINK A BUFFER USE IS WHERE WE'RE BUFFERING LIKE TO LIKE. AND SO WE LOOK AT WHERE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. BUT UP NEXT TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE WE PROPOSE TO HAVE THOSE RESIDENTIAL, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL PODS ADJACENT TO THOSE. SO USE THAT TO BUFFER EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, EXISTING APPROVED DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN MOVE TOWARDS A MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WE MOVE DEEPER INTO THE PROJECT. ALSO UNIQUE TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT ZONE ARE THESE NODES, THESE THESE MIXED USE NODES WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD BE PLACED AT KEY INTERSECTIONS. SO YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE THAT SPRINKLED THROUGH SOME OF THESE MAPS. YEAH. SO, SO HAVING IDENTIFIED THOSE NODES, THOSE NODES ARE PRIMARILY WHERE WE HAVE MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT INTERSECT WITH EACH OTHER. SO COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS, COLLECTORS AND FREEWAYS, OR EVEN IN SOME CASES, COLLECTORS AND COLLECTORS. THEN WE DECIDED WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE NODES TO COME UP WITH RESIDENTIAL PODS AROUND THEM AND LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY AND VERY HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHERE THOSE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE TRIED TO DO HERE. SO IF WE LOOK AT OUR NOTES, WE HAVE THREE NODES UP HERE. WE SAID THESE WOULD BE AREAS WHERE WE LOOK AT VERY HIGH INTENSE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THERE COULD BE UP TO 40 UNITS PER ACRE. AND THIS IS CODE REFERENCE RIGHT HERE WHERE WE ALLOW THAT KIND OF WHERE IT SAYS THOSE SHOULD BE SITED.

THEN WE LOOK AT THESE AREAS HERE. ARE THEY MEDIUM OR HIGH DENSITY PRIMARILY. SO RIGHT HERE WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL BUFFERING. HERE WE HAVE A COLLECTOR ROAD BUFFERING THAT WILL THAT SHOULD BE TOWARDS THE LOWER END. SO THAT'S OUR MEDIUM DENSITY HERE. A B. WE'RE NEXT TO A VERY HIGH DENSITY POD B AND C NEXT TO A VERY HIGH DENSITY POD IN NODE ONE. BUT ALSO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AS WE MOVE FURTHER WE'RE LOOKING AT HIGH DENSITY FOR BOTH OF THOSE. AS WE TRANSITION BACK TOWARDS DRY CREEK HIGHLAND, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THIS NODE. WANT TO GO BACK DOWN TOWARDS SOME MEDIUM DENSITY HERE. E LARGELY HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE WASATCH ELECTRIC MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT CAME IN AT ABOUT 20 ACRE. SO THAT WOULD PUT IN A HIGH DENSITY POD F KIND OF SIMILARLY, NEXT TO THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, WE'RE SAYING THAT MAKES SENSE. HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN WHERE WE COME HERE FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, WE MOVE BACK INTO MEDIUM DENSITY. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY WE WE STAFF DREW THIS UP, MEDIUM DENSITY, WHICH IS THE LOWEST DENSITY DESIGNATION IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT WHERE WE'RE BUFFERING THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED OR IN SOME CASES, ALREADY BUILT IN NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. AS WE MOVE INTERIOR, WE SEE WE'RE EXPECTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO BE MORE INTENSE. WE HAVE OUR BUFFERING BEING THE MOST INTENSE DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAPPENING IN THOSE NODES. AS YOU CAN SEE LARGER ROADWAYS COMING IN THERE. THAT MIGHT BE WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A MIXED USE CENTER. SO WHAT WHAT THIS MAP IS NOT, IT IS NOT A CHANGE TO OUR GENERAL PLAN. IT IS NOT A REZONING OF PROPERTY OR ENTITLING OF UNITS. IT'S MEANT TO BE A, A GUIDE TO HELP STAFF TO HELP THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY MORE ACCURATELY HONE IN ON WHAT THE COUNCIL IS WANTING TO SEE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IF CERTAIN THINGS LIKE IF THERE WAS A BIG USER THAT CAME IN THAT DISPLACED, SOME OF THIS, COULD THE DEVELOPER, COULD THE LANDOWNER OR THE OR THE DEVELOPER COME IN AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, BASED ON THE CHANGE IN THE MARKET, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO, TO SHIFT THIS ELSEWHERE? AND THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO, TO THE

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COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY, TO GO THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. SO IT'S A GUIDE. WE'RE HOPING THAT IF IF WE ARE ACCURATELY FRAMING WHAT THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOT FROM THE COUNCIL, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THIS SMALL AREA PLAN, HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS SO THAT WHEN DEVELOPERS COME THROUGH THE DOOR, WE SAY, OKAY, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THIS ZONE. I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S A HUGE LIST, BUT INSTEAD OF JUST KIND OF GUESSING WHAT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS, WE CAN SAY, HEY, THEY ADOPTED THIS AS A GUIDE. YOU KNOW, IT AS YOU COME IN AND DEVELOP DIFFERENT PORTIONS LIKE THIS, LIKE GARDENER. THERE, THERE'S A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE ON BOARD WITH YOUR PROPOSAL. IF YOU'RE FALLING WITHIN THESE, THESE DENSITY RANGES AND, AND PLACEMENT OF USES. SO YEAH. AND SORRY. BUT LOOKING AT THE, THE USES IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, IF WE TAKE OUT JUST THE RESIDENTIAL USES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE USES FROM EVERY OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONE, EVERY OTHER OFFICE ZONE, EVERY OTHER BUSINESS RESEARCH PARK ZONE. SO THE AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE CAN HAVE IN HERE IS WIDE RANGING. BASICALLY, ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN DO HERE. SO I THINK SOMETIMES WE GET IN THE MINDSET OF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSES OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 200 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT SQUARE RECTANGULAR BUILDINGS. AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE, AS I MENTIONED, THIS ISN'T A REZONE. THIS ISN'T CHANGING LAND USE. THERE'S STILL AN APPLICANT STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN AND DO A REZONING APPLICATION, WHICH REQUIRES A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AGREEMENT. IF THEY WANT FLEXIBILITY, THEY SAY, WE'VE GOT THIS GREAT CAMPUS USE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO HAVE OFFICES, IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME RESTAURANTS REALLY THAT RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO MAKE IT WORK. AND YES, IT'S IN YOUR PURPLE SECTION. YOU AS A COUNCIL HAVE ALL THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE WORLD TO SAY, YES, THIS IS PRIMARILY AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL MAKES SENSE HERE. IT MEETS THE OTHER GOALS AND YOU'RE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT. THIS IS IN MY, MY VIEW, MAPPING WHERE WE EXPECT IT TO BE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND WHERE PRIMARILY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

BUT EACH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IS GOING TO HAVE TO STAND ON ITS OWN MERITS AND COME TO YOU AS A BODY AND VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT VESTING ANYTHING. THERE'S NO ENTITLEMENT TO THIS.

CAN YOU DANCE TO. THAT? I THINK THERE'S TWO MORE. RIGHT? RIGHT HERE. NO. GO BACK. DO YOU WANT TO SEE A MAP? YEAH, THIS IS A MAP. OKAY. KEEP GOING BACK. YEAH THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I HOPE THAT I REMEMBER EVERYTHING THAT'S IN MY HEAD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE OF IS IN THESE NODES IS GOING TO BE MOST LIKELY COMMERCIAL WITH THE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AS PLANNED OUT PER THE PER THE TMP.

SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL INHERENTLY IN AND OF ITSELF. WE ALSO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE LANDOWNERS RIGHT HERE HAS PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANY RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ABOUT THIS MAP, OBVIOUSLY, THAT IT'S MORE OF, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL. THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS KIND OF DREW OUT. WHAT, YOU KNOW, HAS THE RATIOS THAT YOU GUYS AS A WHOLE, ON AVERAGE, COMMUNICATED TO US SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START GETTING SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE CLOSER TO DEVELOPING, GOING WHILE STILL KEEPING THE SAME FRAMEWORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY OUTLINED FOR US AS OTHER LAND OR OTHER LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS CONTINUE TO TRY TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE CAN'T DO THIS HERE, BUT WE CAN DO IT OVER HERE. CAN WE MOVE THIS HERE? JUST LIKE SCOTT SAID, THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THE SOUTH QUADRANT DOES ALLOW. SO WITH THAT SAID, EAST OF 111, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO TRY TO GET THIS BEFORE YOU AS A COUNCIL, TO TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF A GREEN LIGHT. THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS CLOSER TO BEING DEVELOPED, VERY CLOSE PLANS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT. SO OVERALL YOU SAID, YEAH, THAT'S WE'RE GOOD. THEN THEY CAN START SUBMITTING PLANS. THERE'S ALSO SOME AREAS I THINK RIGHT AROUND IN HERE FROM AN INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT THAT ARE READY TO BE SUBMITTED AS WELL.

NOW, THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY REALLY BASICALLY EVERYTHING WEST OF 111 IS A LITTLE BIT ASIDE FROM THAT ONE AREA OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR INDUSTRIAL IS A LITTLE BIT UNKNOWN STILL, AS FAR AS WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT, THERE'S SOME TOPOGRAPHICAL ISSUES IN HERE THAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING FROM AN ECONOMIC

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DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, AN INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LANDOWNERS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE WHAT THAT SHOWS. BUT THIS REFLECTS, AGAIN, WHAT THE COUNCIL EXPRESSED TO US, AT LEAST AS MUCH AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAP IT OUT ACCORDING TO THE TMP AND ORDINANCES GOVERNING OR THE CODES GOVERNING THE DENSITY OF THESE PODS. AND THIS WILL ALLOW, IF YOU GUYS ARE GENERALLY OKAY WITH THIS, THIS WILL ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS EAST OF 111 TO START SUBMITTING PLANS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO APPROVE, BUT ALSO ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS AND LANDOWNERS WEST, IF YOU WANT. 11 TO CONTINUE TO REFINE ACCORDING TO FLEXIBILITY THAT THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT ALLOWS TOPOGRAPHY. EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO HOW COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROVE THAT. AREAS A AND B IS THAT ALSO C AND D IS THAT A, B, C, D IS THAT ALL AREAS WHERE THE LANDOWNER SAID THEY DON'T WANT RESIDENTIAL? YES. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE CLEAR LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL. THIS IS ALSO WHAT THE ORDINANCE STATES WHERE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD GO. IT SHOULD BUFFER. SO WE DO THIS EXERCISE ALL THE TIME WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USE MAPS, RIGHT? THIS IS HOW WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND PROPERTY. WE SOMETIMES AGREE WITH IT BUT SOMETIMES DON'T. AND THEY CAN COME TO YOU. THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE STATES SHOULD THE LANDOWNER NORTH OF 90TH. YEAH, I AGREE THAT'S PART OF THE DRY CREEK. ARE THEY ASKING FOR A BUFFER FOR US TO BUILD A BUFFER INTO THE LAND? YEAH. NO, THE ORDINANCE THE ORDINANCE DOES.

