[Regular Meeting] [00:00:04] RECORDING IN PROGRESS. WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO THE WEST JORDAN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR OCTOBER 6TH, 2026. WE'D LIKE TO EXCUSE COMMISSIONERS GONZALES, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. FIRST OFF IS ITEM NUMBER ONE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH IS GOING TO LEAD US. SO PLEASE RISE AND SAY RECITE THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. [a. Approve Meeting Minutes September 15, 2026 – Planning Commission Work Session September 15, 2026 – Planning Commission Regular Meeting] THANK YOU EVERYBODY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AND THAT'S APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR BOTH THE WORK SESSION AND REGULAR MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 15TH. DO I HAVE ANY MOTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I JUST WANT TO NOTE AGAIN HOW GREAT THESE MINUTES HAVE BEEN. IT'S CONCISE, EASY TO READ AND VERY WELL DESCRIBES THE MEETING. SO HAVING NOT BEEN HERE LAST WEEK, IT WAS EASY TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK. SO THANK YOU FOR THREE WEEKS AGO. ANYWAY, YOU GET THE IDEA. BUT MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ACKER, I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, I ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT WILL CARRY FOR NOTHING. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS OUR [a. Sugar Factory on the Creek Townhomes; 1790 West Sugar Factory Road; Preliminary Site Plan and Preliminary Major Subdivision; CC-R Zone; Proposal by the Applicant; [Mark Forsythe/Nate Nelson/Angelica Haro/Mike Jensen #35708, #35709; parcels 21-34-181-005, 21-34-181-001, 21-34-180-001]] BUSINESS ITEMS. FIRST OFF, PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH FINAL ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THAT IS FOR SUGAR FACTORY ON THE CREEK TOWNHOMES, 1790 WEST SUGAR FACTORY ROAD. IT'S A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND PRELIMINARY MAJOR SUBDIVISION AND A CC ZONE. AND IF YOU'RE HERE TO REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS OR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU'D COME UP AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS BRANDON WIXOM. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT. I'LL BE BRIEF. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN HERE. IT'S BEEN A YEAR OR SO THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, SO WE SHOULD BE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT. WHEN WE DID THE ZONE CHANGE, WE HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT FROM FROM YOU GUYS AND WENT ON AND AND GOT APPROVAL TO DO IT. SO NOW WE'RE BACK HERE, BASICALLY THE THE VICINITY IS JUST RIGHT BEHIND US. JUST TAKE A RIGHT ON REDWOOD ROAD AND A RIGHT ON SUGAR FACTORY AND IT'S RIGHT THERE. AND THIS WHOLE PROJECT, WE JUST WANTED IT TO BE A REALLY NICE PROJECT, A PLACE WHERE 23 FAMILIES COULD OWN IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. THERE'S A LOT OF AMENITIES HERE CLOSE BY THE PARKS, THE TRACKS, AND WE THINK ALSO MAKING BINGHAM CREEK PART OF THE PROJECT AND MAKING IT REALLY STICK OUT TO HAVE A PARK AND AN A NICE, A NICE ASSET FOR THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE RATHER THAN TREAT IT JUST LIKE IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THAT CREEK'S IN THE BACK, LET IT GATHER TRASH. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MARK AND THE STAFF TO MAKE IT A REALLY, REALLY COOL PLACE. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU HERE IN THE SITE PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT WILL GO ACROSS. THERE'S GOING TO BE PATHWAYS AND TRAILS, AND WE'VE EVEN DONATED A PIECE OF THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY FOR A FUTURE PATH THAT MIGHT GO ALONG THERE TO CONNECT. I FORGET THE NAME OF THE TRAIL, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRAIL THAT CONNECTS CLOSER TO THE TO THE TRACK STATION. LET'S SEE. LET'S LOOK AT THE OH YEAH, WE'RE ALREADY AT THE SITE PLAN. SO IN HERE, THERE'S THE THERE'S 23 FOR SALE HOMES IN HERE. WE'VE ALSO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CREEK AND WE PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE CIRCULATION, TO THE PARKING, TO PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT AND EMERGENCY ACCESS. WE'VE WORKED WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT REVIEW COMMITTEES AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND WHATNOT. WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORS, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF THOSE. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYBODY, THE NEIGHBORS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE [00:05:03] BUILDING ELEVATIONS. WE WANTED TO TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT THAT LOOKED LIKE IT BELONGED HERE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A FARMHOUSE, BUT IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF A LOT OF NEAT FEATURES TO IT. WE HAVE DECKS, WE HAVE BIG WINDOWS, LIGHTS, AND JUST IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY, REALLY NICE PROJECT. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, HERE'S THE THE SUBDIVISION PLAT. AND THAT HAS EVERYTHING THERE. THERE'S. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, THE COUNTY WANTED TO HAVE AN EASEMENT AND WE'VE PROVIDED EASEMENT ACCESS, AND WE'RE GOING TO FENCE AROUND THIS AREA AND JUST MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. TONIGHT. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY LATER ON WE'LL CALL YOU UP. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MARK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO JUST REAL, I'M GOING TO BE EVEN MORE BRIEF, BUT JUST KIND OF A QUICK POINTS TO TOUCH ON. SO JUST GOING OVER THE ZONING, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CCR ZONE, WHICH IS CITY, CITY CENTER RESIDENTIAL ZONE THAT WAS REZONED JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO BY THE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S ALSO LOCATED IN A TRANSIT STATION OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH IS CONDUCIVE TO PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT. SO. AFTER GOING THROUGH THIS REVIEW, WE WE FEEL THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE MET THE INTENT OF BOTH THOSE ZONES AND FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD BE A GOOD FIT. AND IN ADDITION TO THE REZONE THAT WAS APPROVED, THERE WAS ALSO A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. THAT KIND OF DETAILS THE THE BASIC CONCEPT, THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER, OPEN SPACE, WALKABILITY, THAT KIND OF THING. SO A LOT OF THE LEGWORK HAS REALLY BEEN DONE ALREADY BEFORE IT WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE DETAILS FOR THE MOST PART. SO JUST LAST POINT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON WAS SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THIS CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION A FEW MONTHS AGO. BUT FIRST ONE IS SOME OF THE PARKING. THE CITY COUNCIL HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH PARKING, AND SO THERE WAS SOME EXTRA PROVISIONS PUT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ENSURE THAT PARKING WOULDN'T BECOME AN ISSUE. AND SO ONE