BUT THEY HAVE THEY'VE SUBMITTED SOME MAPS. I ALLEN HAS GOTTEN THOSE. SO IF THE COUNCIL IF THEY WANT TO SEE THEM TONIGHT OR NOT. BUT THEY'VE SUBMITTED MAPS THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE THIS AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THE COUNCIL'S COMMUNICATED SO WE CAN GET GOING WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO ARE CLOSER TO BEGINNING THEIR PROJECTS. I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED ON I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE CAN FORCE THE LANDOWNER TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL IN AN AREA WHERE WHERE THEY DON'T WANT IT. WELL, WHEN A LANDOWNER SELLS, WHEN THE LANDOWNER SELLS LAND, THEY GIVE THAT LAND TO SOMEONE ELSE. SO WE'RE NOT FORCING THAT LANDOWNER. IF HE SELLS IT. WE DO KNOW THAT HE'S NO LONGER RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED A 20, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO. NOW THEY CAN COME AND ASK FOR A REZONE OR FUTURE LAND USE. MAP IS SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. OUR STAFF IS SOUTHWEST QUADRANT IS THIS. NOW, IF THEY DON'T WANT THIS, THEY CAN PROPOSE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. AND THAT COMES TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A THEY COULD ALSO SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE SOUTHWEST QUARTER ANYMORE, AND THEY COULD PROPOSE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, AND THAT WOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL. BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT HAS BEEN. THIS IS HOW WE ENVISION THOSE THINGS WORKING OUT, STAYING IN LINE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. WE'VE DONE THIS A LOT TO TO SOME SUCCESS, RIGHT? ZERO PROPERTY. RIGHT. THE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD DIFFERENT VISIONS THAN THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL HELD THE GROUND. YOU HAVE A HOSPITAL NOW. AND AND SO WE DO THESE THESE IRONICALLY, NEITHER WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE COUNCIL HAD IN MIND. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND SOME OF THIS IS, QUITE FRANKLY, PREMATURE. NOT THAT MASTER PLANNING IS PREMATURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET UP TO PRESSURE ZONE SEVEN, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION TO YOU IS IF WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, IT'S BEST TO KEEP AS MANY OPTIONS OPEN AS POSSIBLE. MEANING IF WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE THE GRADE AND STUFF IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AND IT COULD BE VERY, VERY MUCH IT COULD BE A, A CHALLENGE THROUGH HERE. EVEN THE PIT, RIGHT? THE OLD GRAVEL PIT. I SEE THE PIT IS A GREATER CHALLENGE, RIGHT? THAN, THAN, THAN THOSE OTHER SLOPES. RIGHT. IF WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. MY ADVICE TO THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO KEEP AS MANY OPTIONS OPEN AS POSSIBLE. MEANING I WOULD KEEP IT PURPLE INDUSTRIAL IF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SORRY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE NOT USING HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING. I NOTICED NOBODY WANTED TO SAY THAT WORD. NO, BELIEVE ME, THE OMISSION IS THE OMISSION IS GLARING. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS A GUIDE. AND IF IF THE LANDOWNER OR FUTURE DEVELOPERS COME IN IN THE FUTURE AND AND MAKE A SOLID

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PROPOSAL, THE COUNCIL. THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. YOU ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO TO CHANGE IT.

RIGHT. SO AGAIN, TO PAUL'S POINT, WE JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARITY, SOME SOME GENERAL DIRECTION SO THAT THESE DEVELOPERS WHO DO HAVE IMMINENT PLANS CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THOSE IN IN GENERAL ALIGNMENT WITH THIS LAYOUT, RIGHT? ARE SOME OF THESE LINES GOING TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT? YES, 100% THEY WILL. BUT WE JUST WANTED TO PAINT A GENERAL TARGET SO THAT THEY COULD THEY COULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF HITTING THAT TARGET. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THIS DOES IS ENABLE US AND COMMIT ON RECORD THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT 80/20 UNTIL INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE. RIGHT. THAT, LET'S SAY DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE WE SEE 90TH AS A GOOD ENOUGH BUFFER BETWEEN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND INDUSTRIAL TO THE SOUTH. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE MOVING THIS TO A TOPOGRAPHICALLY TOUGH AREA. WELL, THEY CAN PROPOSE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE 80/20 ESTABLISHED.

AND AS SOME OF THE STUFF HERE IN THE NOTES COMMERCIALLY DEVELOPS, WE CAN ADJUST OR BRING ADJUSTED RATIOS BACK TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S, IT'S GOING TOWARDS BECAUSE SOME OF THIS AREA WAS PREVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL IS NOW DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY. DO YOU WANT TO PLACE MORE RESIDENTIAL ELSEWHERE? MAYBE ON A TOPOGRAPHICALLY TOUGH AREA THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNCIL. COULD YOU COULD YOU TALK ABOUT WHY YOU'RE WANTING TO AVOID PUTTING RESIDENTIAL IN THOSE TOPOGRAPHICALLY DIFFICULT AREAS CURRENTLY? YEAH, I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY AREAS, MOST LIKELY WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. SO WAREHOUSES, DATA CENTERS, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WITH ISOLATED NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS. ONE PART OF THE REASON JIM GOT APPROVED, AS IT DID WITH THE DENSITY IT DID, WAS BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ISOLATED AND WAS SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND WE WANTED TO KIND OF HAVE A BUFFER. SO WE PUT SOME DENSITY HERE AND OTHERWISE TO KIND OF BUFFER THAT. AND RIGHT LATER ON, I MEAN, I THINK THESE ARE NICE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GEMS AND NICE PROJECT. AND SO I'M NOT SAYING IT'S BAD, BUT THIS IS SEEN AS A MISTAKE OF PLANNING. AND SO WE SEE THAT AS A MISTAKE PUTTING A USES WHICH WEREN'T COMPATIBLE NEXT TO EACH OTHER SURROUNDING THE USE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS MAP SAY, WELL, THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. WE KNOW THIS ALL DOWN HERE, ZONE ONE, THAT'S GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, WE JUST PROLONGED OR REPLICATING MISTAKES WE MADE IN THE PAST, WHICH WE HAD TO RETROFIT AND WE HAD TO WORK ON FIXING. SO HAVING FORESIGHT, MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING WHICH IS GOING TO, IN THE PAST BE SEEN AS A MISTAKE AND REPEAT THAT MISTAKE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE FUTURE GROWTH TO THE WEST IS BEING CONSIDERED. I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT THE CITY WILL GROW TO THE WEST, RIGHT? RUNNING INTO THE WEST OF THE RED LINE. RIGHT.

AND AND YOU'VE GOT THESE, YOU KNOW, LAND CORRIDORS, ARTERIALS AND. YEAH, WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, DOES IT OCCUR? AND SO IT'S NOT BECOME AS ISOLATED, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS IT MAY BE. AND OF COURSE, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IT MAY NOT BE AS ISOLATED AS WE CURRENTLY SEE. IT IS CORRECT. YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW THAT. BUT I ALSO THINK I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE AREAS RESIDENTIAL AREAS A, B, C AND D, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T WANT RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. AND I ALSO AM STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT I KNOW THAT'S MORE FLAT THERE. AND IT'D BE EASIER TO PUT INDUSTRIAL USES IN THAT LOCATION VERSUS IN THIS VERY FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER AND WHERE IT'S QUITE DIVERSE GEOGRAPHICALLY OR SORT OF TOPOGRAPHICALLY. YEAH. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WE SHOWED THIS IS JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATED TO FROM THE COUNCIL AND WHAT OUR CODE ALLOWS. AND CURRENTLY WE UNDERSTAND THAT MOSTLY WE'RE TRYING TO GET IF THIS LOOKS GOOD FOR NOW, BARRING ALL THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WEST OF U 111, THAT ALLOWS THIS DEVELOPER TO START GOING. AND THEN EVERYTHING HERE EXCEPT FOR THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN SUBSEQUENT

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MEETINGS. YEAH. AND I, I ALSO THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER THERE. THEY HAVE THEIR OPINIONS. BUT AS AVERY BUILDS OUT JONES RANCH OR DRY CREEK HIGHLAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. THEY'RE BUILDING THESE HOUSES IN THERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IN THERE WHO ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A SAY WHEN YOU APPROVE INDUSTRIAL IN THEIR BACKYARD. YEAH. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DATA CENTER HERE OFF 90TH. M1 RIGHT. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING THAT WHOLE THING THERE? THEY WERE THE NEXT ONE TO THE EAST. SO A BUFFER MAKES SENSE. THIS. SO I'M CURIOUS THOUGH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA BETTER DEFINED IN CODE THAN HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING. SO THE REASON I DID ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY 30 DIFFERENT USES THERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S ONLY HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING. IT'S ONLY DATA CENTERS OR IT'S ONLY WAREHOUSING BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY IN CODE IS ALL THIS STUFF IS THEY'RE ALL USES THAT ARE LISTED IN SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. THAT'S PERMITTED. YES.

IT'S A WIDER A WIDER SCOPE. YEAH. AND SO WE KEEP GETTING SOLD. I THINK THIS DICHOTOMY OF 200,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS OR RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. YOU COULD BUILD SPECTRUM. YOU COULD BUILD 100 DIFFERENT THINGS HERE. THAT LEADS ME THOUGH, TO SAY, WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOME RESIDENTIAL, AND FRANKLY, I'M VERY SAD THAT THERE'S NO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THERE AT ALL, BECAUSE THAT'S THE NICEST PROPERTY IN THE CITY. THAT WEST SIDE WITH THOSE HILLS, THAT IS THE NICEST VIEWS. THAT IS THE NICEST PROPERTY IN THE CITY.

YOUR JAZZ PLAYER IS GOING TO LIVE THERE. WHO'S GOING TO LIVE ANYWHERE, RIGHT? AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, IF THE JAZZ PLAYER WANTS TO LIVE THERE, HE'S GOING TO LIVE IN A TOWNHOUSE NEXT TO A WAREHOUSE. SO WE SAY MAXIMUM DENSITY IN THE MEDIUM IS SEVEN AND A HALF.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE 100 ACRES OF MEDIAN IS GOING TO BE SEVEN AND A HALF ACRE. IT COULD BE VERY WELL, YOU COULD HAVE ONE AND TWO IN THERE. AND HONESTLY, ZACH, THE REAL FOOTHILLS DON'T START FOR ANOTHER MILE WEST OF THAT RED LINE. YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY, AS I SAID, THE NICEST IN THE CITY. BUT EVENTUALLY, EVENTUALLY THAT'S YEAH, THAT THAT COULD THAT COULD BE I MEAN, THAT'S BUT AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, THAT'S THAT'S AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT GETS. RIGHT. AND YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA NOW INCLUDES LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY ANY SPECIFIC USE OF HIGH TECH MANUFACTURING OR WHATEVER, COULD BE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THEN MAYBE IT COULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL UP AGAINST THOSE. EXACTLY. MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY CAME IN WITH A PROPOSAL LIKE RESEARCH PARK RESIDENTIAL MAKES SENSE. EXTENDED THAT. AND THAT COULD ALSO WORK WITH TOPOGRAPHY. SO THAT'S NOT TO SAY THERE'S ONLY ONE ANSWER HERE. IT'S SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE THINK PRIMARILY IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND IF A PROJECT COMES IN AND THEY'RE CREATIVE AND SMART AND THEY HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT USES, RESIDENTIAL MIGHT MAKE SENSE WITHIN THOSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE WHOLE THING SHOULD BE CHARTREUSE OR WHATEVER THE COLOR IS FOR SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. AND WE LEAVE IT AND WE TAKE THE PIECES THAT COME IN AS THE PIECES THAT COME IN, AND THEN YOU START GETTING A PATCHWORK THAT FIT. YEAH. I MEAN, WE'VE DONE THIS WITH WITH OTHER ONES WITH DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS. WE DIDN'T FORCE THEM TO COME IN WITH SITE PLANS FOR EVERY ONE OF THE VILLAGES TERRAIN. WE HAVEN'T COME, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T COME INTO SITE PLANS FOR EVERY VILLAGE AT THE BEGINNING. RIGHT. WE SAY HERE'S GENERAL DIRECTION AND COME IN WITH YOUR PROPOSALS. WE'VE ALREADY GOT GENERAL DIRECTION IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. WE'RE TAKING THE GENERAL SOUTHWEST QUADRANT DIRECTION AND ADDING A LAYER TO IT AND STILL LEAVING IT SO FLUID. YES. BUT I FEEL LIKE TO THIS POINT, THERE HASN'T BEEN A AN UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN STAFF COUNCIL AND APPLICANTS HAVE COME IN ON WHAT THAT GENERAL VISION IS. RIGHT. I THINK WE COULD ASK PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND, YOU KNOW, 6040 WAS THE NUMBER BEFORE. IF YOU ASK OTHER PEOPLE, IT MIGHT BE 9910. WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE THAT MIGHT BE 5050 OR 6040 THE OTHER DIRECTION. SO I THINK IF WE ASKED TEN PEOPLE WHAT THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT SAID, WE MIGHT GET 11 DIFFERENT ANSWERS. SO COMING UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS HELPS US SET THE STAGE AND KNOWING THERE'S STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN WITH A REZONING AGREEMENT AND MAKE THAT CASE TO YOU. BUT THIS HELPS US SET THAT FIRST, FIRST MARKER FOR WHAT WE SHOULD NEGOTIATE FROM A SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNCIL, RATHER THAN EVERYBODY TRYING TO DETERMINE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT IT IS. AND COUNCILMAN JACOB, YOU THOSE OTHER LIKE DRY CREEK AND TERRAIN, THOSE WERE ALL RESIDENTIAL FOR THE MOST PART,

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FOR THE MOST PART. AND SO IT WAS EASIER TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE TARGET. AND WE'RE JUST PLAYING WITH DENSITY RANGES. YOU KNOW, DRY CREEK HAD THAT COMMERCIAL NODE, RIGHT? TERRAIN.

IF YOU RECALL. I KNOW CORBIN DOES. IT WAS FOUR PLUS YEARS OF VERY DETAILED. I MEAN, WE GOT THE COUNCIL APPROVED, BASICALLY A LIGHTING PLAN FOR THOSE YOU PLAN TO THE VERY LOT SIZE AND LAYOUT OF TERRAIN. THAT'S WHY IT TOOK SO LONG. AND THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T COME BACK FOR EVERY SUBDIVISION. RIGHT. YOU DID YOUR THE HEAVY LIFT. IT'S DONE THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF POTENTIAL USES. WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS TO EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT TO KIND OF SOLIDIFY IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO WIDE OPEN. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN AREA G IS SOME LOW DENSITY HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT UP TO LOW DENSITY HOUSING LOWER. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY TYPEKIT. YEAH, THAT'S THE LOWEST. IT CALLS FOR THAT.

THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, SEVEN AND A HALF MAX. BUT THAT WOULD BE AT YOUR INTERSECTIONS. WE WOULD EXPECT THE DENSITY WOULD BE LOWER IN PORTIONS OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I DID SEE SOME. DID YOU MEET WITH SOMEBODY FROM IVORY ABOUT THAT? AND THEY HAD SOME GREAT PLANS.

I THOUGHT, YEAH, GARNER HAS SOME PRETTY DETAILED PLANS FOR THAT. THAT POCKET. WHAT WAS IT? GARDENER. YEAH. GARDENER. YEAH. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THAT G THE PLANS THAT I SAW FOR THAT POCKET WERE IT LOOKED REALLY NICE. WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, YOU CAN COME IN TO ME RIGHT NOW WITH A SUBDIVISION PLAN OR A ZONING PLAN OR WHATEVER FOR G. AND I'D BE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO REVIEW THAT. LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT US OR THE COUNCIL TO GET PAINTED IN THE CORNER, RIGHT? IF, IF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE AND WE'RE ASSUMING IT HASN'T CHANGED. BUT IF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THIS PORTION OF THE CITY IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST BE THE WAY TO THAT LITTLE BY LITTLE BY LITTLE, OVER TIME, WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH THE RATIO, OKAY, SET THE SET THE MARK, AND THEN AND THEN BASED ON ON THOSE NUMBERS, ENTERTAIN THOSE APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME IN. I LIKE THAT VISION. THAT'S LET ME ASK WITH THIS THOUGH. ARE YOU SAYING THAT? AND I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SEEING IF THEY COME IN WITH SOMETHING THAT'S SMART AND WORKS. SO SAY BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY, THEY HAVE TO, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING SOME RESIDENTIAL. DO WE THEN POINT OUT, WELL, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO LOSE THE RESIDENTIAL ON WHAT WE HAVE ABOVE HERE SO THAT IT'S NOT A SNEAKY WAY OF TRYING TO GET MORE IN WITH THIS IDEA, ARE WE, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY SAYING, OKAY, WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT THIS, BUT WHERE ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE AWAY FROM TO KEEP IT AT A LEVEL THAT WAS THE GENERAL IDEA OF ESTABLISHING THE RATIO. AND THIS IS A GUIDE. BUT IF IF YOU KNOW, IVY, FOR EXAMPLE, COMES IN WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL. THAT SAID, THAT MAKES SENSE TO THE COUNCIL. YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY CAN ENTERTAIN IT. BUT THE 80/20, THE INTENT WAS TO KEEP TO THAT 80/20 THAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL. AND LIKE SCOTT SAID, THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. SO IF YOUR MIND CHANGES OVER THE COURSE OF, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS NEEDS TO COME IN, CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY, WHATEVER IT IS, AND YOU SAID 80/20 WAS THE WRONG. WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YEAH.

YOU AS A COUNCIL HAVE ALL OF THAT LEEWAY RIGHT NOW TO DO THAT. AND YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT. THIS ISN'T INVESTMENT PROPERTY. THIS ISN'T EVEN REZONING ANYTHING. SO ALL OF THAT LEVERAGE REMAINS WITH YOU AS A COUNCIL TO CHANGE YOUR VISION AS YOU GET MORE INFORMATION, WHICH IS WHY I AM HESITANT TO TAKE THAT STEP BECAUSE THAT STEP IS IT'S A STEP, BUT IT'S A STEP TO ANOTHER FLUID PLACE WHERE YOU WHERE WE CAN CHANGE THAT STEP IF WE WANT TO. WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE. WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE SOMETHING. THE REASON WHY IT BUGS ME, THOUGH, IS SCOTT WILL REMEMBER THIS. BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, WE HAD THIS RATIO IDEA OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN THE CITY, RIGHT? WE STILL DO, RIGHT? I REMEMBER WHEN WE PUT THAT IN, WE HAD A GOAL OF 8317, RIGHT? IT'S 83% SINGLE FAMILY AND 17% MULTIFAMILY. WHAT'S OUR RATIO NOW? I, I DARE SAY AT THE TIME, I THINK IT WAS 78, 22, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS TOWARDS THAT IT EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO DO AN AUDIT. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, LARRY, I THINK IS 1722 WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. SO THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE AT THEN. 22, 17% SINGLE FAMILY, 22% MULTIFAMILY IN TERMS OF UNITS. RIGHT, RIGHT.

IS OUR PERFECT WORLD. THAT'S NOT A COUNTY, IS NOT THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT. I WOULD SAY. I

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THINK WE BUILT A LOT MORE MULTIFAMILY THAN WE ANTICIPATED AT THAT TIME. I REMEMBER YOU SAYING IN A MEETING A LONG TIME AGO THAT WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO ENTITLE A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. THAT WASN'T ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS IN THE CODE EVER IN THE CITY. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT ONE. WE HAVEN'T. I'M STILL RIGHT. AND WE KEEP AT IT RIGHT. WE KEEP SAYING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS EXCEPTION? DO WE WANT ALLOW THIS EXCEPTION? OH YEAH, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. AND ALL WE'RE GETTING IS EXCEPTIONS BEING BROUGHT TO US, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE ALLOW EXCEPTIONS. SO WHEN I SEE A RATIO OF 8020 I THINK THAT'S A NICE LITTLE EXERCISE. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING UNTIL THE APPLICATIONS COME IN. IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST A NICE LITTLE EXERCISE. AT LEAST THOSE APPLICATIONS CAN BE MORE FOCUSED. BEFORE, IT WAS KIND OF WIDE OPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AT 60, 40. WE WERE 5050. WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF NUMBERS THROWN OUT. RIGHT. THIS THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE MORE FOCUS, NOT JUST WITH APPLICATIONS COME IN, BUT FOR, FOR GREG AND HIS GROUP AS THEY ARE PLANNING UTILITIES IN THEIR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO HAVING AT LEAST A LITTLE MORE CLARITY BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. AND IT STILL IS, RIGHT? IT STILL IS. YEAH. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL NODES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT? I'VE NOTICED THAT WE HAVE FEWER AND FEWER OF THOSE. I MEAN, WHEN I SEE THOSE, I KIND OF THINK OF LIKE 78TH AND 48TH WHERE THE SUBWAY AND THE LITTLE QUICKIE MART IS AND THE AUTOZONE, AND YOU'VE GOT THIS LITTLE. AND NOW THERE'S AN OIL CHANGE PLACE TOO. YOU'VE GOT THIS LITTLE CORNER STRIP MALL, RIGHT. AND SOME OF SOMETIMES THEIR GAS STATIONS.

AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT YOU DON'T SEE THE CORNER GROCERY STORE AND FAST FOOD SPOT. YOU SEE THOSE CLUSTERING MORE LIKE 78TH AND 56, RIGHT? YOU SEE THAT KIND OF THING.

MORE CLUSTERS. YEAH. THAT'S A BIGGER NODE AS A YEAH, YOU SEE THEM, YOU SEE THEM CLUSTERING, RIGHT? YOU DON'T SEE THEM. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL HOW MANY APPLICATIONS HAVE COME TO US TO REZONE FORMER COMMERCIAL THINGS SAYING, OH, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT HERE, WE'VE NOW PUT IT OVER AT 78TH AND 56TH WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF LIKE 78TH AND 48TH WAS GOING TO BE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER WHERE THE SENIOR LIVING IS GOING. THAT WAS GOING TO BE ALL COMMERCIAL.

WELL, WE MOVED IT UP THE STREET TO BE WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF, RIGHT? TO BE WITH THE SMITHS AND THE. YOU STILL HAVE A LITTLE C STORE? YEAH, THERE'S A STORE, A LITTLE CORNER. SO ARE YOU USING THOSE AS LITTLE CORNER PLACES? I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU SHOULD PICK ONE NODE AND CALL THAT THE COMMERCIAL CORNER. SO AND CLUSTER BIGGER. YEAH. WHEN I LOOK AT THESE, I LOOK AT A COUPLE THINGS. THIS WOULD BE WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR HIGHEST DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL POSSIBLE. SO UP TO THE 40. BUT I ALSO LOOK AT NODES HAVING A LONG LIFE. SO THEY MIGHT DEVELOP AS PRIMARILY HOUSING WITH MAYBE A SMALL STORE. BUT AS THE CITY BUILDS OUT, YOU KNOW, LAND BECOMES MORE CONCENTRATED, MORE VALUABLE, THOSE MIGHT CHANGE.

AND SO WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT IT SAYING, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THIS. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE TAJ MAHAL. IT'S PERFECT. I IMAGINE THESE AREAS OVER 30, 40, 50 YEARS REDEVELOP AND HAVING THOSE NODES ESTABLISHED WITH MULTIPLE USES THERE WOULD ALLOW THOSE AS THE CITY MATURES TO REDEVELOP, IN WAYS WHICH SLOWLY GROW AND CHANGE AND INTENSIFY.

AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW, MAYBE 50 YEARS OFF THIS LOCATION. IT DOES MAKE SENSE. WE DON'T KNOW. AND SO HAVING A NODE WHICH HAS EXTRA DENSITY, BETTER ACCESS TO TRANSIT, I ANTICIPATE AT SOME POINT THERE'LL BE A GREAT BUS ROUTE FOR YOU TO MAYBE BE A FAST BUS. SO AS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS COME ON LONG TERM, THE CHARACTER OF THESE AREAS CHANGE RATHER THAN JUST SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO BULLDOZE THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REDO IT, ALLOWING NEIGHBORHOODS TO EVOLVE AND GROW SLOWLY AND CHANGE THE CONDITIONS AROUND THEM. SO. I MADE THIS MAP. THIS MAP TENDS TO CONCENTRATE YOUR THINKING TO INSIDE OF THAT RED BOUNDARY, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE ON THE EDGE. SO YOU'RE KEEPING IN MIND WHAT'S ADJACENT. RIGHT HERE. YOU 111 AND 90TH, THIS CORNER ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION WILL BE COMMERCIAL PER THE IVORY, THE DRY CREEK HIGHLANDS MASTER PLAN. SO THAT'S ALREADY PLANNED. AND I THINK IVORY'S WORKING HARD ON A PRETTY BIG COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE. ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION WILL BE THE HIGH SCHOOL. THAT'S WHERE THE NEXT HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING. AND THAT WAS YOU WERE AWARE OF THE LAND SWAP AND EVERYTHING THERE. THIS, THIS, THIS MAP. ALSO, EVERY

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TIME I LOOK AT THIS MAP, IT MAKES ME THINK THIS IS 90TH EXTENDING HERE. BUT REMEMBER THIS CURVES DOWN. THERE'S NO BUFFER BETWEEN THIS AND THIS IN TERMS OF A COLLECTOR ROAD.