OF THOSE IS PUTTING GUEST ONLY PARKING SIGNS IN FRONT OF THE PARKING STALLS THERE. THE OTHER IS SOME PROVISIONS IN THE CORNERS, JUST DETAILING THAT GARAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR PARKING CARS AND THAT THEY CAN STORE THINGS THERE, BUT THEY DO NEED TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR TWO VEHICLES. AND THEN AS BRANDON MENTIONED EARLIER, YEAH, THEY WILL BE DEDICATING A PORTION OF LAND TO THE CITY FOR THE NEW BINGHAM CREEK TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO RUN ALONG THE TRACKS LINE THERE. SO THAT THAT WILL HELP TO TO FACILITATE THAT. AND THEN JUST THE LAST POINT, THE FENCING, THEY'VE GOT A MASONRY WALL THAT'S GOING TO RUN ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY LINE THERE. ONE THING WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IS JUST TO KEEP THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL A LITTLE BIT LOWER WITHIN 20FT OF THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK, JUST SO THE NEIGHBORS CAN SEE ONCOMING TRAFFIC AS THEY'RE BACKING OUT. SO. THEN THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE FINAL SITE PLAN, FINAL MAJOR SUBDIVISION, AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND ALL OF THOSE WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. AND WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF BOTH THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ALLEN? THANK YOU. MARK, DID YOU ADDRESS OR COMMENT JUST A LITTLE BIT ON IN THE BACKGROUND MEMO? THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ACCESS NEEDING TO HAVE A PUBLIC EASEMENT OVER THE TOP OF IT. FOR LEGAL PURPOSES. IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, WHICH YOU COMMENT ON THAT. YES. SO LET ME GO BACK TO SITE PLAN THERE. SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ENTRANCE OR, OR THROUGHOUT THE PRIVATE LANE? IT TALKS ABOUT LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL IT BACK UP HERE. TOWARD THE BOTTOM. THE PURPOSES OF DEFINING LEGAL ACCESS, THE PRIVATE LANE IS PLOTTED AS A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT WITH A PRIVATE STORM DRAIN, SEWER AND WATERLINE EASEMENT. YEAH. SO WE'LL BE WORKING OUT A LOT OF [00:10:04] THOSE DETAILS THROUGH THE FINAL REVIEW. BUT THE IDEA IS THERE WILL BE SOME UTILITIES WITHIN THAT PRIVATE LANE. AND SO JUST DELINEATING WHO OWNS AND MAINTAINS WHAT IS JUST KIND OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE FINAL. GOT IT. THANK YOU. IT DOESN'T LIKE YOU, DUNCAN. IT TAKES A WHILE FOR IT TO WARM UP. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF USING PRIVATE ROADS INSTEAD OF PUBLIC ROADS IS IN A PUBLIC ROAD. WE DON'T NEED EASEMENTS AT ALL, RIGHT? IF IT'S DEDICATED COMPLETELY TO THE CITY FOR FOR NOT JUST TRANSPORTATION, BUT ALL PURPOSES, UTILITIES AND SO FORTH. BUT THE PRIVATE ROAD THAT WE, WE HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO USE. AND THEN ONCE WE WANT TO, WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO USE WITH THE EASEMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS WELL BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY REQUIREMENTS. IF WE HAVE A WATER LINE OR SEWER LINE, THEN CERTAIN OTHER TYPES OF OF LINES OR USES CAN'T BE WITHIN SO MANY FEET, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO BE BASICALLY EXTRA CAREFUL WITH PRIVATE ROADS ON ENSURING WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE ONGOING SERVICES. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IT WORKS FINE. OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND. THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. GOING ONCE, TWICE. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR MOTIONS. COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. I AGREE, HAVING GONE THROUGH ALL THAT, STAFF IDENTIFIED, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A GOOD FIT. SO BASED ON THE FINDINGS, I'M SORRY, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THE FINDINGS SET FORTH IN STAFF REPORT, UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATION RECEIVED TODAY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR THE SUGAR FACTORY AND THE CREEK TOWNHOMES, LOCATED AT 1790 WEST SUGAR FACTORY ROAD, IN A ZONE WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ECKERT? SORRY, I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES FIVE. NOTHING. OKAY. AND THEN BASED ON THE INFORMATION FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE EVIDENCE AND EXPLANATIONS RECEIVED TODAY, I'M WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR THE SUGAR FACTORY ON THE CREEK TOWNHOMES LOCATED AT 1790 WEST SUGAR FACTORY ROAD, IN A ZONE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, COMMISSIONER ECKERT. I'LL SECOND THAT AS WELL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT CARRIES FIVE. [a. Barber Estates; 7401 South 5490 West: Rezone RR-1D (Rural Residential 1 Acre Lots) to R-1-12 (Residential Single-Family 12,000 Square Foot Minimum Lot Size) Zone; Anderson Development (Applicant)[Tayler Jensen/Nate Nelson/Angelica Haro #34633 Parcel #20-25-325-015-0000]] NOTHING. OKAY. NEXT IS OUR ITEM FIVE PUBLIC HEARING WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. AND THIS IS LETTER A BARBARA ESTATES 7401 SOUTH 5490 WEST A REZONE RR DASH ONE D RURAL RESIDENTIAL ONE ACRE LOTS TO AN R-1-12 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY 12,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE. AND IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT OR ARE THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. GOOD EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS ADAM ANDERSON. I REPRESENT ANDERSON DEVELOPMENT AS THE APPLICANT FOR BARBARA ESTATES. TONIGHT WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR REZONE TO R 112. WE BELIEVE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN HAD INTENDED IN THE AREA. WE ALSO THINK IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH, WHICH KIND OF SET THE PRECEDENCE TO, SAY, R 112 IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AS A MINIMUM AS FAR AS DENSITY IN THIS AREA. SO WE FEEL THAT'S COMPLIANT THERE. WE DID SUBMIT A CONCEPT WITH 19 LOTS. WE DON'T WANT TO SUGGEST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE JUST SUGGESTING THAT R 112 COULD WORK. HERE'S OUR CONCEPT TO SHOW THAT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ENGINEERING, ROAD [00:15:05] ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS, ETC. SO THE FINAL SITE PLAN WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM THAT. IN FACT, I WOULD SUGGEST IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT WOULD BE R 112 COMPLIANT. FOR PERSPECTIVE. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I WAS KIND OF INTERESTED IN THIS 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT MIGHT SEEM MAYBE IT'S SMALLER FOR THE AREA, BUT NATIONALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW MANY LOTS WERE APPROVED NATIONALLY, WHAT WE'RE THE PREPONDERANCE OF THOSE. AND IT WAS REALLY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM WERE UNDER 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. SO WE'RE CONSIDERABLY ABOVE THAT FOR NATIONAL AVERAGES. AND AND SO WE THINK THAT GIVES THE RESIDENTS A GOOD ESTATE FEEL WITH THAT SIZE. WE GET GOOD HOMES WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT FUTURE ESTATE LOT REDEVELOPMENTS. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE VALLEY IN FIVE ACRE LOTS AND ONE ACRE LOTS, HOW THEY'RE BEING REDEVELOPED THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY AS OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THE STRUCTURE ON THE LAND BECOMES WORTH LESS THAN THE LAND. SOMETIMES REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S DEMAND, CAN SEE THOSE GET REDEVELOPED. SO WE THINK THE THIRD ACRE, THE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS HAVE A GOOD FIT THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NICE VALUE ON THAT STRUCTURE SITTING ON THAT LOT. SO THE FACT THAT IT BE REDEVELOPED ANYTIME IN THE FUTURE, I THINK THE CITY COULD BE HAVE COMFORT KNOWING THOSE HOMES WOULD BE THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME TO COME. SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK IS JUST THE REZONE. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO WITH THE ENGINEERING, ETC. WE'VE TALKED A LOT WITH CITY COUNCIL, THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE AREA, TRYING TO WORK ON SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO BEFORE THE SITE PLAN COMES BACK TO YOU. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT A REZONE AND SAYING, DOES THE R 112 FIT FOR THIS PROPERTY AND IS IT IN KEEPING WITH THE GENERAL PLAN? AND SO WE'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. THANK YOU. TAYLOR. THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMISSION. YEAH. JUST FOLLOWING UP ON MR. ANDERSON, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THIS IS VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. R1 12 IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONE WITHIN THE VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE. SO THE PROPOSAL IS COMPLIANT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT MATCHES THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. WE ALSO SEE KIND OF THOSE TWO GREEN PIECES THAT ARE BELOW THE A ONE. THERE'S A CURRENT APPLICATION IN TO HAVE THOSE REZONE TO AN R THREE SIX. AS WE MOVE DOWN TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE KIND OF WHAT IS THAT COMMERCIAL CORE. SO THE DENSITY DOES GO UP AS WE MOVE. AND SO THIS IS A GOOD TRANSITION BUFFER PIECE BETWEEN SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS THAT WE SEE IN THE AREA TOWARDS THE MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING PRESSURES FOR ALONG 5600 WEST, AS MENTIONED BY APPLICANT. THIS IS A CONCEPT WHICH SHOWS THAT 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS WILL BE POSSIBLE HERE WITH THE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE GOING FOR. IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT TONIGHT WE ARE JUST DOING A LAND USE CHANGE. SO WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS CONCEPT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS, WHICH WILL GO THROUGH STAFF AND ACTUALLY HAVE KIND OF THE NEXT STEPS HERE. SO TONIGHT YOU'LL DO A RECOMMENDATION EITHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. REGARDLESS. THIS WILL THEN BE PUBLICLY NOTICED AND THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND A FINAL DECISION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THAT'S PLANNED FOR IN NOVEMBER. AND THEN ASSUMING APPROVAL THERE, WE'LL HAVE A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, WHICH WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BACK BEFORE THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL, AND THEN THE FINAL SUBDIVISION AND FINAL BUILDING PERMITS WILL BE STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. SO THERE'S AT LEAST TWO MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH ALL THE THE SITE SPECIFIC ISSUES WITH THAT PLAT WHEN THAT COMES THROUGH IN THE FUTURE, WE ARE JUST RECOMMENDING ONE CONDITION OR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL FOR, IS JUST WHETHER 5490 NEEDED TO BE FULLY CONSTRUCTED, OR IF A HALF ROAD WOULD BE ALLOWED. AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION, THE COUNCIL HAS LET US KNOW THAT WE NEED 5490 WEST TO BE COMPLETED FROM HIGHLANDS LOOP LANE TO THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF BARBER ESTATES PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD NOW. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ALLEN JUST FOR BENEFIT. BUT COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP AND JUST SHOW US WHERE THAT CONDITION PLACE? I GUESS IT'S NOT FULLY IN THERE, BUT FROM THE THE ENTRANCE ON TO 5490 TO THE SOUTH. YEAH. SO SORRY. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT BROWN COLOR PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED LIKE TUPELO, THAT'S [00:20:04] WHERE THE ROAD CURRENTLY ENDS. 5490 SO WE HAVE A DEFERRAL AGREEMENTS FOR THOSE TWO YELLOW SUBDIVISIONS ABOVE THAT. AND SO 5490 YEP. RIGHT THERE WE ARE DRAWING. IT'LL NEED TO BE IMPROVED THROUGH THAT. AND WHETHER THAT'S ALL ANDERSON DEVELOPMENT OR IF IT'S A PARTNER WITH PETERSON, IF THEY REZONE GOES THROUGH, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MAKING THAT ROAD HAPPEN. AND DOES THE CITY HAVE SUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE PROPERTIES ON THE WEST TO MAKE THAT A FULL SIZE? THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACQUIRING THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S NECESSARY TO BUILD THE ROAD. GOT IT. OKAY, THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THIS HAS BEEN NOTED AS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. COME UP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME. IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISE YOUR HAND. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE REZONE. THIS IS RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE REZONE ON THIS PROPERTY. THIS BACKS RIGHT DIRECTLY TO MY PROPERTY. I LIVE TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY. CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, PLEASE? PARDON ME, MELISSA WOOD. THANK YOU. YES. SO I LIVE JUST TO THE NORTH AND ALL OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND THIS PROPERTY ALL HAVE ANIMAL RIGHTS AND THE PROPERTIES HERE. I LIVE ON A HALF AN ACRE, WHICH IS OUR WHOLE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST, OUR ACRE LOTS, AND THEN TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH ARE ALSO FIVE ACRES AND TEN ACRE LOTS. HE IS CORRECT. TO THE SOUTH THEY HAVE ALLOWED FOR QUARTER ACRE LOTS TO GO IN. BUT THOSE REFLECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT IS TO THE SOUTH OF US. SO I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND. WHY A REZONE WOULD BE NECESSARY HERE WITH THE ANIMAL RIGHTS. WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED TWO OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THE SAME CONDITION THAT WE ALL HAVE ANIMAL RIGHTS AND THE TRANSITION FROM OUR HALF ACRES AND OUR ACRES DOWN TO THESE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, WHICH I BELIEVE BE ADDRESSED AS A THIRD ACRE. BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE CLOSER TO A QUARTER ACRE. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT TRANSITION WOULD WORK, AND WHY WE WOULD PUT QUARTER ACRE LOTS AGAINST ALL OF THESE LARGE FARMLAND. ACRES WITH ANIMAL RIGHTS. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO THEN TOWER OVER INTO OUR HOMES. BUT REALLY, THE AREA IS ZONED RIGHT NOW FOR THESE LARGER LOTS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE LARGER LOTS STAY. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS TALKING TO THIS DEVELOPER, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INVITED TO THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS NOR INVOLVED WITH THE PLANNING THAT'S GOING ON THERE. SO AS A HOMEOWNER THAT SITS RIGHT UP TO THE BACK OF THIS, I WOULD BE AN OBJECTION AND IN OBJECTION TO REZONING THIS PROPERTY AT THIS TIME, UNLESS THEY CAN DO SOME TYPE OF TRANSITIONAL PROPERTY THAT WORKS OUT TO THEIR UNDERSTAND THERE IS NOT A ROAD THAT EXITS OUT OF THERE TO. SO BRINGING IN A LOT MORE TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH TO GET OUT TO 70 SOUTH, GET OUT TO 78 SOUTH, AND THERE'S NO EXIT THAT GOES TOWARDS 56 WEST. SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST, IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT ALLOW A REZONE HERE, AND REALLY CONSIDER THE OTHER LOTS THAT ARE AROUND THIS PROPERTY. AND WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FARMLAND ON THE OTHER SIDE TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS BEN SOUTHWORTH, RESIDENT OF WEST JORDAN TO J. AND THE REST OF YOU, THANKS FOR FOR LETTING US SPEAK TODAY. AND TO STAFF SCOTT AND LARRY AND EVERYBODY ELSE. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME. I WANTED TO COMMENT AND JUST EXPRESS THAT. NOT THAT THERE'S A REASON I'M NOT AGAINST A REZONE. AND R 12 IS A GREAT A GREAT ZONE TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL HOMES. THERE'S SOME THAT MATCH THAT. BUT THE POINT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE IS THAT TO SAY THAT THAT'S TRANSITIONAL I DON'T THINK WORKS. AND SO WHAT I WANT TO GIVE YOU UNDERSTANDING YOUR ROLE HERE FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE FINDINGS OF FACT. I WANT TO TAKE ISSUE WITH THE FIRST ONE SAID THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSES, GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AS VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS HAS BEEN INDICATED, AND THERE IS A COMMENT IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT [00:25:03] THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT AND R 112. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY HISTORY WITH THIS GOES BACK MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN WHAT IS CONSIDERED CONSISTENT WITH VERY LOW DENSITY. AND SO I TAKE THAT AS SURPRISING, MAYBE TECHNICALLY THAT IS TRUE, BUT I WOULD TAKE I WOULDN'T AGREE THAT THAT IS VERY LOW DENSITY AS THIS AREA WAS ALWAYS INTENDED. AND I SAY THAT FROM WORKING ON GENERAL PLANS VERY, VERY CLOSELY IN YEARS PAST, BUT. THE IT CONTINUES AND GOES ON AND SAYS THAT IN THAT FIRST FINDING OF FACT, IT IT DESIGNATES LAND USE AND SAYS, QUOTE, LAND USE DECISIONS. DECISIONS SHOULD BE GUIDED BY THE GENERAL PLAN TO PROTECT EXISTING LAND USES AND MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, PROTECT EXISTING AND MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE KNOW AS A GENERAL POLICY AS WE TRANSITION, AS PEOPLE SAID THAT A LOT HERE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VERY GOOD TRANSITION AT ALL TO GO. IF YOU ARE, I THINK YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR FRICTION TROUBLE, IF YOU WILL, TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO PUT AGAINST RURAL RESIDENTIAL HALF ACRES AND ONE ACRE LOTS, AND I'M GOING TO PUT. EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE R1 12 THIRD ACRE. THOSE ARE PRETTY DECENT SIZE. BUT THOSE THOSE LAND USES CAN'T BE INCOMPATIBLE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT'S IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE WILL HEAR FROM. WE HAVE HORSES AND COWS AND SHEEP AND WE HAVE GOATS AND WE HAVE CHICKENS, AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING, PIGS, THINGS THAT COME WITH RURAL, RESIDENTIAL. AND SO TO PUT THOSE NEIGHBORS AGAINST EACH OTHER IN BACKYARDS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WE'RE ASKING FOR TROUBLE IS WHAT I'M COMING AT. AND SO THE FINDING OF FACT, I DON'T BELIEVE IS CONSISTENT WITH NUMBER ONE, IT GOES ON AND SAYS HOUSING ENCOURAGE A BALANCED VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL LIFE STAGES, WITH A MIX OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR TODAY AND INTO THE FUTURE. AND IT SAYS THAT THESE LOTS ARE SMALL DEVELOPMENT. I GUESS I'M OUT OF TIME. BUT BUT THE REFERENCE THAT THERE'S 8000FT■!, WELL, IS BECAUSE THERE'S 8000FT■!S EVERYWHERE. ELSEWHERE DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T USE GOOD GRAMMAR. IF THERE'S IF THERE'S LOCATION, THERE'S OTHER THE OTHER ONE THAT THAT ANOTHER FINDING OF FACT THAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH. I'M NOT GET OUT OF HERE TODAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET. THANK YOU. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS STEVE SHEALY AND I LIVE IN JACOB HILL CIRCLE. I KNOW WHAT YOU SAID. YOU KNOW, WE BUILT OUT THERE 25 YEARS AGO. IT WAS ZONED FOR LOW DENSITY. THAT'S WHAT WE. THAT'S WHY WE PURCHASED. WE PAID A HEFTY PRICE FOR THAT PROPERTY. ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS, WHO ALSO HAVE HORSES AND COWS. WE DON'T. BUT I GROW WEARY OF OF DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO COME IN AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, MY TELEPHONE RINGS A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK. SOMEBODY WANTS TO PURCHASE MY PROPERTY. ISN'T THAT AMAZING? SOME OF MY CONCERNS ARE, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS COUNCIL ALLOWED 55 HOMES TO BE BUILT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STREET, OF WHERE YOU PROPOSED TO PUT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, 55 HOMES RENTALS. OH, BY THE WAY, YOU GOT SNOOKERED BY THE DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO PUT A 55 AND 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY IN THERE THAT WENT TANGO UNIFORM. AND NOW YOU'VE STUCK WITH THAT ZONING. AND THE OTHER PARTICULAR THING I FIND ABOUT MR. BARBER, HE WANTS TO DEVELOP THAT, BUT YET HE WANTS TO HANG ON TO HIS HALF OR HIS FULL ACRE OUT THERE. HE DOESN'T EVEN LIVE HERE, AS I UNDERSTAND. HE LIVES IN LAS VEGAS. ALONG WITH THAT, THE CONGESTION FOR FOR TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE ALREADY WITH JUST THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED IN UP THERE ON THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT USED TO BE A GHOST TOWN, AND NOW YOU HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF 7800 SOUTH. YOU HAVE A ROUNDABOUT, BUT THAT'S A LONG WAY AROUND THE BARN TO GET IN THERE AND PLUS YOUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE. I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN JUST SAID ABOUT WHAT THAT PROPERTY WAS INTENDED FOR. THAT'S WHY WE ALL PURCHASED THERE. AND I JUST GOT A COPY. I JUST GOT TO LOOK AT THAT PLAT TODAY, JUST A MOMENT AGO. WHERE'S THE BUFFER BETWEEN US? YOU. I CAN'T GET THE CITY TO COME OUT AND REMOVE CONEX 2020 FOOT CONNECTORS THAT ARE BACKED UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY ON ON HALF ACRE PROPERTIES. TOTAL VIOLATION OF THE CODE. THE CITY, THE CITY ENFORCEMENT. SO ALL YOU'RE DOING BY RUNNING THOSE HOUSES ALONG THAT PERIMETER FOR US WHO HAVE A PROPERTY RIGHTS, JUST LIKE I SAID, CONFLICT OF NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE FIRST THING IS GOING TO COME OUT OF IT. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, YOUR HORSE, YOUR HORSE POOP STINKS AND THERE'S TOO MANY FLIES. SO [00:30:03] I WOULD, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU CAN RECONSIDER OR TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU WANT TO REZONE THAT WE, WE PURCHASED THERE, WE PAID A HEFTY PRICE FOR THOSE ACRE PROPERTIES OUT THERE. AND WE DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS LOW DENSITY, NOT WITH THE INTENTION OF THAT. IF YOU WANT TO GO BIGGER, LOTS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. AND WE ALL I THINK WE'D ALL BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE INTENTION THAT WE BUILT. THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S THE LEGACY WE BOUGHT. MY PROPERTY IS A LEGACY TO MY FAMILY. WHEN I PASS ON, AND I EXPECT THAT PROPERTY TO BE THERE AS HORSE PROPERTY AS WELL WHEN I'M WHEN I CHECK OUT OF THIS EARTH. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS HADLEY WARNICK. I'M A SOPHOMORE AT COPPER HILLS HIGH SCHOOL, AND WITH THE SUPPORT, MY HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING. AND I JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS TODAY. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE COWS AND HORSES AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY FARM ANIMAL THAT YOU COULD THINK OF. AND MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WANT TO LIVE RIGHT THERE. I KNOW PERSONALLY, I RODEO FULL TIME AND MY HORSE IS NOT. THEY ARE NOT VERY CLEANLINESS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE. YOU'RE TRYING TO THROW HOUSES IN BETWEEN A FARM AND MORE AGRICULTURE. PERSONALLY, I THINK WE LIVE IN WEST JORDAN AND THIS IS THE LAST FARM RESERVE IN WEST JORDAN. I LIVE ON THE LAST OFF GRID AREA, AND YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO COME IN AND PUT HOUSES IN THERE, AND IT REALLY IS JUST GOING TO KNOCK DOWN OUR AGRICULTURE IN THE LONG RUN. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE FARM ANIMALS AND THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO LIVE THERE, WANT TO LIVE THERE. IT'S IN A KIND OF A WEIRD SPOT WHERE YOU ARE IN BETWEEN A MEAT FARM AND HORSES, AND THAT IS A HARD SPOT FOR CLEANLINESS, FOR EVEN LIKE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE HARD BACK THERE. IT'S A WEIRD AREA. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME LISTENING TO ME. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS CODY BROWN. I LIVE ON THE PRIVATE ROAD ON THE OTHER END. I JUST WANT TO ADD MY MY VOTE FOR NOT DOING SUCH SMALL LOTS. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT SOME OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT I MEAN WHAT MAYBE MAYBE I MISHEARD, BUT THOSE THREE DARK GREEN LOTS. IT'S AN ACTIVE WORKING FARM AND YEAH, IT DOES SMELL SOMETIMES. I MEAN, I LOVE IT. WE MOVED THERE ON THE STREET BECAUSE WE LOVED THE THE LARGE LOTS, THE FARM, THE ANIMALS WE'VE GOT. WE'VE HAD A COW, A COUPLE OF COWS. WE'VE HAD CHICKENS. RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE GOATS AND A DOG AND A CAT. BUT. THE OTHER THING I WOULD JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TOO, IS THAT THE ZONING AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT FOR THEM TO FINISH THE STREET, IT I MEAN, THAT IS PART OF THE PRIVATE ROAD. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN JUSTIFY THAT. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST PUT IN MY VOTE THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SMALL LOTS MIXED IN WITH THE BIG HORSE PROPERTY. THANKS. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS BRITTANY ALLEN. I LIVE IN WEST JORDAN AS WELL. FORGIVE ME. I'M GOING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT MY TWO KIDS ARE NOT CAUSING HAVOC BEHIND ME. SO IF I LOOK BEHIND ME, THAT'S WHY I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY. I LIVE ONE HOUSE OUTSIDE OF THE PERIMETER THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO NOTICE US BY, AND THANKFULLY, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY WHERE ALL THE NEIGHBORS LIKE, LET ME KNOW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING TODAY SO THAT I COULD BE HERE. I WANT TO ECHO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID. I'M A NEW RESIDENT TO THIS COMMUNITY, WHERE WE MOVED IN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND I DID NOT REALIZE ABOUT THE FLIES AND THE CHAOS OF ANIMAL RIGHTS NEARBY. AND I JUST WANT TO, LIKE, GIVE MY VOTE THAT NO ONE IS MAKING THAT UP OR EXAGGERATING HOW INTENSE IT IS. AS SOMEONE WHO DID NOT REALIZE HOW INTENSE IT WOULD BE WHEN WE MOVED IN, I ALSO WANT TO ECHO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. I DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY SINGLE DAY TO GO TO STARBUCKS, AND WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. BUT I CAN SPEAK AGAIN THAT THAT ROAD IS NOT HAND LIKE, I'M SORRY, I ALREADY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HIGH DENSITY POPULATION THAT WE ALLOWED IN THAT PARKING LOT OF THE STARBUCKS AND THE DOLLAR TREE TO CONTINUE THAT POPULATION JUST BEHIND IT OF LOW DENSITY OR HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S EQUIPPED FOR ANY OF THIS. YOU GUYS JUST REDID THE ROADS. YOU JUST SPENT ALL THIS MONEY TO REDO THE ROADS IN THIS AREA. [00:35:04] AND IT'S NOT IT'S EVEN LESS EQUIPPED NOW AT THIS POINT WITH HOW IT WAS RESURFACED AND REPAINTED. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS I, I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY TWO KIDS COULD RUN AROUND IN THE BACKYARD NAKED AND BE KIDS AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE HOUSES LOOKING IN, IN OUR HOUSE, IN OUR YARD. ALL OF LIKE, IF THIS, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'RE NOW WE HAVE A, WE'RE IN A FISH TANK, RIGHT? LIKE EVERYONE IS STARING IN ON US. AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF HIGH DENSITY OPTIONS IN THIS AREA. WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE IT INTO THE VERY LITTLE LOW DENSITY RURAL AREA THAT IS LEFT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. SO I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE. NO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SHANE BOWLER. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR LISTENING. I LIVE AT AND OPERATE THE FARM, WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES AND MOSTLY TONIGHT. I'M JUST FEELING GRATEFUL THAT NOBODY'S MAD AT ME ABOUT THE FLIES AND THE SMELLS BECAUSE. BECAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY ON ME. WE HAVE OPERATED THERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND HOPE TO REMAIN THERE. MY CONCERN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT, I FEEL, IS RELATED BECAUSE, AS TAYLOR MENTIONED, THE ACCESS IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE TO THIS SUBDIVISION. I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPERS TODAY, AND WE HAVE BEGUN TALKING ABOUT HOW TO RESOLVE THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT, THE WAY IT STANDS, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS AROUND APPROVING A REZONE ON A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS NO REQUIRED ACCESS YET. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A PUBLIC MEETING IN OVER 25 YEARS, BUT I WAS ACTIVE AT THAT TIME. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOU STATE YOUR NAME. OH, I AM ISADORA DRURY. I LIVE ON PICO DRIVE. MY LOT DOES TOUCH PART OF MR. BARTON'S PART. ANYWAY, HIS PROPERTY IS ON MY. NORTHEAST CORNER. ANYHOW, I AM CONCERNED. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSITION PLANNING. IS IT GOING TO START GETTING SMALLER? SMALLER? IS IT? THERE IS NO ROADS LEADING INTO THE TRAFFIC IS TERRIBLE ALREADY. IT'S TERRIBLE. JUST BECAUSE I FREQUENT THE CAR WASH OFTEN AND I GO UP TO TO SMITH'S AND I GO TO HOME DEPOT AND I FEAR FOR MY LIFE. PEOPLE ARE IN A BIG MAD RUSH TO GET ONTO THAT MOUNTAIN VIEW CORRIDOR, AND YOU JUST PUT IN AND ALLOWED THAT HIGH DENSITY I THERE BY THE BY, THE CAR WASH. IT'S IT'S JUST LIKE THEY ARE CRUSHED IN THERE, LIKE PACKED IN LIKE TUNA AND A TUNA CAN. IT'S LIKE SO. AND, AND IT JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE AN ODD, AN ODD DEVELOPMENT THERE. AND THEN NOW YOU'RE DECIDING OR THINKING ABOUT OR GOING TO DECIDE ON THIS PROPOSAL FROM THE ANDERSON DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S IT'S WORTH. UPENDING WHAT WAS A REALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE TO LIVE AND BUILD MY HOME THERE ON PICO DRIVE. I FELT SAFE. I HAD GOOD NEIGHBORS, I HAD POLITE NEIGHBORS. AND SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE NOT. I CAN TALK TO THEM AND THEY ARE JUST FINE. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I DO KNOW THE OWNER AND I THINK HE IS A NICE GENTLEMAN, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT, BUT I WANT THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO WHAT IS SURROUNDING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IS PROPOSED FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE IF YOU INCH ON THAT, THEN YOU'RE INCHING DOWN FURTHER NORTH, NORTH ON THOSE FIVE ACRE LOTS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIKE NOT WANT TO STAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE HOSPITABLE FOR THEM, THE TRAFFIC, THE CRIME. YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IN MY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THAT I LIVED IN RESIDED IN THERE WAS A LOT OF YOUR MAILBOXES BEING OPENED AND YOUR MAIL BEING TAKEN. AND RIGHT NOW, THE WAY WE SIT, WE JUST HAVE WE HAVE JUST A SAFER PRESENCE IN OUR IN OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I DIDN'T REALLY CARE FOR THE. ALSO, I DIDN'T CARE FOR THE DESCRIPTION OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BEING 9000. WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT NATIONAL. WE'RE UTAH. WE'RE REALLY SPECIAL HERE IN UTAH. YOU KNOW, I'M AN [00:40:01] IMMIGRANT. CAME HERE AT THE AGE OF TWO AND I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND I LOVE UTAH. WE CAME TO UTAH AND WE NEVER MOVED. AND I, I WOULD CONSIDER. EVERYBODY, BUT I'M AGAINST IT. YOUR TIME IS UP, MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS BEN HOMER. I LIVE IN THE PROPERTY SUBDIVISION DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, AND THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THE LOTS THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS SUBDIVIDED OR ZONED FOR R 12 12,000 LOTS, THE DEVELOPER AT THE TIME AND BOTH OF THOSE CIRCLES DID NOT DO 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. THEY ARE MINIMUM. I JUST LOOKED AT THE PLOT MAP FOR BOTH OF THEM 13,000 OR IN THE CASE OF MINE, CLOSER TO 20,000. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO SPEND MY WIFE AND I TO, TO LET OUR KIDS GROW AND RAISE AND HAVE THIS BE THE HOME WE LIVE IN. LONG TERM. YES. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE FLIES. MY HOUSE WAS A NICE WHITE COLOR WHEN WE MOVED IN. NOW IT'S KIND OF HAS A BROWN SHADE TO IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. WE KNEW THAT MOVING IN, BUT FOR THE APPLICANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS STANDARD, THIS IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE MORE MOST RECENTLY DEVELOPED IN THIS AREA WERE. SO DUE TO THAT, IF THEY WANT, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND ME SAID, WANT TO REEVALUATE IT WITH BIGGER LOTS, LET'S TALK. BUT AS IT CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS TIFFANY OSTRANDER AND I LIVE DIRECTLY EAST. SO THIS WAS GOING TO BACK ME AND I'M RIGHT IN THE CENTER. AND I'M ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO THE FLIES BECAUSE I AM THE ONE WITH THE HORSES AND THE GOATS AND THE TURKEYS. SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN ON THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IF YOU APPROVE THE 1200FT■!S, AD I HAVE BEEN IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE. HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT. IF YOU APPROVE THE 1200FT■!S, WHERE IS THE BUFFER FOR MY ACRE AND A HALF LOT TO THEIR 1200 SQUARE FOOT LOT? I KNOW THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUFFER IN BETWEEN US, BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE PLANS. SO WITH AN OPEN 1200 SQUARE FOOT APPROVAL, I'M JUST AFRAID THAT WILL BE WASHED OUT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A TALLER FENCE REQUIREMENT ALSO NOT IN THE PLANS. SO I GUESS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST AN OVERALL APPROVAL OF THIS. WHAT DOES BUFF MY LOT AND OUR LIFESTYLE FROM THEIR LOTS AND THEIR LIFESTYLE? BECAUSE WE ARE DIRECT NEIGHBORS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MILTON SCOW. I LIVE DIRECTLY EAST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I'M THE NEIGHBOR OF TIFFANY WITH THE HORSES. I LOVE THE HORSES AND THE TURKEYS. WE MOVED INTO THAT PROPERTY ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE CHOSE IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE RURAL FEEL OF IT. THERE WASN'T A LOT OF HOUSES AROUND, THERE WAS HAD NEIGHBORS, BUT THEY WEREN'T THAT CLOSE. AND I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT THE THAT SMALL OF A FOOTPRINT FOR THE HOUSES IS CONDUCIVE TO THE ONE ACRE LOTS, WHICH PRETTY MUCH SURROUND THAT PROPERTY. I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, IT WAS, I GUESS WAS TRYING TO ZONED AT 9000, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT'S GONE TO 12,000, BUT I STILL DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT WELL FOR THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HERE LIKE TO SPEAK? I GUESS? TO ALL THIS. ARE YOU STILL A DEVELOPER. THEN WE'LL WE'LL CALL YOU UP LATER THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU CHAIR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND [00:45:04] BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENT AND OR MOTIONS. FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE YOUTH FOR COMING UP AND SPEAKING. THAT IS ADMIRABLE. I DON'T SEE ENOUGH OF THAT. AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE BECAUSE WE DO ACTUALLY VALUE EVEN THE YOUTHS OPINIONS AND STUFF. SO AND I DO KNOW THAT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK. SO I DO REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE THAT. SECOND OFF, THIS IS A REZONE HEARING. SO AND ALL WE CAN DO IS RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL EITHER YES OR NO ON THE REZONE LATER ON WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER HEARING FOR THAT HERE. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S ALL THAT IS FOR. SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, OH, I DO WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING. THE THREE ACRES OR THREE LOTS PER ACRE IS CONSIDERED A LOW DENSITY HOUSING THAT'S 12,000FT UNDER THE WEST JORDAN CODE. THAT IS LOW, LOW DENSITY, SO VERY LOW. ALL RIGHT. EXCUSE ME. VERY LOW. MOST OF THE STUFF WE ACTUALLY GET HERE IS ACTUALLY A ONE EIGHT OR EVEN ONE SIX. AND THAT IS CONSIDERED LOW DENSITY, NOT EVEN VERY LOW. SO THREE THREE LOTS PER ACRE IS PRETTY GOOD. AND JUST MY OWN LITTLE PERSONAL THING I DO BUTT UP AGAINST FARMLAND. AND SO I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEY HAVE HORSES, WE HAVE CHICKENS AND YES, WE HAVE FLIES. AND EVEN IN OUR PRE MEETING, I WAS ASKING IF ANYBODY HERE KNOWS HOW TO GET RID OF FLIES. I'M ALL EARS. I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT. BUT ME PERSONALLY, IF THAT'S ALL THAT IS OCCURRING IS FLIES, THEN THAT'S OKAY. NOW I DO HAVE ONE ISSUE AND THAT WOULD BE WITH THE ROAD BEING. AND I KNOW IT SAYS IT'S SUBJECT TO THE C OF O. MAYBE YOU CAN SPELL UPON IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YEAH. SO THE ROAD 5490. IT IS CURRENTLY A PRIVATE ROAD FOR MOST OF IT PAST HIGHLAND ROAD, BUT IT IS ON THE CITY'S MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS A COLLECTOR ROAD, A MINOR COLLECTOR. IT'S BEEN ON THAT FOR SOME TIME SINCE AT LEAST 2010, SO IT'S LONG BEEN PLANNED FOR THIS TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD. EVENTUALLY IT WILL BE A PUBLIC ROAD, AND THAT WILL BE DEDICATED AND BUILT AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS ALONG THE ROAD. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, DOWN FARTHER SOUTH. THAT'S WHY THERE'S MONEY SET ASIDE FROM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS TO WIDEN THAT. AND THAT'S WHY THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS IS TO WIDEN THAT ROAD AND CONSTRUCT IT TO THE NORTH END OF THIS PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNITY BROUGHT UP CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC ACCESS. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED. THAT'S WHY THE ROAD NEEDS TO GO IN. IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAJOR DRIVING FACTORS OF THAT IS INCREASING EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES TO THIS AREA. SO THAT ROAD IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY AND IT'S THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WITH DEVELOPMENT IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT ROAD TO BE BUILT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OR MOTIONS OR CHAIR. THERE WERE SOME OTHER ISSUES ADDRESSED OR MENTIONED BY THE PUBLIC, AND I WONDER IF THE DEVELOPER COULD BE CALLED UP NOW TO MAYBE RESPOND TO SOME OF THOSE OR OR OTHERWISE, IF STAFF COULD RESPOND TO THEM. I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO WHAT I HEARD, AND WE NEED THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP. YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND TO WHAT YOU HEARD AND THEN IF WE MISS SOMETHING, I JOTTED DOWN A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I THOUGHT I HAD KIND OF TOUCHED UPON THOSE A LITTLE BIT, BUT SO WE HAD THE ROAD ISSUE, WHICH I JUST DISCUSSED. SECOND ISSUE WAS, YOU KNOW, DENSITY BY OUR GENERAL PLAN, 0 TO 3 UNITS PER ACRE IS VERY LOW DENSITY. WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT WHAT WE THINK VERY LOW DENSITY IS, BUT THE DEFINITION THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED, THE GENERAL PLAN IS UP TO THREE UNITS IN R-1. 12 IS ONE OF THE SPECIFIC ZONES CALLED OUT AS BEING APPROPRIATE. SO THAT'S WHY THE FINDING OF FACT IS THAT'S APPROPRIATE. THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF TALK ABOUT TRANSITION. THERE'S NOT ANY SET TRANSITION BUFFER BETWEEN OUR R ONE AND R ONE. AND R 112 WOULD BE CONSIDERED A TRANSITION ZONE FROM RR1 TO SOMETHING MORE DENSE. BUT THERE'S NOT ANY REQUIRED BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE. WE CAN SEE THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER. WE SEE PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW OF R 112 BUFFERING RR1. WE SEE SOME R 110 THAT BUFFER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK BY ALL INTENTS AND EXPERIENCES, THIS IS A VERY GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. EVEN WHERE THOSE R 110 BUTTED UP AGAINST RR ONES CURRENTLY. IT'S A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE [00:50:03] BEING ANY NONCONFORMITIES HAPPENING BECAUSE NEXT TO A ONE ACRE LOT, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THEY DO HAVE ANIMALS, THEY HAVE ANIMAL RIGHTS. THE EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH THAT, THOSE RIGHTS DON'T GO AWAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THEM DEVELOPS. I THINK AT COUNCIL THEY TALKED ABOUT THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THEIR SELL AGREEMENT. IF THIS GOT APPROVED, THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE'S AGRICULTURAL BUSINESSES AND PROPERTIES NEXT TO THEM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON THE BUYER DISCLOSURE. AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. AND I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT AS WELL. BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR SMALLER QUARTER TO HALF ACRE LOTS TO BE NEXT TO LARGER LOTS AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE NUISANCE ISSUES. AND I THINK THAT ANYBODY MOVING IN HERE, IT'S BUYER BEWARE. YOU'LL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MOVING IN NEXT TO IF YOU MOVE IN NEXT TO A MEAT FARM AND YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT THERE'S SMELLS AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE PROPERTY FOR YOU. I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT CAME UP. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING I MISSED, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT. IF I COULD ALSO ADD ONE ONE THING, CHAIR. MR. BOWLER, WHO OWNS THE UTAH NATURAL MEATS, APPROPRIATELY COMMENTED ON THE THE NEGOTIATION. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A PRIVATE NEGOTIATION. WHAT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE COUNCIL, AND WE'LL BRING THIS UP AT THE CITY COUNCIL. IS THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT THE IS PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT THAT MR. MURRAY WILL DRAFT, THERE WILL BE A REVERSIONARY CLAUSE, MEANING IF THE DEVELOPER CANNOT, YOU KNOW, GET THE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND AND CONSTRUCT A ROAD AS REQUIRED BY OUR CODE AND ALSO THE CONDITION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAME THREE YEARS. IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHIN THREE YEARS, THE REZONE, THE ZONING WILL REVERT BACK TO WHAT IT IS TODAY. SO JUST BECAUSE IT COULD BE REZONED AND THE COUNCIL MAY REZONE IT, IF THAT CONDITION OF THE THE ACCESS IS NOT RESOLVED WITHIN THREE YEARS, THE ZONING WILL REVERT BACK. AND MAYBE THERE. TAYLOR, YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME IF THAT IS PART OF THE RECEIVING THE C OF O TO HAVE THAT ROAD GO THROUGH. BUT YET THEY'RE GOING TO START BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT WITH SUBDIVISIONS. WE CAN APPROVE A SUBDIVISION WITHOUT ACCESS. IT'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT ACCESS ALREADY ACQUIRED. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE ROAD ACTUALLY BUILT. SO THERE'S TWO PHASES. SO BEFORE APPROVAL THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE ROAD ACQUIRED. AND BEFORE ANYONE CAN MOVE IN AND THE ROAD WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT. OKAY. THAT ANSWERED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY STICKING POINTS AS FAR AS THE ROAD, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO START BUILDING A SUBDIVISION IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROAD THERE. AND SO THAT THAT WAS ONE OF MY, MY BIG CONCERNS. SO, OKAY, CAN I MAKE. TESTIMONY BEFORE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT? YES. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER HEARING BEFORE THE COUNCIL. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK AT THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC. BUT. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY MORE COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I THINK JUST ECHO WHAT YOU MENTIONED. AND THAT IS THIS IS IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT. I MOVED OUT AND I'M VERY CLOSE TO THIS AREA AS WELL. AND WHEN I MOVED OUT THERE, MOST OF THIS WELL, NOT MOST OF THIS, THE AGRICULTURE WAS THERE, BUT FURTHER WEST ALONG 5600 WEST. CERTAINLY WASN'T FELT LIKE I WAS MUCH FURTHER REMOVED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE THE BUSYNESS THAT IS OUT THERE CURRENTLY. THAT SAID, WE HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY IN A MANNER THAT CITY CODE ALLOWS AND SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. I THINK IF WE DO NOT PERMIT THAT AS WELL AS AWFULLY RISKY, LEGALLY AND OTHERWISE. THERE WAS ONE COMMENT MADE ABOUT THE THE BUFFER, AND I THINK TAYLOR IDENTIFIED THAT AS WELL. BUT JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THE BUFFER IS THE THE LOWER RESIDENTIAL. LOT SIZE. SO THE IDEA IS YOU MOVE FROM A BIG LOT SIZE DOWN TO A SMALL LOT SIZE GRADUALLY, AS OPPOSED TO STRAIGHT FROM ONE ACRE LOTS TO HIGH RISE HOUSING. AND ALONG WITH THAT, WHAT YOU'D BE LOOKING AT IS WHATEVER THE SETBACK IS IN R-1 12, WHICH IS WHAT, 20FT FROM THE BACK OF THE [00:55:02] HOME, 25FT, 25FT. SO FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU COULD HAVE HOMES 25FT AWAY, RIGHT. AND THE MAX HEIGHT ON THOSE HOMES IS 35FT TO THE TALLEST POINT. RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US REALLY LIKE. YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF INFILLS. MAYBE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE ONE THING THAT THE DEVELOPER SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING, AND THAT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO SIZE THIS SUCH THAT IT STILL FITS THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S SMALL ENOUGH THAT IT CAN'T BE SUBDIVIDED AGAIN LATER BECAUSE THAT ENDS UP CREATING A LOT MORE CONGESTION. AND IT'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO PLAN AROUND NOW. SO, AND GIVEN THAT I, I, I THINK WE'VE DONE WHAT WE POSSIBLY CAN AS A CITY AND WITHIN OUR REGULATIONS. SO THAT'S MY $0.02. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER HACKER I DO WANT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE THAT IF THEY CAN'T GET THE ROAD, THEN IT GOES BACK TO THE CURRENT ZONING THAT IT CURRENTLY IS AT SO IT DOESN'T STAY OUT THERE. I DO LIKE THAT THEY'VE GOT THREE YEARS. SO THEY HAVE THREE YEARS. YEAH. BUT THAT'S STILL A BENEFIT. AND ALL THE OTHER DETAILS AS FAR AS FENCING WOULD ALL BE PART OF THE NEXT DAY. THIS IS JUST FOR THE REZONING. THIS IS STRICTLY FOR REZONING. EVEN WHAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT IS ONLY FOR A REASON. AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK LATER FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT APPROVAL AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO. COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH, OKAY, SO ALONG WITH THAT, LATER ON, THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC STUDIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ROAD, CORRECT? CORRECT. IF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DETERMINES A NECESSARY. YEAH. SO AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE STUDIED OUT AS THE ROAD IS PURCHASED AND APPROVED. IT WILL. I MEAN, I DON'T ANTICIPATE 19 LOTS ON A NEW COLLECTOR ROAD WILL HAVE ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL IDENTIFY. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOES LOOK AT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND AS FAR AS THE FLIES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT IS BUYER BEWARE. SO HAVING LIVED ON A FARM AND GROWN UP ON A FARM AND LIVING IN A CITY AND NEXT TO A FARM, YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU JUST EXPECT NOISES. YOU EXPECT FLIES, YOU EXPECT SMELLS, AND YOU JUST LIVE WITH THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF WHEN YOU MOVE IN THAT IF YOU HAVE A FARM, YOU GOT TO EXPECT THAT THING. AND IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S ON YOU. SO AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY, I THINK THE DENSITY IS PERFECT FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF A SITUATION. IT DOES CREATE A BUFFER. SO I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER. OKAY, OKAY. THE FOLLOWING IS AN APPROPRIATE MOTION FOR THE COMMISSION TO MAKE. OKAY. IF POSITIVE. OKAY I MOVE SORRY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BARBER ESTATES REZONE OF APPROXIMATELY 8.3 ACRES FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL ONE ACRE LOTS RR DASH ONE D TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, 12 12,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE R-1-12 TO THE WEST JORDAN CITY COUNCIL, SUBJECT TO ALL REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL. OKAY, BEFORE WE GET A SECOND, I WANT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION OF DUNCAN. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE OR IF WE WANTED TO? I KNOW YOU SAID THREE YEARS FOR THAT ROAD TO BE PURCHASED. COULD WE MAKE JUST A NOTATION ALONG WITH THAT MOTION AS FAR AS PART OF THAT, OR WOULD THAT BE NOT APPROPRIATE? YOU COULD I, I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ADDING THAT IN EVERY ZONE CHANGE ORDINANCE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL ORDINANCES, THE THREE YEAR REVERSION CLAUSE. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION, THAT'S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE, I, I WOULD LIKE THAT IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I WILL SECOND THAT, NOTING THAT THAT MY CONCERN WAS THE CHICKEN AND [01:00:04] EGG. YOU KNOW, DO YOU DO THE ROAD OR THE THE DEVELOPMENT FIRST, DEVELOPERS WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO THE ROAD UNLESS THEY'RE GUARANTEED AND VICE VERSA. SO I THINK THAT IS A GREAT ARRANGEMENT. AND GIVING THE TIME TABLE ON THAT, NOTING THAT THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF APPROVAL, IS THAT THEY HAVE TO GET THAT ROAD. NOW, KNOWING THAT IT'S ALSO THAT THREE YEAR PER CITY CODE. SECOND, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THE CAVEAT ON THE ROAD. ALL IN FAVOR, I ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, THAT CARRIES FIVE NOTHING. AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS DOES GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY WOULD MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS FAR AS THE REZONE. SO YOU'LL HAVE ONE MORE SHOT AT SPEAKING YOUR MIND BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THANK YOU, EVERYBODY WHO HAS PARTICIPATED TONIGHT. COMMISSIONER ALLEN, MOTION TO ADJOURN. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.