THOSE WILL BE BACK TO BACK PROPERTIES AT THAT FAR WEST EDGE. SO JUST KEEP KEEP SOME OF THAT BECAUSE OF THAT ROAD THING. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AWARE OF THAT. AND WHY THAT MIGHT BE THE REASON WHY THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR RESIDENTIAL. THEY'RE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT IT THERE. BUT THE ROAD CHANGE, THAT WOULD BE TOUGH TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL RIGHT THERE. SO TONIGHT, COUNCIL, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME MORE DEFINITIVE DIRECTION, AT LEAST EAST OF 111 FOR ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS IN THE ROOM. SORRY. OH, OKAY. YEAH. AND FOR THE SAKE OF SOME AREAS RIGHT HERE, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SMALL AREA PLANS COMING IN, SOME APPLICATIONS. BUT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PROVIDED US WITH MAPS TO. WELL, I GUESS SHOW A VISUAL OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH SORT OF TOPOGRAPHICAL ISSUES. WE KNOW THAT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS STILL SOMEWHAT. IN FLUX BECAUSE OF LANDOWNER CONCERNS, DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS, TOPOGRAPHICAL CONCERNS, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL LIKE TO SEE THOSE MAPS THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE IN HERE. WE CAN LOOK. MY ONLY CONCERN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND YOU KNOW, ALL RESPECT TO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HERE IS IT'LL BE OKAY. WELL, WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHICAL. AND THEN BUT IT STILL MADE SENSE WHAT YOU HAD UP HERE. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN 8020 IS QUICKLY BECAME 7030 BECAUSE OF WHAT WE APPROVED THIS. AND YEAH, IT WAS GREAT TO KEEP THAT WHERE IT WAS.

SO MY ONLY GOAL IN THIS IS WHATEVER WE PUT TOGETHER IS NOT A WE'RE OPENING THE DOOR TO ALLOW STREET TO, YOU KNOW, TO START TO WORK THROUGH THAT. IT BECOMES A VERY STRAIGHT THING OF IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THIS, THEN YOU HAVE TO RELEASE SOMETHING ELSE. AND WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP IN THAT AND NOT A. WELL, WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE WANTED. THIS IS THIS IS THE EXCEPTION KIND OF THING WE HEAR ALL THE TIME IN COUNCIL.

WE TRY TO DO IT THIS WAY. WE TRIED TO GET COMMERCIAL THERE, BUT WE COULDN'T. SO THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE NOW IS, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY ARE WE TRY TO DO THIS AND IT DIDN'T WORK. SO THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE IS MULTIFAMILY. THIS IS THE KIND OF EXCEPTION I'VE BEEN HEARING FOR, YOU KNOW, MY ENTIRE TIME ON HERE. AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT THAT'S THE CREEP THAT WE SHOW IN HERE. WE TRIED TO DO COMMERCIAL SO WE COULDN'T. SO WE HAVE TO PUT THE HOUSING HERE. BUT THEN YOU SAID IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE HOUSING UP HERE. AND WE JUST WANT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT CREEPS THAT WAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO AVOID THAT I HAVE A SIMILAR CONCERN, ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING THE NORTHEAST AREA PLAN OR NORTHWEST EXCUSE ME, THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MANY BECAUSE I WASN'T ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. I SEE THAT AND IT'S LIKE MIND BLOWING HOW MANY HOUSES ARE GOING OUT THERE? SO I'M LIKE, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO EAT? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO SHOP? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO? ARE THEY ALL GOING TO GO TO JORDAN LANDING? AND SO I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN ABOUT US WHERE BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE PUSHED AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO HAVE THE MINDSET OF LIKE, OH YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE FLEXIBLE ON THIS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'M SEEING THAT. I'M LIKE, NO, THERE WON'T BE FLEXIBILITY UNLESS THEY'RE WILLING TO SWAP SOMETHING OUT. LIKE BOB SAID, JUST A REMINDER TO THESE, THESE NODES HERE, THIS IS, THIS MAY BE 80/20 FROM A SHEER FOOTPRINT STANDPOINT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT THAT'S REALLY AS STATED RIGHT THERE WITH THOSE NODES. SOME OF THAT WILL END UP BEING COMMERCIAL AND WILL CHIP AWAY AT THAT 20%. IF THE FOOTPRINT WERE TO ACTUALLY STAY, THAT IF IT WORKED OUT. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A THING THAT WE'RE COGNIZANT OF WHAT IS BEING PUT IN AND THAT THE BALANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED STAYS IN A IN A BALANCED WAY. I GUESS ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS IF YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE NODES AND LET'S SAY WE GET SOME DECENT SIZED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE NODES. WHAT HAPPENS WITH. LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOT. 200 ACRES OR 150 ACRES THAT MAYBE THAT'S EVEN TOO BIG OF A NUMBER.

LET'S SAY IT'S 50 ACRES OF, HEY, WE'VE NOW GOT MORE THAN 90%. SO WE, WE COULD TAKE THAT 1 OR 2%

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AND, AND DROP IN LITTLE ISLANDS OF RESIDENTIAL IN PLACES WHERE MAYBE THEY DON'T BELONG. BUT I THINK THERE'S CONCERN THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN ULTIMATELY, THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, RIGHT. TO FILE THE APPLICATION, GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, COME TO THE COUNCIL PROCESS, AND MAYBE THE LINE JUST MOVES SLIGHTLY TO THE SOUTH AND IT'S NO BIG DEAL. SO, I MEAN, WE CAN WITH EVERY APPLICATION THAT COMES THROUGH THE DOOR, RIGHT? WE CAN WE CAN HAVE THAT, THAT RUNNING METER, RIGHT, OF WHAT IS THE RATIO BASED ON THIS APPLICATION. SO YOU CAN KEEP TABS ON THAT. I ALSO THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT I'VE SAID THIS PROBABLY A HUNDRED TIMES HERE, BUT SOUTHWEST QUADRANT IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ZONE.

IF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS PERFORMING SO WELL THAT THAT'S PERFORMING BETTER THAN YOUR RESIDENTIAL, LIKE THAT'S A SUCCESS. I DON'T THINK YOU YOU GET MAD BECAUSE YOU'RE DEVELOPING MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAN YOU PLANNED. LIKE THAT'S A SIGN OF A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AS WELL. SOUTHWEST QUADRANT IS A ZONE, RIGHT? YES.

AND NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN ZONED OUT, RIGHT? TWO PORTIONS HAVE. ELECTRIC HAS BEEN ZONED THAT AND JONES LANDING NORTH ZONE. SO ABOUT 25 TOTAL ACRES. BUT WASATCH ELECTRIC IS. YEAH. NO THAT'S I'M WRONG. THAT SOUTHWEST QUADRANT MIXED USE. BUT AND TO RESPECT THE CHAIR AND THE COUNCIL AND TO THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE HERE WE YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO LET THEM COME TO THE TABLE AND TALK AND HEAR, HEAR THEIR THEIR THEIR PROPOSALS. GREAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, CHAIR, WE DO WANT SOME GENERAL DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, IS THIS AS A GUIDE POINTED THE RIGHT DIRECTION? CAN WE CAN WE PROCEED FORWARD AND TAKE THIS TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND AND GET THIS AREA PLAN ADOPTED SO THAT WE CAN START TAKING THESE APPLICATIONS FOR FOR IVORY AND GARDENER, AS LONG AS THEY LINE UP WITH THE PLAN. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT AND SEE WHAT IT DOES TO THE RATIO. I THINK MY MY VIEW IS JUST THAT WE WE LOOK TO KEEP THINGS I. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NODES BE BIGGER BECAUSE I.

AND MAYBE IT'S JUST ME, BUT I THINK IF WE'VE GOT GOOD PLACES FOR ALL THE, THE WORKERS TO GO TO GRAB SOME FOOD, TO GRAB SOME STUFF, TO HAVE EVERYTHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF OUR APPLICANTS IS PUT TOGETHER THINGS SAYING, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BRING THE BEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THAT AREA? AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE MORE HOUSES, BECAUSE THERE ARE HOUSES ALL OVER THE PLACE AND ALL AROUND THAT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF. I WANT TO SEE A REAL PLAN OF WHAT IF WE WANTED TO GO AFTER THIS PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER ENTITY, WHATEVER THEY ARE, WHAT IS IT THEY WOULD MOST WANT TO SEE NEAR THEM TO BRING THEM THERE? AND I WANT TO SEE US START WORKING SYNERGY IN THAT. AND IF YOU TELL ME, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD GET THIS BIG THING THAT'S GOING TO BE HUGE FOR THE CITY IS THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, SOME APARTMENTS THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR EMPLOYEES WORKING WITHIN, YOU KNOW, NEVER LEAVING THE OFFICE 300 YARDS AWAY. AND WE CAN SEE THAT AND SEE LETTERS FROM THEM SAYING THAT THEN THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S NOT MY MY WORRY AT TIMES IS THAT IT'S ONE GROUP WANTS THIS, ONE GROUP WANTS THIS. WE EVEN HEARD THINGS SAYING WE'D LOVE IT IF IT WAS 100% INDUSTRIAL, AND WE'D LOVE IT IF IT'S 100% RESIDENTIAL. THAT DOESN'T TELL ME THAT WE'RE. WE'VE GOT GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER IN A SENSE. SO WHAT I'D LOVE FROM THE APPLICANTS IS SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THESE NODES COULD BE HUGE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE COULD HAVE A LOT OF PLACES TO GO TO EAT, TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BRING IN THIS WHEN YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, CAME TO ME AND SAID, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH G? YOU KNOW, THAT AREA THERE? MY ANSWER WAS, I WOULD LOVE TO USE THAT AS BAIT TO BRING IN BIG FISH. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU PUT IN G AND F SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND COULD HAVE A MIX OF SOME THINGS. WHAT IS GOING TO GO IN THERE THAT WILL BRING IN THE BEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUFF IN THE REST OF THAT QUADRANT AND USE IT AS BAIT AND MAYBE ASK WHATEVER BIG FISH WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE IN G AND F? AND THEN YOU COME TO US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US. AND THEN IT BECOMES THIS. WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, AND NOT JUST A, YOU KNOW, TOPOGRAPHICALLY, THIS IS WHAT

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WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE IT'S EASIEST FOR US. I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE AND SHOWS HOW WE WORK IN SYNERGY TO MAKE ALL OF THIS WORK TOGETHER, TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. AND I THINK THAT ON THE APPLICANT SIDE, THAT WOULD ONLY BENEFIT THEM AS WELL. IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT I HAD THE. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE OF RESIDENTIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? MY ONLY REAL CONCERN IS TO GO. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SHELTON IS SAYING. WE'VE GOT AN OWNER WHO DOESN'T WANT THIS, AND WE'D HAVE TO TALK THEM INTO THAT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE CONCERN OF WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TOLD THAT THERE'S AN AREA THAT WE'VE GOT PINK THAT SHOULD BE YELLOW GOLD BECAUSE OF TOPOGRAPHICAL THINGS. SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO WORK. YEAH, IT GIVES SOME DIRECTION, BUT I LIKE THE DIRECTION. IT GIVES SOME GOOD DIRECTION. BUT I THINK IF WE CAN ACCEPT THIS, KNOWING THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES IN THE FUTURE AND, AND AS LONG AS WE CAN MAINTAIN THE GUIDELINES GIVEN BY THE COUNCIL ALREADY OF THE 8020, I THINK IT'S OKAY. AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT PODS SHOW THIS IS WHERE WE SEE MORE HIGHER DENSITY. THIS IS WHERE WE SEE MEDIUM DENSITY.

OKAY WITH THAT. BUT TO GO WITH ALSO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS SAYING, WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IT IN BITE SIZED PIECES ANYWAY. NO ONE'S GOING TO COME IN AND GO, HERE'S THE PLAN. WE'VE WORKED IT OUT FULLY. BOOM. IT'S GOING TO BE, HERE'S THE PLAN FOR THIS. HERE'S THE PLAN FOR THIS. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY BEING TOLD THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ON, YOU KNOW, WEST OF YOU. 111 THEY WANT TO MAYBE TALK TO US ABOUT. SO WE'RE ALREADY GETTING BITE SIZED CHUNKS ANYWAY. I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET. WHAT WE REALLY LIKE IS HERE IS THE MASTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA. WE'VE GOT THAT. THAT'S FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE. THAT SHOWS THAT EVERYONE'S WORKING TOGETHER. YEAH. RIGHT NOW IT'S AND IT COULD BE JUST ON A THING OF WE CAN ONLY WORK ON PLANS AND I'M SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ANSWER. WE CAN ONLY WORK ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO GO IN THERE AND WE CAN FIND THE SPACE FOR THEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS IN BITE SIZE PIECES, BUT I JUST WANT TO NOT HAVE CREEP START TO GO EITHER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. EVEN, I MEAN, IN TERMS OF ONE SIDE TRYING TO GET CLOSER TO, TO THEIR THING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S WORKING TOGETHER. THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON FOR US TO BRING THIS IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AREAS THAT ARE GETTING READY TO GO. AND UNTIL WE CAN GET A WHOLE MAP THAT EVERYBODY CAN AGREE TO, WE DON'T WANT TO CONSTRAIN THOSE ONES FROM KNOWING WE'RE GOING TO GET CHANGED. THAT WHOLE MAP THAT EVERYONE CAN AGREE TO, WHATEVER. WELL, WE'LL NEVER GET THAT. I THINK EVEN WHEN IT'S ALL BUILT, IT'LL BE 51%, 49%.

IN FACT, WE'RE ALREADY BEING TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THE BATTERY PLANT'S GONE, WE WANT TO NOW PUT IT TO THIS. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING EVEN AFTER IT'S COMPLETELY DONE. BUT I. MY ONLY WORRY IS THAT WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SAYS 8020, WHATEVER THAT AND THAT LOOKS COOL. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT WE END UP WITH. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. MY ONLY THING IS THAT WE MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME GUARDRAILS PUT IN SO THAT THE CREEP DOESN'T START TO GO TO SOMETHING WE ALREADY SAID WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH. AND WHEN YOU SAY THE CREEP, YOU DON'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT REFERRING TO A PERSON. I'M GOING TO JUST LEAVE IT OUT THERE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT PEOPLE KNOW. NO, IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE SCALE'S STARTING TO CREEP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU CAN NEVER BIND A FUTURE COUNCIL. YEP. YEAH. AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING. UNDO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TODAY CAN BE UNDONE. IN FOUR YEARS ALL OF US HAVE BEEN REPLACED. THAT'S RIGHT. SO? SO WE ALL HAVE TO STAY ON THE COUNCIL'S. LIFETIME. EIGHT YEARS, 12 YEARS QUICKLY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. IN THAT BULLET POINTS, THERE ARE MAPS AVAILABLE FROM MORE INFORMATION IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN WE LIKE INFORMATION. YOU WANT TO SEE THAT DEVELOPER SUBMITTED ONES. IS THAT ARE THEY ALREADY UP THERE? ARE THEY IN THE DECK? IT'S UP TO JUST ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO SO THIS IS 70. WELL JUST SAY 75, 25, 75.5 INDUSTRIAL AND 24.5% RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS IS REFLECTING WHAT COUNCIL IS

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TALKING ABOUT WITH THE LANDOWNER AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IT SAID, NO, I DON'T WANT ANY RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS REFLECTS THE TOPOGRAPHICAL ISSUES OF DEVELOPERS COMMUNICATED TO US.

THIS IS THE PIT RIGHT HERE THAT IS NOT SEEN AS CHALLENGING AS THIS AREA IS. WITH THE RISES, IT SHOULD BE TERRAIN SOUTH. AND LOOKED AT THAT PIT AND I THOUGHT, WHY? HOW WOULD YOU PUT ANYTHING INDUSTRIAL IN THERE? THAT SEEMS DIFFICULT, BUT THEN YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. NO.

SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT 90TH RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHERE THIS ACTUALLY STARTS TO CURVE DOWN ON OUR TMP, RIGHT. RIGHT HERE. WHAT'S THE CURVE FOR JUST BECAUSE OF TRYING TO MAKE IT MATCH UP WITH A ALREADY EXISTING EXISTING ROAD THAT'S OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS AND IS THE GRADE AS WELL. IT'S AN ALREADY EXISTING ROAD. IT'S A SERVICE ROAD, A SERVICE ROAD THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. IT'S ON OUR PREVIOUS MAP. OH YEAH. OH, THE CURVE ON THE BOTTOM. OKAY, I SEE I WASN'T CLEAR WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE. THERE'S A ROAD, RIGHT? OKAY, OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT'S HE TALKING ABOUT? ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, 111 AND THE CITY BOUNDARIES, WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO STRAIGHT FROM EAST TO WEST. THE WHOLE CITY. YEAH. IT CURVES. YEAH. ONLY THING IS, IF THAT ROAD DOES GO IN, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT AS BEING RESIDENTIAL. SO WE'LL HAVE A WALMART OUT THERE SOMEDAY. I ACTUALLY LIKE OR UNLESS IT'S A I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT. YEAH.

LIKE INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NEXT TO. I WOULD JUST SAY TO THIS DOESN'T TAKE. THEY TOOK THAT OUT OF THE RATIO. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ACTUALLY. WELL, IF THAT WAS IF YOU WERE TO MASS THAT OVER THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES TO THOSE RATIOS OVER THERE. IT DECREASES THE RESIDENTIAL NUMBER AND INCREASES THE INDUSTRIAL NUMBER, GET YOU BACK TO 8020. THAT'S.

YEAH. WELL IT DEPENDS IF IT'S BETWEEN ELECTRIC AND JONES LANDING, IT WAS 19%. SO THEY'RE SHOWING 25% HERE. BUT IT WAS 19% WITH THOSE TWO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. I KNOW THAT. OKAY. WELL I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IF YOU FILL THAT WHOLE THING IN, THE YELLOW NUMBER GOES DOWN, THE PINK NUMBER GOES UP AND YOU FILL IT ALL IN, BUT IT'S NOT ALL RIGHT.

IT'S IN THERE. AND WE KNOW SOME OF THIS IS SLATED TO BE COMMERCIAL ANYWAY TOO, WHICH WOULD EVEN WITH THAT PREVIOUS MAP THAT WE SHOWED PREVIOUSLY WITH THE YELLOW ALL THE WAY ACROSS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALL. I WOULD BE SLOW TO APPROVE THE 149 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL IN IN ITS OWN LITTLE POCKET, WITHOUT PLANS TO HAVE IT CONNECTING TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT IN THE CITY. CITY, NO, BUT THAT WILL SET THAT WOULD SET THE STAGE, THOUGH. YEAH.

HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE YOU'LL HAVE AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND THE THING THAT GOES NEXT TO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE. THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE, A PARK PUSHING IT FORWARD. YEAH. AND WHAT I'D HAVE TO SEE WITH THIS IS JUST MORE. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LOOK OF THIS IS? SO THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN REALLY LOOK AT WITH THIS AND ENVISION WITHOUT THIS, JUST BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HOUSES IN THE MIDDLE OF WAREHOUSES ALL AROUND ON EITHER SIDE, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE THOUGHTS EXCEPT FOR THE TERRAIN ISSUES. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, WITH THAT AND HOW IT WORKS IN BUT ALSO TO GO WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHELTON IS SAYING, HOW THAT ALSO WORKS OUT INTO COULD BE THE CONTINUATION WESTWARD, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO COME AT SOME POINT. AND SO I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS GOING IN AND I, I GOT A FEELING THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP BEING, I DON'T WANT TO SAY STRONG ARMED. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE METHOD OF IT. BUT THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO END UP LOOKING. BUT I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT, IT'S BEING DESIGNED AT IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE STUFF AROUND THE INDUSTRIAL SEEMS LIKE IT IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BUFFERED A BIT. AND THEN WHAT IS THE PLAN AND LOOK OF WHAT THIS COULD LEAD TO FURTHER WEST? IF WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT PRESENTED TO US? THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD SEE MORE JUST LOOKING AT COLORS DOESN'T. WASN'T THERE A PLAN TO FLATTEN THE HILL THAT'S IN THAT AREA? THAT'S ONE OF THEM, RIGHT? OH, THAT'S THAT'S FURTHER NORTH. YEAH. OH, JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE, WHERE THE BATTERY STORAGE IS GOING TO GO. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THERE ARE THAT'S

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THAT ONE IS JUST SHOWING THE AMOUNT OF, I THINK EXCAVATION PUT IN INDUSTRIAL WHERE THE TOPOGRAPHY IS AND WHERE IS THIS LOCATION? THIS IS THAT AREA RIGHT HERE. OKAY. SORRY. I GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO THIS IS JUST THAT. THIS IS ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE. THAT YELLOW IS JUST CHANGE COLORS. ALL THE REST OF THEM. YEAH. SO AND THEN THE PINK IS PURPLE. YEAH. PURPLE.

WHAT DOES TRANSITIONAL MEAN? TRANSITION. AND TRANSITIONAL. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT OKAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU. THANKS, CHRIS. SO WE JUST NAMED IT THAT. WE WE HAVE A LARGE COMMUNITY IN IN LEHIGH. IT'S BORDERED ON THE SOUTH FROM 2200 OR 2100 NORTH, WHICH IS THE HIGHWAY CONNECTING TO I-15 OUT TO EAGLE MOUNTAIN AND CAMP WILLIAMS. AND THEN FROM JORDAN RIVER UP ACROSS REDWOOD ROAD NEXT TO THE NSA CENTER. SO 680 ACRES. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF REDWOOD ROAD. SO WE JUST CALLED IT TRANSITIONAL.

AND, AND WE WE PUT THAT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH LEHIGH CITY BACK IN LIKE 2014 AND SAID, THERE'S X AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE HERE, SEWER CAPACITY, WATER CAPACITY. AND WE JUST CALCULATED AN E, R U FOR THAT AREA AND EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT. AND A OFFICE BUILDING IS X NUMBER OF ERAS AND INDUSTRIAL IS Y NUMBER OF ERAS AND A AND A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS Z NUMBER OF ERAS. RIGHT. SO AND THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S HOW WE DID THAT. I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT ABOUT THE SCALE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LARGE ONE THAT SHOWS THE OVERALL.

IT'S ABOUT 850 ACRES. YEAH, THIS IS FINE. THIS IS ROUGHLY 25% OF THE SIZE OF DAYBREAK.

JUST THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I SAID, NO ONE ELSE IS DOING THIS. THIS IS THE SCALE OF THIS IS REALLY MASSIVE. AND AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH I'LL JUST SOMETHING THAT'S RIGHT ON YOUR BORDER IS IVORY HIGHLANDS, RIGHT? SO 27TH WEST TO 3200, THE WEST JORDAN LINE TO 6200 SOUTH. THAT'S ABOUT 140 ACRES ROUGHLY. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

THAT'S JUST TO. SO THAT YOU CAN PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE. LIKE HOW DO YOU BUFFER THAT? WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? THINK ABOUT A QUARTER SECTION OF, OF LAND. THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN BUFFER IT. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS WE ARE ABSOLUTELY MINDFUL OF PUTTING RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL LIKE THAT. THAT'S OUR BUSINESS. AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO PUT AN IVORY HIGHLANDS NEXT TO 1,000,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING. RIGHT. YOU YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT. BUT WE DON'T WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MOVE UP THE HILL AND, AND DO IT. COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS SAYING. AND THAT IS TO TO DO SOME REALLY NICE HOUSING UNTIL THIS AREA MAY OR MAY NOT EVER COME INTO WEST JORDAN, MAY OR MAY NOT EVER DEVELOP. RIO TINTO'S BEEN THERE FOR 140 YEARS. WE DON'T TALKING ABOUT BUYING THAT. YEAH. THEY WELL THEY JUST ANNEXED YOU. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT ANNEXING THAT AREA. THEY ACTUALLY ANNEXED 2500 ACRES ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO IN WHAT'S CALLED THE LARK AREA. THERE USED TO BE A TOWN THERE CALLED LARK, AND THEY ANNEXED 2500 ACRES. RIO TINTO HAS DONE NOTHING SINCE 2023 WHEN THEY ANNEXED IT, MEANING THAT THEY HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T ADVANCED ANY ANY APPLICATIONS FOR IT.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS IN THAT CORNER, THE JORDAN SCHOOL DISTRICT STILL OWNS IT. IT'S PART OF THE LAND TRADE WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WITH OUR THE FUTURE HIGH SCHOOL SITE THAT'S ZONED R1 TEN. SO ACROSS HERE AND EVERYTHING AROUND THAT ISN'T IT. IT'S THE NEXT ONE. THE NEXT ONE YOU. 11 RIGHT. I'M TALKING ABOUT IT'S ON YOU. 111 RIGHT. THERE'S A, THERE'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE. 6000 RIGHT NEXT TO 6400 THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE ANTELOPE NEXT TO THE GRADE SCHOOL ELEMENTARY. YEAH. IT'S ZONED R1 TEN SCHOOL ZONE. WHAT'S THAT? I JUST WAS SAYING IT'S THE GENERAL PLAN. OR ACTUALLY ROSS HAS GOT AN APPLICATION HE'S GOING TO BRING IN GENERAL CALL GENERAL PLAN CALLS FOR IT TO BE A I THINK AN INSTITUTIONAL OR PUBLIC FACILITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE. BUT THE THE UNDERLYING ZONE IS STILL RESIDENTIAL IS R1 TEN. SO WE WANT YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF, OF, OF THAT AS WELL. WE'RE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF

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THAT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR 25 TO 30 ACRE COMMERCIAL CENTER THERE. ROOFTOPS ALWAYS PRECEDE THE RETAIL. I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU ALL OF THE, THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS RETAILER ARE OUR BEST CASE SCENARIOS. WE COULD OPEN A STORE IN 2030. THAT'S OUR ABSOLUTE BEST CASE SCENARIO, PROBABLY 2034. SO THINK ABOUT THE WINTER OLYMPICS. THAT'S WHEN A GROCER MAY. IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY. IT'S IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME IN, IN, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE ELEPHANT YEARS. I THINK IT'S STILL 1990. IS A DOG YEARS OR IS IT IS IT. SO THE OTHER THING AND, AND THE REASON WE LIKE THIS IS BECAUSE IT DOES REFLECT WHAT THE LANDOWNERS WANT. AND, AND THERE IS A HARD LINE HERE BETWEEN LANDOWNERS AND THE OTHER THING I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER IS THAT'S AN OPERATING GRAVEL PIT RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A 50 YEAR LIFE ON IT. THE GRAVEL PIT THAT'S ON 8200 SOUTH. THAT'S THE GRAVEL PIT THAT U111 HAS BEEN THERE 50 YEARS. I LITERALLY WAS ON THE ON A CALL WITH SACRED PARSONS WHEN YOU STARTED THIS CONVERSATION. THEY THINK THEY HAVE 20 MORE YEARS OF AGGREGATE. AND OUT OF THAT PIT, THOSE DON'T GO AWAY QUICKLY. THEY JUST THEY KEEP GOING FOR A LONG TIME. THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE A LONG TIME. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO OUTLIVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME SCALE SO THAT YOU COULD KIND OF PICTURE LIKE, OKAY, WHAT IS 140 ACRE LOT THAT'S STILL PRETTY BIG IN, IN OVERALL. SO I THINK WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A POSITION WHERE IN 12 YEARS WE'RE COMING BACK AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE LIKE, WELL, NO, NO, THAT COUNCIL IN 2026, THEY COULD SEE THE FUTURE.

AND WE CAN NEVER CHANGE NOW. RIGHT? SO WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO, WHEN WE STARTED THIS WHOLE EXERCISE, TALKING ABOUT AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS WE COULD GET, AND NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO.

VERY LITTLE FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT? ALSO, THE REASON I CAN IS THAT THAT PIT IS GOING TO BE FLAT AND I CAN KNOCK THE BERM DOWN AND MAKE THAT REALLY GOOD INDUSTRIAL BERM IS THERE TO BUFFER THE, THE OPERATING GRAVEL PIT. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY CAN DO SOMETHING. AND WE HAVE A USER FOR ABOUT 140 ACRES TODAY TO DO A VARIETY OF BUILDING SIZES. WE REALLY WANT TO GET GOING. TYPEKIT USE, WOULD IT BE OFFICE INDUSTRIAL? WE'LL START OFF WITH SOME ACTUALLY SOME SMALLER BUILDINGS AND MOVE UP TO ABOUT 300 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS IN THAT IN THAT AREA. SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CITY INITIATED ONE. I JUST DID ONE THING. IS THAT OKAY? SOMETHING JUST SUPER QUICK AND I APOLOGIZE. ONE THING THOUGH, YOU'LL NOTICE JUST A SLIGHT VARIATION ON THIS LINE. AND THE ONLY REASON FOR THE RIGHT ANGLE IS HAVING DONE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT SURE FITS BETTER IN A SQUARE. AND SO THAT'S JUST A VERY MINOR DETAIL. BUT THEY DON'T LIKE CURVY ROADS IN THERE. OKAY, IF YOU IMPROVE YOUR MAP, BUT JUST KNOW WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU ONE DAY TO PROBABLY DO SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T LIKE CURVY ROADS. WE'RE OKAY WITH THEM. AND THIS WON'T COME AS A SHOCK TO YOU, BUT I TEACH A CLASS, SO I GOT TO GO. SO SEE YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SURE. VERY MUCH. LIKE A TEACHER, ACTUALLY. YEAH. YEAH. THIS IS THIS IS FINE. SURE. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE TEACHES. HE TEACHES. HE TEACHES FINANCE IN THE MFA PROGRAM AT THE U. THE BUSINESS SCHOOL. OH, COOL. YEAH, MARK'S GOT TO DO IT. HE MARKS MARKS. HE'S A HE'S A GOOD DUDE. SWEET. HE ACTUALLY WAS MY INTERN LIKE 20 YEARS AGO. SO I TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR MARK. SO HERE'S, THIS IS WHERE THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE IS GOING AWAY. AND THAT'S OUR 110 AND, AND THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BRING THAT INTO TRAFFIC ISLANDS. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT OUT AS A SEPARATE, JUST LEAVE IT AS IS. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE TRADE TO GET THE 60 ACRES FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY. MAKES SENSE. SO WE'VE ALREADY TRADED 20 ACRES. THERE'S 20 ACRES THERE. THERE'S 20 ACRES IN HARRIMAN. THAT'S ANOTHER FUTURE MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TRADING THOSE PROPERTIES TO SO THAT THEY CAN ASSEMBLE A FUTURE HIGH SCHOOL SITE, WHICH I MEAN, I THAT IS. THE KIND OF AMENITY THAT IS FOR A CITY IS REMARKABLE TODAY. I

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MEAN, FIRST OFF, THEY LOOK LIKE JUNIOR COLLEGES AND THEY'RE THEY COST AS MUCH AS A JUNIOR COLLEGE, BUT THEY REALLY ARE AN INCREDIBLE GATHERING PLACE. AND WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A REALLY GOOD. WE'RE GIVING UP THOSE HOUSING UNITS. WE'RE TRADING THEM FOR OTHER HOUSING UNITS IN OTHER LOCATIONS. SO THOSE DON'T EVER GET BUILT IN DRY CREEK UNITS. BUT WE JUST SEE THE VALUE OF THAT AMENITY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHAT WHAT OUR WORRY IS, BY THE WAY, WE BUILT THOSE HOMES IN 2011. OH, IT'S YOUR FAULT. I DID NOT GET THAT ENTITLED. WELL, HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? DO WE KNOW WE BOUGHT THAT FROM A BANK BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER FAILED, AND WE BOUGHT THAT IN 2011 AND BUILT THOSE HOMES THEN, AND THERE WAS NOTHING AROUND. BUT THAT WAS ENTITLED IN 2007 BEFORE THE DOWNTURN. SO JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF THAT, WE DID BUILD THOSE HOMES. WE NEVER BLAMED IRA. WE WE BLAME THE COUNCIL FOR THE COUNCIL IN 2007. YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL, NOT PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, LOVE IT. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL I MEAN, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE LOVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. WE'RE ESPECIALLY NOW THEY DON'T MIND HAVING WAREHOUSE NOW THAT THE DAN AND SMELL IS GONE TOO. YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S GONE. BUT BUT THIS IF WE WERE IF YOU WERE TO ADOPT THIS MAP, THE FATAL FLAW. THIS IS WE COME BACK IN TEN YEARS, WE'RE LIKE, WE WANT THIS. AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE'RE. AND THIS GUY'S STILL SAYING, I DON'T WANT THAT. AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE OF THIS, IS THAT THAT THIS IS BEING BIFURCATED. SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ANY KIND OF REZONE OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN HERE, WE THEY WILL BE STANDALONE, THEY WILL BE BIFURCATED. AND SO OUR CONCERN IS TO LOOK AT THIS. AND IF YOU WERE TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT OR HERE'S WHAT YOU WANT. 11 SO HERE'S THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT. THEN WE'D SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THIS AND WAIT FOR ANOTHER DAY FOR WHAT HAPPENS UP HERE, WHICH WE WILL DO ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT IMMINENT. IT'S ALL IN ZONE SEVEN, RIGHT? THAT COULD BE TWO YEARS OR 20 YEARS. WE DON'T KNOW. WE, WE PUT IN, WE, WE ARE, BY THE WAY, OUR WE DID ALL THE PROPOSAL FOR THE, FOR THE HB 492 MONEY. WE PUT ALL THE DATA TOGETHER AND, AND THE PROPOSAL, THE CITY FINISHED IT UP AND SENT IT IN ON FRIDAY FOR REALLY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE. WE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE FOR BOTH OF US AND GARDENERS AND, AND THE OTHER PARTIES. SO WE'RE WE'RE TOTALLY YOKED WITH YOU ON THAT. AND WE COULD SEE THE ZONE SEVEN TANK BEING BUILT IN 3 TO 5 YEARS. IT'S ACTUALLY A REAL POSSIBILITY NOW. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OR INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE LANDOWNERS WEST OF THE CITY BOUNDARY MAY OR MAY NOT DO IN THE FUTURE? YEAH. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S ALL RIO TINTO. OKAY. I, I DO ACTUALLY, I HAVE A PROJECT IN MAGNA. THEY'RE A SMALL TOWN, SO THE MSD DOES ALL THEIR ENGINEERING PLANNING, THE MSD. IN FACT, I JUST MET WITH THEM THIS MORNING ON MY PROJECT, BUT WE GOT TALKING ABOUT WEST JORDAN. THEY'RE ASKING ME ABOUT WEST JORDAN BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER CITIES THEY WORK WITH IS COPPERTON, AND THE MSDS LONG RANGE PLANNER IS WORKING ON A PLAN WITH COPPERTON. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RIO TINTO TO THE TABLE, BUT THEIR GOAL IS TO EXPAND THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. THEY HAVE MORE DENSITY THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE BECAUSE THEIR HOPE IS THAT IF THEY GET ENOUGH DENSITY ENOUGH PEOPLE OUT THERE, THEN THEY COULD GET A STORE OR A GAS STATION. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE CURRENTLY THEY HAVE, I THINK THERE'S LIKE A KIND OF QUASI BAR MEXICAN RESTAURANT OUT THERE. NOW THAT WILL TAKE SOME COORDINATION AND COOPERATION. BUT WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE RIO TINTO HAS 90,000 ACRES UP AND OVER THE OCHERS, ABOUT 30,000 OF WHICH IS DEVELOPABLE. AND IN THE EARLY 2000, THERE WAS A FULL ON MASTER PLANNING EXERCISE FOR OKRA MOUNTAIN. IT WAS NEVER EXECUTED BY THE COUNTY BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND RIO TINTO. RIO TINTO THEN ELIMINATED THEIR THEIR GROUP THAT THEY CALLED KENNECOTT LAND SIMPLY DOESN'T. IT STOPPED EXISTING IN ABOUT 2007 SIX. AND THEN THEY PUT FENCES UP ALL THE WAY AROUND. IN FACT, THEY JUST GOT ALL THE WAY AROUND TERRAIN, BUT THEY JUST PUT UP FENCES AND RAZOR WIRE ALL THE WAY AROUND TERRAIN, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I CAN'T GO TAKE PICTURES ON THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS ANYMORE. YEAH, YEAH. THEY PUT A, THEY, THEY, THEY PUT A FENCE UP, BUT THEY HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP IN THE LAND

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AND WATER GROUP. AND I THINK THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN DO THAT. YOU'D HAVE TO ULTIMATELY THEY'RE MINING COMPANY HEADQUARTERED IN LONDON. LIKE THAT'S THE REALITY IS, IS THAT'S WHO THAT'S WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. BUT BUT THIS ONE CONCERNS US THE WAY THAT IT'S DRAWN BECAUSE IT, IT, IT, I'D BE FINE IF IT SAID TRANSITION ZONE. AND WE HAD AN AIR ACCOUNT AND WE WORKED IT OUT WITH GREG AND ENGINEERING AND SAID, HERE'S THE, HERE'S, HERE'S YOUR CONNECTIONS, HERE'S YOUR EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT. IF IT'S INDUSTRIAL, HERE'S YOUR AIR, YOU IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE MARKET WILL DECIDE THAT WHEN THE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, IN FIVE, TEN, 20 YEARS. AND WE'RE NOT JUST PIGEONHOLED INTO INTO A THING THAT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I JUST WANT TO SEE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISLAND ON ITS OWN. YEAH. RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT. IT'S BIG ENOUGH THAT IT'S A CONTINENT. IT'S LIKE AUSTRALIA, TECHNICALLY AN ISLAND, BUT THAT'S A FAIR. YEAH. YEAH. NO, AND THAT WAS OUR WORRY. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER MAPS YOU SENT US, IT LOOKED EVEN MORE LIKE AN ISLAND WHEN IT WAS SITTING THERE. YEAH. AND I WILL I WILL SAY, AND THE REASON I TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THIS MAP, I CAN'T REALLY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE MAP WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH. THE MAP YOU SHOWED US IS THE MAP. I KIND OF THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE PROBABLY, PROBABLY GETTING WHAT I'M AT LEAST A LITTLE GRATEFUL FOR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DID KIND OF WHAT I WAS SAYING, SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP THIS STUFF TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO THIS STUFF SO THAT KNOWING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP CLOSER. AND I NICELY SAID, STRONG ARMED. I, YOU KNOW, JUST KNOWING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SAY, DO WHAT'S GOING TO BE WORKED BEST AND EASIEST FOR YOU IN THAT REGARD. I, I CAN KIND OF SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD INTO THE MAP YOU SHOWED US. I MY GOAL WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CREEK DIDN'T GO. YEAH. OTHER STUFF. SO IT WASN'T ABOUT YOU BEING THE CREEK. I KNEW THAT AND I SAID THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THIS PENINSULA THAT COMES OUT HERE, THERE'S A BIG FLAT SPOT. THAT'S WHERE THE JAZZ PLAYERS ARE GOING TO LIVE, BECAUSE IT'S NICE AND FLAT OUT THERE. AND THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY WHO SAID THAT. YOU SAID THAT THAT'S WHERE THE JAZZ PLAYERS ARE GOING TO BE FOR 15 YEARS. YEAH, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ONE. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR THANKS FOR. THE JAZZ HAVE GONE THROUGH A LET HIM GET BACK ON TOP AND THEN WE CAN START SELLING. HAVING HEARD FROM FROM MR. AMBROSE. I AGAIN, WE WANT TO JUST GET SOME SOME CLARITY FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHAT SORT OF MAP, IF ANY, YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOR US TO PROCEED WITH. WE'RE AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS POLICY, RIGHT. AND AND IF WE WERE TO CHANGE TO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WAS UP ON THE SCREEN A MINUTE AGO. I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO IT, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S PRETTY IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC ON TRANSITION AND BUFFER. IF THAT'S NOT AND MAYBE WE TRANSITION AND BUFFER IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU GO THAT DIRECTION. RIGHT.

SO WE JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE SHIFTING DOWN. SO ANYWAY, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF WE GOT SOME CLARITY FROM FROM COUNCIL. HOW DO YOU WANT THIS. DID YOU SAY THERE WAS ANOTHER MAP THOUGH? NO, THAT WAS THE THREE. THAT WAS THE ZOOMED IN THREE DIFFERENT COLORS. YEAH. THIS IS JUST THE VICKI JONES. RIGHT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE.

ORDINANCE. AND THIS ISN'T WHAT IS RATIO 7520 7525 NOT. IF YOU AGAIN, THE RATIO IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE TO 75, 25 OR WHATEVER THIS MIGHT BE, WELL, THEN YOU COULD TWEAK THIS. YOU COULD TWEAK IT TO BE 80, 20. RIGHT. YES. THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM IN THERE.

WELL, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING 5%. YEAH. IF YOU COULD TALK THEM INTO THAT OR YOU CAN TALK THEM INTO, I DON'T KNOW, MAKING THE YELLOW ON THE TOP RIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. ADD 2 OR 3 ACRES TO THAT 59. IS IT RIGHT? THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THE HOUSE NEEDS TO BE WHAT IT'S MEANT TO BE A TRANSIT. THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN ANY POTENTIAL NUISANCES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEY INSERTED A RESIDENTIAL BUFFER TRANSITION.

SO THAT. RIGHT, LARRY, YOU'RE THE ONE WROTE THE CODE. SO IS THAT THE REASON YOU LIKE THIS BETTER IS BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY. YEAH. THE HOUSING. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THAT WEST

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PART OF THE CITY THERE, THAT WESTERN HILLSIDE WITH THOSE, IT'S LIKE TERRAIN. IT'S IT IT WOULD BE I THINK IT WOULD BE TERRAIN SOUTH IS WHAT I THAT'S IF I WAS THE DEVELOPER, THAT'S WHAT I'D CALL IT. SO SOUTH. SOMETHING LIKE TERRAIN SOUTH THAT YOU COULD EVEN DO IT. YOU COULD EVEN DO IT BETTER. WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE THAT HAS THE. SO ARE WE BETTER? YEAH.

ARE ARE WE MOVING MORE TOWARDS THE OTHER MAP? 39 ACRES. I'D LIKE TO. MAYBE. IF THAT. THAT ROAD, THE BEND OF 90TH. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY THAT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THAT BEND RIGHT THERE.

IT'S IT'S THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE GRADE. RIGHT. AND IT ALSO MATCHES THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS WELL. OKAY. IT'S A TRANSPORTATION. SO THAT FITS THE, THE BEND RIGHT THERE FITS THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND. RIGHT. AND THE TMP DOES ANTICIPATE IT CONTINUING ALONG THIS ALIGNMENT RIGHT HERE. SO PUTTING HAVING A BEING RESIDENTIAL MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. ALL OF THAT, WHEN THIS BUFFER HOUSING WAS PUT INTO PLAY, AT LEAST I WAS FRESH OFF THE. APPROVAL OF JONES RANCH AND I WANTED TO PROTECT THE. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE 90TH THERE SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, I. AND LIKE CORBIN SAID EARLIER, THERE WILL BE A HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT HERE AND HAVING. WELL, HAVING RESIDENTIAL AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL ALSO MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. BECAUSE THERE'S NO FIREWORKS. FAIRPOINT. I AM STILL IN FAVOR OF THIS MAP. I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I JUST KNOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. YEAH, AND I FEEL THE SAME. SO, I MEAN, I'M FAVORING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO LAST. THEN WHAT DO WE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MAKES ME. WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT CHRIS'S POINT, THOUGH, THAT IF DEVELOPMENT STARTS AND THEN WE'RE LOCKED INTO THIS PERCENTAGE, THEN IT DOESN'T GIVE FLEXIBILITY DOWN THE ROAD. THERE'S ALWAYS FLEXIBILITY.

IT'S A LIVING MAP AND WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THAT PERCENTAGE AS A COUNCIL AS WELL. IF WE NEEDED TO. I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT WE COULD. SO AND SO. SO THE APPLICANT'S NOT LEFT IN LIMBO. APPLICANTS OR LANDOWNERS WHO SAY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT APPLICANT. I THINK THAT WHATEVER MAP YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE, YOU APPROVE IT. THEN THE REST OF THEM COME BACK BASED ON AN APPLICATION. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT FOLLOWS THE PROCESS. THEN IT'S A FORMAL PROCESS FOR WHEN THEY ASK FOR CHANGES TO THE LAND USE MAP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, SCOTT, BUT I THINK I BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD GO AFTER THIS IS ADOPTED.

THAT'S WHAT OUR ROAD MAP, WHICH WE WE SKIPPED PAST, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOULD BE, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. WE WANT WE WANT IVORY. WE'VE GOT ONE GARDENER TO MOVE AHEAD AND DEVELOP WHAT IS RIGHT AT THE MOMENT AND. YEAH, HERE'S THE LAYOUT HERE.

WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2022. JUST SO WE WE ARE HERE. SO, SO SO THE GOAL WE HAD WAS TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE SMALL AREA PLAN, WHICH IS NOT A BINDING MAP, BUT THEN THAT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION. COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL. AFTER THAT, IT'S NOT A REZONE. THE PROPERTY IS STILL ZONED. A 20 IVORY GARDENER, WHOEVER IT IS, WILL COME IN HERE FOR A REASON, WHICH WILL REQUIRE MASTER DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AGREEMENT, LEGISLATIVE DECISION. ALL OF THE POWER STILL RESIDES WITH THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT. NOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE SMALL AREA PLAN IS TO KIND OF SET THAT VISION FOR WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE DENSITIES, HELPS GREG TO HIS PLANNING, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO COME HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR PRETTY MAPS. I THINK WHEN THEY COME IN WITH A PROPOSAL, IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE THAN A SQUARE BLOCK, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THAT, AND THEY'LL MAKE THE CASE FOR WHY THIS PLAN MAYBE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND YOU AS A COUNCIL CAN THEN APPROVE IT. SO WE'RE NOT LOCKING INTO THIS,

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BUT WE ARE SETTING THE STAGE. WE'RE STARTING THE STARTING POINT FOR THE CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. WE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR CONVERSATION BEGINS. I LOOK AT THIS AS HERE'S WHERE OUR CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH. THIS IS THAT THIS IS WRONG. THEY ARE VERY SMART.

THEY HAVE VERY GOOD CONSULTANTS. I THINK THEY CAN SHOW US WHY WE'RE WRONG AND THEY CAN MAKE THE CASE WHY WE MESSED UP HERE. AND I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT LET'S HELP US KNOW WHERE THE CONVERSATION SHOULD START. LET'S GIVE THEM SOMETHING. I'D BE MORE. I'D LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE ANOTHER SITE VISIT AND, AND GO OUT AND ACTUALLY SEE THAT ESPECIALLY THE BUBBLE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT MR. GRAHAM WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE WHERE THE TOPOGRAPHY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR COMMERCIAL OR RATHER INDUSTRIAL USE, I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY HAVE MY FEET ON THE GROUND OUT THERE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE. THIS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WHY THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR INDUSTRIAL AND, AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE DIRECTED AT YOU. HOW CAN HOW COULD THAT BUBBLE FIT IN WITH WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE FURTHER WEST OF WHERE THE CITY EVEN EXISTS CURRENTLY? THAT'S THAT'S BEFORE I ADOPT THIS, I'D BE EXCUSE ME BEFORE I VOTE TO ADOPT THAT. I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF I HAD A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION IN THAT REGARD. OKAY. OKAY. AT THAT POINT, WE REACHED OUT TO ALLEN TO, TO START PLANNING SUCH A VISIT TO NOT JUST THIS AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT OTHER AREAS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA PREVIOUS. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE IN THE GENERAL AREA BEFORE, BUT WHAT'S FURTHER NORTH? RIGHT. YEAH. IF WE CAN GET IN ON THAT AND UP HERE, MAYBE, MAYBE YOU HAVE A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE TRUCK OR SOMETHING, WE CAN GET UP AND REALLY SEE THAT AREA. ACTUALLY, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. YEAH, YEAH.

THE SOUTH OF THE TWO WASHES. SO WE WERE ACTUALLY FURTHER NORTH OF THAT, WHICH IS WEIRD BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. IT'S NOT. IT'S OKAY.

SO ARE WE OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DENSITY ARRANGEMENT, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE DENSITY. YEAH. MY POINTS WERE MADE THAT YEAH, WE'RE APPROVING THAT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO CHANGE. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CHANGES IN THE WAY THAT I SPOKE. JUST CREEPS. NO CREEPS, NO CREEP ZONE. AND AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE WORKING TOWARD WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST USE OF THAT LAND THAT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY BRING IN. I'M NOT LOOKING TO BRING IN THE BEST HOUSES. I'M LOOKING TO BRING IN THE BEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING WHERE OUR RESIDENTIAL IS SOMETHING THAT IS A BENEFIT TO THOSE, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT COULD WHERE WE CAN BLEND THE WILL OF THE CITY WITH THE WILL OF THE DEVELOPER TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. YEAH. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE, MOVE FORWARD WITH SMALL AREA PLAN APPROVAL. I MEAN, IS IT YES OR IS IT WAIT, IT'S BRING IT FORWARD. THAT'S JUST BRINGING THAT ALLOWS US TO PREPARE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

OKAY. OKAY. RIGHT. THE ONLY PART THAT WE'RE NOT IS THE FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE WE'RE READY TO SEND THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WELL, NO, THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO COME BACK FOR. WELL, I GUESS. YEAH, YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE SITE. IS IT PRIOR TO. I MEAN WE COULD WE COULD START. WELL I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT BINDING. THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. YEAH THAT'S THAT WAS THE POINT I'M MAKING. WE'RE APPROVING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO LAST. OKAY. I GUESS THE COUNTERARGUMENT IS WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS AT ALL. YEAH. NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M. APPROVING A GUIDING DOCUMENT. IT'S A GUIDING DOCUMENT. ARE YOU LIKE A ROADMAP? YEAH. WHAT WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE CHANGES AND GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM TO COME BACK TO YOU? AND MAYBE INDEPENDENT OF YOU AS WELL, SO THAT THEY'RE GIVING YOU A RECOMMENDATION. WE'VE BEEN IN LIMBO HERE. WE'D REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE WE JUST NEED TO START. YEAH. SO WE JUST NEED TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. ARE YOU OKAY

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WITH THAT VICE CHAIR IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW, THE ADOPTION OF THIS WILL BE ORCHESTRATE A SITE VISIT. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY. OKAY. CINDY. YEAH. WE NEED TO SUMMARIZE. KIND OF SAID WHAT I SAID. THIS IS NOW REZONED. CINDY. I THINK WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THIS ROAD MAP, BUT THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT BINDING. AND THEN A SITE VISIT WILL BE ARRANGED. BUT THE EXCLAMATION OF JOY WAS BECAUSE IT CAN NOW MOVE TO PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S FINE TO GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT AN INTERESTING BUSINESS YOU'RE IN. FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IF YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC, WE CAN

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TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS AND TALK ABOUT TOURS OF SOME AREAS WITH THE COUNCIL, IF THAT'S OKAY. SURE. WE GOT EVERYTHING WE NEED ON THIS ONE. YEAH, I THINK WELL, DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED? I'M JUST MAKING SURE MISS QUICK HAS EVERYTHING SHE HAS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE REST OF US, SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ONE LAST COMMENT ON THIS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE 80/20 RATIO THAT YOU DECIDED LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S GOOD DIRECTION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT SACRIFICE DESIGN AND LAND USE, GOOD LAND USE PRINCIPLES AND LAND USE PLANNING. BECAUSE OF THE RATIO. GOOD POINT. SO KEEP JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE RATIO IS SOME GUIDANCE. YEAH BUT THE RATIO SHOULDN'T BE A HARD AND FAST RULE AT THE SACRIFICE OF AWKWARD COMPATIBLE USES OR DESIGNS. DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOURS, YOU JUST TELL ME WHEN AND I'LL TAKE YOU OUT MY TRUCK. I'LL BE AVAILABLE. DO YOU HAVE A TUNDRA? RIGHT. YOU DRIVE A TUNDRA. IT'S A LITTLE TRUCK. HEY, ROSS. THAT'S. WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS DOING A TOUR OF THE NORTH WEST AREA.

NORTHWEST QUADRANT. THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, AND JUST DO A TEST DRIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AT LEADERSHIP MEETING ON FRIDAY WITH WITH COUNCIL LEADERSHIP, ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT STARTED WITH THE NORTHWEST AREA. THANK YOU, WAS LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TUESDAY. NEXT TUESDAY. THE 29TH IS THE FIFTH TUESDAY AND TYPICALLY ON THE ANNUAL CALENDAR. THAT IS A LATER COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. LEADERSHIP HAS ASKED US NOT TO PLAN ANYTHING ON THAT DATE, SO WE'RE PREPARED TO CANCEL THAT SCHEDULED COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. BUT ON FRIDAY, THE IDEA WAS MAYBE THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED COULD MEET. IF WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE CAN DO A NOTICE OF POTENTIAL QUORUM. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MINUTES ON A TOUR. AND OUR IDEA IS TO MAYBE START AT THE NEW PARK, MAPLE HILLS PARK OUT HERE. AND WE GATHERED THERE AT A TIME THAT'S CONVENIENT FOR ALL OF YOU. 430 5:00 FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WORKS. AND WE CAN INITIALLY START WITH KIND OF A LOOK AT THE NORTHWEST AREA AND THE TOPOGRAPHY, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THE 13TH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 111. AND THE HARPER PIT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS COME TO YOU. SO WE COULD SPEND SOME TIME THERE, AND THEN WE COULD GO TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. I COULD WORK WITH ROSS AND AND CHRIS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALAN, IF I CAN INTERJECT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO MEET AT MAPLE HILLS PARK. I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THIS AREA, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE TIP OF THE TRIANGLE WITH SENATE HILLS. I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THIS AREA FROM HERE. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO KIND OF COME TO THE EDGE OF DAYS DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THEY STARTED BUILDING SOME ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. LOOK OUT HERE, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO COME UP TO THIS POINT. YOU CAN DRIVE RIGHT TO THIS POINT AND LOOK DOWN THIS HILL RIGHT HERE. THAT'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD SENSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE ROAD LAYOUT, BECAUSE WE WANT 64TH WEST TO CLIMB UP THERE. SO I THINK THIS NORTHWEST QUADRANT TOUR NEEDS TO NOT JUST LOOK AT IT FROM THE SOUTH LOOKING NORTH. AND THEN IF WE'RE HERE, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO AT LEAST DRIVE THROUGH THE COUNTY PROJECT AND LOOK AT THE COUNTY LAND THAT WILL COME INTO OUR CITY. SO COMING TO US JULY OF NEXT YEAR, SORRY, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING THAT WE HAD BEFORE WHEN WE DID THE OTHER ANNEXATION WITH WE HAVE A YEAR OF PROPERTY TAX LAG ON THAT. YES, THAT'LL BE FUN. CAN WE GET OUR NEW LEGISLATOR TO WORK ON

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THAT? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I HAPPEN TO KNOW HIM. IT WAS NOT ELECTED YET. SORRY. I GUESS I'M JUMPING. SO WE CAN DO WE CAN DO THE THE NORTHWEST AREA. WE CAN DO THE NEWLY ANNEXED AREA THAT WILL COME IN JULY 1ST, AND WE CAN DO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT PROBABLY A COUPLE HOURS. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO JUST ASK, DOES NEXT TUESDAY AFTERNOON, LATE AFTERNOON, DOES THAT WORK FOR THE FIVE OF YOU? AND I'LL CONTACT THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS. YEAH. AND DO YOU WANT TO START AT FOUR OR DO YOU WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THAT PIZZA OR SOMETHING? AND CAN WE START AT FIVE? WE CAN START AT FIVE IF THAT'S WHAT STARTS TO GET DARK.

SO WE JUST HAVE FIVE MINUTES DARK ABOUT 730. YEAH. WELL, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WE CAN DO FOUR. WE CAN DO FOR YOU WANT TO DO FOUR. IS THAT WORK AT 430 OR NEXT TO THE OTHER TWO THAT ARE NOT HERE. I CAN WALK UP. YEAH. YOU COULD, YOU CAN WALK. WE CAN BRING CARS SO THAT WE CAN DRIVE AROUND THE PLACE. YEAH. I'LL WORK WITH CORBETT AND THEN I'LL TALK TO CHRIS AND, AND ROSS WITH IVORY ON HOW WE CAN GET ON TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS JUST TALKING WITH OUR PLUS, AND THEY WANT TO SHOW US THE PROPERTY AS WELL. OKAY, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO TUESDAY, TUESDAY. RIGHT. DID I SAY FRIDAY? YEAH, YEAH. TUESDAY.

TUESDAY THE 29TH. SORRY. THANK YOU. TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH. AND IF THERE'S FIVE OF YOU, THEN WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL POST A NOTICE OF POTENTIAL QUORUM AND WE'LL CANCEL THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. SO YOU'LL SEE TWO AGENDAS. OKAY. THAT'S JUST WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE YOU'VE ADOPTED IT FOR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. SO WE'LL CANCEL THAT MEETING AND THEN DO A NOTICE OF NOTICE OF QUORUM. AND THEN WE CAN JUST DO A TOUR. SO WE'LL WORK ON SCHEDULING THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. THREE THE THREE SITES NORTHWEST ANNEX, SOUTHWEST. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'LL BE FUN. OKAY. 4:00. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL PROBABLY SEE THOSE AGENDAS TOMORROW. OKAY. IF THERE'S LEFTOVER TIME, THAT'S A PRETTY FULL AGENDA. I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE LEFT OVER TIME, BUT IF THERE IS LEFTOVER TIME, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO EITHER SOME OF THE CARS OR ALL OF US IF WE HAVE SPARE TIME. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO TERRAIN IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. IT'S CHANGING QUICKLY. YES, THEY'RE BUILDING QUICKLY AND IT'S WORTH DRIVING UP THROUGH TERRAIN JUST TO GET A SENSE OF HOW QUICKLY THAT AREA IS DEVELOPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROGRESS THEY'RE MAKING, THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE COMING TOGETHER. SO NICE. IT IS. AND, AND IT MIGHT BE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING IF WE HAVE TIME TO DO THE. THE LDS CHURCH HAS PULLED THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THEIR FOR THEIR TEMPLE. IT'S IN REVIEW RIGHT NOW. OKAY, SO THEY DID SOME, SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REVISIONS. IT WENT QUIET FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE NOW HAVE IT IN REVIEWER. SO IF WE CAN GET TO RAIN AFTER.

THAT'LL BE KIND OF OUR. CORBIN KEEPS TRYING TO KEEP US AWAY FROM THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.

THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME. MORE AND MORE OF. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL. I HAVE.

HOLIDAY OIL OUT THERE HAS GOT AN ICE CREAM COUNTER WITH BLUE BUNNY ICE CREAM. WHAT IT IS OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HOLIDAY ON 62ND WEST AND I'VE GOT A DRIVE THROUGH. I GOT A DRIVE THROUGH.

I'M SORRY. A DRIVE THROUGH DRIVE THROUGH AND YOU CAN GET ICE CREAM IN THE DRIVE THROUGH.

YEP. YES. IT'S AWESOME. NOW THAT'S AN INNOVATION. THERE'S ALSO A BLUE BELT ON 13TH AND 90TH. WHAT DRIVE THROUGH. OH YEAH. IT'S BY IT'S FOR THURSDAY'S FIRST. ALSO CALLED BLUE MOON ICE CREAM. AND NEXT DOOR IS THURSDAY. YES. CHAIR IS READY TO STRIKE A. YEAH. IS IT SEEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. IT IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Discussion Topics

a. Discussion of Proposed Rezone and Future Land Use Map Amendment for Vista Farms

b. Discussion of Northwest Area Plan for the Area Between U-111, Mountain View Corridor, 6600 South, and 7800 South (Oneleven, Harper Pit, Senna Hills/HCA)

c. Continued Discussion and Staff-Led Planning Efforts for the Southwest Quadrant (SWQ) Regarding Residential Density and Development

Sep 22, 2026 Committee of the Whole

Discussion Topics

a. Discussion of Proposed Rezone and Future Land Use Map Amendment for Vista Farms

b. Discussion of Northwest Area Plan for the Area Between U-111, Mountain View Corridor, 6600 South, and 7800 South (Oneleven, Harper Pit, Senna Hills/HCA)

c. Continued Discussion and Staff-Led Planning Efforts for the Southwest Quadrant (SWQ) Regarding Residential Density and Development

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